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Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES
Eternal Syndicate
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Posted - 2013.05.26 03:36:00 -
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I find it annoying and foolish. i can verbally order my squad to do something, but cant get them the points they deserve. range on an order that everyone can hear? stupid |
Anticitizen2501
ZionTCD
Unclaimed.
85
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Posted - 2013.05.26 03:45:00 -
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That's exactly it! So annoying.
CCP, please fix this! |
Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES
Eternal Syndicate
106
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Posted - 2013.05.26 06:06:00 -
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bump. want some more squad leaders opinions. |
Kaze Eyrou
ROGUE SPADES
EoN.
246
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Posted - 2013.05.26 06:09:00 -
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Yes, please fix this. |
Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
97
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Posted - 2013.05.26 06:13:00 -
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I agree, this was a really stupid decision. |
ALMIGHTY STATIUS
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.26 06:24:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:I agree, this was a really stupid decision.
In breaking news, Spkr does something besides ***** about getting stepped on by more talented players while claiming that they have "aimbots" and "lagswitches." |
General Erick
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.05.26 07:37:00 -
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+1 to OP |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
500
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Posted - 2013.05.26 07:42:00 -
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to force teamwork by making you have to be in shotgun range to everyone in your squad to give a squad order. |
Yeva Kalsani
Reckoners
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Posted - 2013.05.26 07:50:00 -
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What range limit? 
It's just very finnicky at long range to properly place it, it used to be a lot easier in Chromosome; but it still works. Unless you're talking about something else. |
Skywalker83
GamersForChrist
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Posted - 2013.05.26 08:16:00 -
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I agree with this I have the same problem whether or not it was intentional I don't know but it is very annoying. Also I have trouble sometimes activating orders through walls and through terrain like if a mountain is between me and my squad mate.
+1 OP |
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Repe Susi
Rautaleijona
Gentlemen's Agreement
440
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Posted - 2013.05.26 08:22:00 -
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+1
And what's with placing orders via map?
I think I have succeeded once in Uprising.
Or is it disabled altogether and I'm just hallucinating? |
Flint Beastgood III
GunFall Mobilization
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Posted - 2013.05.26 08:37:00 -
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Repe Susi wrote:+1
And what's with placing orders via map?
I think I have succeeded once in Uprising.
Or is it disabled altogether and I'm just hallucinating?
The only order u can give via the map now is to defend yourself.
+1 OP |
Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens
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Posted - 2013.05.26 08:42:00 -
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Because it is a game balance issue. They didn't want you saying "defend this" and just everyone in the squad getting the 20% bonus. Imagine 6 people in 2 Tanks if they were both getting the 20% bonus and the Squad Leader was getting Commission points from both.
Be well. |
Kaze Eyrou
ROGUE SPADES
EoN.
247
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Posted - 2013.05.26 09:17:00 -
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Joseph Ridgeson wrote:Because it is a game balance issue. They didn't want you saying "defend this" and just everyone in the squad getting the 20% bonus. Imagine 6 people in 2 Tanks if they were both getting the 20% bonus and the Squad Leader was getting Commission points from both.
Be well.
Oh, now I finally see what you mean.
OP is not talking about reward range. OP is talking about a new limit when issuing a squad order.
Have you been squad lead in Chromosome and put a defend order on someone no matter how far away they were?
Now have you tried this in the Uprising build?
Anyways, this also may be a bug and we may have to bring this up in the Technical Support/Bug section as well. |
Allah's Snackbar
Forty-Nine Fedayeen
Minmatar Republic
42
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Posted - 2013.05.26 09:24:00 -
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Bad game design is bad game design.
It doesn't make sense on any level. |
Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES
Eternal Syndicate
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Posted - 2013.05.26 13:24:00 -
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I figured everyone having this issue would be able to come to the same logical conclusion. i did get advice about being in shotgun range though.
Quote:OP is not talking about reward range. OP is talking about a new limit when issuing a squad order.
This is what i am talking about. If my squad mates can hear me give an order, it stands to reason that I should be able to get them points for carrying out the said order.
Example: Capture E, sorry guys i cant get you points because i am defending D. You are to far away to receive orders even though i just issued them and you heard them. |
Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES
Eternal Syndicate
132
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Posted - 2013.05.26 20:50:00 -
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bump. wish a dev would provide some insight. i dont think anyone asked to have our orders nerfed. maybe its a bug. who knows? |
Repe Susi
Rautaleijona
Gentlemen's Agreement
446
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Posted - 2013.05.29 10:52:00 -
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BIG BUMP BIG BUMP.
This is ridiculous. We need to be able to set squad orders regardless of range. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
2454
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Posted - 2013.05.29 11:00:00 -
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I think this is to discourage players from "boosting" within the confines of their MCC as they camp in relative safety. Pussies. |
PonyClause Rex
TRAMADOL KNIGHTS
26
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Posted - 2013.05.29 11:03:00 -
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Sounds like they are encouraging squads to stick together, so it at least makes sense on one level |
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Dale Templar
Regime Of Shadow Marines
Alpha Wolf Pack
15
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Posted - 2013.05.29 11:33:00 -
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Trying to place a capture order on a Null Cannon is the most incredibly hard thing in the world unless you try using the map, and even then, you'll be replacing that order 6 or 7 times until it actually shows up, and if you wanna do it using the Radial Menu, you better be damn sure you're within hacking distance of that ish.
I think the Radial Dial is alright, but there are some glitches, I use it in the Gunner Seat of a tank to mark targets, or to mark snipers for my snipers, and it succeed pretty well there, sometimes it can see what I can't, but it does need fixing, it can glitch out like a mofo. |
CRAZYHORSE ONE EIGHT
CowTek
IT Infotech
22
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Posted - 2013.05.29 12:13:00 -
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https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=79659
It's been over a week and still no reply from the devs.
Time to keep bumping this thread in GD.
If we get to five pages maybe someone from CCP will actually read it. |
KatanaPT
Tech Guard
General Tso's Alliance
140
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Posted - 2013.05.29 12:21:00 -
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+1
Squad orders have been broken since uprising, being a squad leader sometimes leads to your premature death. |
KOBLAKA1
Opus Arcana
Orion Empire
3
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Posted - 2013.05.29 17:49:00 -
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+1 make no sense since we have voice comma.
To those that defend this by saying it keeps squads together: squads can be broken into fire teams in order to accomplish multiple objectives at once, there fore if my team is defending A I should ne able to place a defend order on E if my other team is all the way over there. This is crucial for obtaining OBs. |
IMPAIRS YOUR ABILITY
GoonFeet
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Posted - 2013.05.29 17:52:00 -
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Try a weapon with a longer range, it is correlated to the range of the equipped weapon. Sucks when you have HMG/SMG combo. |
Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES
Eternal Syndicate
158
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Posted - 2013.05.29 18:04:00 -
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IMPAIRS YOUR ABILITY wrote:Try a weapon with a longer range, it is correlated to the range of the equipped weapon. Sucks when you have HMG/SMG combo.
I dont think so. my forge gun can shoot farther than my orders can be given.
Even if it were the case my squad can hear me anywhere on the map. Why wouldnt they be able to receive orders? They can take an objective I've designated but not get the 20% bonus they are supposed to.
Please fix it or at the very least give a reason behind it. Right now we are just using pretend orders that people have no waypoint to. dumb. |
SuperKing BigNuts
Contract Hunters
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Posted - 2013.05.29 18:18:00 -
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scoped sniper zoom allows you to assign orders from an increased range... i snipe a LOT, try to issue an order and get told it fails... scope in and issue it again and it works.
i dont think this is an 'intentional' issue, but a hiccup caused somewhere. i know that with an smg out you can get the order-reticle to pop up on a target at long ranges, but as soon as you attempt to asign the order it fails, but if you scope in with the sniper rifle itll work at the same range, so its not likely that it was a designed cutoff range but more of an 'hitbox' style issue where your order missed the mark even though it said you were aiming at your intended target. |
StubbyDucky
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
23
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Posted - 2013.05.29 18:18:00 -
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As a squad leader we can call Precision Strikes down onto an Alien planet from gigantic spaceships but we can't give a squad command to a object that is across the map, humm?
Oh yeah wait!
Broken Game 514 
This ^ and the Devs are more worried about changing Foxfours name to worry about fixing this broken game. |
Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES
Eternal Syndicate
159
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Posted - 2013.05.29 18:24:00 -
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SuperKing BigNuts wrote:scoped sniper zoom allows you to assign orders from an increased range... i snipe a LOT, try to issue an order and get told it fails... scope in and issue it again and it works.
i dont think this is an 'intentional' issue, but a hiccup caused somewhere. i know that with an smg out you can get the order-reticle to pop up on a target at long ranges, but as soon as you attempt to asign the order it fails, but if you scope in with the sniper rifle itll work at the same range, so its not likely that it was a designed cutoff range but more of an 'hitbox' style issue where your order missed the mark even though it said you were aiming at your intended target.
this doesnt cut it for me. i participate in my battles. i wont be reduced to a coward sniper. |
WhiskeyJack Otako
The Southern Legion
RISE of LEGION
56
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Posted - 2013.05.29 18:27:00 -
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+1 to removing the range limitation
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