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Raze galder Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 38	Posted - 2013.05.19 13:36:00 - [1] - Quote If ccp reset everyone back to 500k sp however much money we got and removed everything except aur, skin weave and other suits like it due to the large amount of new players we are getting. And no im not talking constant resets every year cause there will always be new players no way around that im talking one last reset so everyone starts fresh and no more after that barring a major screw up that warrants it. Who would quit or whine on the forums and who would just man up chalk it up to being a good thing and play cause you enjoy the game.
Master Jaraiya Ultramarine Corp Orion Empire 68	Posted - 2013.05.19 13:38:00 - [2] - Quote This is not the answer. If CCP did another reset in 2 months we will have the same issues regarding matchmaking that we currently have.
Tectonious Falcon The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION 482	Posted - 2013.05.19 13:38:00 - [3] - Quote Most of us would whine. Open beta was.... Well.... Open. If you guys couldn't bothered joining then, maybe you should just chalk it up to being a good thing and play because you enjoy the game.
Jin Robot Polar Gooks 517	Posted - 2013.05.19 13:39:00 - [4] - Quote Moot point, its not happening
TheAmazing FlyingPig Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 321	Posted - 2013.05.19 13:42:00 - [5] - Quote I'd still play. It's not happening though.
Raze galder Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 39	Posted - 2013.05.19 13:56:00 - [6] - Quote Tectonious Falcon wrote: Most of us would whine. Open beta was.... Well.... Open. If you guys couldn't bothered joining then, maybe you should just chalk it up to being a good thing and play because you enjoy the game. I do took a break for a bit but yea i play cause i enjoy it
Raze galder Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 39	Posted - 2013.05.19 14:00:00 - [7] - Quote Master Jaraiya wrote: This is not the answer. If CCP did another reset in 2 months we will have the same issues regarding matchmaking that we currently have. What do u think they should do so as not to get proto vs scrub matches?
Panther Alpha WarRavens 239	Posted - 2013.05.19 14:03:00 - [8] - Quote I do it in a flash ... and i have 5 million SP, and i don't care if i lose all of it. I'm 100% convince, that we need this to balance the game, the SP caps are to big right now.
Jin Robot Polar Gooks 517	Posted - 2013.05.19 14:12:00 - [9] - Quote Panther Alpha wrote: I do it in a flash ... and i have 5 million SP, and i don't care if i lose all of it. I'm 100% convince, that we need this to balance the game, the SP caps are to big right now. What do we do in a year when someone joins the game? There will always be a gap.
DigiOps Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 258	Posted - 2013.05.19 14:12:00 - [10] - Quote Raze galder wrote: Master Jaraiya wrote: This is not the answer. If CCP did another reset in 2 months we will have the same issues regarding matchmaking that we currently have. What do u think they should do so as not to get proto vs scrub matches? Best answer to that question I've ever seen was gear restrictions in instant battles. We could all just start going murder taxi so when the protobears do come out to play, we just make a joint effort to run them over. I'm kinda surprised protostomping is still a thing. Wouldn't it get boring after a while? It kinda seems more like using your SP as a crutch rather actually being good. As far as the debate over a reset, I'd be fine with it. Granted, it would set me back four months on my skill planner. I'm surprised they didn't just wipe everyone when the beta was over. Most games I've actually been in betas for did. Should we have this debate every time we expect new players, though?

Deskalkulos Ildigan CrimeWave Syndicate 125	Posted - 2013.05.19 14:14:00 - [11] - Quote Won't be happening (and i am actually really grateful for it - Can't be arsed to yet again save months worth of SP to get all the triage equipment and minmatar proto suit). As mentioned already on multiple occasions, a reset won't do jack. People with aurum will be back on pubstomping proto levels in no time, and then you have a largely pissed-off group that has lost ~10m in SP to some people on the Forum who then would be confronted with the "where is your fantastic balanced world now" New players already are "protected" by the newb matchmaking (unless i am wrong and the mechanic hasn't been activated yet), which will ensure that those newbies will have a sufficient amount of SP before they play with the "big guys".
Panther Alpha WarRavens 239	Posted - 2013.05.19 14:16:00 - [12] - Quote Jin Robot wrote: Panther Alpha wrote: I do it in a flash ... and i have 5 million SP, and i don't care if i lose all of it. I'm 100% convince, that we need this to balance the game, the SP caps are to big right now. What do we do in a year when someone joins the game? There will always be a gap. True.. but hopefully by then, we will have a fully working Planetary Conquest game mode, so people with Pro gear will have not reason to go to PUB matches.
Spademan The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 77	Posted - 2013.05.19 14:19:00 - [13] - Quote They have the answer, the academy, the just need to expand on it
Raze galder Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 39	Posted - 2013.05.19 14:21:00 - [14] - Quote Deskalkulos Ildigan wrote: Won't be happening (and i am actually really grateful for it - Can't be arsed to yet again save months worth of SP to get all the triage equipment and minmatar proto suit). As mentioned already on multiple occasions, a reset won't do jack. People with aurum will be back on pubstomping proto levels in no time, and then you have a largely pissed-off group that has lost ~10m in SP to some people on the Forum who then would be confronted with the "where is your fantastic balanced world now" New players already are "protected" by the newb matchmaking (unless i am wrong and the mechanic hasn't been activated yet), which will ensure that those newbies will have a sufficient amount of SP before they play with the "big guys". academy mode is were u first start when your new your there until u hit 10,000 wp then your thrust into a world of death
flesth Red Star. EoN. 30	Posted - 2013.05.19 14:23:00 - [15] - Quote oh well, look like i waste passive booster if that the case.
Master Jaraiya Ultramarine Corp Orion Empire 68	Posted - 2013.05.19 14:29:00 - [16] - Quote Raze galder wrote: Master Jaraiya wrote: This is not the answer. If CCP did another reset in 2 months we will have the same issues regarding matchmaking that we currently have. What do u think they should do so as not to get proto vs scrub matches? look here: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=75463&p=13 get behind this idea!
Raze galder Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 39	Posted - 2013.05.19 14:31:00 - [17] - Quote flesth wrote: oh well, look like i waste passive booster if that the case. why would it be a waste?
Master Jaraiya Ultramarine Corp Orion Empire 68	Posted - 2013.05.19 14:32:00 - [18] - Quote Panther Alpha wrote: Jin Robot wrote: Panther Alpha wrote: I do it in a flash ... and i have 5 million SP, and i don't care if i lose all of it. I'm 100% convince, that we need this to balance the game, the SP caps are to big right now. What do we do in a year when someone joins the game? There will always be a gap. True.. but hopefully by then, we will have a fully working Planetary Conquest game mode, so people with Pro gear will have not reason to go to PUB matches. Some corps have openly stated they are not interested in owning any districts. Pubstompers only pubstomp because there is nothing to directly prevent them from doing so. You can throw as many different playable "game modes" in as you want but unless you prohibit pubstomping there are those who will do it just to pad their character bio, and get easy SP and ISK.
Laheon Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 563	Posted - 2013.05.19 14:37:00 - [19] - Quote For OP, an SP reset is a horrible idea. Vets always have an edge over newberries. They have more experience at using the weapons, they have more experience on the maps. They also have more experience working in teams. They know what counters what. You say you've been playing since open beta - create a new character and play in the battle academy. See how well you do. What you're asking for will just make newberries complain. All the vets WILL beat them down due to them being more experienced.
UK-Shots Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 67	Posted - 2013.05.19 14:38:00 - [20] - Quote i probably wouldnt bother to play again...i only have 3k sp. i would feel bad for the people with alot more

flesth Red Star. EoN. 30	Posted - 2013.05.19 14:44:00 - [21] - Quote Raze galder wrote: flesth wrote: oh well, look like i waste passive booster if that the case. why would it be a waste? i been spending passive booster since join dust and you guys want it to reset back to beginning ? like 500k i got over 9mill just over 4 months since i joined and work hard grinding for it , i not grinding again , new players come in every day , week , month because we need to be on same level? CCP should fix this for new players, there should be level that we can join ,like click on lvl 2 is you know only standard suit & weapons lvl 1 mode battle only adv suit & weapons lvl 2 mode battle only proto suit & weapons lvl 3 mode battle any mode battle any suit & weapons whatever lvl 4 mode battle like now just an idea
BASSMEANT ZionTCD Unclaimed. 251	Posted - 2013.05.19 14:48:00 - [22] - Quote they'd quit: if there was a chance that these folks would have to gain their suits in the same time period as anyone else, then you would find out most of em are using the suits not because they earned em, but because they need em. but i still predict at some point there will be a patch that is big enough to mandate a reset and if it's a big enough draw for the masses that aren't here already, the few thousand that are here will get the old "oh well... SEE ya!" Peace B
Jin Robot Polar Gooks 517	Posted - 2013.05.19 14:53:00 - [23] - Quote BASSMEANT wrote: they'd quit: if there was a chance that these folks would have to gain their suits in the same time period as anyone else, then you would find out most of em are using the suits not because they earned em, but because they need em. but i still predict at some point there will be a patch that is big enough to mandate a reset and if it's a big enough draw for the masses that aren't here already, the few thousand that are here will get the old "oh well... SEE ya!" Peace B For me I would step away for awhile. What people dont seem to be aware of is that a lot of us have built from the ground up multiple times for a year. Fatigue. I want to move forward, I have already "started fresh" and not quit multiple times.
BASSMEANT ZionTCD Unclaimed. 252	Posted - 2013.05.20 15:03:00 - [24] - Quote yeah but the main issue is that most of the folks with protoad gear are the same folks who claim the militia ar had too much range. if you take away their gear and they have to start over without the ability to have that leg up over the masses, then it all comes down to player skill.... individual player skill. and that would be bad for them and their ego. so you can't. Peace B
Infekti0n One-Armed Bandits Unclaimed. 34	Posted - 2013.05.20 15:06:00 - [25] - Quote ''If CCP resets the SP'' This game would be dead within a week.
BASSMEANT ZionTCD Unclaimed. 252	Posted - 2013.05.20 15:51:00 - [26] - Quote "''If CCP resets the SP'' This game would be dead within a week." exactly: all the proto gear users, well say, roughly 80% of em can't play this game without that gear. but even more important... they need you to NOT have that gear. it's no fun for them to go into a pub room unless there is a 2% chance of them actually having to deal with a real fight. as long as they can redline everyone in a 1:30, then this game is fine the way it is and there is nothing wrong. if you damage their egos, this game is broken, sucks, etc. see if you get a chance to have that gear at the same time as them... or even worse, the ultimate terror, some of you will get it before they do... my god. they would run the risk of getting stomped. and like the dude said, if that happened, these quitters would be outta here so fast, sand so deep in vage that by the time it came out, it would be a pearl. can't have that. so probably no reset. Peace B
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 2375	Posted - 2013.05.20 16:02:00 - [27] - Quote This is a stupid thread to be honest with you. Not only stupid but completely pointless to talk about even if the question was hypothetical because CCP has already officially confirmed multiple times in multiple threads and dev blogs that there will be NO MORE RESETS unless something catastrophic were to occur such as loss of data, natural disaster destroying the servers and their backup, etc. CCP has made one exception to the rule of course. If you purchases mercenary packs from the PSN before Dust went into Open Beta or if you purchased mercenary packs from Gamestop before May 14, you are given two options. You can keep your stats but not get the refund or you can accept the refund but have your stats wiped out and start all over. Beyond that, there is no point in discussing this further even if we are talking about a hypothetical scenario that is completely unlikely to happen.
Delirium Inferno Edoras Corporation 334	Posted - 2013.05.20 16:21:00 - [28] - Quote This already happened back in January. January was really the public release of Dust 514, even if it wasn't the official release. And like you said, there will always be new players. Doing a complete reset now would make as much sense as doing a complete reset a year from now.
Road Hawk Phantom Universe Task Force Orion Empire 17	Posted - 2013.05.20 16:38:00 - [29] - Quote What for should CCP make a complete reset??? for the people what starting now??? everyone was possible to start with the open Beta on 22th january and short before was the last complete reset. yessss.... also lets make reset next year for the people which starting at this time....... never heard bigger bull....
Richard Sebire Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 21	Posted - 2013.05.20 16:39:00 - [30] - Quote If you don't know, you have till Wednesday to get your tickets in for either a account reset or a sp reset. After Wednesday, beta over! No more resets ever. When the Mecs or even after that when the Attack Aircraft come, there will still be no resets. The game comes out on Wednesday.



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