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Abron Garr Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 312	Posted - 2013.05.28 17:19:00 - [1] - Quote We were told constantly during Beta 1.0 that vehicles in Dust would not be free. Instead, Ambush maps are nothing but free LAV spam.
Byozuma Kegawa The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION 76	Posted - 2013.05.28 17:27:00 - [2] - Quote Because there are still new players and new players get free dropsuits, so why not free LAVs?
StubbyDucky KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 18	Posted - 2013.05.28 17:28:00 - [3] - Quote Because!
Ansiiis The Trustworthy Seraphim Auxiliaries CRONOS. 42	Posted - 2013.05.28 17:29:00 - [4] - Quote One thing - make millitia LAVs killable by one proto nade - Madrugar takes only three, a fee LAV takes 2
Abron Garr Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 313	Posted - 2013.05.28 17:29:00 - [5] - Quote Byozuma Kegawa wrote: Because there are still new players and new players get free dropsuits, so why not free LAVs? Why not free tanks? Why not free Dropships? Why not free orbitals?
semperfi1999 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 463	Posted - 2013.05.28 17:29:00 - [6] - Quote better question. Why can the free LAVs take an ADV packed nade and then drive off like it was nothing?
Mocha Biscotti Red Star. EoN. 29	Posted - 2013.05.28 17:29:00 - [7] - Quote Byozuma Kegawa wrote: Because there are still new players and new players get free dropsuits, so why not free LAVs? Does this mean CCP can turn off the free lavs once they leave the academy?? That way I wouldnt have to deal with them anymore!! yay~
Abron Garr Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 313	Posted - 2013.05.28 17:31:00 - [8] - Quote semperfi1999 wrote: better question. Why can the free LAVs take an ADV packed nade and then drive off like it was nothing? Yeah, at least you were able to punish LAV spammers with AV grenades. Now, not so much.
Spkr4theDead Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 103	Posted - 2013.05.28 17:31:00 - [9] - Quote Abron Garr wrote: We were told constantly during Beta 1.0 that vehicles in Dust would not be free. Instead, Ambush maps are nothing but free LAV spam. Skill up for forge guns. Stop complaining about a problem you can't bother yourself to take care of.
Abron Garr Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 313	Posted - 2013.05.28 17:33:00 - [10] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Abron Garr wrote: We were told constantly during Beta 1.0 that vehicles in Dust would not be free. Instead, Ambush maps are nothing but free LAV spam. Skill up for forge guns. Stop complaining about a problem you can't bother yourself to take care of. Why do you skill up for LAVs instead of using the free ones to run over people like a mongoloid.

KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 4059	Posted - 2013.05.28 17:35:00 - [11] - Quote Same reason there are still "free" dropsuit fittings. If you have a problem with free LAV spam, then use your free swarm launcher fit to deal with them instead of just whining. They're easy points, especially when you combined the swarm launcher with cheap standard AV grenades. Infantry gets 4 starter dropsuit fits and no one complains, but vehicle users get one free LAV fitting and people constantly whine about it.
Callidus Vanus BetaMax. CRONOS. 58	Posted - 2013.05.28 17:38:00 - [12] - Quote If people would just look both ways before crossing the street then the road toll in Dust would be greatly reduced. Seriously people its a giant car, if you didn't see it coming then you need to work on your spacial awareness. Free lav's are not op.
Xavier Hastings ZionTCD Unclaimed. 255	Posted - 2013.05.28 17:38:00 - [13] - Quote Free LAVs were primarily used to get around the map faster. Now, they are murder taxis. Sweet, delicious, murder taxis.
Abron Garr Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 313	Posted - 2013.05.28 17:39:00 - [14] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Same reason there are still "free" dropsuit fittings. If you have a problem with free LAV spam, then use your free swarm launcher fit to deal with them instead of just whining. They're easy points, especially when you combined the swarm launcher with cheap standard AV grenades. Infantry gets 4 starter dropsuit fits and no one complains, but vehicle users get one free LAV fitting and people constantly whine about it. There wasn't much "whining" about it when AV grenades instapopped LAVs. Now all they're used for is to mow people down.
Celestial Emperor Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 2	Posted - 2013.05.28 17:39:00 - [15] - Quote Abron Garr wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Abron Garr wrote: We were told constantly during Beta 1.0 that vehicles in Dust would not be free. Instead, Ambush maps are nothing but free LAV spam. Skill up for forge guns. Stop complaining about a problem you can't bother yourself to take care of. Why don't you skill up for LAVs instead of using the free ones to run over people like a mongoloid. So you're complaining that some people use every weapon at their disposal? I never cross any open ground if I can't immediately hide behind something to avoid such ignoble deaths and any player who is even remotely close to decent would too. Anyone not being constantly alert for LAVs and being in an area where an LAV can take them out deserves to die.
VLIGHT5 The Judas Coalition 179	Posted - 2013.05.28 17:41:00 - [16] - Quote Free LAV's need to go, but CCP probably won't do it because it's logical and doing so would mean they actually kept their promises.
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate 153	Posted - 2013.05.28 17:44:00 - [17] - Quote I'm guessing CCP is trying to get some more AV guys out there. The hacked Exo teaser and free LAVs seem like a message to the public. Proto tanks are coming, if you are having trouble with LAVs, what are you going to do when there are real vehicles rolling around? If the community cant handle a few teeny tiny jeeps, these forums will be filled with tears when the Big Boys roll out. There will be pleading and begging and crying. Why should they have to nerf something we can easily deal with?
Abron Garr Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 313	Posted - 2013.05.28 17:45:00 - [18] - Quote Celestial Emperor wrote: Abron Garr wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Abron Garr wrote: We were told constantly during Beta 1.0 that vehicles in Dust would not be free. Instead, Ambush maps are nothing but free LAV spam. Skill up for forge guns. Stop complaining about a problem you can't bother yourself to take care of. Why don't you skill up for LAVs instead of using the free ones to run over people like a mongoloid. So you're complaining that some people use every weapon at their disposal? I never cross any open ground if I can't immediately hide behind something to avoid such ignoble deaths and any player who is even remotely close to decent would too. Anyone not being constantly alert for LAVs and being in an area where an LAV can take them out deserves to die. So you honestly believe free murder taxi contributes to making this game a decent shooter? We had other free vehicles during the beta too. Funny enough, CCP decided to remove them because they greatly detracted from gameplay and watered down what little existed of Dust gunplay. If you want to mow people down in LAVs then by all means do so, but you should have to spec into LAVs and pay a price for doing it.
Abron Garr Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 313	Posted - 2013.05.28 17:46:00 - [19] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: I'm guessing CCP is trying to get some more AV guys out there. The hacked Exo teaser and free LAVs seem like a message to the public. Proto tanks are coming, if you are having trouble with LAVs, what are you going to do when there are real vehicles rolling around? If the community cant handle a few teeny tiny jeeps, these forums will be filled with tears when the Big Boys roll out. There will be pleading and begging and crying. Why should they have to nerf something we can easily deal with? Then why were the free LAVs buffed up to handle more AV grenades?
First Prophet Jaguar Elite 123	Posted - 2013.05.28 17:47:00 - [20] - Quote Why not use the free militia swarm launcher to take down those free militia lavs? They can only take two swarm volleys.

Doc Noah Algintal Core Gallente Federation 42	Posted - 2013.05.28 17:50:00 - [21] - Quote I kill free LAVs pretty easily. 1 standard swarm + 1 standard av gets the job done fast. Only have a bit of trouble with blood saga which can tank an extra swarm/av grenade. While I dont agree with doing away with the free LAV, I think there should be a limit to prevent spam like 1) Can only have one on the field at a time, if the other one is abandoned or hacked, it has to be destroyed or recalled in order to call another one. 2) Cooldown timer of about 5 minutes These only apply to permanent blueprint vehicles for obvious reasons of preventing spam on the field.
Xender17 Murderz for hire 106	Posted - 2013.05.28 17:52:00 - [22] - Quote (I'm a tanker) The only reason I want them gone is how they support players into skilling into AV. There has been a ridiculous increase in AV weaponry on the battle field.
VLIGHT5 The Judas Coalition 179	Posted - 2013.05.28 17:54:00 - [23] - Quote First Prophet wrote: Why not use the free militia swarm launcher to take down those free militia lavs? They can only take two swarm volleys. How? We're running along, fighting, and then... A guy in a free LAV comes flying out of nowhere, runs you over, and drives off. What am I supposed to do, respawn as basic Anti-Armor and follow him around to kill him? No. You shouldn't be able to get a free kill machine, whose only counter is to force specialized players into one narrow role just to be able to defend themselves.
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2204	Posted - 2013.05.28 17:55:00 - [24] - Quote Humvees run people over in Battlefield. Free LAVs can't take much damage. Now Logi LAVs, they're proper murder taxis.
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate 153	Posted - 2013.05.28 18:00:00 - [25] - Quote Abron Garr wrote: Darken-Sol wrote: I'm guessing CCP is trying to get some more AV guys out there. The hacked Exo teaser and free LAVs seem like a message to the public. Proto tanks are coming, if you are having trouble with LAVs, what are you going to do when there are real vehicles rolling around? If the community cant handle a few teeny tiny jeeps, these forums will be filled with tears when the Big Boys roll out. There will be pleading and begging and crying. Why should they have to nerf something we can easily deal with? Then why were the free LAVs buffed up to handle more AV grenades? to prepare you for what is to come
Abron Garr Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 314	Posted - 2013.05.28 18:07:00 - [26] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: Abron Garr wrote: Darken-Sol wrote: I'm guessing CCP is trying to get some more AV guys out there. The hacked Exo teaser and free LAVs seem like a message to the public. Proto tanks are coming, if you are having trouble with LAVs, what are you going to do when there are real vehicles rolling around? If the community cant handle a few teeny tiny jeeps, these forums will be filled with tears when the Big Boys roll out. There will be pleading and begging and crying. Why should they have to nerf something we can easily deal with? Then why were the free LAVs buffed up to handle more AV grenades? to prepare you for what is to come I've been here for over a year. I've seen what marauders can do to a team, but there is a significant skill point investment associated with them. There isn't any sp investment with free LAVs, that's my issue.
Fox Gaden DUST University Ivy League 376	Posted - 2013.05.28 18:10:00 - [27] - Quote When Speeders are released, free Militia Speeders should replace the free LAV. A motorcycle size vehicle would do less damage when ramming a guy with an exoskeleton suit than a jeep sized vehicle, and they would still get you where you need to go.
semperfi1999 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 463	Posted - 2013.05.28 18:22:00 - [28] - Quote If the free vehicle could be killed by a adv packed AV then I would not have an issue with them. The problem is they eat AV nades like they are nothing and then drive off....and those are the free ones. 2 swarms? Why should it take 2 swarms to kill a free LAV? free LAVs should not have gotten a HP buff. Just because CCP did it doesnt make it right.
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate 154	Posted - 2013.05.28 22:44:00 - [29] - Quote semperfi1999 wrote: If the free vehicle could be killed by a adv packed AV then I would not have an issue with them. The problem is they eat AV nades like they are nothing and then drive off....and those are the free ones. 2 swarms? Why should it take 2 swarms to kill a free LAV? free LAVs should not have gotten a HP buff. Just because CCP did it doesnt make it right. you are using explosives against sheilds, not to bright. try flux with your swarms. send me a squad invite some time i can show you how to kill everything. I ve only spent 2mil sp from the respec and have fits designed to deal with any situation.
Quill Killian Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 155	Posted - 2013.05.28 22:48:00 - [30] - Quote Callidus Vanus wrote: If people would just look both ways before crossing the street then the road toll in Dust would be greatly reduced ... That, or race up a mountain when one's bearing down on you and break out a proto swarm launcher. Bye-bye, LAV.



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