The controls are perfectly fine, sans front-turret control.

The controls are perfectly fine, sans front-turret control.

Hi Jaron,
Great to hear from new dropship pilots (and a real pilot too). If you would be interested in getting involved in ongoing dropship feedback, I invite you to join 514th Wing. Pilot focus group. You can read more about it in this doc, https://docs.google.com/a/havokcore.com/document/d/1igsSZOT0Zaf8TXDhFZWHkQ5r0MTzgxNXwOfdtu56MaU

you can email at, [email protected]

Good Luck flying,
Brush

i put some hours behind a robinson 22 beta and that is a touchy little bird. I agree with you on all counts about flying these dropships and i like the complexity of it. However i would like to be able to adjust the controls myself. I liked Pre May 6th flying vs this new camera thing they got going on.

Yep, one of those again. I think this will be a bit different, though, so please read it all.

I'm a pilot in real life, both fixed and rotary wing hours, a combined total of nearly 2500 hours, not sure how much in each. Mostly, I fly Robins for aerial photography stuff, cuz it's fun.

Now, I've also had the opportunity to pilot a Royal Australian Army UH-1 and an OH-1. Compared the the Robin, neither one of these are a leaf on the breeze if you get my drift. They are not as touchy as the Robin, but they are heavy, and take a lot of very precise input from the pilot to control.

Unfortunately, despite my real life experience, getting into my first dropship in a match I just played didn't end well... but, that was only because I inverted the flight controls, cuz I thought that might make it more realistic. Needless to say, I flew myself and a sniper passenger looking for a quick lift to a good vantage point into the side of a mountain. It was a spectacular fail, and I couldn't stop laughing, but my passenger was not so impressed.

Anyway, I spawned in a new starter fit, checked out the controls again and changed the inverted flight controls back. The vehicle suddenly came to life and, through a series of trial and error maneuvers (surprisingly, not too much error, though definitely some close calls) I finally gave that ship some proper wings.

Anyway, I've been reading alot about complaints regarding dropship controls and I have, up until now, refrained from commenting, because I had yet to try it. I'll tell you what annoys me, the only thing that annoys me. As a pilot, I'm trained that when you pull the stick back, the nose will lift. I would like the camera to do that. When I pull back on the right stick, it means I'm trying to look up, not down. But I cannot find an option to invert that. I have inverted look when on foot, but if changing that for dropship piloting is required to get the same effect... why?

That's my only beef. As far as I can tell, the ship handles very much like a vehicle in that role should handle, and the actual flight controls themselves make sense, and is very analogous to the collective/cyclic/rudder controls you get on a helicopter in the same role. It is not easy to fly one of these vehicles, and I don't think it should be. It should be a constant battle against the forces of gravity and enemy fire, while attempting to return a few rounds and deploy troops in hostile environments.

Needless to say, after watching me lift off the first time straight into a hillside, it didn't seem like anyone on my team was willing to climb into my second dropship, so I spent the match (which we were winning anyway) getting a handle on the controls and repping when I took fire. I made a large number of circles around the map and even harassed an enemy dropship into crashing into a building, all while flying at low altitude using precision maneuvering to avoid the buildings and enemy fire myself.

I like the controls, except that I can't invert my vertical looking on it. Unless I can, which would require me to change it for my footwork as well, which I don't wanna do. For me, back means up, forward means down. It makes sense if you're a pilot, and so does the dropship.

I agree with you completely on their handling, and greatly enjoy flying them myself, but they're far too easy to shoot down.

What's wrong with the front turret? I haven't tried it yet, so this is a genuine question. The pilot doesn't seem to have any access to weaponry.

Flying is a lot of fun. That's why so many pilots are being so vocal about how bad the current situation is. No WP, paper thin, turret controls, etc. etc.

If you can borrow one from a friend I encourage you to try ir yourself. The turret cannot be aimed in first person but is fixed to the ship. In third you can aim down about 60 degrees. Not right or left. The problem though is that the camera, tied to your turret aiming dot, is constantly and forcibly reset upward. If you want to aim down you both have to shoot at target you cannot see through your own ship but also must maintain a steady semi pressure down on the control sticm to hold scope in place. Impossible to hold still

I'm not in it for the rewards, sorry. I don't care about the WP. And aircraft, as I stated, are not built to be flying tanks. That's what tanks are for. I had a shield booster and an armour repper, and dual resistance plates on mine and it took a lot of firepower. No CRU though, that's probably why no one was spawning. So I made a new one with a CRU. But I speed tanked it instead, and I've been dodging so many missiles it's almost funny :p Doesn't need HP if you can avoid getting hit.

I will have to try the turret controls, though. I'll get to it.

Sure you can fly around all day and maybe not get killed but what are you contributing then

That's the thing about piloting. Being able to pilot WHILE contributing.

That's the thing about why they shouldn't be made of 1-ply TP

This is an exaggeration, simple. For the last time, they are not meant to be tanks. They are MEANT to be fragile. They are MEANT to be easy to kill, but HARD to hit with a good pilot

Cool to hear this. Read through a few comments, skipped most. Just wanted to say I enjoy the new controls. Wish there was an easier way to hover, but to me that just means I need to practice some more.

Agno`

I'm not so sure they're "Meant" to be anything. There's what they are now, and then there's what they should be to increase game balance, variety, and fun.

A DS cannot preform a single function if there exist weapons in the game which obliterate it instantly the moment it stops moving (and in many cases while it's moving).