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Makyre Vahliha
The White Hawk Knights
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Posted - 2013.05.26 23:16:00 -
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Not that I mind, but it seems that whoever joins EVE corps or form one that recruits like crazy with spamming advertisements. I'm in a good corp with an alliance and we've been recruiting a lot of players and all been supportive donating as much as we can, but the donations are still below the requirements to get the clone packs for the PC. After the first clone packs, then what? I suppose we would have to donate all over again for that much. But I think if the ISK requirement was lowered, it would give other corps a fighting chance to try out the PC. I enjoy playing in the normal matches, but I'm anxious to try out PC. And no, I'm not gonna leave my corp for another just to get in PC. What can we do to participate in the PC equally?
I am in new Eden. I am adapting. I am asking. Thank you. |
DJINN Marauder
Purgatorium of the Damned League of Infamy
689
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Posted - 2013.05.26 23:18:00 -
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You need at least 160mill in the corp (for clone packs) to actually take a district if it has 300 clones (providing you guys actually win the matches)
To participate in PC... I think you're just gunna have to wait till they open more planets and districts... Or if you do get enough money you can go for it. |
Makyre Vahliha
The White Hawk Knights
118
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Posted - 2013.05.26 23:22:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:You need at least 160mill in the corp (for clone packs) to actually take a district if it has 300 clones (providing you guys actually win the matches)
To participate in PC... I think you're just gunna have to wait till they open more planets and districts... Or if you do get enough money you can go for it.
I thought the requirement was 80 mil. |
Konohamaru Sarutobi
Ahrendee Mercenaries
256
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Posted - 2013.05.26 23:22:00 -
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Makyre Vahliha wrote:Not that I mind, but it seems that whoever joins EVE corps or form one that recruits like crazy with spamming advertisements. I'm in a good corp with an alliance and we've been recruiting a lot of players and all been supportive donating as much as we can, but the donations are still below the requirements to get the clone packs for the PC. After the first clone packs, then what? I suppose we would have to donate all over again for that much. But I think if the ISK requirement was lowered, it would give other corps a fighting chance to try out the PC. I enjoy playing in the normal matches, but I'm anxious to try out PC. And no, I'm not gonna leave my corp for another just to get in PC. What can we do to participate in the PC equally?
I am in new Eden. I am adapting. I am asking. Thank you.
"And no, I'm not gonna leave my corp for another just to get in PC"
If I could give you a million of likes, I would do it. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1362
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Posted - 2013.05.26 23:22:00 -
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If you want to fight in PC, just merc yourselves out as ringers. Then once you have the money, attack! |
DJINN Marauder
Purgatorium of the Damned League of Infamy
689
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Posted - 2013.05.26 23:24:00 -
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Makyre Vahliha wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:You need at least 160mill in the corp (for clone packs) to actually take a district if it has 300 clones (providing you guys actually win the matches)
To participate in PC... I think you're just gunna have to wait till they open more planets and districts... Or if you do get enough money you can go for it. I thought the requirement was 80 mil. 80 mill for 1 clone pack. If you win a PC game, it will take out 150 clones the district has. However if the district has a total of 300 clones, you will have to buy another clone pack(80 mil) to attack again to take care of the remaining 150 clones. |
Byozuma Kegawa
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
70
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Posted - 2013.05.26 23:25:00 -
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Yeah, it's not so much about larger corps (though having alot of members is better) than it is about having beneficent members willing to fund the corp wallet (and not rob it blind later). You could be smell like freshly cleaned towels but as long as you are worth hundreds of millions of ISK your chances in Planetary Conquest are good. Though... winning is another thing altogether, and don't forget about the friendly fire. |
Makyre Vahliha
The White Hawk Knights
118
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Posted - 2013.05.26 23:27:00 -
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Konohamaru Sarutobi wrote:Makyre Vahliha wrote:Not that I mind, but it seems that whoever joins EVE corps or form one that recruits like crazy with spamming advertisements. I'm in a good corp with an alliance and we've been recruiting a lot of players and all been supportive donating as much as we can, but the donations are still below the requirements to get the clone packs for the PC. After the first clone packs, then what? I suppose we would have to donate all over again for that much. But I think if the ISK requirement was lowered, it would give other corps a fighting chance to try out the PC. I enjoy playing in the normal matches, but I'm anxious to try out PC. And no, I'm not gonna leave my corp for another just to get in PC. What can we do to participate in the PC equally?
I am in new Eden. I am adapting. I am asking. Thank you. "And no, I'm not gonna leave my corp for another just to get in PC" If I could give you a million of likes, I would do it.
You would be surprised, but I'm not that kind of guy to infiltrate another corp. Griefing people is not my thing. |
Makyre Vahliha
The White Hawk Knights
118
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Posted - 2013.05.26 23:29:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:Makyre Vahliha wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:You need at least 160mill in the corp (for clone packs) to actually take a district if it has 300 clones (providing you guys actually win the matches)
To participate in PC... I think you're just gunna have to wait till they open more planets and districts... Or if you do get enough money you can go for it. I thought the requirement was 80 mil. 80 mill for 1 clone pack. If you win a PC game, it will take out 150 clones the district has. However if the district has a total of 300 clones, you will have to buy another clone pack(80 mil) to attack again to take care of the remaining 150 clones.
That would take MONTHS for most corps at this point to collect that much, especially since most blueberries are not willing to part with their ISKs when it comes to gears and supplies. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
1851
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Posted - 2013.05.26 23:32:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:Makyre Vahliha wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:You need at least 160mill in the corp (for clone packs) to actually take a district if it has 300 clones (providing you guys actually win the matches)
To participate in PC... I think you're just gunna have to wait till they open more planets and districts... Or if you do get enough money you can go for it. I thought the requirement was 80 mil. 80 mill for 1 clone pack. If you win a PC game, it will take out 150 clones the district has. However if the district has a total of 300 clones, you will have to buy another clone pack(80 mil) to attack again to take care of the remaining 150 clones. You probably want another 80 to 160 million on top of that in case you fail to win two matches in a row. And you'll want to have your entire team running proto gear too. PC is expensive. |
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Darkstar Militarius
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
12
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Posted - 2013.05.26 23:33:00 -
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Not trying to be an ass, but if your members are not willing to donate a few iskies, how would you expect them to dedicate time, often outside their normal times, to defending your districts and attacking others?
Seems to me if they are not loyal enough to help the corp with some iskies, they sure as hell aren't gonna dedicate time to the corp's PC efforts. |
Konohamaru Sarutobi
Ahrendee Mercenaries
257
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Posted - 2013.05.26 23:37:00 -
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Makyre Vahliha wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:Makyre Vahliha wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:You need at least 160mill in the corp (for clone packs) to actually take a district if it has 300 clones (providing you guys actually win the matches)
To participate in PC... I think you're just gunna have to wait till they open more planets and districts... Or if you do get enough money you can go for it. I thought the requirement was 80 mil. 80 mill for 1 clone pack. If you win a PC game, it will take out 150 clones the district has. However if the district has a total of 300 clones, you will have to buy another clone pack(80 mil) to attack again to take care of the remaining 150 clones. That would take MONTHS for most corps at this point to collect that much, especially since most blueberries are not willing to part with their ISKs when it comes to gears and supplies.
Maybe. It happened that when the game was launched, CCP reimbursement with ISK all the items that we (closed beta players) collected through the beta so we start with 200M ISK + (most of the people).
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Makyre Vahliha
The White Hawk Knights
118
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Posted - 2013.05.26 23:43:00 -
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Darkstar Militarius wrote:Not trying to be an ass, but if your members are not willing to donate a few iskies, how would you expect them to dedicate time, often outside their normal times, to defending your districts and attacking others?
Seems to me if they are not loyal enough to help the corp with some iskies, they sure as hell aren't gonna dedicate time to the corp's PC efforts.
That's not the point. Half of the blueberries were newberries fresh out of the academy and the corp we are in is new, about 10 days now. That's why I said that PC is not possible for new corps. |
ReGnUM Public Relations
Imperfects Public Relations
320
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Posted - 2013.05.26 23:46:00 -
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Don't **** me off |
XeroTheBigBoss
TeamPlayers EoN.
365
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Posted - 2013.05.26 23:48:00 -
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Dust isn't possible for new players either. |
Severance Pay
Purgatorium of the Damned League of Infamy
244
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Posted - 2013.05.26 23:49:00 -
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Makyre Vahliha wrote:Not that I mind, but it seems that whoever joins EVE corps or form one that recruits like crazy with spamming advertisements. I'm in a good corp with an alliance and we've been recruiting a lot of players and all been supportive donating as much as we can, but the donations are still below the requirements to get the clone packs for the PC. After the first clone packs, then what? I suppose we would have to donate all over again for that much. But I think if the ISK requirement was lowered, it would give other corps a fighting chance to try out the PC. I enjoy playing in the normal matches, but I'm anxious to try out PC. And no, I'm not gonna leave my corp for another just to get in PC. What can we do to participate in the PC equally?
I am in new Eden. I am adapting. I am asking. Thank you. It takes patience and time. A good way to gather money is holding weekly lotteries. Keeping members is a matter of consistent planning and stablizing communication.
1.Have your ceo plan a roadmap. Stick to that roadmap. 2.He should NOT assign any directors until you are ready to PC. 3.Make sure you get in an alliance with EVE support. 4.Encourage your members to skill up and save money. 5.DO NOT let losing tear you a part. There will be tears, and no matter what you need to stay calm and focused on having fun. I know losing is not fun, but you are going to lose a lot. You may not even win your first 10 matches, but if you quit then you will never know what you are made of. |
Makyre Vahliha
The White Hawk Knights
119
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Posted - 2013.05.26 23:50:00 -
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Severance Pay wrote:Makyre Vahliha wrote:Not that I mind, but it seems that whoever joins EVE corps or form one that recruits like crazy with spamming advertisements. I'm in a good corp with an alliance and we've been recruiting a lot of players and all been supportive donating as much as we can, but the donations are still below the requirements to get the clone packs for the PC. After the first clone packs, then what? I suppose we would have to donate all over again for that much. But I think if the ISK requirement was lowered, it would give other corps a fighting chance to try out the PC. I enjoy playing in the normal matches, but I'm anxious to try out PC. And no, I'm not gonna leave my corp for another just to get in PC. What can we do to participate in the PC equally?
I am in new Eden. I am adapting. I am asking. Thank you. It takes patience and time. A good way to gather money is holding weekly lotteries. Keeping members is a matter of consistent planning and stablizing communication. 1.Have your ceo plan a roadmap. Stick to that roadmap. 2.He should NOT assign any directors until you are ready to PC. 3.Make sure you get in an alliance with EVE support. 4.Encourage your members to skill up and save money. 5.DO NOT let losing tear you a part. There will be tears, and no matter what you need to stay calm and focused on having fun. I know losing is not fun, but you are going to lose a lot. You may not even win your first 10 matches, but if you quit then you will never know what you are made of.
Much appreciated, thanks. I'll let my corp know about this. +1 |
The Real Drazar
Mercs Inc. ROFL BROS
16
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Posted - 2013.05.26 23:53:00 -
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once they let eve corp's transfer isk with dust side. isk wont be a problem anymore |
Patoman Radiant
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
117
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Posted - 2013.05.26 23:57:00 -
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that is true, is damned competitive with all dust players fighting over a fraction of the planets of one region. CCP needs to open up more regions and planets asap.
I predict in 1-2 weeks the whole map will be 100 blakenized by a few super powers. Any small independent corps will just be cobled up and envicted. |
XeroTheBigBoss
TeamPlayers EoN.
367
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Posted - 2013.05.26 23:59:00 -
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Patoman Radiant wrote:that is true, is damned competitive with all dust players fighting over a fraction of the planets of one region. CCP needs to open up more regions and planets asap.
I predict in 1-2 weeks the whole map will be 100% blakenized by a few super powers. Any small independent corps will just be gobbled up and evicted.
I honestly think they want people to fight over stuff. They are testing it. Even though the game is "commercial" released they are still using Beta strategies it seems. I feel once CCP is comfortable with it's progress than they will open up more districts, land, planets, ect. |
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Makyre Vahliha
The White Hawk Knights
119
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Posted - 2013.05.27 00:07:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Patoman Radiant wrote:that is true, is damned competitive with all dust players fighting over a fraction of the planets of one region. CCP needs to open up more regions and planets asap.
I predict in 1-2 weeks the whole map will be 100% blakenized by a few super powers. Any small independent corps will just be gobbled up and evicted. I honestly think they want people to fight over stuff. They are testing it. Even though the game is "commercial" released they are still using Beta strategies it seems. I feel once CCP is comfortable with it's progress than they will open up more districts, land, planets, ect.
What about the ones already in possession of the districts? Won't they try to take over the other ones since they already have the ISKs ready? |
Kay High
The Lions Guard
101
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Posted - 2013.05.27 00:16:00 -
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Makyre Vahliha wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Patoman Radiant wrote:that is true, is damned competitive with all dust players fighting over a fraction of the planets of one region. CCP needs to open up more regions and planets asap.
I predict in 1-2 weeks the whole map will be 100% blakenized by a few super powers. Any small independent corps will just be gobbled up and evicted. I honestly think they want people to fight over stuff. They are testing it. Even though the game is "commercial" released they are still using Beta strategies it seems. I feel once CCP is comfortable with it's progress than they will open up more districts, land, planets, ect. What about the ones already in possession of the districts? Won't they try to take over the other ones since they already have the ISKs ready?
They might but there comes a point when they will have too much land and not enough defenders. In time (not soon TM) there will be enough to go around. |
XeroTheBigBoss
TeamPlayers EoN.
367
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Posted - 2013.05.27 00:16:00 -
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Makyre Vahliha wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Patoman Radiant wrote:that is true, is damned competitive with all dust players fighting over a fraction of the planets of one region. CCP needs to open up more regions and planets asap.
I predict in 1-2 weeks the whole map will be 100% blakenized by a few super powers. Any small independent corps will just be gobbled up and evicted. I honestly think they want people to fight over stuff. They are testing it. Even though the game is "commercial" released they are still using Beta strategies it seems. I feel once CCP is comfortable with it's progress than they will open up more districts, land, planets, ect. What about the ones already in possession of the districts? Won't they try to take over the other ones since they already have the ISKs ready?
Yeah, they want people to fight over stuff so they can get a feel for what it would be like when they have a lot more territories. |
ReGnYuM
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
31
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Posted - 2013.05.27 00:23:00 -
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PC is not for new Corps. PC is in essence the End Game of Dust 514. Right now PC are the most competitive games we have, and they need to stay that way. Your Corp is 10 days old, hardly ready for FW let alone PC. Stop crying on the forums and start Grinding ISK.
Furthermore to all players who want CCP to open up more land, its called planetary conquest and not planetary farm fest. You want that 8mill a day district then you're going to have to fight for it.
However... Imperfects are always selling districts at fair prices. |
Darkstar Militarius
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
12
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Posted - 2013.05.27 02:32:00 -
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Makyre Vahliha wrote:Darkstar Militarius wrote:Not trying to be an ass, but if your members are not willing to donate a few iskies, how would you expect them to dedicate time, often outside their normal times, to defending your districts and attacking others?
Seems to me if they are not loyal enough to help the corp with some iskies, they sure as hell aren't gonna dedicate time to the corp's PC efforts. That's not the point. Half of the blueberries were newberries fresh out of the academy and the corp we are in is new, about 10 days now. That's why I said that PC is not possible for new corps.
Well, it kinda *is* the point. PC, as pointed out, is pretty much the equivalent to an "endgame" in other games, IE. it is and is meant to be the hardest content atm. You cannot go into any other MMO and walk in to the Endgame raids or whatever there is for them immediately, can you? It is pretty much the same here.
In short, No, PC is not for new players and corps, and it was not meant to be, ever. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
1853
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Posted - 2013.05.27 02:56:00 -
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Kay High wrote:Makyre Vahliha wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Patoman Radiant wrote:that is true, is damned competitive with all dust players fighting over a fraction of the planets of one region. CCP needs to open up more regions and planets asap.
I predict in 1-2 weeks the whole map will be 100% blakenized by a few super powers. Any small independent corps will just be gobbled up and evicted. I honestly think they want people to fight over stuff. They are testing it. Even though the game is "commercial" released they are still using Beta strategies it seems. I feel once CCP is comfortable with it's progress than they will open up more districts, land, planets, ect. What about the ones already in possession of the districts? Won't they try to take over the other ones since they already have the ISKs ready? They might but there comes a point when they will have too much land and not enough defenders. In time (not soon TM) there will be enough to go around. Well, if your not in a gateway system to another sector, your going to be taken heavy clone losses, expect to see established corps fighting it outs at the outskirts before moving onto other systems, that leaves the newcomers to PC a chance to grab the inner districts. |
GOTCHA SUCKER
killer taxi company
10
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Posted - 2013.05.27 03:11:00 -
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PC was an EASY way for CCP to get back ALL that isk they just gave everyone. Forcing you broke tards to buy aur. Like taking candy from a baby. I can only sit here and wonder how much isk has been lost in PC. |
Mithridates VI
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
1688
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Posted - 2013.05.27 03:34:00 -
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If you want your corp to remain together, you are going to need to rely on diplomacy to get land. Form an alliance with another corporation or arrange to buy land.
Your corp is basically the equivalent of a 35 man group of dudes sitting in any other conquest-heavy scenario, ancient Rome, etc, going "How do we take over a country?" You join up with the people who are capable of doing that. |
STYLIE77
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
64
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Posted - 2013.05.27 15:56:00 -
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Patoman Radiant wrote:To the topic maker that is true, is damned competitive with all dust players fighting over a fraction of the planets of one region. CCP needs to open up more regions and planets asap.
I predict in 1-2 weeks the whole map will be 100% blakenized by a few super powers. Any small independent corps will just be gobbled up and evicted.
Yup, there is no doubt that only a handful of groups will control Molden Heath with in a fortnight and of course they will need to open up another region in the opposite faction of Minmatar.
My money is on Amarr, as their l0eadership is more interesting and can push the storyline a bit easier than Caldari IMO.
Dropping clone pack purchase price to 40 mill would bring more corps into the fray as well.
If CCP wants to make some money they need PC to be more accessible. More districts and a lower price means the big alliances will over reach and will not be able to defend everything.
That will open up opportunities for smaller corps if they make the Clone Packs cheap enough for 20-30 guys to buy 2-3 a week from pub stomping.
PC is the keystone to Dust 514... the main reason the majority of populace is here. Allowing it to be dominated by a minority is the failure of Eve online and they need not make that same mistake in Dust 514.
More districts, cheaper clones = more fights
Hell... Molden Heath is even shaped like a doughnut for Pete's sake...
Down with the Doughnuts!!! |
Marston VC
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
259
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Posted - 2013.05.27 15:57:00 -
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Makyre Vahliha wrote:Not that I mind, but it seems that whoever joins EVE corps or form one that recruits like crazy with spamming advertisements. I'm in a good corp with an alliance and we've been recruiting a lot of players and all been supportive donating as much as we can, but the donations are still below the requirements to get the clone packs for the PC. After the first clone packs, then what? I suppose we would have to donate all over again for that much. But I think if the ISK requirement was lowered, it would give other corps a fighting chance to try out the PC. I enjoy playing in the normal matches, but I'm anxious to try out PC. And no, I'm not gonna leave my corp for another just to get in PC. What can we do to participate in the PC equally?
I am in new Eden. I am adapting. I am asking. Thank you.
Well..... Why should a new corp be able to take land??? I don't understand the problem here, if a new person cant get proto gear day 1 does that mean the games unfair?? if a new corp cant take a district week 1, does that make it unfair?? simple as that. |
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