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Panther Alpha
WarRavens
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Posted - 2013.05.18 09:07:00 -
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I have to say it !! I can't hold it no longer !!
- What happen to PvE for Planetary Conquest ? - Character customization ( Paint shop ) ? - Virtual Environments ? - Game modes ? - Role Play Content ? - Weapon modding, customization, and damage variants ? - Vehicles variants ( Attack Dropships, jets, support, tactical ) - Active Player to player market ?
And so on... Do CCP toke a wrong turn some where ? Is CCP just trying to please a very specific group of people ?
Hint; The current Planetary Conquest ( VIP game mode ) |
JL3Eleven
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
407
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Posted - 2013.05.18 09:12:00 -
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Don't worry CCP gave you bushes to hide behind so now everything will be all better |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.05.18 09:16:00 -
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They never said this stuff was coming by release, its all on the the roadmap. |
2100 Angels
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.05.18 09:16:00 -
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Are you serious? none of this was announced for release.. It was announced for "in the future".
1) Watch the fanfest recordings
2) Core gameplay comes before content. |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
1000
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Posted - 2013.05.18 09:18:00 -
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soo- eventual- when we get around to itGäó |
Herli Pascal
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2013.05.18 09:19:00 -
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First of all, this:
2100 Angels wrote: 2) Core gameplay comes before content.
Second, this game has been only in open to the public for a few month. Give it some time. Keep bugging CCP but be patient. |
Vince Hardy
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.18 09:23:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:I have to say it !! I can't hold it no longer !!
- What happen to PvE for Planetary Conquest ? - Character customization ( Paint shop ) ? - Virtual Environments ? - Game modes ? - Role Play Content ? - Weapon modding, customization, and damage variants ? - Vehicles variants ( Attack Dropships, jets, support, tactical ) - Active Player to player market ?
And so on... Do CCP toke a wrong turn some where ? Is CCP just trying to please a very specific group of people ?
Hint; The current Planetary Conquest ( VIP game mode )
Patience my good brother....patience. As Dust514 is here to stay and evolve for next 10+ years, you will see a lot to be released and developed for this shooter title for many upcoming years.
As always, haters gonna hate and fanboys gonna fan, but that's free will - everything is in perfect order |
Panther Alpha
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Posted - 2013.05.18 09:24:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:They never said this stuff was coming by release, its all on the the roadmap.
Oh! Come on ! you trying to say that CCP spend the entire open beta, just making better graphics, and a VIP game mode ?
Sorry...but is very hard to defend this BS.. and believe me.. i been trying, but is the 18th now... 4 days since release...96 Hours... 5760 Minutes...345600 seconds |
Spaceman-Rob
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.18 09:24:00 -
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Didn't you know? CCP are great at talking the talk. |
Talruum Tezztarozza
Seraphim Auxiliaries CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.05.18 09:41:00 -
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Not a wrong turn, simply a mislabel. They haven't nearly finished the game, yet they call it released anyway. Not that it make much different, it is a free to play game after all. |
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Panther Alpha
WarRavens
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Posted - 2013.05.18 09:46:00 -
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Talruum Tezztarozza wrote:Not a wrong turn, simply a mislabel. They haven't nearly finished the game, yet they call it released anyway. Not that it make much different, it is a free to play game after all.
A Free to Play game, needs to make cash too...It is a business after all, not charity. |
Talruum Tezztarozza
Seraphim Auxiliaries CRONOS.
126
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Posted - 2013.05.18 09:58:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:A Free to Play game, needs to make cash too...It is a business after all, not charity. They started making cash ever since they sell merc pack back in closed beta. I believe we agree with each other that the game is not damn near finish. I simply say they should hide behind the beta tag for awhile longer. Until it is in more acceptable state. |
Olaf the Gutless
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.05.18 10:16:00 -
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Hey dude I was annoyed to when I realized PC was VIP! I just rolled myself a taste of something green and golden and glorious to get me through the day... |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
1003
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Posted - 2013.05.18 11:19:00 -
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Talruum Tezztarozza wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:A Free to Play game, needs to make cash too...It is a business after all, not charity. They started making cash ever since they sell merc pack back in closed beta. I believe we agree with each other that the game is not damn near finish. I simply say they should hide behind the beta tag for awhile longer. Until it is in more acceptable state. EVE Online makes more than enough money to fund Dust 514, even without including the RMT market. |
Panther Alpha
WarRavens
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Posted - 2013.05.18 11:26:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Talruum Tezztarozza wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:A Free to Play game, needs to make cash too...It is a business after all, not charity. They started making cash ever since they sell merc pack back in closed beta. I believe we agree with each other that the game is not damn near finish. I simply say they should hide behind the beta tag for awhile longer. Until it is in more acceptable state. EVE Online makes more than enough money to fund Dust 514, even without including the RMT market.
So we just let the EvE players pay for Dust ? and let them dictate how the game should be ? when the majority of them don't even play Dust their self ?
I prefer to pay for Dust myself, and let the DUST players dictate how the game should be... after all, we are the ones playing the game, not them. |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
1004
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Posted - 2013.05.18 11:30:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:Cosgar wrote:Talruum Tezztarozza wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:A Free to Play game, needs to make cash too...It is a business after all, not charity. They started making cash ever since they sell merc pack back in closed beta. I believe we agree with each other that the game is not damn near finish. I simply say they should hide behind the beta tag for awhile longer. Until it is in more acceptable state. EVE Online makes more than enough money to fund Dust 514, even without including the RMT market. So we just let the EvE players pay for Dust ? and let them dictate how the game should be ? when the majority of them don't even play Dust their self ? I prefer to pay for Dust myself, and let the DUST players dictate how the game should be... after all, we are the ones playing the game, not them. Nobody dictates how this game should be, except CCP. The point that I was making is that even if none of us invested a penny into the game, EVE covers the cost of resources easily. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
3905
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Posted - 2013.05.18 11:41:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:They never said this stuff was coming by release, its all on the the roadmap. Oh! Come on ! you trying to say that CCP spend the entire open beta, just making better graphics, and a VIP game mode ? Sorry...but is very hard to defend this BS.. and believe me.. i been trying, but is the 18th now... 4 days since release...96 Hours... 5760 Minutes...345600 seconds
3 new weapon types, added 3 new racial dropsuit models, revamped skill system, revamped UI, fixed bugs, added 2 new maps, revamped character creation, spawn cloaking, revamped dropsuit system, bunch of other stuff. Furthermore, it is likely that they did work on other things like PVE, but didn't get it to a point where it was ready to release (they said before PVE is working internally). Go here and read if you think PC and graphics are the only things new.
The game being released or not is only a marketing thing, it doesn't actually affect the pace of development. They're still working on things just as much as before, and will continue to do so for years.
Whether or not you think its a VIP mode, planetary conquest adds persistence to Dust which is something that;s very important in an MMO.
That being said, I am disappointed the game did not launch with PVE and at least one unique PVP mode (Skirmish 1.0). |
Karl Koekwaus
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.05.18 12:22:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:I have to say it !! I can't hold it no longer !!
- What happen to PvE for Planetary Conquest ? - Character customization ( Paint shop ) ? - Virtual Environments ? - Game modes ? - Role Play Content ? - Weapon modding, customization, and damage variants ? - Vehicles variants ( Attack Dropships, jets, support, tactical ) - Active Player to player market ?
And so on... Do CCP toke a wrong turn some where ? Is CCP just trying to please a very specific group of people ?
Hint; The current Planetary Conquest ( VIP game mode )
I WANT EVERYTHING AND I WANT IT YESTERDAY |
Frontline Medic
On-Sight-Response
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Posted - 2013.05.18 12:22:00 -
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hoping the game devs arint takeing pages out of the Fable playbook,all the things the devs of that game had told us and we know how that worked out for them lol. |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
1004
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Posted - 2013.05.18 12:24:00 -
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Frontline Medic wrote:hoping the game devs arint takeing pages out of the Fable playbook,all the things the devs of that game had told us and we know how that worked out for them lol. Dust has already surpassed Fable in delivery because they actually delivered something. |
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Jaron Pollard
Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated
63
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Posted - 2013.05.18 12:28:00 -
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2100 Angels wrote:Are you serious? none of this was announced for release.. It was announced for "in the future".
1) Watch the fanfest recordings
2) Core gameplay comes before content.
This. CCP have tried the "content before core gameplay" before. It was called Incarna, and it ended badly. Both players and devs learned a valuable lesson that day about priorities. Enjoy what it has, look forward to what's to come, and by all means, criticise what's wrong, and keep CCP honest, but people need to stop expecting everything to magically be handed to them right now on a free to play game. It's like getting a new Ferrari for Christmas and then complaining that you didn't get a Porsche as well. |
Panther Alpha
WarRavens
233
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Posted - 2013.05.18 12:28:00 -
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Karl Koekwaus wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:I have to say it !! I can't hold it no longer !!
- What happen to PvE for Planetary Conquest ? - Character customization ( Paint shop ) ? - Virtual Environments ? - Game modes ? - Role Play Content ? - Weapon modding, customization, and damage variants ? - Vehicles variants ( Attack Dropships, jets, support, tactical ) - Active Player to player market ?
And so on... Do CCP toke a wrong turn some where ? Is CCP just trying to please a very specific group of people ?
Hint; The current Planetary Conquest ( VIP game mode ) I WANT EVERYTHING AND I WANT IT YESTERDAY
All this things have been said for long time... and not days, but "months". One of the biggest features of the Planetary Conquest, was supposed to be PVE... and i talking about Longggg time ago. |
Jaron Pollard
Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated
63
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Posted - 2013.05.18 12:31:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:Cosgar wrote:Talruum Tezztarozza wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:A Free to Play game, needs to make cash too...It is a business after all, not charity. They started making cash ever since they sell merc pack back in closed beta. I believe we agree with each other that the game is not damn near finish. I simply say they should hide behind the beta tag for awhile longer. Until it is in more acceptable state. EVE Online makes more than enough money to fund Dust 514, even without including the RMT market. So we just let the EvE players pay for Dust ? and let them dictate how the game should be ? when the majority of them don't even play Dust their self ? I prefer to pay for Dust myself, and let the DUST players dictate how the game should be... after all, we are the ones playing the game, not them.
Buddy, if you want to dictate how a game should be, go and develop your own. And make no mistake, there are many an EVE player on DUST right now. |
Panther Alpha
WarRavens
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Posted - 2013.05.18 12:33:00 -
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Jaron Pollard wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:Cosgar wrote:Talruum Tezztarozza wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:A Free to Play game, needs to make cash too...It is a business after all, not charity. They started making cash ever since they sell merc pack back in closed beta. I believe we agree with each other that the game is not damn near finish. I simply say they should hide behind the beta tag for awhile longer. Until it is in more acceptable state. EVE Online makes more than enough money to fund Dust 514, even without including the RMT market. So we just let the EvE players pay for Dust ? and let them dictate how the game should be ? when the majority of them don't even play Dust their self ? I prefer to pay for Dust myself, and let the DUST players dictate how the game should be... after all, we are the ones playing the game, not them. Buddy, if you want to dictate how a game should be, go and develop your own. And make no mistake, there are many an EVE player on DUST right now.
Yeah.. because my name is " Dust Players ", you can call me Dustpla for short. |
Dusty Nelson
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
15
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Posted - 2013.05.18 12:41:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:They never said this stuff was coming by release, its all on the the roadmap.
Yeap that what CCP said. They didn't promise none of all that stuff at release.
When EVE began, more than 90% the stuff in the game now wasn't there at release back in 2003. Why everyone wants everything in DUST to be here RIGHT NOW. If that was so, they be nothing else to add to the game and you get bored that they aren't adding nothing new. |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
1005
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Posted - 2013.05.18 12:44:00 -
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OP, you're kind of missing the issue. You, like a lot of our playerbase are looking at Dust 514 without realizing that this is a) a MMOFPS, b) a free to play MMOFPS, and c) a free to play MMOFPS built for the long run. Of course there isn't a lot of content available right now, no MMO, RPG or otherwise ever has a vast amount of content available because they're made to be built on after an extended period of time. This isn't one of thos AAA floozies that puts out when you flash $60 and another $40 to have their sister DLC come over too. Dust is that girl you see at a party, she may not be a supermodel, but she's still pretty. You talk to her for a bit, get her number, get to know her, date her for a while and.... you get the point. Dust 514 is a commitment, and like fine wine, it will continue to get better and better. Just gotta be patient. |
Dusty Nelson
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
15
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Posted - 2013.05.18 12:46:00 -
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Jaron Pollard wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:Cosgar wrote:Talruum Tezztarozza wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:A Free to Play game, needs to make cash too...It is a business after all, not charity. They started making cash ever since they sell merc pack back in closed beta. I believe we agree with each other that the game is not damn near finish. I simply say they should hide behind the beta tag for awhile longer. Until it is in more acceptable state. EVE Online makes more than enough money to fund Dust 514, even without including the RMT market. So we just let the EvE players pay for Dust ? and let them dictate how the game should be ? when the majority of them don't even play Dust their self ? I prefer to pay for Dust myself, and let the DUST players dictate how the game should be... after all, we are the ones playing the game, not them. Buddy, if you want to dictate how a game should be, go and develop your own. And make no mistake, there are many an EVE player on DUST right now.
+10 on the last quote! Years of EVE Development paid and paved the way for DUST to get developed.
Its funny how players can feel so entitled in a game when they are playing for Free! But CCP has to pay they employees and they don't work for Free. Someone else has paved the way for those employees to be paid and it didn't come from DUST.
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Panther Alpha
WarRavens
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Posted - 2013.05.18 12:46:00 -
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Dusty Nelson wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:They never said this stuff was coming by release, its all on the the roadmap. Yeap that what CCP said. They didn't promise none of all that stuff at release. When EVE began, more than 90% the stuff in the game now wasn't there at release back in 2003. Why everyone wants everything in DUST to be here RIGHT NOW. If that was so, they be nothing else to add to the game and you get bored that they aren't adding nothing new.
I getting bored because nothing is new.... |
Frontline Medic
On-Sight-Response
24
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Posted - 2013.05.18 12:51:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Frontline Medic wrote:hoping the game devs arint takeing pages out of the Fable playbook,all the things the devs of that game had told us and we know how that worked out for them lol. Dust has already surpassed Fable in delivery because they actually delivered something. and dust is actually fun But I hope you understand my point.Big talk is nothing with out action. |
Panther Alpha
WarRavens
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Posted - 2013.05.18 12:54:00 -
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Dusty Nelson wrote:[quote=Jaron Pollard][quote=Panther Alpha][quote=Cosgar]
+10 on the last quote! Years of EVE Development paid and paved the way for DUST to get developed.
Its funny how players can feel so entitled in a game when they are playing for Free! But CCP has to pay they employees and they don't work for Free. Someone else has paved the way for those employees to be paid and it didn't come from DUST.
That is like saying:
EA games should be like Mass Effect all the time, because is their most successful game.... The should make Sport games that play like Mass Effect !! The Sims should be like Mass Effect ! .... you see how stupid that sounds ? |
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