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hooc order Deep Space Republic Gentlemen's Agreement 153	Posted - 2013.05.30 03:43:00 - [31] - Quote You are supposed to use the flaylock with it....eat up the shields then eat up the armor. But yeah lasers use to be a weapon that i had to work to beat...this is a good thing by the way...now i just feel sad for the guys i kill.
2-Ton Twenty-One Imperfects Negative-Feedback 637	Posted - 2013.05.30 03:44:00 - [32] - Quote Laser rifles suck now. As a heavy I do not fear them, that means they are broken. PS iron wolf is not very good. Just saying.
Abron Garr Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 317	Posted - 2013.05.30 03:45:00 - [33] - Quote They're garbage.
Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 634	Posted - 2013.05.30 03:58:00 - [34] - Quote The laser rifles are still good actually (higher tiers). Just not the instant iWin buttons many scrubs needed them to be to get kills. They rip apart shields still when skilled and can keep the enemy at range when defending. You just can't use them for any and all situations now, which the average CoD player wouldn't understand.
DJINN leukoplast Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 473	Posted - 2013.05.30 04:23:00 - [35] - Quote Has anybody actually speced fully into LR's? Maybe nobody has really tried since LR's have been set aside for the newer weapons and nobody ever sees them in the field (therefore nobody thinks they are powerful and never think about using them... it's a vicious cycle). Kind of like the flaylocks, you see a few around here and there and shrug it off, but when you run across somebody who went proto, you know it and see the weapons potential. But they are rarely used, so nobody ever thinks about speceing into them. If a lot of people started using LR's, went proto, and are in every game, before you know it they will be the next FOTM.
xprotoman23 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1691	Posted - 2013.05.30 04:25:00 - [36] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Dunno one guy with the Vizam's melted me a few times today. no offense but you're not very good.
The Robot Devil BetaMax. CRONOS. 323	Posted - 2013.05.30 04:39:00 - [37] - Quote 10 meters more range and a scope like the scrambled rifle would fix them.
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 2013	Posted - 2013.05.30 05:02:00 - [38] - Quote lolLR's One was tickling me today...don't know what their purpose is atm when the Tact. Duvolle has superior range, DMG, DPS... Why even have other guns in DUST tbh when the imbalance is THIS glaring!
lDocHollidayl Imperfects Negative-Feedback 181	Posted - 2013.05.30 05:46:00 - [39] - Quote Guys trying to say it is a weapon are nuts. I do not what all was changed but it blows...I had prof 5 and it still only tickled. One huge change was the size of the laser. One has to be much more accurate and steady and hope they are shooting at a sleeping target.
Aesiron Kor-Azor Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 116	Posted - 2013.05.30 05:58:00 - [40] - Quote I reckon that fully specced, they are deadly, but the problem is, is their range is far too short. Simply increase range, and possibly remove the concept of 'ammo' on the laser rifle...

Yeva Kalsani Reckoners 113	Posted - 2013.05.30 06:06:00 - [41] - Quote The other day I finally got killed by one. But actually a Tac AR had done 95% of killing me, the LR stole the kill.
The Robot Devil BetaMax. CRONOS. 323	Posted - 2013.05.30 06:16:00 - [42] - Quote They out range every light weapon except the sniper rifle, the sights are the biggest problem. I have made some good kills with them because over confident people think they are a joke but the are a good weapon that is too hard to aim. 10-15 more meters and a dot sight would fix them.
Tricanis MK2 G I A N T EoN. 9	Posted - 2013.05.30 06:32:00 - [43] - Quote I fully specialized in the LR for this new build Viziam lv5 specialization and it was useless and it was laughable The Sight was messed up with the iron sights and even hip fire has to much of a sway and the heat builds up only when on the target so as soon as they move you lose your build up. The range needs to be as long as the Tac or longer to compete or just nerf the Tac all together as modded controllers is now a problem (Solution: limit the Rate of Fire) < CCP
Tricanis MK2 G I A N T EoN. 12	Posted - 2013.05.30 21:36:00 - [44] - Quote Yeva Kalsani wrote: The other day I finally got killed by one. But actually a Tac AR had done 95% of killing me, the LR stole the kill. TAC AR is what most people get killed by
negative49er One-Armed Bandits Unclaimed. 8	Posted - 2013.06.01 16:43:00 - [45] - Quote I got through a whole hack while getting hit with a LR
UK-Shots Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 124	Posted - 2013.06.01 16:51:00 - [46] - Quote you meen the lazer rifles are know longer zapping people instantly like a fly zapper?
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. CRONOS. 1787	Posted - 2013.06.01 16:52:00 - [47] - Quote UK-Shots wrote: you meen the lazer rifles are know longer zapping people instantly like a fly zapper? No they're not even dangerous anymore. I'm with the guy who mentioned his HMG. I just sprint up to them with my Breach AR Scout and gun them down while they're shooting at me.
Green Living PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies 338	Posted - 2013.06.01 16:54:00 - [48] - Quote UK-Shots wrote: you meen the lazer rifles are know longer zapping people instantly like a fly zapper? No, they are like a laser pointer now that just gives away your position without doing damage.
KrazyEyeKilla Greek Death Squad 9	Posted - 2013.06.01 16:57:00 - [49] - Quote Melee is more effective.
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. CRONOS. 1787	Posted - 2013.06.01 17:02:00 - [50] - Quote At a minimum, we need to at least get the old camera-sight back. Those ironsights add insult to injury by making it so you can't even see the beam, and with the incredibly bright bloom effect added in, you can't see what you're shooting unless they're close enough to be within the minimum range where it does next to no damage.

KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 4165	Posted - 2013.06.01 17:03:00 - [51] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Dunno one guy with the Vizam's melted me a few times today. Someone managing to kill you with it in no way proves it isn't underpowered. Its a mid-long range weapon that is stuck with an obstructive ironsight, that at the very least should be fixed.
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. CRONOS. 1787	Posted - 2013.06.01 17:05:00 - [52] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Dunno one guy with the Vizam's melted me a few times today. Someone managing to kill you with it in no way proves it isn't underpowered. Its a mid-long range weapon that is stuck with an obstructive ironsight, that at the very least should be fixed. Yeah, what the hell was wrong with the camera-scope? It was only the AR fanboys that were complaining about those. It honestly made sense for the weapon, unlike these damn rifle ironsights that make you try and aim through the bloom effect of the gun.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 4165	Posted - 2013.06.01 17:08:00 - [53] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: At a minimum, we need to at least get the old camera-sight back. Those ironsights add insult to injury by making it so you can't even see the beam, and with the incredibly bright bloom effect added in, you can't see what you're shooting unless they're close enough to be within the minimum range where it does next to no damage. I agree with you 100%
Green Living PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies 338	Posted - 2013.06.01 17:45:00 - [54] - Quote +1 to this conversation.
S0LlD SNAKE PLAYSTATION4 81	Posted - 2013.06.01 18:26:00 - [55] - Quote WAAAY better than Plasma Cannon , now thats a useless weapon. Need to charge before fire Reload after every projectile Aiming is like throwing a stone Weak in damage against turrets , takes 4 shots to take a turret down with a proto Cant find a use or role for it in dust other than collecting dust
Echoist Fenrir's Wolves RUST415 4	Posted - 2013.06.01 18:58:00 - [56] - Quote You people make me laugh lol. While i do agree that the laser rifle needs its iron sights fixed and a slight range buff, i can still melt the ** out of people using it and i'm not even at proficiency level 5 yet lol. Although you can't use it in every situation about 8/10 times i'll destroy some nublet using his oh so powerful tactical assault rifle. Especially with this up coming nerf to the tactical assault rifle decreasing its rate of fire and some other things will i even be able to go toe to toe with them more occasionally. Now keep in mind that i'm not even using a heavy, i use a lvl 3 basic minmatar with only 150 shield and 247 armor. Also the laser rifle isn't really an offensive weapon, it should mainly be used to defend an objective, me and my corp mate defend this one objective by ourselves against a hefty amount of tac users, scouts, and heavies of all kinds. Plus i almost never go negative when using my elm laser, you just need to learn how to use it properly to be able to melt the ** out of people's faces lol. Also why are you guys such dicks to our CPM? Maybe if we actually communicated in a orderly fashion to them would we be able to fixed all these imbalances in the weapons ands suits so that they could relay that back to CCP.
Matakage WildCard Ninja Clan 267	Posted - 2013.06.01 19:05:00 - [57] - Quote WAIT A SECOND HOLD EVERYTHING... Cut to the middle of the video when he shoots the dropship that's right above him. tap tap tap tap ... If you're trying to fire the laser weapon in short bursts, then it's definitely going to suck. I saw him over-heat a few times before that, but seeing him attack that dropship worried me. For the record, the laser weapon is more powerful the longer it fires,
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 287	Posted - 2013.06.01 20:22:00 - [58] - Quote LR (the weapon that is supposed to be king of long range) is ...useless close range ...gets outdamaged by any weapon at medium range ...and gets outdamage by TAR at its optimal range you dont have to be a genius to realize it sucks.
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 1395	Posted - 2013.06.01 20:41:00 - [59] - Quote Interesting. Looks like it takes down shields as fast as ever, but can't make it through armor. I've been planning for a while to test this out this build. Might have a heavy with a laser rifle, paired with a MD logi.


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