DUST Search - Dust 514 Wrong turn ?

Laheon wrote:

People don't particularly understand CCP's development structure. Or, they don't know. So here's some enlightenment.

CCP have a lot of different teams working on different content. For example, Team True Grit (for DUST) is working on PC. Another team will be working on PvE. Another team will be working on dropsuits and vehicles. Another will be working on a general GPU/UI optimisation.

Just because you haven't heard anything, or it hasn't come in, doesn't mean that CCP aren't, and haven't been, working on it.

CCP have said multiples times that they'll put in content when it's ready to be put in. These things take time. Animating the Rogue Drones for PvP can take a lot of time to get right, to make it look "realistic". It's not as if it takes a two week adjustment of existing features, and then it's ready. It's a whole new game mode. CoD release the same game every year, and in that year all they do is tweak MP slightly, write a new SP story that lasts about 20 hours, and design a few maps.

CCP, on the other hand, has (perhaps) at least 20 game modes they want to put in, including PvE modes, a lot more topologically-accurate maps, seven more planet types, four more types of vehicles, a lot of racial vehicles and weapons, etc, etc.

Give it some time, and be patient.

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pwnzortank Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 3	Posted - 2013.05.18 13:42:00 - [31] - Quote their first goal is to make the game unplayable then you'll get those fancy spinning rims you kids like
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. CRONOS. 1564	Posted - 2013.05.18 14:00:00 - [32] - Quote Panther Alpha wrote: I have to say it !! I can't hold it no longer !! - What happen to PvE for Planetary Conquest ? - Character customization ( Paint shop ) ? - Virtual Environments ? - Game modes ? - Role Play Content ? - Weapon modding, customization, and damage variants ? - Vehicles variants ( Attack Dropships, jets, support, tactical ) - Active Player to player market ? And so on... Do CCP toke a wrong turn some where ? Is CCP just trying to please a very specific group of people ? Hint; The current Planetary Conquest ( VIP game mode ) VIP game mode? Who are the VIPs you're referring to?
Jayquan18 The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION 81	Posted - 2013.05.18 14:00:00 - [33] - Quote Panther Alpha wrote: I have to say it !! I can't hold it no longer !! - What happen to PvE for Planetary Conquest ? - Character customization ( Paint shop ) ? - Virtual Environments ? - Game modes ? - Role Play Content ? - Weapon modding, customization, and damage variants ? - Vehicles variants ( Attack Dropships, jets, support, tactical ) - Active Player to player market ? And so on... Do CCP toke a wrong turn some where ? Is CCP just trying to please a very specific group of people ? Hint; The current Planetary Conquest ( VIP game mode ) Better yet WTF happen to the 48 player battles they promised us since early beta.
Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 1009	Posted - 2013.05.18 14:10:00 - [34] - Quote Frontline Medic wrote: Cosgar wrote: Frontline Medic wrote: hoping the game devs arint takeing pages out of the Fable playbook,all the things the devs of that game had told us and we know how that worked out for them lol. Dust has already surpassed Fable in delivery because they actually delivered something. and dust is actually fun But I hope you understand my point.Big talk is nothing with out action. EVE Online started off as a spreadsheet and a screensaver. Look at how big it is after 10 years. Watch how much Dust changes a year from now. I bet it won't look like the same game.
CrotchGrab 360 Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 52	Posted - 2013.05.18 14:12:00 - [35] - Quote so you just want a lot of new features to come out, be broken and have CCP work on fixing 20 things instead of tweaking, balancing and improving the core gameplay? ok...
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. CRONOS. 1564	Posted - 2013.05.18 14:14:00 - [36] - Quote CrotchGrab 360 wrote: so you just want a lot of new features to come out, be broken and have CCP work on fixing 20 things instead of tweaking, balancing and improving the core gameplay? ok... Exactly. Remember a few years back when they said they were going to move away from developing in "Cowboy Mode"? This is an example of that.
BASSMEANT ZionTCD Unclaimed. 243	Posted - 2013.05.18 14:21:00 - [37] - Quote it's not an MMO quit calling it that. at BEST it's a PFPS = persistant first person shooter. barely that... barely. but it's nowhere near an mmo. playstation home is more of an mmo then 514. Peace B
Jin Robot Polar Gooks 507	Posted - 2013.05.18 14:23:00 - [38] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: CrotchGrab 360 wrote: so you just want a lot of new features to come out, be broken and have CCP work on fixing 20 things instead of tweaking, balancing and improving the core gameplay? ok... Exactly. Remember a few years back when they said they were going to move away from developing in "Cowboy Mode"? This is an example of that. Slow and steady, if it has to be that way to start, is better than fast and reckless. Everyone just needs to settle down. If we get bored, step away and let the SP still accrue and come back, new stuff will be released on the regular.
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. CRONOS. 1564	Posted - 2013.05.18 14:28:00 - [39] - Quote Jin Robot wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: CrotchGrab 360 wrote: so you just want a lot of new features to come out, be broken and have CCP work on fixing 20 things instead of tweaking, balancing and improving the core gameplay? ok... Exactly. Remember a few years back when they said they were going to move away from developing in "Cowboy Mode"? This is an example of that. Slow and steady, if it has to be that way to start, is better than fast and reckless. Everyone just needs to settle down. If we get bored, step away and let the SP still accrue and come back, new stuff will be released on the regular. That's what you all keep forgetting. This game is a lot like EVE in that you can leave whenever you want, and come back whenever you want. Whenever you come back, you'll have plenty of skillpoints waiting for you.
CrotchGrab 360 Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 52	Posted - 2013.05.18 14:32:00 - [40] - Quote this is my thought on all this. people requesting this much new stuff are impatient. furthermore they are obviously unsatisfied with the current gameplay and think they know what is needed in order to make it fun for them. Fact of the matter is, those people will never be satisfied, they will keep asking for more stuff and it will just end up being a big waste of time. What the focus should be is what people are enjoying but not enjoying as much as they should be, not on filling the game full of new features... really if you want THAT MUCH new stuff then this game obviously isn't for you if what DUST has to offer already isn't enough. I suppose you could argue and say you've played it for a year and fair enough if you have but I think my thoughts still hold some value! CCP are hopefully working on what;'s important right now, making squads face squads, randoms face randoms and aiming!

2100 Angels The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION 115	Posted - 2013.05.18 15:16:00 - [41] - Quote Jayquan18 wrote: Panther Alpha wrote: I have to say it !! I can't hold it no longer !! - What happen to PvE for Planetary Conquest ? - Character customization ( Paint shop ) ? - Virtual Environments ? - Game modes ? - Role Play Content ? - Weapon modding, customization, and damage variants ? - Vehicles variants ( Attack Dropships, jets, support, tactical ) - Active Player to player market ? And so on... Do CCP toke a wrong turn some where ? Is CCP just trying to please a very specific group of people ? Hint; The current Planetary Conquest ( VIP game mode ) Better yet WTF happen to the 48 player battles they promised us since early beta. Watch.The.Fanfest.Videos. how hard is it to research a little bit before crying like a little girl?
Crash Monster Snipers Anonymous 284	Posted - 2013.05.18 15:18:00 - [42] - Quote 2100 Angels wrote: how hard is it to research a little bit before crying like a little girl? Sometimes people just need a good cry.
copy left SyNergy Gaming EoN. 187	Posted - 2013.05.18 15:24:00 - [43] - Quote Panther Alpha wrote: I have to say it !! I can't hold it no longer !! - What happen to PvE for Planetary Conquest ? - Character customization ( Paint shop ) ? - Virtual Environments ? - Game modes ? - Role Play Content ? - Weapon modding, customization, and damage variants ? - Vehicles variants ( Attack Dropships, jets, support, tactical ) - Active Player to player market ? And so on... Do CCP toke a wrong turn some where ? Is CCP just trying to please a very specific group of people ? Hint; The current Planetary Conquest ( VIP game mode ) I want all this stuff too, but they dont have enough polish on the things we have right now to keep adding new content. They need to get rid of bugs that have plagued the game since beta. I know it might be hard to code for Ps3 but they made a commitment and have to pull through. FPS bugs in matches after you play too long needs to go. And voice chat bugs where you have to reset for it to work etc..
inohahna mamotto The Sangheli 21	Posted - 2013.05.18 15:27:00 - [44] - Quote Man reading this dudes english makes my eyes burn
Cass Barr Red Star. EoN. 0	Posted - 2013.05.18 15:52:00 - [45] - Quote Kind of curious as to what this "VIP game mode" is about, also. Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the major alliances participating in PC alone comprise about five thousand total characters. And considering the framerate issues, which **** me off at times, I'm glad the battles aren't 48 players yet.
Panther Alpha WarRavens 236	Posted - 2013.05.18 16:10:00 - [46] - Quote inohahna mamotto wrote: Man reading this dudes english makes my eyes burn At least i'm trying to write more than one sentence ... I guess you IQ is to low, to write something constructive huh ?
SILENTSAM 69 Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION 463	Posted - 2013.05.18 16:34:00 - [47] - Quote I have to say it !! I can't hold it no longer !! You people who complain have to pay more attention if you want to be taken seriously. The things you are asking for are things that are planned to be added. This is not the kind of game that releases and is done. The game will be added to and upgraded for years to come. Just because they give you the road map for their future ideas does not mean they will appear in the next few weeks. DUST 514 already offers more than any other FPS game ever has in terms of reason to play, customization, and support to the player base. Not to mention the depth of the clan/corp support and other features no other console FPS has been able to provide. People complain about problems as if they only exist in this game and are not common and often far worse in the biggest name titles.
CrotchGrab 360 Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 52	Posted - 2013.05.18 16:36:00 - [48] - Quote SILENTSAM 69 wrote: I have to say it !! I can't hold it no longer !! You people who complain have to pay more attention if you want to be taken seriously. The things you are asking for are things that are planned to be added. This is not the kind of game that releases and is done. The game will be added to and upgraded for years to come. Just because they give you the road map for their future ideas does not mean they will appear in the next few weeks. DUST 514 already offers more than any other FPS game ever has in terms of reason to play, customization, and support to the player base. Not to mention the depth of the clan/corp support and other features no other console FPS has been able to provide. People complain about problems as if they only exist in this game and are not common and often far worse in the biggest name titles. you also have to realise that a lot of complainers know things are coming but are impatient. you can't assume that because somebody complains about something they don't know it's on its' way, although it would be alright to do so most of the time. Regardless, I've already said how I feel on the last page.
Laheon Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 540	Posted - 2013.05.18 16:38:00 - [49] - Quote People don't particularly understand CCP's development structure. Or, they don't know. So here's some enlightenment. CCP have a lot of different teams working on different content. For example, Team True Grit (for DUST) is working on PC. Another team will be working on PvE. Another team will be working on dropsuits and vehicles. Another will be working on a general GPU/UI optimisation. Just because you haven't heard anything, or it hasn't come in, doesn't mean that CCP aren't, and haven't been, working on it. CCP have said multiples times that they'll put in content when it's ready to be put in. These things take time. Animating the Rogue Drones for PvP can take a lot of time to get right, to make it look "realistic". It's not as if it takes a two week adjustment of existing features, and then it's ready. It's a whole new game mode. CoD release the same game every year, and in that year all they do is tweak MP slightly, write a new SP story that lasts about 20 hours, and design a few maps. CCP, on the other hand, has (perhaps) at least 20 game modes they want to put in, including PvE modes, a lot more topologically-accurate maps, seven more planet types, four more types of vehicles, a lot of racial vehicles and weapons, etc, etc. Give it some time, and be patient.
CrotchGrab 360 Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 52	Posted - 2013.05.18 16:42:00 - [50] - Quote Laheon wrote: People don't particularly understand CCP's development structure. Or, they don't know. So here's some enlightenment. CCP have a lot of different teams working on different content. For example, Team True Grit (for DUST) is working on PC. Another team will be working on PvE. Another team will be working on dropsuits and vehicles. Another will be working on a general GPU/UI optimisation. Just because you haven't heard anything, or it hasn't come in, doesn't mean that CCP aren't, and haven't been, working on it. CCP have said multiples times that they'll put in content when it's ready to be put in. These things take time. Animating the Rogue Drones for PvP can take a lot of time to get right, to make it look "realistic". It's not as if it takes a two week adjustment of existing features, and then it's ready. It's a whole new game mode. CoD release the same game every year, and in that year all they do is tweak MP slightly, write a new SP story that lasts about 20 hours, and design a few maps. CCP, on the other hand, has (perhaps) at least 20 game modes they want to put in, including PvE modes, a lot more topologically-accurate maps, seven more planet types, four more types of vehicles, a lot of racial vehicles and weapons, etc, etc. Give it some time, and be patient. Agreed. DUST will either be the most complex and most interesting FPS out there and most likely one of the most diverse and varied games on a console outside of the RPG genre! OR it will be rushed and broken and will fail. Then the people who complained will again complain that the game is broken, therefore you should not and can not, reason with stupidity.

Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 4308	Posted - 2013.05.18 16:42:00 - [51] - Quote Panther Alpha wrote: I have to say it !! I can't hold it no longer !! - What happen to PvE for Planetary Conquest ? - Character customization ( Paint shop ) ? - Virtual Environments ? - Game modes ? - Role Play Content ? - Weapon modding, customization, and damage variants ? - Vehicles variants ( Attack Dropships, jets, support, tactical ) - Active Player to player market ? And so on... Do CCP toke a wrong turn some where ? Is CCP just trying to please a very specific group of people ? Hint; The current Planetary Conquest ( VIP game mode ) Nealry 0% of these mentioned items are launch features from announced a year ago. Now what happened to been added to launch features that was not originally planned? Corporations First interation of Planetary Conquest
Panther Alpha WarRavens 238	Posted - 2013.05.18 16:49:00 - [52] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Panther Alpha wrote: I have to say it !! I can't hold it no longer !! - What happen to PvE for Planetary Conquest ? - Character customization ( Paint shop ) ? - Virtual Environments ? - Game modes ? - Role Play Content ? - Weapon modding, customization, and damage variants ? - Vehicles variants ( Attack Dropships, jets, support, tactical ) - Active Player to player market ? And so on... Do CCP toke a wrong turn some where ? Is CCP just trying to please a very specific group of people ? Hint; The current Planetary Conquest ( VIP game mode ) Nealry 0% of these mentioned items are launch features from announced a year ago. Now what happened to been added to launch features that was not originally planned? Corporations First interation of Planetary Conquest Come on ... even you have to recognize, that the game as it is now, is not where near to what Dust 514 should be.. specially as an "Official Release".
CrotchGrab 360 Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 52	Posted - 2013.05.18 16:52:00 - [53] - Quote Panther Alpha wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Panther Alpha wrote: I have to say it !! I can't hold it no longer !! - What happen to PvE for Planetary Conquest ? - Character customization ( Paint shop ) ? - Virtual Environments ? - Game modes ? - Role Play Content ? - Weapon modding, customization, and damage variants ? - Vehicles variants ( Attack Dropships, jets, support, tactical ) - Active Player to player market ? And so on... Do CCP toke a wrong turn some where ? Is CCP just trying to please a very specific group of people ? Hint; The current Planetary Conquest ( VIP game mode ) Nealry 0% of these mentioned items are launch features from announced a year ago. Now what happened to been added to launch features that was not originally planned? Corporations First interation of Planetary Conquest Come on ... even you have to recognize, that the game as it is now, is not where near to what Dust 514 should be.. specially as an "Official Release". but we have new game modes now amongst other things, over time we'll have so much stuff and so many game modes we won't know what to do! they are adding stuff and that's all that matters. i think the release is symbolic more than anything but i get where you're coming from.
Odiain Suliis The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 153	Posted - 2013.05.18 17:21:00 - [54] - Quote I think there is mismatch of ecpectations in what is considered acceptable featureset for 'officially releaced' traditional box title and that of a game as a service.


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