Yeah bravo, high-five, slow clap. It must take major skill to sit in the driver seat.

yea. always fun to end up in a blueberry patch. none of us take that seriously of course. it's evident you didn't go up against anyone who knew what they were doing.

The reduced range of all other weapons created the tac epidemic... If they increase the range of other weapons we will see much less tac use.

It shouldn't take entire squads of AV to deal with anything when one person can operate a vehicle.

One guy running a Logistics LAV can effectively ruin a battle because they're so difficult to kill.

One guy running an HAV (who knows what the hell he is doing) can force an entire squad's worth of players to go AV and put the team at a massive disadvantage because now they suddenly are playing 10 against 15 infantry-wise (-6 from the AV squad and -1 from the HAV driver)

When it takes an entire squad to operate an HAV, I'll accept requiring an entire squad of AV. Until then, vehicles only upset the balance of teams in this game. Open world environment doesn't have that issue but when you have 16 v 16, it creates a giant gap in the power balance.

And honestly, it shouldn't take more than one round from my Proto AV gear to kill a Militia LAV. I put millions of SP into it, and heaps of ISK. You put nothing into yours. Why should you have an advantage?

if they MASSIIVELY reduce impact damage LAV become ...paper LAV's does that make any sense?

sitting LAV is EASY target

I have witnessed Forge guns shooting through moving lavs and av nades tracking but not damaging them...
Couple that with their speed and they can retreat, repair, repeat. But the logi lavs don't even need to retreat as they can tank like crazy.

I have no problem with them being tough... It's the insta kill of any suit at any speed. They need to MASSIVELY reduce the impact damage to reduce them back to a transport vehicle with the turret being the best offense it has.

Can damage mods be stacked towards the front or rear of the car? No? Then quit complaining. You're calling something CCP intended to be used a game-breaking mechanic. We're still limited to 7 vehicles per team, but there's no limit to the amount of TAC ARs that can be used per team. Maybe they should be put into the advanced sniper tier.

What do damage mods and tac ars have to do with anything... I have been hit for over 10,000 damage by a LAV... That is the wrong answer in a first person shooter. The turret or "shooter" part of the lav should be the threat.

What are you talking about... Reducing impact damage to dropsuits creates a paper LAV how? And I agree that a LAV sitting still is an easy target when did I say otherwise ?

I often roll in a tank with just two people, sometimes just two in the squad and end up doing quite well. I'm talking two orbs well.

You people are fcukin re tar did

Yeah, see that to me seems like a major imbalance. You'll never see two guys going AV an entire match and landing two orbitals. Not with all of that anti-infantry capability running around on the enemy team.

It seems a little ridiculous that a Tank can offset the balance to such an extreme, right down to removing enemy vehicles from play before they even land when using a Railgun. Then again, I've kept that from happening using a Railgun Installation.

This isn't to say Tanks should be nerfed, but their mechanics shouldn't allow for ROFLROLLING from such a small team. I look at tanks in two fashions: Long range, active tanking which can survive the first few shots and have to find cover to make repairs - and short range, passive tanking which can survive entire onslaughts of AV but at the cost of not being able to repair it very quickly.

Unfortunately, considering HAVs move faster than Scouts, this isn't the case. Most of the time they'll just slowly accelerate until they get into the Red-line and make a full recovery, or sit ontop of a -******* skyscraper- where even Orbital Strikes can't kill them.

And it's at most three guys out of the entire team.

Then again, if you applied a maximum ammo count on them.............................

Ammo count won't mean anything, anyway. As soon as we use it up, we'll recall it, then have it dropped right back on the field. I do that with dropsuits at a supply depot when it won't give me anymore ammo/grenades. What would prevent people from doing that? Oh yeah, having to purchase our ammo, which I'm sure everybody that doesn't tank would love to see implemented.

And you know what? We'll find ways around that too. Top Jovian powerplant plus the top NOS module on an armor tank = bye-bye everything.

I went 365-0 with Melee

With 150 clones?

Well that went right over your head.

OP
One of the many reasons this game sux.

OP
One of the many reasons this game sux.

OP
One of the many reasons this game sux.

The most skill intensive ships in Eve Online aren't good at everything, in fact, they can't even hit the smaller ships that aren't as skill intensive.

Sure, you should have the ability to defend yourself, but Tankers should not be the end-all to everything in the game. They need to have a definite counter that they are poor against, something that isn't currently available. Abusing game mechanics only compounds that.

hahahaha.

I have witnessed Forge guns shooting through moving lavs and av nades tracking but not damaging them...
Couple that with their speed and they can retreat, repair, repeat. But the logi lavs don't even need to retreat as they can tank like crazy.

I have no problem with them being tough... It's the insta kill of any suit at any speed. They need to MASSIVELY reduce the impact damage to reduce them back to a transport vehicle with the turret being the best offense it has.