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Ric Barlom
On The Brink CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.05.22 09:20:00 -
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So for the last couple of days, guys, I've seen a lot of CRONOS guys verbally attacked here on Dust 514 forums, man, and people have been asking me: "Ric, what's your take on this whole CRONOS being the new bad guys of New Eden dude?" Now that's a great question, guys, and make no mistake about it, I'll be giving my thoughts on this whole issue in this post but first let me just point out a few things before I get started. I'm not here to argue about individual cases, like the BetaMaxGate or the now already famous/infamous CRONOS land grab and whether or not these things were the right thing to do or not because I don't wanna start another flame war, which is known to happen when I issue statements on hot button topics like this.
Now everyone knows I live above the arctic circle, which makes me a tough guy by nature, so a dude running his mouth online doesn't really make my ******* itch that much at all (once you've seen one of them "super packs" of big wolves passing through the town it kind of puts stuff into perspective for you), but because it's the hot topic I'm gonna give you my thoughts on it right now.
You see, guys, I think a lot of dudes are pissed off because, CRONOS (and see how I'm taking an outsider's point of view on this topic) is probably the biggest alliance out there who hold the largest chunk of land out there of any alliance. Of ANY alliance, guys, and that's the important point. At this moment CRONOS dominates Molden Heath, make no mistake about it. And that's the number one reason for all the hate, man, cause when you think about it you know, it makes perfect sense. STB is used to be bad guys when they were destroying people left and right in the early days. After that it was the Imperfects when they won the first tournament, guys. Well now it's CRONOS with all those juicy districts, dude. That's it, guys, it's not rocket science.
That being said, guys. I don't think anyone's ever gonna break CRONOS' record of more than 34% of all districts controlled by a single alliance. And knowing we took another one just last night, I think it's only fair that I end this post with a quote from a great man. "One more in the record books, one more in the win column, and one more for the bad guys." |
steadyhand amarr
BetaMax Beta CRONOS.
578
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Posted - 2013.05.22 09:25:00 -
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Someone will break the record and their will be another bad guy. All empires fall to bereplaced by a new one and in time that one falls too. All we can do is grab as much stuff as we can before it falls
Put another way. U think way to much just shoot everyone u see and grab as much as u can :-P:-P |
Ric Barlom
On The Brink CRONOS.
140
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Posted - 2013.05.22 09:28:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:Someone will break the record and their will be another bad guy. All empires fall to bereplaced by a new one and in time that one falls too. All we can do is grab as much stuff as we can before it falls
Put another way. U think way to much just shoot everyone u see and grab as much as u can :-P:-P Well the reason why I think, nobody's gonna break the record, man, is because once they open up other regions it's going to be much harder to control 30% of all districts. |
Gigatron Prime
The.Primes
49
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Posted - 2013.05.22 09:28:00 -
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Amarr Empire is the only empire. We will make slaves of you all! |
Ric Barlom
On The Brink CRONOS.
140
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Posted - 2013.05.22 09:31:00 -
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Gigatron Prime wrote:Amarr Empire is the only empire. We will make slaves of you all! Haha no doubt about it! |
lllIIIlI IIIlIl
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
38
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Posted - 2013.05.22 09:31:00 -
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Shut the **** up. |
Hecarim Van Hohen
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
59
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Posted - 2013.05.22 09:36:00 -
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I laughed, +1 dude.
And it's the partial truth what you say about the land owning, but the hate for CRONOS runs deep and strong in many of us. (Me not included, I feel somewhat indifferent about CRONOS)
I'd also like to end my post to a quote by one of the greatest men of our time.
"Simple mind thrives in simple chores." |
Jason Pearson
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1264
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Posted - 2013.05.22 09:42:00 -
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I'm not hated. |
Mithridates VI
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
1587
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Posted - 2013.05.22 09:44:00 -
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I love how objective this thread of CRONOS members is. |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1101
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Posted - 2013.05.22 09:45:00 -
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Nah its just that when 3 of the CPM belong to one alliance then start to abuse the broken game mechanics in PC when they also openly critiicise AFKing in the MCC (hypocrites) it just makes a bad name for them |
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Ric Barlom
On The Brink CRONOS.
140
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Posted - 2013.05.22 09:48:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:I love how objective this thread of CRONOS members is. Tried to keep it as objective as humanly possible. I mean, I threw in a little shoutout at the end for the guys doing a good job, but that's it. |
TERMINALANCE
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
39
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Posted - 2013.05.22 09:51:00 -
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Ok now this is the difference between hating the guy at work who wont stop whistling (STB), the guy who never puts on a fresh pot of Joe(IMPS) and the guy who parks in the handicap spot because its a legitimate playstyle until someone stops him! (CRONOS)
CRONOS is not hated because of their personality or minor flaws as we are all human.
They are hated because of what they DO and how selfish they are to the point that they walk over basic principles of society. |
Ric Barlom
On The Brink CRONOS.
140
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Posted - 2013.05.22 09:52:00 -
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EnglishSnake wrote:Nah its just that when 3 of the CPM belong to one alliance then start to abuse the broken game mechanics in PC when they also openly critiicise AFKing in the MCC (hypocrites) it just makes a bad name for them As far as I know, Snake, we only have one CPM in CRONOS and yeah she was part of the BetaMaxGate but let's be honest here, bro. The hate has been in the air ever since day one when CRONOS grabbed 33% of all districts with a flick of a wrist. |
Exmaple Core
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
339
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Posted - 2013.05.22 09:53:00 -
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Ric Barlom wrote:So for the last couple of days, guys, I've seen a lot of CRONOS guys verbally attacked here on Dust 514 forums, man, and people have been asking me: "Ric, what's your take on this whole CRONOS being the new bad guys of New Eden dude?" Now that's a great question, guys, and make no mistake about it, I'll be giving my thoughts on this whole issue in this post but first let me just point out a few things before I get started. I'm not here to argue about individual cases, like the BetaMaxGate or the now already famous/infamous CRONOS land grab and whether or not these things were the right thing to do or not because I don't wanna start another flame war, which is known to happen when I issue statements on hot button topics like this.
Now everyone knows I live above the arctic circle, which makes me a tough guy by nature, so a dude running his mouth online doesn't really make my ******* itch that much at all (once you've seen one of them "super packs" of big wolves passing through the town it kind of puts stuff into perspective for you), but because it's the hot topic I'm gonna give you my thoughts on it right now.
You see, guys, I think a lot of dudes are pissed off because, CRONOS (and see how I'm taking an outsider's point of view on this topic) is probably the biggest alliance out there who hold the largest chunk of land out there of any alliance. Of ANY alliance, guys, and that's the important point. At this moment CRONOS dominates Molden Heath, make no mistake about it. And that's the number one reason for all the hate, man, cause when you think about it you know, it makes perfect sense. STB is used to be bad guys when they were destroying people left and right in the early days. After that it was the Imperfects when they won the first tournament, guys. Well now it's CRONOS with all those juicy districts, dude. That's it, guys, it's not rocket science.
That being said, guys. I don't think anyone's ever gonna break CRONOS' record of more than 34% of all districts controlled by a single alliance. And knowing we took another one just last night, I think it's only fair that I end this post with a quote from a great man. "One more in the record books, one more in the win column, and one more for the bad guys." You are completly 100% mistaken on why chronos are the bad guys. Ppl do not like them because they are playing very dirty to win and their in pretty much everyones bussness. If it was fair and non sabotoged, if the CPMs werent sayin gits okay to exploit and be an ass about it then there would be alot of GG and "oh ****, chronos is really good and their cool dudes i might go join them" But CRONOS has made a very bad rep telling ppl to "HTFU" because they are exploiting poorly written game mechanics justifying that its okay to do in eve so its okay here, and the solution is to break apart your corp to not get screwed over. 100% dirty, say its "new eden" but no one likes you guys because of the situation. I like you guys as ppl, sha kharne is a freind of mine and we share laughs but very broken tactics |
Ric Barlom
On The Brink CRONOS.
140
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Posted - 2013.05.22 09:57:00 -
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TERMINALANCE wrote:Ok now this is the difference between hating the guy at work who wont stop whistling (STB), the guy who never puts on a fresh pot of Joe(IMPS) and the guy who parks in the handicap spot because its a legitimate playstyle until someone stops him! (CRONOS)
CRONOS is not hated because of their personality or minor flaws as we are all human.
They are hatted because of what they DO and how selfish they are to the point that they walk over basic principles of society. I mean yeah, Termin, we've got some ruthless sons of bitches in our alliance, no question about it! But here's the thing, man, and let me be perfectly honest here because New Eden, just like life isn't all about sunshine and cotton candy, bro. There's always going to be that one dude who's willing to go that extra mile, willing to take that extra step to get what he wants but it's only those ones who end up achieving something, while breaking the rules, who end up being hated like this. |
DeeJay One
BetaMax. CRONOS.
30
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Posted - 2013.05.22 09:59:00 -
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Exmaple Core wrote:But CRONOS has made a very bad rep telling ppl to "HTFU" because they are exploiting poorly written game mechanics justifying that its okay to do in eve so its okay here, and the solution is to break apart your corp to not get screwed over. 100% dirty, say its "new eden" but no one likes you guys because of the situation. I like you guys as ppl, sha kharne is a freind of mine and we share laughs but very broken tactics Problem is that people are abusing the word exploiting. CRONOS is just using the tools that are in the game, they're rubbish and I think everyone in the alliance agrees with it that they need to change, until then, well - game on. |
Exmaple Core
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
339
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Posted - 2013.05.22 10:02:00 -
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DeeJay One wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:But CRONOS has made a very bad rep telling ppl to "HTFU" because they are exploiting poorly written game mechanics justifying that its okay to do in eve so its okay here, and the solution is to break apart your corp to not get screwed over. 100% dirty, say its "new eden" but no one likes you guys because of the situation. I like you guys as ppl, sha kharne is a freind of mine and we share laughs but very broken tactics Problem is that people are abusing the word exploiting. CRONOS is just using the tools that are in the game, they're rubbish and I think everyone in the alliance agrees with it that they need to change, until then, well - game on. "use" whateva you like but if you use dirty tactics then game on and hate on. jus how things work out |
Ric Barlom
On The Brink CRONOS.
141
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Posted - 2013.05.22 10:03:00 -
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Exmaple Core wrote: You are completly 100% mistaken on why chronos are the bad guys. Ppl do not like them because they are playing very dirty to win and their in pretty much everyones bussness. If it was fair and non sabotoged, if the CPMs werent sayin gits okay to exploit and be an ass about it then there would be alot of GG and "oh ****, chronos is really good and their cool dudes i might go join them" But CRONOS has made a very bad rep telling ppl to "HTFU" because they are exploiting poorly written game mechanics justifying that its okay to do in eve so its okay here, and the solution is to break apart your corp to not get screwed over. 100% dirty, say its "new eden" but no one likes you guys because of the situation. I like you guys as ppl, sha kharne is a freind of mine and we share laughs but very broken tactics
Oh yeah, Core, it's a dirty tactic no question about it! That being said though, CRONOS isn't the only guys who have used this tactic, nor is every corp in CRONOS using this tactic either but fact is that CRONOS is the most talked about and hated. And why is that? Because we control the most districts, bro. Let's be honest here. |
TERMINALANCE
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
39
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Posted - 2013.05.22 10:04:00 -
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Ric Barlom wrote:TERMINALANCE wrote:Ok now this is the difference between hating the guy at work who wont stop whistling (STB), the guy who never puts on a fresh pot of Joe(IMPS) and the guy who parks in the handicap spot because its a legitimate playstyle until someone stops him! (CRONOS)
CRONOS is not hated because of their personality or minor flaws as we are all human.
They are hatted because of what they DO and how selfish they are to the point that they walk over basic principles of society. I mean yeah, Termin, we've got some ruthless sons of bitches in our alliance, no question about it! But here's the thing, man, and let me be perfectly honest here because New Eden, just like life isn't all about sunshine and cotton candy, bro. There's always going to be that one dude who's willing to go that extra mile, willing to take that extra step to get what he wants but it's only those ones who end up achieving something, while breaking the rules, who end up being hated like this.
That is not true at all, plenty of people are hated who achieved practically nothing but in the process wronged allot of people. Saying success is the post by which people are liked or disliked is false.
Many people have achieved allot and are loved for it or at the very least not hated.
Now when you get to the top by tricks a psychopath would use (without empathy) instead of working fairly and achieving through merit that's the difference between being hated or just plain jealousy.
Its not about how many districts CRONOS has Ric, its about how they got them......
unless you feel Paris Hilton deserves her success...... |
Exmaple Core
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
339
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Posted - 2013.05.22 10:07:00 -
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Ric Barlom wrote:Exmaple Core wrote: You are completly 100% mistaken on why chronos are the bad guys. Ppl do not like them because they are playing very dirty to win and their in pretty much everyones bussness. If it was fair and non sabotoged, if the CPMs werent sayin gits okay to exploit and be an ass about it then there would be alot of GG and "oh ****, chronos is really good and their cool dudes i might go join them" But CRONOS has made a very bad rep telling ppl to "HTFU" because they are exploiting poorly written game mechanics justifying that its okay to do in eve so its okay here, and the solution is to break apart your corp to not get screwed over. 100% dirty, say its "new eden" but no one likes you guys because of the situation. I like you guys as ppl, sha kharne is a freind of mine and we share laughs but very broken tactics
Oh yeah, Core, it's a dirty tactic no question about it! That being said though, CRONOS isn't the only guys who have used this tactic, nor is every corp in CRONOS using this tactic either but fact is that CRONOS is the most talked about and hated. And why is that? Because we control the most districts, bro. Let's be honest here.
true good point. +1 |
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Jason Pearson
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1265
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Posted - 2013.05.22 10:08:00 -
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Haters gonna hate. |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1101
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Posted - 2013.05.22 10:10:00 -
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Ric Barlom wrote:EnglishSnake wrote:Nah its just that when 3 of the CPM belong to one alliance then start to abuse the broken game mechanics in PC when they also openly critiicise AFKing in the MCC (hypocrites) it just makes a bad name for them As far as I know, Snake, we only have one CPM in CRONOS and yeah she was part of the BetaMaxGate but let's be honest here, bro. The hate has been in the air ever since day one when CRONOS grabbed 33% of all districts with a flick of a wrist.
Wrong
IWS - Betamax or at least used to be, now in a new corp which is prob in some way betamax and they made it so awox wont happen to them while they do it to everyone else Caz - CRONOS Jenza - Betamax
Noone cared about the districts they would take because they would lose them eventually to far better corps except the only way they could hold onto them is by awoxing and being super secret awesome spies while saying 'AFKing is hurting the game and is bad and driving new players away' while PC has stopped recruitment for every single corp looking to take part in PC in someway and every single new player is now a spy or labeled a spy because he will auto awox in a PC battle so new players are also getting shafted
Yay CPM way to break the game you represent |
Ric Barlom
On The Brink CRONOS.
142
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Posted - 2013.05.22 10:10:00 -
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TERMINALANCE wrote:Ric Barlom wrote:TERMINALANCE wrote:Ok now this is the difference between hating the guy at work who wont stop whistling (STB), the guy who never puts on a fresh pot of Joe(IMPS) and the guy who parks in the handicap spot because its a legitimate playstyle until someone stops him! (CRONOS)
CRONOS is not hated because of their personality or minor flaws as we are all human.
They are hatted because of what they DO and how selfish they are to the point that they walk over basic principles of society. I mean yeah, Termin, we've got some ruthless sons of bitches in our alliance, no question about it! But here's the thing, man, and let me be perfectly honest here because New Eden, just like life isn't all about sunshine and cotton candy, bro. There's always going to be that one dude who's willing to go that extra mile, willing to take that extra step to get what he wants but it's only those ones who end up achieving something, while breaking the rules, who end up being hated like this. That is not true at all, plenty of people are hated who achieved practically nothing but in the process wronged allot of people. Saying success is the post by which people are liked or disliked is false. Many people have achieved allot and are loved for it or at the very least not hated. Now when you get to the top by tricks a psychopath would use (without empathy) instead of working fairly and achieving through merit that's the difference between being hated or just plain jealousy. Its not about how many districts CRONOS has Ric, its about how they got them...... unless you feel Paris Hilton deserves her success...... Well as I said, in the opening post, I'm not here to argue about whether or not some of these things were the right thing to do, that's another topic, Termin. And to answer your questions of how we go the districts, well quite honestly many of them were grabbed day one with a flick of a wrist, no big deal. Some of them were taken through force and yeah, I believe some of them were taken by dirty tactics. That being said, the smell of hate was already in the air before this whole BetaMaxGate. |
ImpureMort
Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic
61
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Posted - 2013.05.22 10:10:00 -
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Ric Barlom wrote:So for the last couple of days, guys, I've seen a lot of CRONOS guys verbally attacked here on Dust 514 forums, man, and people have been asking me: "Ric, what's your take on this whole CRONOS being the new bad guys of New Eden dude?" Now that's a great question, guys, and make no mistake about it, I'll be giving my thoughts on this whole issue in this post but first let me just point out a few things before I get started. I'm not here to argue about individual cases, like the BetaMaxGate or the now already famous/infamous CRONOS land grab and whether or not these things were the right thing to do or not because I don't wanna start another flame war, which is known to happen when I issue statements on hot button topics like this.
Now everyone knows I live above the arctic circle, which makes me a tough guy by nature, so a dude running his mouth online doesn't really make my ******* itch that much at all (once you've seen one of them "super packs" of big wolves passing through the town it kind of puts stuff into perspective for you), but because it's the hot topic I'm gonna give you my thoughts on it right now.
You see, guys, I think a lot of dudes are pissed off because, CRONOS (and see how I'm taking an outsider's point of view on this topic) is probably the biggest alliance out there who hold the largest chunk of land out there of any alliance. Of ANY alliance, guys, and that's the important point. At this moment CRONOS dominates Molden Heath, make no mistake about it. And that's the number one reason for all the hate, man, cause when you think about it you know, it makes perfect sense. STB is used to be bad guys when they were destroying people left and right in the early days. After that it was the Imperfects when they won the first tournament, guys. Well now it's CRONOS with all those juicy districts, dude. That's it, guys, it's not rocket science.
That being said, guys. I don't think anyone's ever gonna break CRONOS' record of more than 34% of all districts controlled by a single alliance. And knowing we took another one just last night, I think it's only fair that I end this post with a quote from a great man. "One more in the record books, one more in the win column, and one more for the bad guys." no ones mad at you and no one hates you ...but no one has any respect for you ..the fact is there are a few decent players in chronos and a bunch of avg players...and quiet a few complete scrubs and that is how it is with MOST of the corps in dust ...but MOST of the other corps in dust just try real hard..and even when they lose the still have the respect you lack....why is this...because you dedicate yourself to underhand bullshit tactics because your to chicken **** to try without. and then the end result was ultimate shame...and now that shame will haunt your name ...your the new pro ...no ones hates you no ones mad at you ..no one respects you no one fears you and everyone is laughing at you. |
ImpureMort
Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic
61
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Posted - 2013.05.22 10:11:00 -
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ImpureMort wrote:Ric Barlom wrote:So for the last couple of days, guys, I've seen a lot of CRONOS guys verbally attacked here on Dust 514 forums, man, and people have been asking me: "Ric, what's your take on this whole CRONOS being the new bad guys of New Eden dude?" Now that's a great question, guys, and make no mistake about it, I'll be giving my thoughts on this whole issue in this post but first let me just point out a few things before I get started. I'm not here to argue about individual cases, like the BetaMaxGate or the now already famous/infamous CRONOS land grab and whether or not these things were the right thing to do or not because I don't wanna start another flame war, which is known to happen when I issue statements on hot button topics like this.
Now everyone knows I live above the arctic circle, which makes me a tough guy by nature, so a dude running his mouth online doesn't really make my ******* itch that much at all (once you've seen one of them "super packs" of big wolves passing through the town it kind of puts stuff into perspective for you), but because it's the hot topic I'm gonna give you my thoughts on it right now.
You see, guys, I think a lot of dudes are pissed off because, CRONOS (and see how I'm taking an outsider's point of view on this topic) is probably the biggest alliance out there who hold the largest chunk of land out there of any alliance. Of ANY alliance, guys, and that's the important point. At this moment CRONOS dominates Molden Heath, make no mistake about it. And that's the number one reason for all the hate, man, cause when you think about it you know, it makes perfect sense. STB is used to be bad guys when they were destroying people left and right in the early days. After that it was the Imperfects when they won the first tournament, guys. Well now it's CRONOS with all those juicy districts, dude. That's it, guys, it's not rocket science.
That being said, guys. I don't think anyone's ever gonna break CRONOS' record of more than 34% of all districts controlled by a single alliance. And knowing we took another one just last night, I think it's only fair that I end this post with a quote from a great man. "One more in the record books, one more in the win column, and one more for the bad guys." no ones mad at you and no one hates you ...but no one has any respect for you ..the fact is there are a few decent players in chronos and a bunch of avg players...and quiet a few complete scrubs and that is how it is with MOST of the corps in dust ...but MOST of the other corps in dust just try real hard..and even when they lose the still have the respect you lack....why is this...because you dedicate yourself to underhand bullshit tactics because your to chicken **** to try without. and then the end result was ultimate shame...and now that shame will haunt your name ...your the new pro ...no ones hates you no ones mad at you ..no one respects you no one fears you and everyone is laughing at you.
they're are players in chronos that have personal respect ...they're are quiet a few of yall that i respect...but your corp is a laughing stock |
Jimbeezy
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
259
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Posted - 2013.05.22 10:14:00 -
[26] - Quote
It's all because of Jenza's pants. |
ImpureMort
Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic
61
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Posted - 2013.05.22 10:15:00 -
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Jimbeezy wrote:It's all because of Jenza's pants. i agree ew |
Ric Barlom
On The Brink CRONOS.
142
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Posted - 2013.05.22 10:17:00 -
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ImpureMort wrote:no ones mad at you and no one hates you ...but no one has any respect for you ..the fact is there are a few decent players in chronos and a bunch of avg players...and quiet a few complete scrubs and that is how it is with MOST of the corps in dust ...but MOST of the other corps in dust just try real hard..and even when they lose the still have the respect you lack....why is this...because you dedicate yourself to underhand bullshit tactics because your to chicken **** to try without. and then the end result was ultimate shame...and now that shame will haunt your name ...your the new pro ...no ones hates you no ones mad at you ..no one respects you no one fears you and everyone is laughing at you. I'm trying to have a proper discussion here and then something like this happens. I mean my God, I don't know how old you are or where you're from but I suggest you take some writing lessons to get your point across just a little bit better! The second thing is, and I don't think I'm the only one here, that when someone talks to me like that, the first thing I think is that the guy dislikes me! I sure as hell don't like you! |
trollsroyce
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
452
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Posted - 2013.05.22 10:20:00 -
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That Ric Barlom style, man, is so good to read. Dude, you rock and are the best poster. <3 |
steadyhand amarr
BetaMax Beta CRONOS.
578
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Posted - 2013.05.22 10:20:00 -
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Meh last time a checked the only resion people kicked off was due to unnatural focus cpms get. And this communtys wired obsession with jenza. That said people will move on when hellstorm or imps doing somthing of note :-) |
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