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XeroTheBigBoss
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Posted - 2013.05.25 07:56:00 -
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Just another bump, sorry not trying to be annoying but It's a important problem to fix the whole aim issue in a shooter game. I will keep bumping here and there in hopes of finding a small montage of aim lag from any recorders out there. I realize it takes a few days to make one and some people already have said they will help or support the thread. Can just never have enough. The CCP developers wanna fix this but I guess they really don't know what I mean so wanna see video evidence of it. |
XeroTheBigBoss
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Posted - 2013.05.25 12:23:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Just another bump, sorry not trying to be annoying but It's a important problem to fix the whole aim issue in a shooter game. I will keep bumping here and there in hopes of finding a small montage of aim lag from any recorders out there. I realize it takes a few days to make one and some people already have said they will help or support the thread. Can just never have enough. The CCP developers wanna fix this but I guess they really don't know what I mean so wanna see video evidence of it.
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XeroTheBigBoss
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Posted - 2013.05.25 20:36:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Just another bump, sorry not trying to be annoying but It's a important problem to fix the whole aim issue in a shooter game. I will keep bumping here and there in hopes of finding a small montage of aim lag from any recorders out there. I realize it takes a few days to make one and some people already have said they will help or support the thread. Can just never have enough. The CCP developers wanna fix this but I guess they really don't know what I mean so wanna see video evidence of it.
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XeroTheBigBoss
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Posted - 2013.05.26 06:55:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Just another bump, sorry not trying to be annoying but It's a important problem to fix the whole aim issue in a shooter game. I will keep bumping here and there in hopes of finding a small montage of aim lag from any recorders out there. I realize it takes a few days to make one and some people already have said they will help or support the thread. Can just never have enough. The CCP developers wanna fix this but I guess they really don't know what I mean so wanna see video evidence of it.
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LAG MORE BRO
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2013.05.26 07:28:00 -
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I just don't understand this community...
Why has this thread not got more responses from the community confirming they will provide evidence to support Xero?
The framerate and input lag, particularly in PC matches, is ridiculous and needs to be fixed.
We have CCP here saying they will investigate, yet need help from the community, so if you have the capability, please provide your input. |
XeroTheBigBoss
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Posted - 2013.05.26 07:30:00 -
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LAG MORE BRO wrote:I just don't understand this community...
Why has this thread not got more responses from the community confirming they will provide evidence to support Xero?
The framerate and input lag, particularly in PC matches, is ridiculous and needs to be fixed.
We have CCP here saying they will investigate, yet need help from the community, so if you have the capability, please provide your input.
Ya I don't understand it. I won't give up though! I will eventually get help if I have to become so annoying people will help to shut me up! I am hoping CCP finds out what I am talking about if I can't find video proof of the aim. They seem to know nothing about the aim in this build. |
LAG MORE BRO
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.26 07:35:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:LAG MORE BRO wrote:I just don't understand this community...
Why has this thread not got more responses from the community confirming they will provide evidence to support Xero?
The framerate and input lag, particularly in PC matches, is ridiculous and needs to be fixed.
We have CCP here saying they will investigate, yet need help from the community, so if you have the capability, please provide your input. Ya I don't understand it. I won't give up though! I will eventually get help if I have to become so annoying people will help to shut me up! I am hoping CCP finds out what I am talking about if I can't find video proof of the aim. They seem to know nothing about the aim in this build.
Well yeah, I don't get CCP either. I mean, where are their in-game testers? Surely they're not just restricted to playing future builds on test servers... Surely they're on Tranquility too, playing the game as we do and reporting their findings.
A PC match across Regions is unplayable. I think you said it best Xero, we're not Ghostbusters... |
XeroTheBigBoss
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Posted - 2013.05.26 07:50:00 -
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LAG MORE BRO wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:LAG MORE BRO wrote:I just don't understand this community...
Why has this thread not got more responses from the community confirming they will provide evidence to support Xero?
The framerate and input lag, particularly in PC matches, is ridiculous and needs to be fixed.
We have CCP here saying they will investigate, yet need help from the community, so if you have the capability, please provide your input. Ya I don't understand it. I won't give up though! I will eventually get help if I have to become so annoying people will help to shut me up! I am hoping CCP finds out what I am talking about if I can't find video proof of the aim. They seem to know nothing about the aim in this build. Well yeah, I don't get CCP either. I mean, where are their in-game testers? Surely they're not just restricted to playing future builds on test servers... Surely they're on Tranquility too, playing the game as we do and reporting their findings. A PC match across Regions is unplayable. I think you said it best Xero, we're not Ghostbusters...
Nope. I am failing badly at being a ghostbuster....Have you tried shooting R4d4r's ghost? Nearly impossible, or any Scout for that fact. I have killed R4d4r maybe 3 times this whole build and HONESTLY all 3 times I was WAAAAAAY off spraying and praying. He can literally out run the crosshairs at slow sensitivity lol You have to use faster sensitivity just to have a CHANCE to hit him. Even if ya use fast sensitivity again you are back at the situation where you gotta predict how far his ghost is ahead of his avatar. Shoutout to R4d4r BTW you have improved your game much man. GL to your Corp BTW.
Even NyainSan Asn connection on top of the aim lag? Lol!
I can go on forever with situations but CCP are using us as game testers I suppose. It's kinda disheartening that the game is officially "commercial" release and there's such a catastrophic problem like this in a shooter. Why even have the aim feature if it doesn't work properly? Isn't the whole purpose of AIM supposed to be to accurately land bullets where I want to put them? What point is there to shoot bullets at a avatar if their hitbox is meters to the lefr or right of it? Isn't that just Spray and Pray? |
XeroTheBigBoss
TeamPlayers EoN.
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Posted - 2013.05.26 19:05:00 -
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Rei Shepard
Spectre II
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Posted - 2013.05.26 19:10:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:the 480p thing is just too weird. It works, Dust is a PS3 game. It shouldn't need to be played as a PS2 game to work.
I can only play this game in 576p but it fixes allot of problems like i posted in the actual thread about aiming feedback, i can go 20/0 in 576p, swap to 720p and go 0/2 because of the low Framerate and excessives smoothing this game uses to mimic high framerate when it doesnt have it.
I posted about it allot of times, all ignored by the devs. |
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XeroTheBigBoss
TeamPlayers EoN.
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Posted - 2013.05.26 19:21:00 -
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Rei Shepard wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:the 480p thing is just too weird. It works, Dust is a PS3 game. It shouldn't need to be played as a PS2 game to work. I can only play this game in 576p but it fixes allot of problems like i posted in the actual thread about aiming feedback, i can go 20/0 in 576p, swap to 720p and go 0/2 because of the low Framerate and excessives smoothing this game uses to mimic high framerate when it doesnt have it. I posted about it allot of times, all ignored by the devs.
My thread has 2 devs in it wanting to fix the problem but want video so they can zero in on the problem. |
WhiskeyJack Otako
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
51
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Posted - 2013.05.26 19:41:00 -
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My aim is working wonderfully now. All fixed. You just need to tinker with all the available settings until it suits you. |
XeroTheBigBoss
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Posted - 2013.05.26 19:52:00 -
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WhiskeyJack Otako wrote:My aim is working wonderfully now. All fixed. You just need to tinker with all the available settings until it suits you.
What do you use for yours? |
Spaceman-Rob
DUST University Ivy League
80
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Posted - 2013.05.26 20:22:00 -
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As far as dualshock is concerned, aiming seems fine, yes it's different from other games but it's not worth bitching about. I think the op has more likely got a problem with his set up. I think if we were to have a poll more people would say there wasn't a big issue than those who think there is.
I was one of those people that moaned at first but my situation was different, my hdmi ports are broken so I bought a cheapo component cable off eBay, for some weird reason this cable gave the impression of input lag when playing, so I purchased an official Sony ps3 cable and all is okay now, maybe your aiming issue is closer to home than you realise.
Even settings on your tv can have a negative affect on your gaming experience, so try tinkering with everything and see if it helps. |
XeroTheBigBoss
TeamPlayers EoN.
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Posted - 2013.05.26 20:24:00 -
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Spaceman-Rob wrote:As far as dualshock is concerned, aiming seems fine, yes it's different from other games but it's not worth bitching about. I think the op has more likely got a problem with his set up. I think if we were to have a poll more people would say there wasn't a big issue than those who think there is.
I was one of those people that moaned at first but my situation was different, my hdmi ports are broken so I bought a cheapo component cable off eBay, for some weird reason this cable gave the impression of input lag when playing, so I purchased an official Sony ps3 cable and all is okay now, maybe your aiming issue is closer to home than you realise.
Even settings on your tv can have a negative affect on your gaming experience, so try tinkering with everything and see if it helps.
I had no problems in Chromosome..... What has changed May6th? |
Spaceman-Rob
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.05.26 20:34:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Spaceman-Rob wrote:As far as dualshock is concerned, aiming seems fine, yes it's different from other games but it's not worth bitching about. I think the op has more likely got a problem with his set up. I think if we were to have a poll more people would say there wasn't a big issue than those who think there is.
I was one of those people that moaned at first but my situation was different, my hdmi ports are broken so I bought a cheapo component cable off eBay, for some weird reason this cable gave the impression of input lag when playing, so I purchased an official Sony ps3 cable and all is okay now, maybe your aiming issue is closer to home than you realise.
Even settings on your tv can have a negative affect on your gaming experience, so try tinkering with everything and see if it helps. I had no problems in Chromosome..... What has changed May6th?
Good question, But one I'm afraid I can't answer for you. |
MAD MAX 514
The dyst0pian Corporation
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Posted - 2013.05.26 20:44:00 -
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Aiming needs fixed period! The aiming assist kinda suck especially if you use a ps3 controller and not a mouse!
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XeroTheBigBoss
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Posted - 2013.05.26 23:52:00 -
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MAD MAX 514 wrote:Aiming needs fixed period! The aiming assist kinda suck especially if you use a ps3 controller and not a mouse!
Right now as a controller user you have 2 choices.
You can use fast sensitivity to decrease chance for Scouts to outrun your crosshairs. OR You can slow it down for slight better aim but won't be fast enough to hit the scouts true body. As I have stated in my other thread you have to shoot enemies ghost not their avatar on the screen. |
Catherine Archer
LUX AETERNA INT RUST415
21
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Posted - 2013.05.27 00:04:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote: You can use fast sensitivity to decrease chance for Scouts to outrun your crosshairs.
Dude, you're missing the point badly. Scout class SUPPOSE to outrun your crosshair. That's the system CCP is trying to implement. Not sure if they will succeed, but let them try.
Regarding the aiming: It's about low FPS and the game doing something to smoothen it when it's getting too busy. It's NOT about settings or hit detection, it's about lag in what you do / see in the game. I've never played Chromosome, but I've seen videos, and according to my understanding, CCP have buffed up a few things to get better picture and looks like they also nerfed the performance, of the game with it.
Everything works brilliantly if you turn off 720p in your PS3 display settings. Once you do that, your aiming is sharp. Of course, you're back in 1998 on PS2 graphic wise, but once you get used to it, it's all good. |
Bubba Brown
Militaires Sans Jeux
105
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Posted - 2013.05.27 00:05:00 -
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that's a tough thing to ask, VERY VERY few people have capture cards for the ps3 |
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XeroTheBigBoss
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Posted - 2013.05.27 00:06:00 -
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Catherine Archer wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote: You can use fast sensitivity to decrease chance for Scouts to outrun your crosshairs.
Dude, you're missing the point badly. Scout class SUPPOSE to outrun your crosshair. That's the system CCP is trying to implement. Not sure if they will succeed, but let them try. Regarding the aiming: It's about low FPS and the game doing something to smoothen it when it's getting too busy. It's NOT about settings or hit detection, it's about lag in what you do / see in the game. I've never played Chromosome, but I've seen videos, and according to my understanding, CCP have buffed up a few things to get better picture and looks like they also nerfed the performance, of the game with it. Everything works brilliantly if you turn off 720p in your PS3 display settings. Once you do that, your aiming is sharp. Of course, you're back in 1998 on PS2 graphic wise, but once you get used to it, it's all good.
Ya low settings fixes it I know. I shouldn't have to play the game on PS2 for it to run right though. I can understand the Scouts are supposed to be too fast to hit. I think they are trying to enter a Rock Paper Scissor system.
Light>Medium Medium>Heavy Heavy>Light. |
Catherine Archer
LUX AETERNA INT RUST415
21
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Posted - 2013.05.27 03:36:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote: Light>Medium Medium>Heavy Heavy>Light.
Well, it's plenty more compilicated than that, but in general, yes. Class specific roles.
Never seen this confirmed by CCP, but issue with aiming and actual hitting, as well as the mouse acceleration issue, feels a lot more complicated than anyone might think. Not just controls and lag compensation issue, but the whole design of the game is the reason. I'm sure guys at CCP are working hard to get this done, so have some patience, mate. |
XeroTheBigBoss
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Posted - 2013.05.27 06:56:00 -
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Catherine Archer wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote: Light>Medium Medium>Heavy Heavy>Light.
Well, it's plenty more compilicated than that, but in general, yes. Class specific roles. Never seen this confirmed by CCP, but issue with aiming and actual hitting, as well as the mouse acceleration issue, feels a lot more complicated than anyone might think. Not just controls and lag compensation issue, but the whole design of the game is the reason. I'm sure guys at CCP are working hard to get this done, so have some patience, mate.
If you read my other thread I have 2 Developers in it they have no clue whats going on, lol! So if you think they are fixing it you are mistaken they are waiting on video evidence so they can see what I am talking about. |
XeroTheBigBoss
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Posted - 2013.05.27 07:35:00 -
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I have just submitted a ticket as well. I hope some more devs see that we need to push this problem up to the top it's a priority for the hit boxes and aim to work in a shooter. I obviously can't get video, I won't give up on you guys but just wanting to put the problem out there as much as I can so CCP can realize it's a pretty big deal. |
RoTTeN-1
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2013.05.27 21:59:00 -
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Bump. Take a look at the video on page 4 https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=78601&p=4 "Working as intended?" |
ShakeMS
Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.05.27 22:43:00 -
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Sounds like this could be a real issue. |
XeroTheBigBoss
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Posted - 2013.06.10 15:49:00 -
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Any videos of the problem? |
XeroTheBigBoss
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Posted - 2013.06.14 03:50:00 -
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Do we have progress on this whole fiasco CCP? |
SENATOR KODOS
Absentee AFK Regiment
156
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Posted - 2013.06.14 03:56:00 -
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I have an HD PVR What you want exactly ? |
Commander Tuna
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
58
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Posted - 2013.06.14 04:05:00 -
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Call me crazy but I prefer the aiming in uprising as compared to Chromosone. It is the hit detection and lag which plagues the game. |
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