DUST Search - [Feedback] Proximity mines are underpowered

Cosgar wrote:

Alaika Arbosa wrote:

Cosgar's Alt wrote:

Risk vs reward is askew with proximity mines. You go through the trouble of using an equipment slot for a pack, have to figure out where to lay them in hopes to destroy a vehicle and half the time you have to carry multiple tiers because you simply don't have enough to actively lay out. Why not increase the number of mines you can carry by 1~3 and max active by 2~6 per tier while making them non stackable per tier and actual stats to show how much damage they do?

Just making sure I understand you correctly.

The above highlighted passage is you suggesting that we not be able to take more than one slot of the same type of Prox Explosive right (Prox Explosive/Prox Explosive/Nanohive: No; Prox Explosive/F-49 Prox Explosive/Nanohive: Yes)?

If so, I think that would be a welcome tweak especially if the Max Active/Max Carried were both buffed slightly.

Exactly. Having 7, 9, 11 mines carried and something along the lines of 6, 8, 10 active can't be that game breaking, especially since it's AV anyway. Increase the blast radius so LAVs can't outrun them, turn the beeping off, and mines will be worth the SP.

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Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 205	Posted - 2013.06.04 13:41:00 - [31] - Quote Repe Susi wrote: Bump with another thread: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=82610&find=unread Hello, I am Repe Susi and I love proximity mines. I also wish they would be more useful, like Sinboto Simmons has outlined on the linked thread. Increasing A) damage B) Blast radius C) Time to Detonate. even one of these would help a lot. Thank you for your attention, now go forth my proxy-brothers and blow **** up. Nice to see people actually appreciate that,thank you
EnIgMa99 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 393	Posted - 2013.06.04 15:08:00 - [32] - Quote +1 to OP mines are trash
Text Grant Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 11	Posted - 2013.06.06 06:34:00 - [33] - Quote Bump
Laurent Cazaderon What The French CRONOS. 1517	Posted - 2013.06.06 08:09:00 - [34] - Quote i agree proxy mines are underwhelming. Never got to try the proto ones though. Still they should be very powerfull but have some activation delay so that they cant be used as "rush the tank, drop the mine, boom" equipment style.
Repe Susi Rautaleijona 477	Posted - 2013.06.07 11:04:00 - [35] - Quote Do the good thing CCP.
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. 308	Posted - 2013.06.07 12:26:00 - [36] - Quote Cosgar's Alt wrote: Risk vs reward is askew with proximity mines. You go through the trouble of using an equipment slot for a pack, have to figure out where to lay them in hopes to destroy a vehicle and half the time you have to carry multiple tiers because you simply don't have enough to actively lay out. Why not increase the number of mines you can carry by 1~3 and max active by 2~6 per tier while making them non stackable per tier and actual stats to show how much damage they do? Just making sure I understand you correctly. The above highlighted passage is you suggesting that we not be able to take more than one slot of the same type of Prox Explosive right (Prox Explosive/Prox Explosive/Nanohive: No; Prox Explosive/F-49 Prox Explosive/Nanohive: Yes)? If so, I think that would be a welcome tweak especially if the Max Active/Max Carried were both buffed slightly.
THX- 138 Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 2	Posted - 2013.06.07 22:25:00 - [37] - Quote Bump
Charlotte O'Dell Molon Labe. League of Infamy 409	Posted - 2013.06.08 01:18:00 - [38] - Quote Nerf MLT lavs
Otoky DIOS EX. 124	Posted - 2013.06.08 10:14:00 - [39] - Quote Bump
Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 1226	Posted - 2013.06.08 13:43:00 - [40] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: Cosgar's Alt wrote: Risk vs reward is askew with proximity mines. You go through the trouble of using an equipment slot for a pack, have to figure out where to lay them in hopes to destroy a vehicle and half the time you have to carry multiple tiers because you simply don't have enough to actively lay out. Why not increase the number of mines you can carry by 1~3 and max active by 2~6 per tier while making them non stackable per tier and actual stats to show how much damage they do? Just making sure I understand you correctly. The above highlighted passage is you suggesting that we not be able to take more than one slot of the same type of Prox Explosive right (Prox Explosive/Prox Explosive/Nanohive: No; Prox Explosive/F-49 Prox Explosive/Nanohive: Yes)? If so, I think that would be a welcome tweak especially if the Max Active/Max Carried were both buffed slightly. Exactly. Having 7, 9, 11 mines carried and something along the lines of 6, 8, 10 active can't be that game breaking, especially since it's AV anyway. Increase the blast radius so LAVs can't outrun them, turn the beeping off, and mines will be worth the SP.

Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. 338	Posted - 2013.06.08 14:25:00 - [41] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: Cosgar's Alt wrote: Risk vs reward is askew with proximity mines. You go through the trouble of using an equipment slot for a pack, have to figure out where to lay them in hopes to destroy a vehicle and half the time you have to carry multiple tiers because you simply don't have enough to actively lay out. Why not increase the number of mines you can carry by 1~3 and max active by 2~6 per tier while making them non stackable per tier and actual stats to show how much damage they do? Just making sure I understand you correctly. The above highlighted passage is you suggesting that we not be able to take more than one slot of the same type of Prox Explosive right (Prox Explosive/Prox Explosive/Nanohive: No; Prox Explosive/F-49 Prox Explosive/Nanohive: Yes)? If so, I think that would be a welcome tweak especially if the Max Active/Max Carried were both buffed slightly. Exactly. Having 7, 9, 11 mines carried and something along the lines of 6, 8, 10 active can't be that game breaking, especially since it's AV anyway. Increase the blast radius so LAVs can't outrun them, turn the beeping off, and mines will be worth the SP. Yeah, I can agree with that. Though I think that if the beep is taken away, a vehicle module should be introduced which acts as an Active Scanner though for explosives. An Explosives Detector if you will. I also like the idea of having 24 mines spread around. Especially with no beep, everybody will spend that match on foot as infantry or in dropships.
Cyrius Li-Moody The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 139	Posted - 2013.06.10 05:01:00 - [42] - Quote Save my proxies! bumpbump
Valmar Shadereaver GUNNING HEAVY STYLE 18	Posted - 2013.06.10 20:00:00 - [43] - Quote proximity explosive's are meanth to be mine's so doing same damage as AV grenade's is kind of underpowerd its a mine not a smal grenade your throwing so i agree whit the OP +1
Repe Susi Rautaleijona 488	Posted - 2013.06.25 10:30:00 - [44] - Quote hey.
SponkSponkSponk The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION 38	Posted - 2013.06.25 11:45:00 - [45] - Quote I can get behind this.
KEROSIINI-TERO Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 489	Posted - 2013.06.25 17:13:00 - [46] - Quote Laurent Cazaderon wrote: i agree proxy mines are underwhelming. Never got to try the proto ones though. Still they should be very powerfull but have some activation delay so that they cant be used as "rush the tank, drop the mine, boom" equipment style. Currently it's not going that way. Reasons: The power of the mines are split among multiple ones. One dropped like that, right on detonation range won't do anything dramatic to the tank. On the other hand if you, an infantryman, drop a proxy which detonates immediately you're likely to get killed by the blast. So chances are about 50/50 you get only a single suicide proxy. I've been trying to use proxies in close combat, the best way is to get behind a tank on a road and mine the road where he's not looking and hoping he chooses that way (or if using that teamwork of ancient legends) he's forced to retreat that way by other AV.
Flamesea Shadow Company HQ 13	Posted - 2013.07.01 09:46:00 - [47] - Quote Just layed 12 proto proxy mines as a field... ( logi and carried three ) and watched as LAVs just fly several times trought it and no detonations.. well, one exploded but that LAV did not. :( Proxy hit detection is broken or ?
Repe Susi Rautaleijona Top Men. 533	Posted - 2013.07.29 06:06:00 - [48] - Quote HEY CCP
SponkSponkSponk The Southern Legion 120	Posted - 2013.07.29 06:26:00 - [49] - Quote I really want to drop prox mines that do at least as much damage as a packed AV grenade. Is that too much to ask?
Repe Susi Rautaleijona Top Men. 542	Posted - 2013.08.01 07:36:00 - [50] - Quote I really want to drop prox mines that DETONATE FASTER. They're near useless at the moment. CCP MINTCHIP CCP LOGIBRO CCP WOLFMAN CCP (yeah, keywords. I know they scan these. Right guys, right?)

ladwar Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 1018	Posted - 2013.08.01 08:35:00 - [51] - Quote hmm risk vs reward. there is no risk if you set them up when no one is around and use them when you switch to a different suit you really did risk all that much.
Repe Susi Rautaleijona Top Men. 576	Posted - 2013.08.14 12:06:00 - [52] - Quote Bumpage.
NoxMort3m D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 30	Posted - 2013.08.14 12:57:00 - [53] - Quote ya its nice when my squad mate drops all his proto mines , a lav hits them, i hit throw av nades , the seek misses on 2 of 3 and the lav gets away
SponkSponkSponk The Southern Legion 194	Posted - 2013.08.14 14:12:00 - [54] - Quote ladwar wrote: hmm risk vs reward. there is no risk if you set them up when no one is around and use them when you switch to a different suit you really did risk all that much. Time. I don't know if you've noticed but every minute you're faffing around laying prox mines in the hope that you get a vehicle kill is a minute you could be pushing another control point.
Repe Susi Rautaleijona Top Men. 661	Posted - 2013.09.10 05:56:00 - [55] - Quote Hey, we need changes to proximity mines.


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