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Panther Alpha WarRavens 238	Posted - 2013.05.19 10:22:00 - [31] - Quote They already tried to Nerf the AR allot, High Recoil, low range, ridiculous bullet spread when moving and soothing. And people still uses the AR, and have lots of fun with it... I think CCP is getting the message now... PEOPLE PREFERS TO USE THE AR, because they like that weapon the most. Ok, the TAC needs a little nerf, "little" nerf ... but leave the AR alone, or allot of people will leave Dust 514.
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon Plus 334	Posted - 2013.05.19 10:53:00 - [32] - Quote Panther Alpha wrote: They already tried to Nerf the AR allot, High Recoil, low range, ridiculous bullet spread when moving and soothing. And people still uses the AR, and have lots of fun with it... I think CCP is getting the message now... PEOPLE PREFERS TO USE THE AR, because they like that weapon the most. Ok, the TAC needs a little nerf, "little" nerf ... but leave the AR alone, or allot of people will leave Dust 514. TAC needs more than a 'little' nerf. It should keep its role as long range semiauto, yes, but the firerate and CQC ability is completely ridiculous. And hell, the damage is over the top too. The TAC is better than the scrambler rifle in every way except that it doesn't have a charge ability.
Panther Alpha WarRavens 238	Posted - 2013.05.19 10:59:00 - [33] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Panther Alpha wrote: They already tried to Nerf the AR allot, High Recoil, low range, ridiculous bullet spread when moving and soothing. And people still uses the AR, and have lots of fun with it... I think CCP is getting the message now... PEOPLE PREFERS TO USE THE AR, because they like that weapon the most. Ok, the TAC needs a little nerf, "little" nerf ... but leave the AR alone, or allot of people will leave Dust 514. TAC needs more than a 'little' nerf. It should keep its role as long range semiauto, yes, but the firerate and CQC ability is completely ridiculous. And hell, the damage is over the top too. The TAC is better than the scrambler rifle in every way except that it doesn't have a charge ability. I totally agree.. i stop using the TAC, because i feel like a NooB using it. But i say a "Little" nerf, because when CCP nerf things, is always over the top, and to the point where they make that weapon useless.
Harkon Vysarii Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 303	Posted - 2013.05.19 11:02:00 - [34] - Quote Panther Alpha wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Panther Alpha wrote: They already tried to Nerf the AR allot, High Recoil, low range, ridiculous bullet spread when moving and soothing. And people still uses the AR, and have lots of fun with it... I think CCP is getting the message now... PEOPLE PREFERS TO USE THE AR, because they like that weapon the most. Ok, the TAC needs a little nerf, "little" nerf ... but leave the AR alone, or allot of people will leave Dust 514. TAC needs more than a 'little' nerf. It should keep its role as long range semiauto, yes, but the firerate and CQC ability is completely ridiculous. And hell, the damage is over the top too. The TAC is better than the scrambler rifle in every way except that it doesn't have a charge ability. I totally agree.. i stop using the TAC, because i feel like a NooB using it. But i say a "Little" nerf, because when CCP nerf things, is always over the top, and to the point where they make that weapon useless. Yeah as much as I like the SR I dont want everyone defactoing to it because the Tac came under the nerf hammer....
flesth Red Star. EoN. 30	Posted - 2013.05.19 11:09:00 - [35] - Quote everything is fine , i am not moaning about my hmg range but i got used to it and you guys should get used to it to CCP if you buff them what they want , then i want m0re range for HMG then everything fine , then there be some QQ about ar users that they want range too and everything will get unbalance and then it going around in circle again
J-Lewis Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 89	Posted - 2013.05.19 11:35:00 - [36] - Quote IDK, I've gone 27/9 with a standard Scrambler Rifle and suit against prototype users... IMO while the aSCAR in particular needs some love, the cSCAR is slightly OP in the ammo consumption department; charged shots should eat more ammo than single shots (4 for a fully charged shot seems reasonable). Both could use a buff in the shape of the operation bonus being changed to a reduction in heat generated per shot; and range mechanics being looked at, plus a slight increase in optimal range. Apart from that, you can't use the SCAR like a regular AR: while the AR is a mainly offense oriented weapon, the SCAR is more defensive; you have to let the enemies come to you, as it generally requires more careful aim than the AR. It can also be used on a scout for rather effective skirmish tactics (charged head shots are excellent).
Jathniel G I A N T EoN. 366	Posted - 2013.05.19 11:57:00 - [37] - Quote I can honestly say the Plasma Cannon is the most useless piece of ** weapon in this game. You have a higher kill chance, and higher survival-by-use chance using a pair of nova knives. The puny blast yield combined with poor splash damage couldn't even finish off a guy with less than 10% shield and 10% armor. For a single shot weapon... that is terribly poor. "But the power is in the direct hit!" Really now? Aim at a guy. The projectile is SO slow, he can sidestep and polish the round with a washing rag by the time it goes by! "But it's AV!" Is that right? Good luck hitting a LAV with that poor slow round. A forge gun outdps' and outdmgs this thing in every way imaginable. Try to hit a Dropship with this piece of **, and watch everyone in the match laugh at you. Thank goodness I didn't waste skill points.
Crash Monster Snipers Anonymous 300	Posted - 2013.05.19 12:41:00 - [38] - Quote I'm not seeing any love in here for the sniper rifle.
Heathen Bastard Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 275	Posted - 2013.05.19 12:43:00 - [39] - Quote I use an LAV, does that count? it is a Light vehicle, so I think it does.
WyrmHero1945 SyNergy Gaming EoN. 287	Posted - 2013.05.19 15:09:00 - [40] - Quote Panther Alpha wrote: They already tried to Nerf the AR allot, High Recoil, low range, ridiculous bullet spread when moving and soothing. And people still uses the AR, and have lots of fun with it... I think CCP is getting the message now... PEOPLE PREFERS TO USE THE AR, because they like that weapon the most. Ok, the TAC needs a little nerf, "little" nerf ... but leave the AR alone, or allot of people will leave Dust 514. This why we aren't asking for an AR nerf, but a buff to all our weapons. The hard job for CCP really.

Spademan The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 77	Posted - 2013.05.19 15:19:00 - [41] - Quote Personally, I think the scrambler rifle needs a little more range, not much, just enough to out range the at. I think giving the plasma cannon a trajectory was a mistake. MR needs to be back how it was, it wasn't broken, why fix it?
DeadlyAztec11 One-Armed Bandits Unclaimed. 300	Posted - 2013.05.19 15:39:00 - [42] - Quote As far as I am concerned, the LR, AR and SR should all be equal.
WyrmHero1945 SyNergy Gaming EoN. 291	Posted - 2013.05.20 00:20:00 - [43] - Quote How many of you guys are respeccing into ARs because you feel these weapons suck?
Geth Massredux Defensores Doctrina 350	Posted - 2013.05.20 00:22:00 - [44] - Quote face- to the palm.... Wait so I get killed by all the weapons in the game, why do they need a buff again?? - Geth
SCAT mania Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 237	Posted - 2013.05.20 00:26:00 - [45] - Quote WyrmHero1945 wrote: How many of you guys are respeccing into ARs because you feel these weapons suck? was a dedicated LR will be doin this^^ ASAP
Medic 1879 The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION 351	Posted - 2013.05.20 00:54:00 - [46] - Quote Signed I am a MD user and it just seems like any weapons with splash damage has wildly inaccurate blast radius numbers freedom MD 3.3m radius not counting the +25% from operations and yet in game it seems more like its 1m at best, hell I tried the flaylock today and just as a test I shot straight down and took damage I moved onto some stairs stood on the top step and aimed 1 step down and fired and it did nothing I highly doubt the intervals between steps is more than 1m. As for the plasma cannon well its quicker, easier and cheaper (both isk and SP wise.) to just use AV nades for AV and for fighting infantry its like a MD but worse or a sort of weird one shot shotgun. The only use I have found for it is trolling people.
Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 1050	Posted - 2013.05.20 23:31:00 - [47] - Quote WyrmHero1945 wrote: How many of you guys are respeccing into ARs because you feel these weapons suck? How many of us had our weapon nerfed because of an office LAN party?
TEBOW BAGGINS GHETTOSTAR GALACTICA 556	Posted - 2013.05.20 23:40:00 - [48] - Quote I couldn't put the MD down now matter how bad they nerfed it. Should be ok with a couple complex dmg mods on wednesday. Neutron scatter blaster is my new main weapon.
J Falcs Bojo's School of the Trades 39	Posted - 2013.05.20 23:42:00 - [49] - Quote Cosgar wrote: WyrmHero1945 wrote: How many of you guys are respeccing into ARs because you feel these weapons suck? How many of us had our weapon nerfed because of an office LAN party? You had to remind me? Couldn't believe what I was seeing when I read that the first time.
Cyrius Li-Moody The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 79	Posted - 2013.05.20 23:44:00 - [50] - Quote Cosgar wrote: WyrmHero1945 wrote: How many of you guys are respeccing into ARs because you feel these weapons suck? How many of us had our weapon nerfed because of an office LAN party? Are you talking about the MD? That was nerf'd because of a LAN party??

Polish Hammer Conspiratus Immortalis League of Infamy 433	Posted - 2013.05.20 23:47:00 - [51] - Quote Are heavies welcome here? I like my HMG, I just feel like half the time i'm putting on rounds on people they do nothing :(
TEBOW BAGGINS GHETTOSTAR GALACTICA 556	Posted - 2013.05.20 23:47:00 - [52] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: Cosgar wrote: WyrmHero1945 wrote: How many of you guys are respeccing into ARs because you feel these weapons suck? How many of us had our weapon nerfed because of an office LAN party? Are you talking about the MD? That was nerf'd because of a LAN party?? it was a "playtest"
Cyrius Li-Moody The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 80	Posted - 2013.05.20 23:56:00 - [53] - Quote TEBOW BAGGINS wrote: Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: Cosgar wrote: WyrmHero1945 wrote: How many of you guys are respeccing into ARs because you feel these weapons suck? How many of us had our weapon nerfed because of an office LAN party? Are you talking about the MD? That was nerf'd because of a LAN party?? it was a "playtest" Well that's some bullkitten.
WR3CK HAVOC SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 25	Posted - 2013.05.21 00:07:00 - [54] - Quote BUFF SHOTGUN RANGE
TEBOW BAGGINS GHETTOSTAR GALACTICA 560	Posted - 2013.05.21 00:08:00 - [55] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: TEBOW BAGGINS wrote: Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: Cosgar wrote: WyrmHero1945 wrote: How many of you guys are respeccing into ARs because you feel these weapons suck? How many of us had our weapon nerfed because of an office LAN party? Are you talking about the MD? That was nerf'd because of a LAN party?? it was a "playtest" Well that's some bullkitten. it seems to be more effective vs armor than before but not %100 sure, it still can get some kills but nothing like it used to
Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 1054	Posted - 2013.05.21 00:13:00 - [56] - Quote Even if the MD stayed the way it was in chrome, it still wouldn't be able to compete with everyone running proto 24/7. Adding insult to injury, the standard flaylock out damages the freedom.
WyrmHero1945 SyNergy Gaming EoN. 294	Posted - 2013.05.21 04:17:00 - [57] - Quote Polish Hammer wrote: Are heavies welcome here? I like my HMG, I just feel like half the time i'm putting on rounds on people they do nothing :( If you wanna die by different means other than ARs and LAVs heavies are more than welcome. I'm thinking going LAV if this **** doesn't get resolved seriously. I already got a Saga with 2000 HP and could easily get a logi LAV on respec. I kill more with my Saga than with the proto SR.
Ld Collins On The Brink CRONOS. 5	Posted - 2013.05.21 04:24:00 - [58] - Quote Cosgar wrote: WyrmHero1945 wrote: TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote: finally, someone who understands...my carthum assault SR with SR profeciency lvl 3 and a basic dmg mod still doesn't match up to Duvolles. for the SR to have a better accuracy rating than the AR, it has too much kick... I have SR prof. 4 brother and my militia AR gets more kills. I'm pretty sure that outside of spike damage weapons like shotguns, the AR has a higher DPS out of every light weapon in the game, to the point that they're almost novelties, HMG included. You can tell they're basically catering to the BF/CoD crowd. Call it a hunch, but I doubt we'll be seeing a necessary change to the TAR either. Can people stop lumping BF in with the CoD crowd both of those games are completly different from each other BF being the better one. Everytime i hear this i feel like a crime has been committed.
SERPENT-Adamapple Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 43	Posted - 2013.05.21 05:01:00 - [59] - Quote Hey guys, stop saying CCP is catering to the COD/BF community. In those games different weapons are being used all the time. Actually CCP is catering to this community when they decided to buff, nerf, buff the TAC AR and nerf every other weapon in the game listening to whiners and the wrong people. I came to the launch of the open beta from BF3, and I gotta tell ya, I'm starting to get pretty annoyed that all I get killed by is a squad of tac AR users with the occasional mass driver user only because I'm being pinned down by these sniper-light rifles with no other weapon strong and fast enough to counter unless I red line snipe. IMO, the "COD/BF" community likes variety in their gun game. Seeing the same guns all the time on the killspread gets boring. Chromosome showed weapon variety. Uprising introduces new weapons in the new build but none(including old) are balanced to the TAC AR
JETSTORM1090 Against All Oddz 76	Posted - 2013.05.21 05:20:00 - [60] - Quote Zeylon Rho wrote: Scrambler Rifles need a different passive. Their current passive (Charge speed) does nothing for an assault variant. They are the ONLY weapon in the game to have a passive that completely skips over a variant. So, yes, the skill needs a change (which is Scrambler Rifles by extension). I'd recommend reducing heat build-up so Amarr Assaults (with 0 ranks in Scramblers) aren't better at handling them then people with max skill. Exactly what I made a thread about...makes no sense, and they put absolutely no thought into that at all.



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