DUST Search - The Future: LAVs become nerfed and priced

Spkr4theDead wrote:

Shut up, stop crying, and start carrying AV weapons. I'm stick of you people whining like children that all vehicles are overpowered and they're absolutely impossible to destroy. Quite frankly that's bullshit. I'm reaching a point to where I'll drop enough ISK to get 50 tank fits, and start pissing them away in Ambush matches to make you people stop crying.

It SHOULD be difficult to kill a tank? Why? Because they have the highest total hitpoints of anything a person can use in the game. Why? Because railguns can shoot a long, long distance, keeping you at bay. Why? Because they can run you over if they're going fast enough and you don't move. Why? Because we don't all run without a squad/solo. I gun/spot for a top tanker. If need be, I'll pull out my own tank, one of which is exactly the same as his, another is build entirely for maximum damage. I could fit a variety of tanks, including spider tanking, which would make it absolutely impossible for him to be killed in a match without a 6-man squad coming after us with prototype AV. Why? Because you simply shouldn't be able to solo a 1.2mil ISK tank, which required over 8 mil SP to fit properly, while I'm sure everybody still has hundreds of the hacked EX-0 AV grenades, which required absolutely no SP investment on your part.

Stop complaining that something is overpowered or too hard to take down, when CCP gives you the tools to do so. After that, it SHOULD take teamwork to destroy a tanker team.

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Makyre Vahliha The White Hawk Knights 140	Posted - 2013.05.29 02:17:00 - [1] - Quote There is the likely possibility of the LAV being changed in a future build due to most of the community in an outrage over it being "abused." To be honest, I do not want to see this happen. Some of you might think it won't change, but it's inevitable. The complaints won't stop. And the complaints won't stop long after the changes are made to the LAVs since half of the other community wants it to be fun and free. I still think it's fun to run over people since it's natural. I get run over a couple of times and even a few times by dropships on top of the buildings. The problem is NOT the LAV. The problem is people wanting to win and staying alive. People hate to get shot, run over, blown, etc and that is a natural part of FPS games and any war games. I say deal with it and lighten up. You get run over? There's plenty of clones, it's not the end of the game or the world. Get up and try again and use your brain. It's a game and it's supposed to be fun.
General John Ripper 187. Unclaimed. 312	Posted - 2013.05.29 02:19:00 - [2] - Quote people just need something to complain about.
Cody Sietz The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION 171	Posted - 2013.05.29 02:21:00 - [3] - Quote Honestly, if they nerf caldari MLT LAVs that will fit it.
Dale Templar Regime Of Shadow Marines Alpha Wolf Pack 13	Posted - 2013.05.29 02:22:00 - [4] - Quote While I get pissed off as much as the next person about getting run over, my main reason for wanting them priced is so when I join a match, and call down a vehicle, I don't get "Vehicle Quota Reached" within the first 15 seconds of the match, it's ridiculous.
hgghyujh Expert Intervention Caldari State 6	Posted - 2013.05.29 02:24:00 - [5] - Quote I'm gonna drop this link here
Makyre Vahliha The White Hawk Knights 142	Posted - 2013.05.29 02:35:00 - [6] - Quote hgghyujh wrote: I'm gonna drop this link here Very good read. Well, I don't know how this would get out to everyone. Maybe a sticky? Any ideas? The community seriously needs better organized information so everyone understands the role of the vehicles and especially the AV in the game before they complain.
Spkr4theDead Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 103	Posted - 2013.05.29 03:10:00 - [7] - Quote Shut up, stop crying, and start carrying AV weapons. I'm stick of you people whining like children that all vehicles are overpowered and they're absolutely impossible to destroy. Quite frankly that's bullshit. I'm reaching a point to where I'll drop enough ISK to get 50 tank fits, and start pissing them away in Ambush matches to make you people stop crying. It SHOULD be difficult to kill a tank? Why? Because they have the highest total hitpoints of anything a person can use in the game. Why? Because railguns can shoot a long, long distance, keeping you at bay. Why? Because they can run you over if they're going fast enough and you don't move. Why? Because we don't all run without a squad/solo. I gun/spot for a top tanker. If need be, I'll pull out my own tank, one of which is exactly the same as his, another is build entirely for maximum damage. I could fit a variety of tanks, including spider tanking, which would make it absolutely impossible for him to be killed in a match without a 6-man squad coming after us with prototype AV. Why? Because you simply shouldn't be able to solo a 1.2mil ISK tank, which required over 8 mil SP to fit properly, while I'm sure everybody still has hundreds of the hacked EX-0 AV grenades, which required absolutely no SP investment on your part. Stop complaining that something is overpowered or too hard to take down, when CCP gives you the tools to do so. After that, it SHOULD take teamwork to destroy a tanker team.
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS 1515	Posted - 2013.05.29 03:11:00 - [8] - Quote Free speeders for everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey Fatty SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 27	Posted - 2013.05.29 16:52:00 - [9] - Quote "The problem is NOT the LAV. The problem is people wanting to win and staying alive. People hate to get shot, run over, blown, etc and that is a natural part of FPS games and any war games." -Makyre Vahliha To all who hate getting blown...i feels ya :)
hooc order Deep Space Republic Gentlemen's Agreement 147	Posted - 2013.05.29 17:09:00 - [10] - Quote Dale Templar wrote: While I get pissed off as much as the next person about getting run over, my main reason for wanting them priced is so when I join a match, and call down a vehicle, I don't get "Vehicle Quota Reached" within the first 15 seconds of the match, it's ridiculous. /facepalm You do of course realize that the Quota is a LAV nerf.

KOBLAKA1 Opus Arcana Orion Empire 3	Posted - 2013.05.29 17:14:00 - [11] - Quote I say keep it free but the LAV should take damage for running over people. He'll my heavy has almost as much hp as one there shouldn't be no consequence running over the boulder that is me.
mollerz Minja Scouts 330	Posted - 2013.05.29 17:16:00 - [12] - Quote KOBLAKA1 wrote: I say keep it free but the LAV should take damage for running over people. Hell my heavy has almost as much hp as one there shouldn't be no consequence running over the boulder that is me. heavies are the funnest to squish.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 4078	Posted - 2013.05.29 17:16:00 - [13] - Quote KOBLAKA1 wrote: I say keep it free but the LAV should take damage for running over people. Hell my heavy has almost as much hp as one there shouldn't be no consequence running over the boulder that is me. I'm personally fine with the current state of LAVs, but I'm all for this. Should silence the whining.
S0LlD SNAKE PLAYSTATION4 71	Posted - 2013.05.29 17:19:00 - [14] - Quote i cant belive ppl are bitching over something like getting run over by a LAV ... its YOUR fault if you let that happened are you blind and deaf? srsly
Th3rdSun L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 335	Posted - 2013.05.29 17:28:00 - [15] - Quote If I wanted to do nothing but run people over in LAVs, I would just play Twisted Metal. LAVs are out of control right now and need to be (not nerfed)adjusted.
Daedric Lothar Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 501	Posted - 2013.05.29 17:38:00 - [16] - Quote I love the forum metagame in Dust. On any given day everyone complains about something horribly until its nerfed. Then someone abuses something else and its nerfed, everything will be nerfed to the lowest common denominator In the end there will be Pandas Everywhere, You are giving us Pandas. Thank for nothing.
Jin Robot Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance 669	Posted - 2013.05.29 17:40:00 - [17] - Quote The complaints wont stop because nobody likes spending 60% of the match just looking out for murder taxis. It will change because it has to change.
copy left SyNergy Gaming EoN. 207	Posted - 2013.05.29 17:47:00 - [18] - Quote ALL LAV's need a health reduction, that is all.
S0LlD SNAKE PLAYSTATION4 73	Posted - 2013.05.29 18:09:00 - [19] - Quote Daedric Lothar wrote: I love the forum metagame in Dust. On any given day everyone complains about something horribly until its nerfed. Then someone abuses something else and its nerfed, everything will be nerfed to the lowest common denominator In the end there will be Pandas Everywhere You are giving us Pandas. Thanks for nothing. and all this because someone doesnt look left and right before crossing the street most of these kids dont know or ignore common sense its like they are programed drones , when they see an enemy or want to go somewhere they ignore everything and go straight line to enemy or target u deserve to die when u do that like in those free mmo's where u let your character do automatic quest tracking , no need to hold W and go there just press an button and he goes straight line to the quest Automatic Dust Bunnies
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon Plus 521	Posted - 2013.05.29 18:11:00 - [20] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Shut up, stop crying, and start carrying AV weapons. I'm stick of you people whining like children that all vehicles are overpowered and they're absolutely impossible to destroy. Quite frankly that's bullshit. I'm reaching a point to where I'll drop enough ISK to get 50 tank fits, and start pissing them away in Ambush matches to make you people stop crying. It SHOULD be difficult to kill a tank? Why? Because they have the highest total hitpoints of anything a person can use in the game. Why? Because railguns can shoot a long, long distance, keeping you at bay. Why? Because they can run you over if they're going fast enough and you don't move. Why? Because we don't all run without a squad/solo. I gun/spot for a top tanker. If need be, I'll pull out my own tank, one of which is exactly the same as his, another is build entirely for maximum damage. I could fit a variety of tanks, including spider tanking, which would make it absolutely impossible for him to be killed in a match without a 6-man squad coming after us with prototype AV. Why? Because you simply shouldn't be able to solo a 1.2mil ISK tank, which required over 8 mil SP to fit properly, while I'm sure everybody still has hundreds of the hacked EX-0 AV grenades, which required absolutely no SP investment on your part. Stop complaining that something is overpowered or too hard to take down, when CCP gives you the tools to do so. After that, it SHOULD take teamwork to destroy a tanker team. This is... an LAV thread. Cry somewhere else, please.

Skihids The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION 1507	Posted - 2013.05.29 18:17:00 - [21] - Quote Jin Robot wrote: The complaints wont stop because nobody likes spending 60% of the match just looking out for murder taxis. It will change because it has to change. Things will change if people spend a tiny bit of SP on AV. When the hunting gets good and the game plentiful we will get more hunters who in turn cull the population. You don't need to invoke divine interference to limit the population, just let things take a natural course.
Lavirac JR DUST University Ivy League 151	Posted - 2013.05.29 18:19:00 - [22] - Quote How about buffing proximity mines instead of nerfing LAVs? Just a thought I stole from Feedback and Suggestions...
Knarf Black Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 862	Posted - 2013.05.29 18:22:00 - [23] - Quote The problem is solely with the LLAVs right now. Nothing that does respectable damage against shields can hit them reliably.
Jin Robot Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance 670	Posted - 2013.05.29 18:31:00 - [24] - Quote Skihids wrote: Jin Robot wrote: The complaints wont stop because nobody likes spending 60% of the match just looking out for murder taxis. It will change because it has to change. Things will change if people spend a tiny bit of SP on AV. When the hunting gets good and the game plentiful we will get more hunters who in turn cull the population. You don't need to invoke divine interference to limit the population, just let things take a natural course. I still dont understand why free LAVs exist. Where are my free AV nades then? If it costs SP and isk to counter them, why dont they cost anything?
S0LlD SNAKE PLAYSTATION4 73	Posted - 2013.05.29 18:32:00 - [25] - Quote Jin Robot wrote: Skihids wrote: Jin Robot wrote: The complaints wont stop because nobody likes spending 60% of the match just looking out for murder taxis. It will change because it has to change. Things will change if people spend a tiny bit of SP on AV. When the hunting gets good and the game plentiful we will get more hunters who in turn cull the population. You don't need to invoke divine interference to limit the population, just let things take a natural course. I still dont understand why free LAVs exist. Where are my free AV nades then? If it costs SP and isk to counter them, why dont they cost anything? why does free militia gear exist then?
Jin Robot Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance 670	Posted - 2013.05.29 18:40:00 - [26] - Quote S0LlD SNAKE wrote: Jin Robot wrote: Skihids wrote: Jin Robot wrote: The complaints wont stop because nobody likes spending 60% of the match just looking out for murder taxis. It will change because it has to change. Things will change if people spend a tiny bit of SP on AV. When the hunting gets good and the game plentiful we will get more hunters who in turn cull the population. You don't need to invoke divine interference to limit the population, just let things take a natural course. I still dont understand why free LAVs exist. Where are my free AV nades then? If it costs SP and isk to counter them, why dont they cost anything? why does free militia gear exist then? I imagine because it gives people who have no isk the means to continue playing the game. Not the same situation at all. Edit: I assume you are speaking of militia dropsuits.
S0LlD SNAKE PLAYSTATION4 73	Posted - 2013.05.29 18:54:00 - [27] - Quote Jin Robot wrote: S0LlD SNAKE wrote: Jin Robot wrote: Skihids wrote: Jin Robot wrote: The complaints wont stop because nobody likes spending 60% of the match just looking out for murder taxis. It will change because it has to change. Things will change if people spend a tiny bit of SP on AV. When the hunting gets good and the game plentiful we will get more hunters who in turn cull the population. You don't need to invoke divine interference to limit the population, just let things take a natural course. I still dont understand why free LAVs exist. Where are my free AV nades then? If it costs SP and isk to counter them, why dont they cost anything? why does free militia gear exist then? I imagine because it gives people who have no isk the means to continue playing the game. Not the same situation at all. Edit: I assume you are speaking of militia dropsuits. the militia fittings with roles yes do u really want LAV's to become priced? you think that will stop people using them? if they become priced their quality needs to improve otherwise no one will use them and might aswell remove them LAV's from the game and all that just because you dont pay attention to your surroudings... if LAV become priced and improved people will use them to take down tanks then tank ppl will get upset and demand tank buff then i get upset and demand swarm buff because i cant kill LAV's and tanks anymore and all that because you dont pay attention to your surroundings its not like they APPEAR from Silent Hill's fog and run you over first you hear them if they close enough and if you dont have visual contact you have a RADAR i hate explaining common sense but someone got to do it
Jin Robot Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance 670	Posted - 2013.05.29 18:57:00 - [28] - Quote I just see free LAVs as taking away from dedicated LAV drivers also. Why shouldnt you have to skill into and purchase them?
Bones McGavins TacoCat Industries 267	Posted - 2013.05.29 19:06:00 - [29] - Quote Quote: AV. Why? Because you simply shouldn't be able to solo a 1.2mil ISK tank, which required over 8 mil SP to fit properly This is where you are wrong. Why not? I can solo a 200K proto suit with a free militia. Why should you get an auto win button against another player just because he didnt spend enough money or have enough SP? You pay for an advantage, a heafty one, but not an auto win button.
S0LlD SNAKE PLAYSTATION4 73	Posted - 2013.05.29 19:07:00 - [30] - Quote Jin Robot wrote: I just see free LAVs as taking away from dedicated LAV drivers also. Why shouldnt you have to skill into and purchase them? because maps are big enough and if u need to get to an objective u have more chances to get there with a LAV since time is everything u really want to wait for someone with SP into LAV to come to pick u up? what if no one in u team has LAV SP or any LAV? if it would be to walk u most likely die untill u get there or lose the objective so u jump into a LAV and drive and if some moron is in the middle of the road and he ignores you dont u think he deserves to die?



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