reasons why


Pc has only been out for 6 days and she has already ruined or attempted to ruin a few pc battles

She has bragged about infiltrating corps and ruining players experience with the game

She is giving this game a bad reputation just days after the official release

How can we trust her to do her job as cpm in an unbiased Manor if she can't even be trusted in game

so how do we know did she will make her CPM decisions for the good of the playerbase and not just for the good of her Corp






I'd like to at least have a vote on this So please comment with your votes

Yes remove her or no leave her as a CPM member

She has bragged about infiltrating corps and ruining players experience with the game

This is in no way against the rules, and is in fact actively encouraged. Welcome to New Eden, this ain't CoD or Battlefield.

This is in no way against the rules, and is in fact actively encouraged. Welcome to New Eden, this ain't CoD or Battlefield.

Although infiiltrating a corp in DUST is easy mode compared to EVE.

This is in no way against the rules, and is in fact actively encouraged. Welcome to New Eden, this ain't CoD or Battlefield.

This is in no way against the rules, and is in fact actively encouraged. Welcome to New Eden, this ain't CoD or Battlefield.

It's not very difficult to infiltrate a corp in EVE. Have you ever heard of chainsmoking? That's pretty much what is going on here.

lol..."infiltrating"...

having someone apply / accepted into a corp, crash their PC game, then invite people. Wow that's hard work...very skillful

It's a lot harder to screw over a corp in EVE. In DUST, as long as you can submit an application to a corp and select the right battle ( if you can't do this, DUST isn't for you) you can screw people over. There is 0 effort required and 0 skill involved.

Should the corp doing the recruiting not be looking into who it is they are recruiting?

A battle won by minimal effort and minimal skill is a most efficiently won battle.

She has been ruining Dust ever since she was in the Beta.

Her own Corp was purposely War Point boosting by Damaging their own vehicles & clones just too use Repair Kits. She and them were also caught in the act.

She never should been included anyways. that whole stream for charity is a SCAM and a flat out lie !!!!!!!!!!!!!!


forgot to vote:

YES remove her

to be honest i was hoping one one the cpm would do something to show a bit of the *new eden charm* ty jenza.... no really thanks the meta game is what will make dust unique

Yes, because in DUST we really have the tools to look where someone has been.

It's not like we can just create an unlimited amount of free PSN accounts - oh wait.

A battle won by minimal effort and minimal skill is a most efficiently won battle.

You have the tools to filter players into your corp without injecting them straight into front line roles. Don't pretend like you aren't bringing it on yourself by just fronting "newberries" straight into a PC match if you are already aware of the potential for strife that they can cause.

It's also a boring piece of crap. If you really think people would stick around and play DUST when there is no real fights, you're crazy.

CCP, if you don't want DUST to completely fail, you need to give CEO's more tools to control their corps.

People defending a broken mechanic? SMFH. Saying welcome to new eden and this is how it is in eve?

I thought in EVE you can kick people from the fleet?

So directors and CEO's must not have the power to kick people from a battle? or better yet, SELECT WHO HE WANTS TO FIGHT IN THE BATTLE?

Nah, that sounds too logical to work right? Yea, HTFU. CEO's is in charge of an entire army, but can't kick people from battle. Yeah that makes perfect sense.

by unique you mean new players having no chance of getting into a good corp and being part of PC?

Then yeah, well done. That's exactly what's going on now. New player to DUST and wanted to see what PC was about? Well you have no chance of getting into a talented corp sir. Have a good time and enjoy your stay

Who says we put newberries straight into PC matches? Do you even PLAY Dust? As long as someone is in your corp they can join the match.

Pc has only been out for 6 days and she has already ruined or attempted to ruin a few pc battles

wow... you blew past my entire point there i was saying the current and future meta game needs to be shown if dust in anyway expects to live up to its hype. Eve online is famous for this and in many ways drives the player base for good or bad the fact that one of the cpm does this showcases it nicely.

This is in no way against the rules, and is in fact actively encouraged. Welcome to New Eden, this ain't CoD or Battlefield.

Thank god goonfeet, please get more of you guys in here we need you ;u;

People defending a broken mechanic? SMFH. Saying welcome to new eden and this is how it is in eve?

I thought in EVE you can kick people from the fleet?

So directors and CEO's must not have the power to kick people from a battle? or better yet, SELECT WHO HE WANTS TO FIGHT IN THE BATTLE?

Nah, that sounds too logical to work right? Yea, HTFU. CEO's is in charge of an entire army, but can't kick people from battle. Yeah that makes perfect sense.

Pc has only been out for 6 days and she has already ruined or attempted to ruin a few pc battles

She has bragged about infiltrating corps and ruining players experience with the game

She is giving this game a bad reputation just days after the official release

How can we trust her to do her job as cpm in an unbiased Manor if she can't even be trusted in game

so how do we know did she will make her CPM decisions for the good of the playerbase and not just for the good of her Corp

There are plenty of real fights. But if someone is beating you without having to fight, then kudos to them. If you're gonna quit over it, go ahead. Just means more spoils for the rest of us. Perhaps, instead of whining about "no real fights", you can start thinking of how to force your enemies into a "real fight" so you can put your "ub3r-1337-gunskillz" to use.

Seriously, not less than 24 hours ago, I saw someone complaining on these forums that the roles all the units have are useless unless they are forced into direct conflict in this game, because there is nothing but "shoot the enemy". Now I've got someone complaining that there is a mechanic available where you can win without firing a shot....

MAKE UP YOUR MINDZ!! ffs

No, but that's not really it, the real problem is that you're losing and you can't think of how to win, so you want CCP to change the game to your benefit. We've got pubbies like you in EVE too. We also have suicide ganking to deal with them. And that's why friendly fire needs to be available in EVERY match.

well yeah those sorts of things should be in game. But just so you know it's ttoaly in the rules to break into corp, gain trust and then spend a single important PC battle doing nothing but killing your own team. You will be rewarded for it.And praised.

However being able to control who goes into battle before hand is important, but once your on the battlefield you better hope you can trust those people.

Links or your argument has no backing.
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Plus watch this

I couldn't give two fucks about what you do in EVE or where FF is available.

CCP has invested a lot of time and money into DUST, and if it fails because all of the players that would actually play the game and spend money leave, it could hurt EVE as well.

I know you love your blue doughnut in EVE, with 0 fighting, but DUST is literally a game about fighting. People don't play an FPS so they can sit back and watch their "team mates" sit in the MCC committing suicide with grenades.

By the way, who said I was losing? You should stop making up random crap like that.

HAHA!! You tears, tey are lovely. Your assumption that I am in a sov alliance, also, brilliant. Rage more, silly twit, and please, keep breaking the forum language rules so you get bantears as well.

CCP invested money made from EVE, but EVE has no investment from DUST, so if DUST goes down, it's very unlikely it will drag EVE with it. It's also very unlikely that DUST will go down based on your assumption that people will find this kind of intrigue boring, or the assumption that this kind of gameplay will somehow result in the absolute be-all and end-all death of all fighting in DUST. It won't, because people who are enjoying the game are learning how to counter the methods used, while people who have either already decided it's crap or can't think for themselves are whining about it on the forums instead of playing.

Now, I do plenty of fighting, in both EVE and DUST. I currently have little to no stake in PC, but we're still sussing out the different allegiances, and waiting for a few to turn up, to see what's going on when the dust settles (no pun intended). We're just kind of biding our time for the moment, enjoying the simpler aspects of the game. Anyway, point is, before you start making assumptions about UDHI, you should really try to learn something about us first.

Also, I would recommend refraining from such angry language on the forums. It will get you all banned up outta here.

You're pretty bad at "trolling" and if you thought that was angry with tears everywhere you've obviously not been to many forums.

Anyway, after this I can see you don't really understand what's going on.

Goodbye - feel free to have the last word, I won't be replying unless someone comes up with somewhat really good.

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I think people are forgetting one little tiny detail. This is in fact... the first Council of Planetary Management. It's clear to everyone here that Planetary Conquest needs to be fixed, and removing two members of the CPM merely a month into their term isn't going to solve the issue. They exploited the mechanic, they can surely bring it up in a meeting with other members of the CPM and with developers of CCP and demand or call a fix for it.

Another thing to keep in mind... this is probably the first FPS to have elected players working closely with the community, and the developers to help make the game favorable to everyone.

Now... I'm a firm believer that both IWS and Jenza are adult enough to be able to separate work from play. In this particular case, being able to know when it's time to buckle down as a CPM rep, and when to go about their daily lives as CEO's of their particular corporation.

People are jumping the gun way to quickly and calling for a removal of these two members all because they openly stated that they support AWOXing because it's a form of meta-game. I'm sure they know that the games internal security isn't what EVE's is, and are discussing this with the other members of the CPM in order to improve the meta-game all together.

Also, in my opinion, exploiting a mechanic that many call broken is a good thing. Especially when you've got the entire world watching your actions as it makes things get done a lot quicker.

It would not surprise me one bit if in a couple of weeks or months from now, a security feature for PC was installed in a patch.

On the other hand, I do love how the chain of events lead to this...

Randoms infiltrate D-UNI -> Said randoms (now known as Grief University) attempt to ransom D-UNI out of a 100m, they fail and proceed to throw the match in Seraphim's favor -> Grief Uni posts a thread on the forums detailing their success -> Plenty of people call them out, a few applaud, others merely troll -> RIFT is infiltrated -> IWS openly approves of subterfuge and sabotaging PC battles w/ infiltrated operatives. Calling it an 'acceptable form of meta-game' -> Jenza openly approves -> Because of this people begin calling for the removal of both IWS and Jenza from the Council of Planetary Management -> Tibus Heth approves -> Me making this post for absolutely no reason, and being extremely sleepy

Also to be clear, I have no problems with infiltrating corps and screwing them over from the inside - I'm just trying to say it shouldn't be this easy, CEO's NEED to have the ability to control who enters PC matches. If you've earned the trust of your CEO and get put into the match and then you screw them over that's fine.

People defending a broken mechanic? SMFH. Saying welcome to new eden and this is how it is in eve?

I thought in EVE you can kick people from the fleet?



So directors and CEO's must not have the power to kick people from a battle? or better yet, SELECT WHO HE WANTS TO FIGHT IN THE BATTLE?

Nah, that sounds too logical to work right? Yea, HTFU. CEO's is in charge of an entire army, but can't kick people from battle. Yeah that makes perfect sense.

Fight me 1v1 de_dust

She has been ruining Dust ever since she was in the Beta.

Her own Corp was purposely War Point boosting by Damaging their own vehicles & clones just too use Repair Kits. She and them were also caught in the act.

She never should been included anyways. that whole stream for charity is a SCAM and a flat out lie !!!!!!!!!!!!!!


forgot to vote:

YES remove her

I suck at CS though :(