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R'adeh Hunt The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 75	Posted - 2013.05.30 20:27:00 - [31] - Quote DRE PrEaCh wrote: I'm starting to notice that everyone who is with CCP on the NEGATIVE ISK problem are pretty much cry babies with no skill, who can't compete with the guys running proto gear. You don't know how to outsmart them, outplay them, and you're happy that you don't have to see these skilled players with protogear on pub matches. I guess CCP doesn't care about the skilled players who put time and money into this game, cuz that's what it takes to get a good toon and build yourself up (skill wise) in the game. To all you skill-less, brainless, cry baby punks out there who agree with the NEGATIVE ISK move, just know that we're still going to stomp you in pub matches using militia gear. :) To CCP from the guys who put time and money into this game, just know we're not going to spend another dime buying AUR in the near future :) Tell me...how exactly is you going on a mindless spending spree in any shape or form connected to player skill? And where's the connection between player skill and players speaking out against random guys just getting to keep millions worth of gear for free because they tried to exploit the system DESPITE MULTIPLE WARNINGS AND IN GAME POP-UPs?
Pakratpatti TG TeamPlayers EoN. 14	Posted - 2013.05.30 20:38:00 - [32] - Quote I don't believe in resetting - balances to 0 for those dumb enough to spend all that extra isk/sp that they clearly knew wasn't there's. But what i do think: 1. Those that spent it as Donations to corps should - Request to get that isk returned (any good corp would do it since they can see what members donated what amounts). 2. CCP should offer anyone with a - isk or -sp balance a FULL respect , so that the extra spent on equipment/skills would be reimbursed & let them start completely over & not have a - balance or not such a high - balance. 3. If there corp refuse to reimburse them what they donated then thats there own problem for being Greedy. 4. If you Quit the Game..Well..SEE YA!
nakaya indigene Defensores Doctrina 61	Posted - 2013.05.30 21:27:00 - [33] - Quote The players should NEVER pay for the mistakes of the game developer. CCP needs to own this problem and open the secondary market.
Bob Amarrley KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 15	Posted - 2013.05.31 01:01:00 - [34] - Quote Seriously, if this issue has really upset you, you need to quit, for your own good, because this kind of thing happens quite a lot in MMOGs. Actually, you might want to consider killing yourself, too, because it happens even more often in life. edit: ...and if your corp actually let you donate isk they knew full well was going to be taken back from your account, then your leaders are weasels, and you need a new corp.
Malkai Inos The Vanguardians Orion Empire 204	Posted - 2013.05.31 01:11:00 - [35] - Quote 11Up3Down wrote: Fact is, CCP screwed up. IT doesn't matter what players did or did not spend afterwards. The screw up shouldn't have happened in the first place. This wasn't the first respect/isk refund that we've had. So what made this one so different? Why the screw up to begin with? Then they screwed the fix up taking more ISK away from players that what was given to players in the original screw up. They should have just left it alone. There was no reason to even take the ISK back. It's not like we have a real market or anything to screw up. So what if someone can buy 200 fittings? Doesn't really matter, no market is no market. The ISK isn't trading hands so no harm no foul. CCP screwed this up, not the players. BTW, no I'm not affected by the screw up. I had more ISK than I should have and I have about the same amount of ISK I was suppose to have to begin with. Fact is, that lady screwed up. It doesn't matter what i did or didn't afterwards. She shouldn't have let the door open in the first place... That happens when you compare internet morals to the real world.
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS 1535	Posted - 2013.05.31 01:16:00 - [36] - Quote Noc Tempre wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Next time don't waste money you weren't suppose to have to begin with 90% of the players, don't trawl the forum. There was no announcement, there was no in-game mail, heck there's not even a sticky about it. How were they supposed to know they weren't supposed to receive it? By actually paying attention, that's a lot to ask of people, I know
Malkai Inos The Vanguardians Orion Empire 204	Posted - 2013.05.31 01:20:00 - [37] - Quote Sloth9230 wrote: Noc Tempre wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Next time don't waste money you weren't suppose to have to begin with 90% of the players, don't trawl the forum. There was no announcement, there was no in-game mail, heck there's not even a sticky about it. How were they supposed to know they weren't supposed to receive it? By actually paying attention, that's a lot to ask of people, I know And logic 101 for example: "do i know where this money comes from?" and "did i expect my few skillbooks to be worth 200m ISK" If the answer is "No" in at least one case then you should wait at least 24h before going jackson style shopping.
DeadlyAztec11 One-Armed Bandits Unclaimed. 417	Posted - 2013.05.31 01:26:00 - [38] - Quote ladwar wrote: Noc Tempre wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Next time don't waste money you weren't suppose to have to begin with 90% of the players, don't trawl the forum. There was no announcement, there was no in-game mail, heck there's not even a sticky about it. How were they supposed to know they weren't supposed to receive it? there for multiple in-game announcements about it so that's a line bull. in fact I got hit with every single one. Yeah, I got like three, one in the middle of a game lol
Jaqen Morghalis Abandoned Privilege 52	Posted - 2013.05.31 01:27:00 - [39] - Quote nakaya indigene wrote: The players should NEVER pay for the mistakes of the game developer. CCP needs to own this problem and open the secondary market. They're not "paying" for the mistake, because they get to keep the gear they bought. They're just not profitting from it. There's a big difference.
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS 1536	Posted - 2013.05.31 01:30:00 - [40] - Quote Jaqen Morghalis wrote: nakaya indigene wrote: The players should NEVER pay for the mistakes of the game developer. CCP needs to own this problem and open the secondary market. They're not "paying" for the mistake, because they get to keep the gear they bought. They're just not profitting from it. There's a big difference. They don't see the difference, because they're greedy bastards.

Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1776	Posted - 2013.05.31 01:36:00 - [41] - Quote You all are extremely ignorant. CCP took away more money than they gave out in the first place. The CCP wrote was flawed and you are blaming the players.
DJINN leukoplast Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 474	Posted - 2013.05.31 01:37:00 - [42] - Quote I have no sympathy for players who spent all that ISK very well knowing it was a bug and that CCP was taking it back. They don't read the forums? Tough, maybe instead of coming here to ask why they are negative in ISK, they should have came here to find out why they got such a huge surplus of cash in their account in the first place. Or you know, actually play with other people or check corp information? Our corp and alliance had this stuff posted on the front page hours after the respec telling player NOT to spend that ISK because CCP is taking it back. I say let the ones reckless enough to spend it bask in the glory of negative ISK and make them pay it back by using pure militia fits for however long it takes to get out of the negative (or use the crap they purchased with that borrowed money and cry when they can't restock it). Sadly, CCP is likely going to cave in to the ones who spent the ISK they KNEW they weren't supposed to use.
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS 1538	Posted - 2013.05.31 01:38:00 - [43] - Quote Noc Tempre wrote: You all are extremely ignorant. CCP took away more money than they gave out in the first place. The CCP wrote was flawed and you are blaming the players. Then those people should file a petition, instead of being whiny bitches. I haven't logged on, but I'm assuming I lost some ISK too, so if that's the case then I'll file a petition once I confirm it.
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS 1538	Posted - 2013.05.31 01:39:00 - [44] - Quote DJINN leukoplast wrote: maybe instead of coming here to ask why they are negative in ISK, they should have came here to find out why they got such a huge surplus of cash in their account in the first place GTFOH with your logic and common sense
Shion Typhon Intara Direct Action Caldari State 4	Posted - 2013.05.31 05:26:00 - [45] - Quote DRE PrEaCh wrote: I'm starting to notice that everyone who is with CCP on the NEGATIVE ISK problem are pretty much cry babies with no skill, who can't compete with the guys running proto gear. You don't know how to outsmart them, outplay them, and you're happy that you don't have to see these skilled players with protogear on pub matches. I guess CCP doesn't care about the skilled players who put time and money into this game, cuz that's what it takes to get a good toon and build yourself up (skill wise) in the game. To all you skill-less, brainless, cry baby punks out there who agree with the NEGATIVE ISK move, just know that we're still going to stomp you in pub matches using militia gear. :) To CCP from the guys who put time and money into this game, just know we're not going to spend another dime buying AUR in the near future :) You seem like one of those guys who likes to post "HTFU" in threads where people complain about proto-stomping ... well, time to put on your big boy pants. Consider this a life lesson so when this happens to you in RL with your bank you don't get yourself in massive financial doodoo. When that day comes you can look back and thank CCP for making your life a better place.
Isaa Quade PROJECT 86 U 141	Posted - 2013.05.31 05:35:00 - [46] - Quote Whats hilarious is that you guys think some random noob would know why he got a ton of money, then got put into the negative
Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1792	Posted - 2013.05.31 05:38:00 - [47] - Quote Isaa Quade wrote: Whats hilarious is that you guys think some random noob would know why he got a ton of money, then got put into the negative Dood, he should have read the second edit to a post in the announcement forums, you know, the one out of game that 90% of the players don't know exists, let alone visits?
Don Von Hulio Not Guilty EoN. 269	Posted - 2013.05.31 05:40:00 - [48] - Quote So is this just a recent glitch, or have they taken all the money which was given from the first respec? I havent played dust since final release and i cant be arsed to even pick it up again until i see more positives than negatives on the forum.
Isaa Quade PROJECT 86 U 142	Posted - 2013.05.31 05:43:00 - [49] - Quote Noc Tempre wrote: Isaa Quade wrote: Whats hilarious is that you guys think some random noob would know why he got a ton of money, then got put into the negative Dood, he should have read the second edit to a post in the announcement forums, you know, the one out of game that 90% of the players don't know exists, let alone visits? Yeah, and obviously he should stop whining and just take the pile of **** that CCP is giving him. Because even if a meal is poisoned, as long as it's free you don't have a right to complain.
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS 1549	Posted - 2013.05.31 05:50:00 - [50] - Quote Noc Tempre wrote: Isaa Quade wrote: Whats hilarious is that you guys think some random noob would know why he got a ton of money, then got put into the negative Dood, he should have read the second edit to a post in the announcement forums, you know, the one out of game that 90% of the players don't know exists, let alone visits? Hey, if they didn't try and find out why they got a bunch of ISK all of a sudden before spending it, then they really shouldn't really complain when it disappears and leaves them in the red. Being unaware of some flesh eating disease won't protect you from said disease

Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS 1549	Posted - 2013.05.31 05:52:00 - [51] - Quote Isaa Quade wrote: Yeah, and obviously he should stop whining Yes, and file a petition/help ticket like a mature and reasonable individual Or at least visit the bugs/glitches section first
Buster Friently Rosen Association 623	Posted - 2013.05.31 05:59:00 - [52] - Quote Sloth9230 wrote: Noc Tempre wrote: Isaa Quade wrote: Whats hilarious is that you guys think some random noob would know why he got a ton of money, then got put into the negative Dood, he should have read the second edit to a post in the announcement forums, you know, the one out of game that 90% of the players don't know exists, let alone visits? Hey, if they didn't try and find out why they got a bunch of ISK all of a sudden before spending it, then they really shouldn't really complain when it disappears and leaves them in the red. Being unaware of some flesh eating disease won't protect you from said disease Yes, Ignorance of the law excuses no one.
Thanos Warpfiend HongKong n Shanghai Merc Corp 0	Posted - 2013.05.31 06:03:00 - [53] - Quote Hawkin P wrote: twaddle Show how you arrive at 95%
Justin Tymes Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 135	Posted - 2013.05.31 06:06:00 - [54] - Quote I hardly spent any of my ISK I got. But lol at some of you saying "Let them leave" when Dust reviews on the whole are terrible, because the game is nothing more than grinding till you get to 8.5+ mill SP, while people in Calogi suits with TAC ARs are frequently stomping on you while you do so. These players are here regardless of this, and Dust can't afford a large amount of these players leaving because of a CCP screw-up.
Buster Friently Rosen Association 623	Posted - 2013.05.31 06:08:00 - [55] - Quote Justin Tymes wrote: I hardly spent any of my ISK I got. But lol at some of you saying "Let them leave" when Dust reviews on the whole are terrible, because the game is nothing more than grinding till you get to 8.5+ mill SP, while people in Calogi suits with TAC ARs are frequently stomping on you while you do so. These players are here regardless of this, and Dust can't afford a large amount of these players leaving because of a CCP screw-up. Actually, unless they're buying Aurum, CCP can pretty much do without them.
Ivy Ivanovic Ivanovski Les Enfants Terribles Sk33t Fl33t 10	Posted - 2013.05.31 06:12:00 - [56] - Quote Natu Nobilis wrote: If 95% of the players were stupid to spend money they didn-¦t have, then i-¦m perfectly fine with them leaving. It will make the game and the forum better. yup.
lowratehitman Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 628	Posted - 2013.05.31 06:17:00 - [57] - Quote http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAlwoAflWrM
Repe Susi Rautaleijona Gentlemen's Agreement 458	Posted - 2013.05.31 06:31:00 - [58] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: you may be in neg ballance but you now have hundreds of mil isk worth of items lying around spare. use them and get yourself out of neg wallet or petition ccp to remove all items and bring you as far back into + wallet ballance as they can ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Most indeedest. OR could it be that the ones with full inventory of ****, really CAN NOT get the price of them back? You know, cost-efficiency and all that?


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