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Nariec
Carbon 7
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Posted - 2013.05.30 05:20:00 -
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And he was insanely fast, uses a shotgun, and you can't even hit him, if you do, he regenerates his Shield and Armor very fast. I don't know about you all, but it seems that not only that they have taken the role of Assault Suits, they have also taken the role of Shotgun Scouts. |
Cosgar's Alt
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
61
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Posted - 2013.05.30 05:23:00 -
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Compare that suit's base stats with an assault or basic medium frame suit and you'll see that logi's base stats are actually horrible by comparison. |
ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
192
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Posted - 2013.05.30 05:28:00 -
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It would seem as though the forums have a rotation on what to complain about.
This hours' topic: Logis. |
Cosgar's Alt
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
61
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Posted - 2013.05.30 05:39:00 -
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ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote:It would seem as though the forums have a rotation on what to complain about.
This hours' topic: Logis. Makes me miss the good ol' days when everyone QQed about Tanks and the MD... |
lowratehitman
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
621
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Posted - 2013.05.30 05:50:00 -
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Cosgar's Alt wrote:Compare that suit's base stats with an assault or basic medium frame suit and you'll see that logi's base stats are actually horrible by comparison.
We all know by now, at least the people that have been playing awhile now that .....whats on paper........pretty much stays on paper, and is totally opposite than ingame reaility. |
General John Ripper
187. Unclaimed.
326
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Posted - 2013.05.30 05:50:00 -
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I miss when everyone complained about how op I was and how I should be nerfed.
oh wait that was a dream.... |
KOBLAKA1
Opus Arcana Orion Empire
9
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Posted - 2013.05.30 06:16:00 -
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Cosgar's Alt wrote:Compare that suit's base stats with an assault or basic medium frame suit and you'll see that logi's base stats are actually horrible by comparison.
Make sure to look at the slot loadoat and passive bonuses too not just base ehp |
Cosgar's Alt
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
64
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Posted - 2013.05.30 10:35:00 -
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KOBLAKA1 wrote:Cosgar's Alt wrote:Compare that suit's base stats with an assault or basic medium frame suit and you'll see that logi's base stats are actually horrible by comparison. Make sure to look at the slot loadoat and passive bonuses too not just base ehp Compared to a scout or assault with a similar module fitting, a scout or assault will do the job better. Only difference is that the logi is more reliant on equipment and can only mimic the scout or assault. Scouts and assaults will always be faster for a cheaper price, logis are just tankier. It's called having a tradeoff. |
Panther Alpha
Commando Perkone Caldari State
330
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Posted - 2013.05.30 10:39:00 -
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ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote:It would seem as though the forums have a rotation on what to complain about.
This hours' topic: Logis.
Is just the same trolls, complaining over and over again, with different accounts, to they get what they want... I will love for CCP to track users via IP... You'll see that the majority of forum activity, is the same people, with different alts and accounts. |
Hana-Maru
TeamPlayers EoN.
123
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Posted - 2013.05.30 13:06:00 -
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Logi suits ARE NOT over powered.
the bonuses & stats on assault & scout suits just suck. |
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ChromeBreaker
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
532
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Posted - 2013.05.30 13:27:00 -
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:( i miss the days when Heavies were over powered |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
3343
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Posted - 2013.05.30 13:29:00 -
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Hey guys, lets make the support class better than the slayer class at slaying
Awesome idea!
Hey hey, just to be funny, let's call it "logistics"
::snicker snicker:: |
semperfi1999
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
466
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Posted - 2013.05.30 13:32:00 -
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Cosgar's Alt wrote:Compare that suit's base stats with an assault or basic medium frame suit and you'll see that logi's base stats are actually horrible by comparison.
You sir dont understand a thing in this game do you.
Did you know that you can get the logi suit to run at 10.5 mps? And you will still have 2 slots left in your low for other items. Saying that Logies cannot fullfill every role is just dumb because they can. They can pretty much out tank the heavies. They can out run the scouts/assaults. They can out fit every other suit available. And they are balanced? Their shields start to regen in no time flat and they get a bonus 5 armor repper just for being logi. Perhaps you need to go back and look at the stats because you obviously fail to understand the possibilities with those stats and the mods that are available. |
Kitten Empress
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
99
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Posted - 2013.05.30 13:33:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Hey guys, lets make the support class better than the slayer class at slaying
Awesome idea!
Hey hey, just to be funny, let's call it "logistics"
::snicker snicker:: Pretty much this.
I tend to just sit and mix and match suits to see what I can come up with. Logi suits always are the superior ones from my trials, and are also super easy to fit. Yes even with equipment. |
BL4CKST4R
WarRavens
72
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Posted - 2013.05.30 13:34:00 -
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Nariec wrote:And he was insanely fast, uses a shotgun, and you can't even hit him, if you do, he regenerates his Shield and Armor very fast. I don't know about you all, but it seems that not only that they have taken the role of Assault Suits, they have also taken the role of Shotgun Scouts.
I highly doubt this is true Logis are the 2nd slowest class, 4.7m/s for Caldari and Gallente, and 5.0 for minmatar, you probably fought a minmatar assault they are the the fastest assault suit, and the fastest suit aside from the scouts. |
ChromeBreaker
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
532
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Posted - 2013.05.30 13:36:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:Nariec wrote:And he was insanely fast, uses a shotgun, and you can't even hit him, if you do, he regenerates his Shield and Armor very fast. I don't know about you all, but it seems that not only that they have taken the role of Assault Suits, they have also taken the role of Shotgun Scouts. I highly doubt this is true Logis are the 2nd slowest class, 4.7m/s for Caldari and Gallente, and 5.0 for minmatar, you probably fought a minmatar assault they are the the fastest assault suit, and the fastest suit aside from the scouts.
Its all about the slots dude.... THE SLOTS |
semperfi1999
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
466
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Posted - 2013.05.30 13:39:00 -
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ChromeBreaker wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:Nariec wrote:And he was insanely fast, uses a shotgun, and you can't even hit him, if you do, he regenerates his Shield and Armor very fast. I don't know about you all, but it seems that not only that they have taken the role of Assault Suits, they have also taken the role of Shotgun Scouts. I highly doubt this is true Logis are the 2nd slowest class, 4.7m/s for Caldari and Gallente, and 5.0 for minmatar, you probably fought a minmatar assault they are the the fastest assault suit, and the fastest suit aside from the scouts. Its all about the slots dude.... THE SLOTS
Yea obviously ppl are not paying attention.
Minmatar logi with 2 complex catalyzers run at 10.5 mps. That is faster than any scout can get with catalyzers. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
3344
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Posted - 2013.05.30 13:40:00 -
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semperfi1999 wrote:
Yea obviously ppl are not paying attention.
Minmatar logi with 2 complex catalyzers run at 10.5 mps. That is faster than any scout can get with catalyzers.
The problem is that we have far more new players now who feel the need to chime in because they understand how CCP has been balancing this game for the past year or so
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BL4CKST4R
WarRavens
72
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Posted - 2013.05.30 13:41:00 -
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Kitten Empress wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Hey guys, lets make the support class better than the slayer class at slaying
Awesome idea!
Hey hey, just to be funny, let's call it "logistics"
::snicker snicker:: Pretty much this. I tend to just sit and mix and match suits to see what I can come up with. Logi suits always are the superior ones from my trials, and are also super easy to fit. Yes even with equipment.
Only CaLogi is superior than the assault suit, I can make a Gallente assault suit with the same EHP as my Gallente logistics, while the Assault has 1 complex Light modifier, most people don't see this they think oh Logis have more slots so they must be better, but they don't account for base stats, speed, and other functional slots. The problem with this ideology is that people blame the entire logistics group because the CaLogi is broken, instead of narrowing down the problem you shotgun the entire situation and hope you hit your target while obliterating everything in its way, that's why every time CCP fixes something they mess up something else. |
shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon DARKSTAR ARMY
131
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Posted - 2013.05.30 13:42:00 -
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you fought the law and the law won XD |
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Ryder Azorria
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
393
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Posted - 2013.05.30 13:42:00 -
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Hana-Maru wrote:Logi suits ARE NOT over powered.
the bonuses & stats on assault & scout suits just suck. Caldari Logi would like a word with you. |
BL4CKST4R
WarRavens
72
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Posted - 2013.05.30 13:43:00 -
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semperfi1999 wrote:ChromeBreaker wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:Nariec wrote:And he was insanely fast, uses a shotgun, and you can't even hit him, if you do, he regenerates his Shield and Armor very fast. I don't know about you all, but it seems that not only that they have taken the role of Assault Suits, they have also taken the role of Shotgun Scouts. I highly doubt this is true Logis are the 2nd slowest class, 4.7m/s for Caldari and Gallente, and 5.0 for minmatar, you probably fought a minmatar assault they are the the fastest assault suit, and the fastest suit aside from the scouts. Its all about the slots dude.... THE SLOTS Yea obviously ppl are not paying attention. Minmatar logi with 2 complex catalyzers run at 10.5 mps. That is faster than any scout can get with catalyzers. Get a flaylock pistol and shoot at their feet, get the 15 AUR grenade or the ISK variant COMING SOON. Pray and Spray.
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First Prophet
Jaguar Elite
135
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Posted - 2013.05.30 13:49:00 -
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Medium frames took the role of scouts a long time ago. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
3344
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Posted - 2013.05.30 13:50:00 -
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First Prophet wrote:Medium frames took the role of scouts a long time ago.
What's a scout? |
Cosgar's Alt
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
72
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Posted - 2013.05.30 13:51:00 -
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semperfi1999 wrote:Cosgar's Alt wrote:Compare that suit's base stats with an assault or basic medium frame suit and you'll see that logi's base stats are actually horrible by comparison. You sir dont understand a thing in this game do you. Did you know that you can get the logi suit to run at 10.5 mps? And you will still have 2 slots left in your low for other items. Saying that Logies cannot fullfill every role is just dumb because they can. They can pretty much out tank the heavies. They can out run the scouts/assaults. They can out fit every other suit available. And they are balanced? Their shields start to regen in no time flat and they get a bonus 5 armor repper just for being logi. Perhaps you need to go back and look at the stats because you obviously fail to understand the possibilities with those stats and the mods that are available. Every logi can out tank a heavy? Tell me how with each race. Start with the Amarr and Gallente... |
Panther Alpha
Commando Perkone Caldari State
333
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Posted - 2013.05.30 13:54:00 -
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You fought A logi ?... Try fighting about 100 of them, and then come back with constructive, positive feedback. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
3344
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Posted - 2013.05.30 13:57:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:You fought A logi ?... Try fighting about 100 of them, and then come back with constructive, positive feedback.
The results would be skewed because at least 70% of the DUST population don't even have the slightest idea how to play this game
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Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
172
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Posted - 2013.05.30 13:57:00 -
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Nariec wrote:And he was insanely fast, uses a shotgun, and you can't even hit him, if you do, he regenerates his Shield and Armor very fast. I don't know about you all, but it seems that not only that they have taken the role of Assault Suits, they have also taken the role of Shotgun Scouts.
This is awesome. i was hoping to see some diversity. |
BL4CKST4R
WarRavens
72
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Posted - 2013.05.30 14:00:00 -
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semperfi1999 wrote:Cosgar's Alt wrote:Compare that suit's base stats with an assault or basic medium frame suit and you'll see that logi's base stats are actually horrible by comparison. You sir dont understand a thing in this game do you. Did you know that you can get the logi suit to run at 10.5 mps? And you will still have 2 slots left in your low for other items. Saying that Logies cannot fullfill every role is just dumb because they can. They can pretty much out tank the heavies. They can out run the scouts/assaults. They can out fit every other suit available. And they are balanced? Their shields start to regen in no time flat and they get a bonus 5 armor repper just for being logi. Perhaps you need to go back and look at the stats because you obviously fail to understand the possibilities with those stats and the mods that are available.
You do know this is sprint speed not actual moving speed, and if you didn't already know you cant shoot while sprinting. Also if you really really wanted to you can stick 2 Kinetic catalyzers in a assault suit and OMG GUESS WHAT it is now faster than a logi with the same stuff. Oh wow 5 armor repair bonus that requires a 2.4M SP invested while assaults get 5+ Shield repair over the logistic suit of the same race for free while getting a 25% increase to that bonus for leveling up their Assault suit skill. Our shields regen 2 seconds earlier but at a slower pace, my shield takes 21 seconds to recharge, a Gallente Assault suit with the same shield HP amount takes 15 seconds to recharge add in the 2 second delay and its shields recharge at 17 seconds which is still faster. |
Cosgar's Alt
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
73
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Posted - 2013.05.30 14:03:00 -
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People like you are the reason why I get hate mail for playing logi, the real way. Somehow in your narrow views, my Minmatar which despite losing 55 shields is relatively unchanged since E3 makes your epeens go flaccid in jealousy. I got barely more HP than a scout and only marginally faster than a heavy but when you see that yellow, you get yellow running down your leg. If you see a Minmatar logi out there kicking ass like you guys claim all the logis are doing, let me know their name. They're obviously doing something I'm not. |
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