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Dust HaHakoke
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.05.28 22:50:00 -
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They still exist to give forge guns something to shoot |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
4728
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Posted - 2013.05.28 22:51:00 -
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Free LAVs are like pinatas, its the LLAVs that are giving me the bull fight experience these days and I am finding it a good challenge. Nailed 2 so far today before the hotfix I will say in current standard gear or militia gear they're certainly not soloable the ones I slew today I had help with. |
arimal lavaren
L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
272
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Posted - 2013.05.28 22:54:00 -
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I've been of the opinion that the free LAV should have been gone a long time ago if you want to overcome the movement limitations of your drop suit, you should have to pay for it. I could care less about the LAV spam that is not really a problem as they are easily dispatched. but free anything is counter to the whole rISK vs. reward game.
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Johnny Guilt
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
99
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Posted - 2013.05.29 00:16:00 -
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It's like im playing the beta again when they first put then in time for proto proymines again |
Dale Templar
Regime Of Shadow Marines Alpha Wolf Pack
13
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Posted - 2013.05.29 02:00:00 -
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Get rid of them, jesus, I joined a match around an hour ago, dropped from the MCC tried to call a tank and literally 10 seconds into the match THE VEHICLE LIMIT HAS BEEN REACHED. **** offfff.... |
hgghyujh
Expert Intervention Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2013.05.29 02:46:00 -
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how about you spam free swarm luanchers in ambush then, you wouldn't belive how well I do with that ****, if they are free one clip is all you need reload and take out the next one so on so forth easy day and double the WP. |
Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
103
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Posted - 2013.05.29 03:18:00 -
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Abron Garr wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Abron Garr wrote:We were told constantly during Beta 1.0 that vehicles in Dust would not be free. Instead, Ambush maps are nothing but free LAV spam. Skill up for forge guns. Stop complaining about a problem you can't bother yourself to take care of. Why don't you skill up for LAVs instead of using the free ones to run over people like a mongoloid. LOL
Every single skill point I've invested so far is to make my vehicles better. You don't see me rolling around in a Madrugar, or a Limbus? I'm thinking about waiting to get Gallente Logistics LAV lvl 5, so I'm impossible to kill when in that car. I already have access to the top large blasters and railguns. I have 6700 armor on my go-to railgun tank, with 2 hardeners and an Ion Cannon. |
Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
103
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Posted - 2013.05.29 03:24:00 -
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VLIGHT5 wrote:First Prophet wrote:Why not use the free militia swarm launcher to take down those free militia lavs? They can only take two swarm volleys. How? We're running along, fighting, and then... A guy in a free LAV comes flying out of nowhere, runs you over, and drives off. What am I supposed to do, respawn as basic Anti-Armor and follow him around to kill him? No. You shouldn't be able to get a free kill machine, whose only counter is to force specialized players into one narrow role just to be able to defend themselves. You're still complaining because you've put what, a few levels into grenades? You can get Aurum CBR7 swarm launchers with swarm level 1. Why are you still complaining? |
Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
103
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Posted - 2013.05.29 03:26:00 -
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semperfi1999 wrote:If the free vehicle could be killed by a adv packed AV then I would not have an issue with them. The problem is they eat AV nades like they are nothing and then drive off....and those are the free ones. 2 swarms? Why should it take 2 swarms to kill a free LAV? free LAVs should not have gotten a HP buff. Just because CCP did it doesnt make it right. So you're basically complaining that it's too hard to destroy militia gear. |
Jason Pearson
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1398
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Posted - 2013.05.29 03:39:00 -
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AV Grenades are not a real form of AV. Stop using a crutch and HTFU.
If we want the removal of free LAVs, we also want the removal of free Militia Fits. We can make this relatively painless for new players as well. Allow Academy players access to unlimited starter fits and free LAVs (As it currently is.). Upon achieving the requirements for leaving the Academy, send the player a mail along the lines of this..
"Congratulations Merc, you have graduated Academy and as such, have access to mercenary contracts across New Eden. Because of your graduation, you will no longer have access to the Academy Armoury, but as a graduation present we would like to award you the following.
x100 Militia [Insert Race Here] Dropsuits x50 Militia [Insert Race Here] Rifles x25 Militia Swarm Launchers x25 Militia Sniper Rifles x25 Militia [Insert Race Here] Light Assault Vehicles.
Good Luck merc, you're going to need it."
Ta-da, problem solved, new players are able to survive in Academy mode, and are given a bonus gift for graduating. It also means they have 25 "Free" LAVs available and will have to purchase more. |
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Tectonic Fusion
The Unholy Legion of Darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY
20
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Posted - 2013.05.29 03:44:00 -
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Abron Garr wrote:Byozuma Kegawa wrote:Because there are still new players and new players get free dropsuits, so why not free LAVs? Why not free tanks? Why not free Dropships? Why not free orbitals? Because this free LAV sucks! |
Syther Shadows
The Unholy Legion of Darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY
77
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Posted - 2013.05.29 03:52:00 -
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if lav's where not here
no one would EVER consider it worth specking into vehicle
and vise verse with AV
with lav's in the game they allow players to see the threat get av nads use them all the time
and on the off chance a tank does come at least you have something (keep in mind people will cry that the tanks are to hard to kill as all they have ever known in FREE LAV'S) |
Abron Garr
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
317
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Posted - 2013.05.29 13:54:00 -
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Tectonic Fusion wrote:Abron Garr wrote:Byozuma Kegawa wrote:Because there are still new players and new players get free dropsuits, so why not free LAVs? Why not free tanks? Why not free Dropships? Why not free orbitals? Because this free LAV sucks!
Actually, we had other free vehicles during beta 1.0. People defended them like people are defending the free LAVS today. Thankfully, they were removed because many of the matches turned into dropship squish and tower missile spam.
Syther Shadows wrote:if lav's where not here
no one would EVER consider it worth specking into vehicle
and vise verse with AV
with lav's in the game they allow players to see the threat get av nads use them all the time
and on the off chance a tank does come at least you have something (keep in mind people will cry that the tanks are to hard to kill as all they have ever known in FREE LAV'S)
Nothing prevented people from skilling up in vehicles after the other free vehicles were removed. |
Rynoceros
One-Armed Bandits Unclaimed.
84
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Posted - 2013.05.29 13:58:00 -
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Just to keep heavies in the game. A heavy at the MCC could take a full 8 minutes of nonstop running to get to the farthest objective. |
Abron Garr
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
317
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Posted - 2013.05.29 13:59:00 -
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Rynoceros wrote:Just to keep heavies in the game. A heavy at the MCC could take a full 8 minutes of nonstop running to get to the farthest objective.
More reason for people skill up in LAVs and Dropships (lol). |
Anarchide
Greedy Bastards
34
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Posted - 2013.05.29 14:04:00 -
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Why? Because Genolution thinks it's a tool of choice to collect Biomass, that's why! |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
3130
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Posted - 2013.05.29 14:21:00 -
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Been a few days since I last played, but when I did, AV grenades weren't all that great against LAVs.
Swarms, on the other hand...
Skill into Swarm Launchers or Forge Guns and watch them melt. Free or not, LAVs are easy targets even for the free Swarm fitting - IF you back it with the right passives. If the enemy has tanks, bring a real AV fitting, or call in AV guys as backup. For LAVs, running a free Swarm loadout with a 3-shot clip and a couple of reloads can wipe out the spam in no time, especially if you trained Proficiency for the damage boost. Adding a Nanohive makes it even better. |
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