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If everyone had about the same health, and/or the weapons did a decent amount of damage regardless of the weapons tier then this might be funner to play.

You are describing an arcade game. DUST 514 was not made for you. I don't mean any disrespect, but I wouldn't wait around to see if your vision for DUST materializes. It won't. I promise you.

I promise you this game won't become popular enough for ANYONE'S vision of it to materialize. You can't make a FPS game this enormous then expect that many people to be okay with their gun game being completed disregarded. I appreciate your polite response though. I was expecting a more hostile crowd.

I promise you this game won't become popular enough for ANYONE'S vision of it to materialize

the 3,000 player count increase in a week begs to differ.

We are going to have to agree to disagree. I made my statement based on more than a decade of experience watching CCPs vision unfold. A decade. DUST is symbiotic with EVE. This is not and never will be an arcade shooter. You are predicting failure, but you're not the target audience for the game. It's ok to say it doesn't work for you. It's all good.

the 3,000 player count increase in a week begs to differ.

We are going to have to agree to disagree. I made my statement based on more than a decade of experience watching CCPs vision unfold. A decade. DUST is symbiotic with EVE. This is not and never will be an arcade shooter. You are predicting failure, but you're not the target audience for the game. It's ok to say it doesn't work for you. It's all good.

Clyde, mmo's dont become popular over night.

Many mmo's go through several phases untill they reach thier full level of greatness, and Dust my friend is still in its earlystages.

Dust 514 is a hybrid among standards

Imo I believe this game will eventally reach its full potentinal in regards of the fps/mmo combine.

... you can't rambo **** in dust...

I personally think they need to make more games like this that take more than "just" a quick hand/eye

COD= All the douche bag gamers consolidated in one online gaming community. I.E. children, and preteens the Cod community is simply the grade school of FPS's literally nothing but a bunch of class clowns on that game.

Battlefield= For a time BF was the Mans shooter, Bad company was glorious, but with BF3 and Dice nerfing and buffing after listening to all the christmas noobs and ruining the game it kind of lost its momentum and ruined the game, because the things they nerfed seriously made no sense like IR flare breaking laser locks? laser guided weapon systems aren't even affected by IR flares.

DUST 514= Is University Level FPS gameplay man. This is a thinking mans game with some serious strategizing going on. When your playing against a team with some serious players you either work together or die. This game is the only game that encourages team play because Rock, Paper, Scissors. If your just a long rock your going to get owned.

If you ask me, if you got the balls to hang in Dust, than it kills BF and COD 10 fold.

The issue here is that on any other FPS game a noobie with a pistol can kill a 500000 day old veteran if he pops in a good half a clip without being instaibbed first. Not in Dust. If you're LUCKY you'll be able to break their shields with a whole clip, then die.

I play every now and then, but last time I logged in I had to download an enormous update. I played a bit and thought "This game is getting close, but it still has about 5-6 months before it's ready. The developers need to hurry up and make the controls feel more fluid so we can really start testing this beta". But I keep hearing everyone talk like it's no longer in beta phase. If this is seriously the game, and it's always going to feel like I'm walking on the moon with rollerskates on in an ice rink, then I'm not impressed.

What's the point of 80 bullets in an SMG when I can unload every bullet in someones back, and not even break his shield because of what he has equipped? There's no talent in that. It's just chance as to who you will run into and be capable of killing.

If everyone had about the same health, and/or the weapons did a decent amount of damage regardless of the weapons tier then this might be funner to play, but as it is right now you can have every beginning advantage when fighting someone and still lose, simply because they just have so many more hitpoints than you. 80 bullets should kill anyone. And if it doesn't kill anyone, then that weapon better reload fast as **** - but no, you have to spend hundreds of thousands of skill points to level up a weapon to have attributes it should already have.

I promise you this game won't become popular enough for ANYONE'S vision of it to materialize. You can't make a FPS game this enormous then expect that many people to be okay with their gun game being completed disregarded. I appreciate your polite response though. I was expecting a more hostile crowd.

I agree more games should be tactical, but this game requires too little hand eye coordination.

The problem with this though is you shouldn't need your team to save you from a heavy that you emptied your clip into. who you ran into one on one. I actually have been mowed down multiple times with my team by one laser rifle super hero who has invested way more time into the game than I can, so traveling with your team isn't the key to success.

Wow, okay, the game JUST released. Games are most popular when they just release. On release day, Black Ops had the following playing:

PC - 75,000
PS3 - 80,000
360 - 3,000,000

I play every now and then, but last time I logged in I had to download an enormous update. I played a bit and thought "This game is getting close, but it still has about 5-6 months before it's ready. The developers need to hurry up and make the controls feel more fluid so we can really start testing this beta". But I keep hearing everyone talk like it's no longer in beta phase. If this is seriously the game, and it's always going to feel like I'm walking on the moon with rollerskates on in an ice rink, then I'm not impressed.

This game looks pretty (finally) but there are zero maps that implement close range. Aside from that all the maps look the same, and are bland. The PS3 can do better than this. It looks like a good game but the gameplay itself just doesn't compare to other FPS's, and I'm not even talking about CoD. I'd rather play Perfect Dark on N64 against Simbots than this. What's the point of 80 bullets in an SMG when I can unload every bullet in someones back, and not even break his shield because of what he has equipped? There's no talent in that. It's just chance as to who you will run into and be capable of killing. People who are devout fans of FPS's probably won't like this game because it panders to much to an MMORPG fanbase, which is bad because this game is an FPS. In fact, I know none of my friends like it, and we all play FPS's together. Even my old clan from MAG doesn't like this game, and we had over 150+ members. I can't imagine people who love MMORPG's playing this game for more than a year, because this game falls right between the crowds it's supposed to pander to, and I doubt either crowd will catch it.

If everyone had about the same health, and/or the weapons did a decent amount of damage regardless of the weapons tier then this might be funner to play, but as it is right now you can have every beginning advantage when fighting someone and still lose, simply because they just have so many more hitpoints than you. 80 bullets should kill anyone. And if it doesn't kill anyone, then that weapon better reload fast as **** - but no, you have to spend hundreds of thousands of skill points to level up a weapon to have attributes it should already have.

Right now, this game is like playing paper, rock, scissors with worse graphics.

EDIT: You might think this game will succeed for the simple fact that people who love MMORPG's will make it work, but eventually all those people are going to have their skills up high enough and still realize how awful their KDR's are, and then they will abandon this game because they just don't have gun game. People who love playing with lots of people have better games where they can do just that, and do more than just shoot, run for a long time, and hack a terminal. People who love FPS's have many other games where gun game is a necessity and rewarded.

COD= All the douche bag gamers consolidated in one online gaming community. I.E. children, and preteens the Cod community is simply the grade school of FPS's literally nothing but a bunch of class clowns on that game.

Battlefield= For a time BF was the Mans shooter, Bad company was glorious, but with BF3 and Dice nerfing and buffing after listening to all the christmas noobs and ruining the game it kind of lost its momentum and ruined the game, because the things they nerfed seriously made no sense like IR flare breaking laser locks? laser guided weapon systems aren't even affected by IR flares.

DUST 514= Is University Level FPS gameplay man. This is a thinking mans game with some serious strategizing going on. When your playing against a team with some serious players you either work together or die. This game is the only game that encourages team play because Rock, Paper, Scissors. If your just a long rock your going to get owned.

If you ask me, if you got the balls to hang in Dust, than it kills BF and COD 10 fold.