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Nightbird Aeon
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2013.05.24 14:11:00 -
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So... playing the Ashland skirmish map (link here), and I was trying to get some red dot off the pipes over B. When.....
BOOM, run over by a LAV.
On the platform.
Next to B.
WTF?!?
Anyway, I respawned with some Packed AV grenades, and because of the tight quarters, the LAV was still trying to do a 3-point turn and get off the platform. I hid behind some boxes and threw 3 AV grenades..... thinking that I would get my revenge... and barely took the LAV down to half shields.
I was standing in a nanohive, so I had restocked grenades... and I tossed 2 more before the LAV got away. Still no "kaboom".
Where's the kaboom? There was supposed to be an earth-shattering kaboom?!?
Was this LAV really a HAV, dressed up for what passes for Halloween in New Eden? Because it sure had the HP of a HAV!
Now, for repping, restocking, or just rapid (armed) transport across large maps, I think LAVs are a great idea. But that's not what people are using them for.
People are using them to run others over, and with the HP buff, the threat of infantry with AV grenades is a non-issue.
If you were to reduce collision damage to 0, I'd bet you would see a 99.99% reduction in the number of LAVs called in. Just that, in and of itself, demonstrates the broken mechanic that is LAVs.
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Blammmo
Better Hide R Die
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
46
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Posted - 2013.05.24 14:16:00 -
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Nightbird Aeon wrote:So... playing the Ashland skirmish map ( link here), and I was trying to get some red dot off the pipes over B. When..... BOOM, run over by a LAV. On the platform. Next to B. WTF?!? Anyway, I respawned with some Packed AV grenades, and because of the tight quarters, the LAV was still trying to do a 3-point turn and get off the platform. I hid behind some boxes and threw 3 AV grenades..... thinking that I would get my revenge... and barely took the LAV down to half shields. I was standing in a nanohive, so I had restocked grenades... and I tossed 2 more before the LAV got away. Still no "kaboom". Where's the kaboom? There was supposed to be an earth-shattering kaboom?!?Was this LAV really a HAV, dressed up for what passes for Halloween in New Eden? Because it sure had the HP of a HAV! Now, for repping, restocking, or just rapid (armed) transport across large maps, I think LAVs are a great idea. But that's not what people are using them for. People are using them to run others over, and with the HP buff, the threat of infantry with AV grenades is a non-issue. If you were to reduce collision damage to 0, I'd bet you would see a 99.99% reduction in the number of LAVs called in. Just that, in and of itself, demonstrates the broken mechanic that is LAVs.
Lol, stick to cover and you won't get mowed down. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
3197
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Posted - 2013.05.24 14:18:00 -
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What people also tend not to mention is that LAVs are an awesome path because they unlock HAVs, so it gives you much more flexibility as a vehicle specialist. |
Knarf Black
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
828
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Posted - 2013.05.24 14:18:00 -
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I was having similar experiences; had to HTFU and dump the points I was saving for Flaylock Proficiency into Swarm Launchers. Now that I'm back in proper AV, I haven't been dumped into any LLAV Murder Taxi matches to test it out.  |
Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
77
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Posted - 2013.05.24 14:19:00 -
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Like the Valor guy said in MAG: Improvise. Adapt. Overcome.
95% of people that came to the forum wanted tanks nerfed. Now, you're reaping what you sew.
Spec into proper AV. |
Jason Pearson
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
1318
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Posted - 2013.05.24 14:24:00 -
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Well yeah.. they're like proto LAVs, get PROPER AV to deal with it. |
Den-tredje Baron
The Unholy Legion of Darkstar
DARKSTAR ARMY
72
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Posted - 2013.05.24 14:26:00 -
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Blammmo wrote:Nightbird Aeon wrote:So... playing the Ashland skirmish map ( link here), and I was trying to get some red dot off the pipes over B. When..... BOOM, run over by a LAV. On the platform. Next to B. WTF?!? Anyway, I respawned with some Packed AV grenades, and because of the tight quarters, the LAV was still trying to do a 3-point turn and get off the platform. I hid behind some boxes and threw 3 AV grenades..... thinking that I would get my revenge... and barely took the LAV down to half shields. I was standing in a nanohive, so I had restocked grenades... and I tossed 2 more before the LAV got away. Still no "kaboom". Where's the kaboom? There was supposed to be an earth-shattering kaboom?!?Was this LAV really a HAV, dressed up for what passes for Halloween in New Eden? Because it sure had the HP of a HAV! Now, for repping, restocking, or just rapid (armed) transport across large maps, I think LAVs are a great idea. But that's not what people are using them for. People are using them to run others over, and with the HP buff, the threat of infantry with AV grenades is a non-issue. If you were to reduce collision damage to 0, I'd bet you would see a 99.99% reduction in the number of LAVs called in. Just that, in and of itself, demonstrates the broken mechanic that is LAVs. Lol, stick to cover and you won't get mowed down.
WTF ?? ^^^are you playing this game ??
LAVs are getting spammed to do nothing else than move people down. and sticking to cover well wtf you can't take the bloddy point from cover can ya ??
Ambush is a pure LAv feast right now and as stated AVs HA no deal, Swarms HA shield LLAV laughs at you. Proxy mines don't do anything to any kind of lav anymore unless you've put down 8 and get teh bloddy lav to run over all of them.
Meanwhile HAVs still haven't gotten the love they need and as everybody is running around with AVs well the death rate of HAVs just rose. So thank you LAV buff great job there CCP.........
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StubbyDucky
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
1
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Posted - 2013.05.24 14:27:00 -
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Nightbird Aeon wrote:So... playing the Ashland skirmish map ( link here), and I was trying to get some red dot off the pipes over B. When..... BOOM, run over by a LAV. On the platform. Next to B. WTF?!? Anyway, I respawned with some Packed AV grenades, and because of the tight quarters, the LAV was still trying to do a 3-point turn and get off the platform. I hid behind some boxes and threw 3 AV grenades..... thinking that I would get my revenge... and barely took the LAV down to half shields. I was standing in a nanohive, so I had restocked grenades... and I tossed 2 more before the LAV got away. Still no "kaboom". Where's the kaboom? There was supposed to be an earth-shattering kaboom?!?Was this LAV really a HAV, dressed up for what passes for Halloween in New Eden? Because it sure had the HP of a HAV! Now, for repping, restocking, or just rapid (armed) transport across large maps, I think LAVs are a great idea. But that's not what people are using them for. People are using them to run others over, and with the HP buff, the threat of infantry with AV grenades is a non-issue. If you were to reduce collision damage to 0, I'd bet you would see a 99.99% reduction in the number of LAVs called in. Just that, in and of itself, demonstrates the broken mechanic that is LAVs.
LOL this was me! 
Hey just shoot the driver next time.
Logi LAV's are Death Taxi's drivers dream machine.
Don't worry, I am sure enough sissy la la Kitten Bear Proto TAC AR Mercs will cry enough to Mommy CCP and they will get nerfed.
But till Mercs like you are like bugs, Last thing through you mind when you hit my grill is your a$$. 
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Coleman Gray
GunFall Mobilization
Covert Intervention
294
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Posted - 2013.05.24 14:28:00 -
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Until we get Advance and Proto tanks, Logi LAV is the tankiest thing we got. Their cheap(ish) can actually take more of a beating than tanks at the moment, are much faster and easier to handle, and running people over is more satisfying than shooting them with a big gun.
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ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
485
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Posted - 2013.05.24 14:32:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:Well yeah.. they're like proto LAVs, get PROPER AV to deal with it.
^ and av nades less effective on shields should gone flux but those take skill to use.. whoops not an I win button. proper AV to take on proper LAV. |
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crazy6226
No-Mercy
Get in the Van.
13
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Posted - 2013.05.24 14:38:00 -
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I don't know why everyone complains so much about the logi-lav. My tank is useless so what the **** else am I going to drive. Running you over is just a benefit of my super tank. |
Hey Fatty
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
22
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Posted - 2013.05.24 14:40:00 -
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In the Logi-LAV's defense...Its bright yellow! Hard to miss a micro short bus. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S.
RISE of LEGION
1781
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Posted - 2013.05.24 14:41:00 -
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Ran over a Corp mate who was using hacked AV nades, didn't even take my saga past half shields with my hardeners on. Worked it out after the match that with skills, hardeners, and explosives reduced damage against shields he was only doing 30% damage to my shields. I'm actually kinda liking the new shield skill bonus. |
The Attorney General
ZionTCD
Unclaimed.
22
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Posted - 2013.05.24 14:46:00 -
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I tank in PC, where there is a reason to risk millions of isk in battle.
If I play in a pub, you can best believe that I am going murder cab.
Now, I may roll around in a pimped out methana, but that is only if I have a gunner.
If I don't have a gunner, the logi LAV is the best option for playing murder cab. Relatively cheap compared to a tank, durable, fun to drive, and bright yellow, it just makes my day running over protos.
I have zero SP in dropsuits or infantry weapons. Every single one of my 7.5 million SP is in vehicles. If you think I have to either run around in MLT fits so you can murder me, or I have to call in a tank so that you can AV grenade me when my blues leave me to die, then you have another thing coming. In fact, here it comes right now. Oh look, it is yellow.
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Rolf The Viking
Ill Omens
EoN.
13
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Posted - 2013.05.24 14:47:00 -
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Knarf Black wrote:I was having similar experiences; had to HTFU and dump the points I was saving for Flaylock Proficiency into Swarm Launchers. Now that I'm back in proper AV, I haven't been dumped into any LLAV Murder Taxi matches to test it out.
I have advanced swarms with damage mods and I can't make a dent in the LLAVs |
crazy6226
No-Mercy
Get in the Van.
13
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Posted - 2013.05.24 14:48:00 -
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Rolf The Viking wrote:Knarf Black wrote:I was having similar experiences; had to HTFU and dump the points I was saving for Flaylock Proficiency into Swarm Launchers. Now that I'm back in proper AV, I haven't been dumped into any LLAV Murder Taxi matches to test it out. I have advanced swarms with damage mods and I can't make a dent in the LLAVs
You make a dent but you don't one shot it. I don't know why everyone wants there AV stuff to one shot. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
487
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Posted - 2013.05.24 14:56:00 -
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crazy6226 wrote:Rolf The Viking wrote:Knarf Black wrote:I was having similar experiences; had to HTFU and dump the points I was saving for Flaylock Proficiency into Swarm Launchers. Now that I'm back in proper AV, I haven't been dumped into any LLAV Murder Taxi matches to test it out. I have advanced swarms with damage mods and I can't make a dent in the LLAVs You make a dent but you don't one shot it. I don't know why everyone wants there AV stuff to one shot.
because they view MLT SL to be the same as the Thales sniper but for vehicles so any sp over MLT should do over 10 times the full hitpoints of 2 full sp fitted HAVs, that's why.
btw which LLAV if its the shield one then LOL of course your doing like 45% of the normal damage because of fitting, skills and resistances which take more SP then your SL so your getting out classed. |
S0LlD SNAKE
PLAYSTATION4
53
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Posted - 2013.05.24 15:09:00 -
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i blow up a red lav limited ed today , whats up with that?
is it from some pack? |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
487
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Posted - 2013.05.24 15:10:00 -
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blood raiders, yes it is |
Daedric Lothar
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
451
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Posted - 2013.05.24 15:14:00 -
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I hope they nerf LAVs, just so that protostomping becomes even worse and blueberries qut from getting ROFL stomped.
LAVs are useful for breaking up a murder squad and stopping lazy protobears and for crushing teams that are so selfish that no one decides to bring a Uplink so everyone go running across the interstate. Good squads stay fairly close to cover each other.
Murder squads run in a tight pack and pump rounds into anything that moves.
LAV > Proto Murder Squads.
[Edit]: Anyone QQing about LAVs is a protobear who was mowing down newbies and got pissed because he got ran over before he could get a grenade into the blueberry spawn. |
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S0LlD SNAKE
PLAYSTATION4
53
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Posted - 2013.05.24 15:18:00 -
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i dont have a problem with LAV's , i love them , i dont use them tough
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Hey Fatty
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
22
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Posted - 2013.05.24 15:24:00 -
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I do when Im bored. I just use my freebie and cruise the map. If some poor unfortunate squad gets trapped between the wheel and my tire well along the way, its just a bonus. Frankly, when Im not cruising, im too busy trashing other LAVs with nades and just racking in the ISK/WPs. I dont see the issue of running with some decent AV grenades to clean the streets of these ruffians! :)
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Nightbird Aeon
Ahrendee Mercenaries
157
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Posted - 2013.05.24 20:47:00 -
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I am not saying we should change anything about LAVs or their stats, or boost/buff their HP.
Just remove impact damage. Let them be used as designed - nothing more, nothing less. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
4621
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Posted - 2013.05.24 20:52:00 -
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Flux Grenade + Plasma Cannon = Dead Caldari LLAV. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S.
RISE of LEGION
1785
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Posted - 2013.05.24 20:57:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Flux Grenade + Plasma Cannon = Dead Caldari LLAV.
I just thought of something, what effect does resistance have on flux grenades? Never thought about it before. |
CharCharOdell
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
201
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Posted - 2013.05.24 21:19:00 -
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so, basically, you want everyone specced into vehicles to be useless? How about no. You all told us tankers to adapt or die after the nerfs we got, so we did, and now you're dying so you cry NERF IT! again. I'm not suprised. Would you also like ur duvolle tac to kill a madrugar in 1 clip, too? |
CharCharOdell
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
201
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Posted - 2013.05.24 21:20:00 -
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Nightbird Aeon wrote:I am not saying we should change anything about LAVs or their stats, or boost/buff their HP.
Just remove impact damage. Let them be used as designed - nothing more, nothing less.
Have you ever heard of horse cavalry? its the same concept. The horse was as much a weapon as the revolver its rider carried. |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon Plus
395
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Posted - 2013.05.24 21:24:00 -
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CharCharOdell wrote:so, basically, you want everyone specced into vehicles to be useless? How about no. You all told us tankers to adapt or die after the nerfs we got, so we did, and now you're dying so you cry NERF IT! again. I'm not suprised. Would you also like ur duvolle tac to kill a madrugar in 1 clip, too?
Pretty much.
Free LAV spam is a pain, but jesus, don't nerf everything to hell even more. |
Skihids
The Tritan Industries
RISE of LEGION
1481
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Posted - 2013.05.24 21:37:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:CharCharOdell wrote:so, basically, you want everyone specced into vehicles to be useless? How about no. You all told us tankers to adapt or die after the nerfs we got, so we did, and now you're dying so you cry NERF IT! again. I'm not suprised. Would you also like ur duvolle tac to kill a madrugar in 1 clip, too? Pretty much. Free LAV spam is a pain, but jesus, don't nerf everything to hell even more.
It's pretty clear that they won't be happy until everybody specs Assault AR which most of us will be doing.
But in the meantime I will fuel my murder taxi with their tears. |
Kekklian Noobatronic
Goonfeet
57
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Posted - 2013.05.24 21:42:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Like the Valor guy said in MAG: Improvise. Adapt. Overcome.
95% of people that came to the forum wanted tanks nerfed. Now, you're reaping what you sew.
Spec into proper AV.
I've come across one of these. I had 3 complex damage mods, proto swarms, and swarm prof 3. I dumped a full clip - 5 shots - in to a LLAV. It took them and only went down to 20 shields. Then just drove off.
Your argument is invalid. |
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
1307
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Posted - 2013.05.24 21:43:00 -
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One person says.."stay behind cover". Great, maybe I can hack objectives with my telekinetic powers.
Another says, " av grenades are not effective against shields, use flux"..Great, maybe I can destroy it with a nova knife after I've depleted its shields.
Acknowledge that LAVs are out of control and there needs to be sone changes. Teaming up to destroy an HAV is one thing but having to take 2 or 3 people to ou t LAVs is another. I run proto AVs, and I have to restock sometimes. |
iceyburnz
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
477
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Posted - 2013.05.24 21:47:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:Well yeah.. they're like proto LAVs, get PROPER AV to deal with it.
Word.
Swarm Launchers are your friend. |
Ignoble Son
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
255
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Posted - 2013.05.24 21:47:00 -
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STOP THROING AV NADES AT SHIELD VEHICLES! How hard is that to understand? Use flux. Skill into it. The LLAVE is a damned adv vehicle, and you are throwing std variant AV nades, which weren't even designed to be used against the type of vehicle you're throwing them at. Come on man. Use ya head. Better yet, you really want to see one of them Caldari LLAVs go boom skill in to the plasma cannon (into proficiency) slap two damage mods on it, pack a little flux with you, skill into sub machine guns so you can run around with that plasma cannon, and then you'll have your solo kaboom against that Caldari LLAV. Why does everybody want something for free? I sware you guys, like the guy in the OP of this thread, are just as bad as the guys who run around spamming free LAVs.
Sh!t, it's not even as complicated as what I discribed above, pack some proto flux and a flaylock. Blam job done. This really isn't that hard people! |
Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
743
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Posted - 2013.05.24 21:56:00 -
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Kekklian Noobatronic wrote:I've come across one of these. I had 3 complex damage mods, proto swarms, and swarm prof 3. I dumped a full clip - 5 shots - in to a LLAV. It took them and only went down to 20 shields. Then just drove off.
Your argument is invalid.
Swarm... Shields... And you think what is wrong isn't _YOU_? |
SmileB4Death
Seraphim Auxiliaries
CRONOS.
85
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Posted - 2013.05.24 22:01:00 -
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MLT LAV's are a problem yes, as they require no investment.
But what about the guys who specced into LAV's? You put your sp into infantry, they put it into vehicles.
If you scream nerf and the devs listen to this sillyness, then your ruining the game for the LAV guys.
If people screamed nerf over your class, and it was nerfed, would you find this game fun?
Something needs to be done, but I'm fed up of nerfs.
I used to cry when I seen a laser beam, or run like a bat out of hell when I seen a fat dude.
Now a laser tickles and my TAR blitz's a heavy.
This game is losing variety with these nerf's..
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Kekklian Noobatronic
Goonfeet
57
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Posted - 2013.05.24 22:12:00 -
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Rasatsu wrote:Kekklian Noobatronic wrote:I've come across one of these. I had 3 complex damage mods, proto swarms, and swarm prof 3. I dumped a full clip - 5 shots - in to a LLAV. It took them and only went down to 20 shields. Then just drove off.
Your argument is invalid. Swarm... Shields... And you think what is wrong isn't _YOU_?
Even with the 70 vs shields, that's over 10k damage. It's a LAV. The L stands for Light. I've seen good, skilled HAV Gunlogi pilots fall to that. When a light vehicle can out tank a HAV, there's a problem.
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Ignoble Son
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
261
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Posted - 2013.05.24 23:02:00 -
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Alright, first, I'm just strait up going to call you a l lier. Then, I'm going to correct your math for you:
With the stats you gave, this is the damage out put of your swarms per clip against the Caldari LLAV:
5,929.308 (that's 1,976.436 per volley)
The strongest Caldari LLAV I can build has the following shIeld eHP:
5,267.751
That leaves plenty enough damage left over, after the shields are gone to completely destroy the armor. So once again I'm calling you a lier. I been nailed by proto swarms I know what kind of damage they do, and I can tell when they are proto by counting the number of impact explosion. Plus you're doing it wrong. Put down the swarms and AV nades and pick up a plasma canon and some flux. |
X-eon
Molon Labe.
League of Infamy
10
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Posted - 2013.05.24 23:38:00 -
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There's a variety of skills and weapons for a reason. Just because you decided to go full on assault and maybe skill into standard AV nades doesn't mean that's the only type of suit that's run in the game. You chose to fight infantry and suffer from the lack of anti vehicle skills that you did not spec into. Those that dedicated into AV have no problem with vehicles but suffer when going against infantry. Those that specc'ed evenly into both have a fair chance at survival when confronted by enemy infantry or vehicles. Don't whine because you didn't invest your skills wisely and Expect to instawin against anything. Those who chose their roles chose to accept the rewards and punishments of their elected skill path. |
Xocoyol Zaraoul
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
277
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Posted - 2013.05.24 23:57:00 -
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I want to point out that missiles, and thus swarms, have a crap-all efficiency versus shields and are ideal for anti-armor. it is about base 69% vs shields and 127% versus armor, or something close to that. |
Obodiah Garro
Tech Guard
General Tso's Alliance
11
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Posted - 2013.05.24 23:58:00 -
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I enjoy the free miltia LAVs for transport and for running over proto spamming foobs "lol good 1m suit you got there sir" as am grinding my free wheels over his face, but damn these logi LAVs are a pain in the ass when your AV grenades bounce of em like nothing. That said, aint war hell  |
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Konohamaru Sarutobi
Ahrendee Mercenaries
233
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Posted - 2013.05.25 00:03:00 -
[41] - Quote
Wait... this reminds me...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v53mhRXXT2g |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1340
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Posted - 2013.05.25 00:10:00 -
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I drove them enough last build to know that this isn't new. |
DJINN leukoplast
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
464
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Posted - 2013.05.25 00:10:00 -
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Knarf Black wrote:I was having similar experiences; had to HTFU and dump the points I was saving for Flaylock Proficiency into Swarm Launchers. Now that I'm back in proper AV, I haven't been dumped into any LLAV Murder Taxi matches to test it out.
Story of my life in this game.
Get run over my LAV, lose expensive suit.
Come back with good AV nades and proxys.
No LAV in sight.
But wait, look at all these infantry players swarming my position.
Would have been fine if I had my regular nades equipped.
Die.
Come back as anti-infantry.
Oh look, a bunch of LAV's showed up again.
Get run over.
Rinse and repeat.
What we really need is dual grenade slots, tired of having to forfeit my extremely useful locus nades to deal with annoying LAV's (which usually never present themselves when I actually have AV nades on me).
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Ignoble Son
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
261
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Posted - 2013.05.25 03:45:00 -
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DJINN leukoplast wrote:Knarf Black wrote:I was having similar experiences; had to HTFU and dump the points I was saving for Flaylock Proficiency into Swarm Launchers. Now that I'm back in proper AV, I haven't been dumped into any LLAV Murder Taxi matches to test it out. Story of my life in this game. Get run over my LAV, lose expensive suit. Come back with good AV nades and proxys. No LAV in sight. But wait, look at all these infantry players swarming my position. Would have been fine if I had my regular nades equipped. Die. Come back as anti-infantry. Oh look, a bunch of LAV's showed up again. Get run over. Rinse and repeat. What we really need is dual grenade slots, tired of having to forfeit my extremely useful locus nades to deal with annoying LAV's (which usually never present themselves when I actually have AV nades on me).
Hahahah, that warms my heart. |
axINVICTUSxa
Mannar Focused Warfare
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.05.25 03:52:00 -
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Guys, I'm thoroughly surprised at you all.
The LAV has ALWAYS been nerfed, and at last they finally brought it up to its proper level. This is, in fact, doing us all a favor by bringing back Vehicular warfare.
In the past, LAVs were destroyed in a couple AV grenade throws, or even one SWARM/Forge Hit.
There's no point in having Vehicles if they're too weak, right? And besides, it fits its purpose at last.
Light Armored Vehicle/Light Assault Vehicle's should remain the way they are.
Maybe, just maybe, lower the HP stats on the Onikuma/Baloch starter LAV's (Or remove them altogether) and raise the stats for the LAV's we paid $100 for (Ishukone Watch Saga) and other higher-end LAV's. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
493
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Posted - 2013.05.25 03:58:00 -
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DJINN leukoplast wrote:Knarf Black wrote:I was having similar experiences; had to HTFU and dump the points I was saving for Flaylock Proficiency into Swarm Launchers. Now that I'm back in proper AV, I haven't been dumped into any LLAV Murder Taxi matches to test it out. Story of my life in this game. Get run over my LAV, lose expensive suit. Come back with good AV nades and proxys. No LAV in sight. But wait, look at all these infantry players swarming my position. Would have been fine if I had my regular nades equipped. Die. Come back as anti-infantry. Oh look, a bunch of LAV's showed up again. Get run over. Rinse and repeat. What we really need is dual grenade slots, tired of having to forfeit my extremely useful locus nades to deal with annoying LAV's (which usually never present themselves when I actually have AV nades on me).
or just run with teammate that are speced AV and that won't a be a big issue. but it does make me happy when I get 20 kills in ambush because I had 5 good groups standing in the middle of the road asking to be ran over. |
Christas Corpus
Talon Strike Force LTD
Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.25 04:07:00 -
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Nightbird Aeon wrote:So... playing the Ashland skirmish map ( link here), and I was trying to get some red dot off the pipes over B. When..... BOOM, run over by a LAV. On the platform. Next to B. WTF?!? Anyway, I respawned with some Packed AV grenades, and because of the tight quarters, the LAV was still trying to do a 3-point turn and get off the platform. I hid behind some boxes and threw 3 AV grenades..... thinking that I would get my revenge... and barely took the LAV down to half shields. I was standing in a nanohive, so I had restocked grenades... and I tossed 2 more before the LAV got away. Still no "kaboom". Where's the kaboom? There was supposed to be an earth-shattering kaboom?!?Was this LAV really a HAV, dressed up for what passes for Halloween in New Eden? Because it sure had the HP of a HAV! Now, for repping, restocking, or just rapid (armed) transport across large maps, I think LAVs are a great idea. But that's not what people are using them for. People are using them to run others over, and with the HP buff, the threat of infantry with AV grenades is a non-issue. If you were to reduce collision damage to 0, I'd bet you would see a 99.99% reduction in the number of LAVs called in. Just that, in and of itself, demonstrates the broken mechanic that is LAVs.
+1 for the video |
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