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Dark Deviser
XERCORE E X T E R M I N A T U S
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Posted - 2013.05.18 00:24:00 -
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I would like to discuss LAV's with all of you. As it stands here are the advantages and disavantages that I'm currently aware of...
Scout LAV: Pros: speed and turret tracking. Cons: has low armor/shield, and its blue.
Now LAV's imo are pretty fast already so it doesn't really add much... Turret tracking honestly doesn't really add much either because small turret's already have decent tracking imo so basically all your getting is a downgrade.
Now lets look at the logi LAV in comparison and laugh at how much better it is haha.
Logi LAV: Pros: heals, has highest armor/shield value of all LAV's, and its yellow. Cons: none.
Everyone I know and see, plays logi LAV over scout. I want to hear from any of you scout rollers what you would like to see on you're LAV, or is the scout LAV okay as it is? I really don't know, but I really want to find out.
Also feedback and input from Logi LAV rollers are also welcomed.
let the discussion begin! |
Jason Pearson
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.05.18 00:31:00 -
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Yellow is a Con, I want gold rims not a yellow car.
LLAV is superior to the other LAVs when being a murder taxi, that is all. |
Big Popa Smurff
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
189
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Posted - 2013.05.18 00:38:00 -
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iv got the limbus and the scout LAV and the scout is useless.
we had a race in an empty game with 5 LAV's. 2 methana's, 1 limbus, 1 saga and a scout LAV, i was in the scout and it was barley faster than rest. no point in them. plus the paint job is awful |
crazy space 1
Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic
1194
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Posted - 2013.05.18 00:45:00 -
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The scout is the same speed, I don't know how is doing the numbers at CCP for this title but FIRE THEM. Just let someone else try please. Or move them somewhere else in the company, no need to kick him just don't let him be in charge anymore... sigh....
The guys at the icelandic office must be facepalming but cant say anything. Don't worry guys I have faith. Living game and all 100% new game every 6 months, I'm ready for the ride. |
Dark Deviser
XERCORE E X T E R M I N A T U S
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Posted - 2013.05.18 00:49:00 -
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I don't think there really is any hope for the scout LAV
Unless they add some kind of equipable or better stats?
Any input on what those might be? that would make a person spec into scout over logi or am I completely wrong. |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
998
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Posted - 2013.05.18 01:02:00 -
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Logi LAV has a penalty to turret damage I believe. There's no stat for it, but it's in the description. |
copy left
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
187
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Posted - 2013.05.18 01:03:00 -
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The scout LAV needs to be 2x as fast as the regular variants then. |
Cody Sietz
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
116
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Posted - 2013.05.18 01:07:00 -
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Priced? |
Full Metal Kitten
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.18 01:07:00 -
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copy left wrote:The scout LAV needs to be 2x as fast as the regular variants then. Only if you can strap C-4 to it and jihad some biznatches.
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Den-tredje Baron
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.05.18 01:27:00 -
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Maybe adding sensor capabilities to the scout lav ?? Making it have the same abilities as a very good vehicle active scanner has just passively. That way it could really act as a form of SLAV in that it''ll most likely pick up targets before they are actually seen. Idea ?? |
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Doc Noah
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.18 01:29:00 -
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Cloaking is coming... Predator roadkill. |
Dark Deviser
XERCORE E X T E R M I N A T U S
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Posted - 2013.05.18 01:37:00 -
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How about enchaning the range of an active scanner? or built in CRU? or the ability to drop upload links from the LAV? increased speed that actually shows. *cough* *cough* maybe increased turret damage?
These things are scout'ish imo and it doesn't even have to even be a big difference just something that makes it comparable to logi. Turret rotation and speed that doesn't even show are not even slightly comparable to the logi LAV.
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LeCuch
Red Star. EoN.
122
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Posted - 2013.05.18 01:57:00 -
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Dark Deviser wrote:I would like to discuss LAV's with all of you. As it stands here are the advantages and disavantages that I'm currently aware of... Scout LAV: Pros: speed and turret tracking. Cons: has low armor/shield, and its blue. Now LAV's imo are pretty fast already so it doesn't really add much... Turret tracking honestly doesn't really add much either because small turret's already have decent tracking imo so basically all your getting is a downgrade. Now lets look at the logi LAV in comparison and laugh at how much better it is haha. Logi LAV: Pros: heals, has highest armor/shield value of all LAV's, and its yellow. Cons: none. Everyone I know and see, plays logi LAV over scout. I want to hear from any of you scout rollers what you would like to see on you're LAV, or is the scout LAV okay as it is? I really don't know, but I really want to find out. Also feedback and input from Logi LAV rollers are also welcomed. let the discussion begin!
I use both. Sometimes i run the scout with a nitro and a turbo, and it's pretty great. Other then races, it sucks |
Delirium Inferno
Edoras Corporation
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Posted - 2013.05.18 04:09:00 -
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Scout LAV's should come with motion sensors for passive scanning, a reduced profile signature, and be faster. Maybe quieter as well. |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1549
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Posted - 2013.05.18 04:27:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Logi LAV has a penalty to turret damage I believe. There's no stat for it, but it's in the description.
Confirmed removed. |
DigiOps
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.18 04:29:00 -
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Delirium Inferno wrote:Scout LAV's should come with motion sensors for passive scanning, a reduced profile signature, and be faster. Maybe quieter as well. Hmm, I like the sounds of that. I'd appreciate dedicated EWAR vehicles. |
The-Errorist
BetaMax Beta CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.07.25 02:35:00 -
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Dark Deviser wrote:I would like to discuss LAV's with all of you. As it stands here are the advantages and disavantages that I'm currently aware of... Scout LAV: Pros: speed and turret tracking. Cons: has low armor/shield, and its blue. Now LAV's imo are pretty fast already so it doesn't really add much... Turret tracking honestly doesn't really add much either because small turret's already have decent tracking imo so basically all your getting is a downgrade. Now lets look at the logi LAV in comparison and laugh at how much better it is haha. Logi LAV: Pros: heals, has highest armor/shield value of all LAV's, and its yellow. Cons: none. Everyone I know and see, plays logi LAV over scout. I want to hear from any of you scout rollers what you would like to see on you're LAV, or is the scout LAV okay as it is? I really don't know, but I really want to find out. Also feedback and input from Logi LAV rollers are also welcomed. let the discussion begin! You forgot to mention that they lose 2 slots: 1 high and 1 low, have lower shield recharge rates, a lot less base hp, and lastly less PG/CPU. |
Eriknaught
Vader's Taco Shack
107
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Posted - 2013.07.25 03:24:00 -
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DigiOps wrote:Delirium Inferno wrote:Scout LAV's should come with motion sensors for passive scanning, a reduced profile signature, and be faster. Maybe quieter as well. Hmm, I like the sounds of that. I'd appreciate dedicated EWAR vehicles.
Driving around jamming radars would be cool. Or, even better, radar jamming equipment o.0 On topic; I really wanted to like the SLAVs, but LLAVs really are better in pretty much every aspect. That is all. Eriknaught out. END TRANSMISSION. |
Charlotte O'Dell
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
726
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Posted - 2013.07.25 03:39:00 -
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Scout LAVs: When the turret you don't use needs to be 10% faster |
xSaloLx
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.07.25 03:49:00 -
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I had some ideas about the SLAV (there's a thread I made somewhere in Req/FB).
Basically I said make it faster, give it a built-in active scanner, and give it a 10-15% small turret damage boost per level along with current bonuses. The idea was that it becomes an anti-LAV/ lone infantry LAV. |
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The-Errorist
BetaMax Beta CRONOS.
71
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Posted - 2013.07.25 03:53:00 -
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I just speced into the Scout LAV on a test acc, It has the SAME speed as a militia LAV.
Its has the same stats as a militia LAV, but with a much higher price tag. A standard LAV is an upgrade to a scout LAV and its cheaper. |
Raz Warsaw
Capital Acquisitions LLC
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Posted - 2013.07.25 06:35:00 -
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Posting in a stealth LLAV are op thread
Limbus is not op
Shield is OP
Make flux Av nades(magnetized)
LLavs are no longer OP
/thread |
The-Errorist
BetaMax Beta CRONOS.
71
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Posted - 2013.07.25 07:17:00 -
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Raz Warsaw wrote:Posting in a stealth LLAV are op thread
Limbus is not op
Shield is OP
Make flux Av nades(magnetized)
LLavs are no longer OP
/thread You're going off-topic. This is not the right thread for that discussion. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
5123
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Posted - 2013.07.25 07:17:00 -
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Also, logistics LAVS need to be slower than regular LAVs, and they need to have less shield recharge. They do NOT need to have more slots than the basic LAVs. They should keep the higher base HP
Scout LAVs need more speed, and more shield recharge.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Me and my brother were doing some research on the LAV specializations. The logistics LAV has no drawbacks, just as fast as the other LAVs, more HP, more shield recharge, more slots. This is not a sidegrade or specialization, its a complete upgrade. We checked the scout LAV, and that what really surprised me; the Abron (scout LAV) has the EXACT same stats as the baloch (militia LAV). The only difference is a worthless bonus to turret turning speed, slight acceleration speed, and a blue color. This thing is so worthless. Basically a 80k+ SP sink militia LAV.
The LAV specializations show a complete lack of competence on the devs responsible for them (Blam and/or whoever else). Seriously, the scout LAV... how did they possibly think it was a good idea? I seriously want to know the thought process behind this. |
broonfondle majikthies
P.O.N.A.G.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2013.07.25 07:23:00 -
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I don't own a scout LAV. something that costs that much I would like a little more protection to the investment. That said I stole a scout LAV and WHOA it was so manoeuvrable I couldn't believe it. If they cut the cost a little I would totally spec into it.
As for the LLAV's. Does the repair feature work? I try it every opportunity I can and its always failed. I can shield boost and remote repair tanks but not the unique infantry rep. |
The-Errorist
BetaMax Beta CRONOS.
71
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Posted - 2013.07.25 07:26:00 -
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broonfondle majikthies wrote:I don't own a scout LAV. something that costs that much I would like a little more protection to the investment. That said I stole a scout LAV and WHOA it was so manoeuvrable I couldn't believe it. If they cut the cost a little I would totally spec into it.
As for the LLAV's. Does the repair feature work? I try it every opportunity I can and its always failed. I can shield boost and remote repair tanks but not the unique infantry rep. The infantry repper works. |
Mary Sedillo
BetaMax. CRONOS.
181
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Posted - 2013.07.25 07:28:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:Yellow is a Con, I want gold rims not a yellow car.
LLAV is superior to the other LAVs when being a murder taxi, that is all.
It is pretty badass, but can fulfill more roles than being a murder taxi. |
Mary Sedillo
BetaMax. CRONOS.
181
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Posted - 2013.07.25 07:29:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Also, logistics LAVS need to be slower than regular LAVs, and they need to have less shield recharge. They do NOT need to have more slots than the basic LAVs. They should keep the higher base HP Scout LAVs need more speed, and more shield recharge. KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Me and my brother were doing some research on the LAV specializations. The logistics LAV has no drawbacks, just as fast as the other LAVs, more HP, more shield recharge, more slots. This is not a sidegrade or specialization, its a complete upgrade. We checked the scout LAV, and that what really surprised me; the Abron (scout LAV) has the EXACT same stats as the baloch (militia LAV). The only difference is a worthless bonus to turret turning speed, slight acceleration speed, and a blue color. This thing is so worthless. Basically a 80k+ SP sink militia LAV.
The LAV specializations show a complete lack of competence on the devs responsible for them (Blam and/or whoever else). Seriously, the scout LAV... how did they possibly think it was a good idea? I seriously want to know the thought process behind this.
Yeah, they do. They don't need to go INSTA POP to infantry.
When will you guys stop crying all the time? |
broonfondle majikthies
P.O.N.A.G.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
41
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Posted - 2013.07.25 07:34:00 -
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The-Errorist wrote:The LAV was so menuverable mostly due of the modules the person put on the LAV, not just cuz its a scout LAV, the person could have also maxed out the passive 2% per level acceleration. Also the infantry repper works.
Ah fair enough I guess. I shall persevere cus I refuse to be a murder taxi. TO THE LIMBUS! |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
5154
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Posted - 2013.07.27 06:53:00 -
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Logistics LAVs should be a specialization, not an upgrade. |
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