yep, balanced

/serious

Why is the weapon not shown on the kill screen?

He shot you with a space RPG. Totally fair. Also, he did 5k damage, which means that if you did used hardeners he had to hit you at least three times. Once again, totally fair.

It should be. I'm not sure. Weapons only flash for a second on that scrolling combat text but I wish they'd save logs of those to look at after battles.

The Merc who killed you is visible, the suit he is wearing is visible, the weapon he killed you with is not visible. Something is wrong there.

Also, the damage listed on the screen is not the kill shot. It's the total damage he did to you in the engagement. Bottom lined, you got forged more than once.

I was missing a few shield from like plasma riffle or something

Why is the weapon not shown on the kill screen?

Forge guns.....

Perhaps if they slow down the round of the FG it might be more balanced.

http://i43.tinypic.com/24on39s.jpg


This isn't even the worst. Being 1 shot through multiple hardeners in a 1.5 million ISK dropship.

Balanced right?

This is just a guess, but isn't it because dropships always die from crashing and not the weapon itself? I know the guy still got the kill, since it happens with my swarm, but technically the ground killed this guy, not the forge.

forge gun. Breach: 2541 damage. Add mods. Hit "weak spot" of ship which if half the size of ship.

DS: 700 shield, 1700 armor. = 2400 HP with hardener still doesn't cut it : /

My DS has 1800 shields and 2600 armor with a shield repper, an armor rep, and 2 22% damage resists (CURSE YOU NEW PRICE!!!). I also have 6% resist on shields and 10% on armor from skills.

It still only takes 2-3 shots from a strong FG to take me down, and that usually happens in the span of a few seconds, long before I can realign the ship from being hit, activate modules, drop altitude and weave and bob, while the FG guy is just loling the day away.

Honestly, no forge gun should let you hold the charge, they should all be like the assault. Holding the shot makes the weapon laughably simple to use, and why many forge gunners and vehicle pilots alike regard the Assault variant as being the most skilled FG.

Also keep in mind this is only a single forge. I don't know about the blueberries here, but I play 16v16 organized squad matches, and you get full squads of AV coming after you.

If you're a dropship pilot, I'm telling you right now, this is your LAST warning.

BAIL BAIL BAIL!!

People use other versions other than the Assault variant?!!

Noobs

My DS has 1800 shields and 2600 armor with a shield repper, an armor rep, and 2 22% damage resists (CURSE YOU NEW PRICE!!!). I also have 6% resist on shields and 10% on armor from skills.

It still only takes 2-3 shots from a strong FG to take me down, and that usually happens in the span of a few seconds, long before I can realign the ship from being hit, activate modules, drop altitude and weave and bob, while the FG guy is just loling the day away.

Honestly, no forge gun should let you hold the charge, they should all be like the assault. Holding the shot makes the weapon laughably simple to use, and why many forge gunners and vehicle pilots alike regard the Assault variant as being the most skilled FG.

Also keep in mind this is only a single forge. I don't know about the blueberries here, but I play 16v16 organized squad matches, and you get full squads of AV coming after you.

If you're a dropship pilot, I'm telling you right now, this is your LAST warning.

BAIL BAIL BAIL!!

or max defenses at the cost of turret quality.

The breach is actually where it's at, believe it or not

It's all about the Alpha

These posts amuse me the most because it shows those players have literally no experience with vehicles. The difference in fitting cost between basic and prototype is negligible at best, the ONLY reason you should be fitting weaker turrets is to save on ISK, which is still a meh move at best.

My DS has 1800 shields and 2600 armor with a shield repper, an armor rep, and 2 22% damage resists (CURSE YOU NEW PRICE!!!). I also have 6% resist on shields and 10% on armor from skills.

It still only takes 2-3 shots from a strong FG to take me down, and that usually happens in the span of a few seconds, long before I can realign the ship from being hit, activate modules, drop altitude and weave and bob, while the FG guy is just loling the day away.

Honestly, no forge gun should let you hold the charge, they should all be like the assault. Holding the shot makes the weapon laughably simple to use, and why many forge gunners and vehicle pilots alike regard the Assault variant as being the most skilled FG.

Also keep in mind this is only a single forge. I don't know about the blueberries here, but I play 16v16 organized squad matches, and you get full squads of AV coming after you.

If you're a dropship pilot, I'm telling you right now, this is your LAST warning.

BAIL BAIL BAIL!!

Primary as an assault forge gun user last build I would have to say this is not going to fix things. If anything it will nerf the hell out of the breech variant.

I completely believe that giving forge guns "infinite" range with falloff is the answer, so long as their optimal range is tweaked back correctly. That way if you're dicking around too close, you get punished by a lucky or smart forge gunner, where as altitude and distance in general helps you against solo hunters, while still giving them the chance to send your ship rocking into a building.

My corp needs boots on the ground to fight though, I can't sit around losing us millions and millions of isk for months and months while CCP slowly tweaks the dials.

Beware my Breach Forge.

Getting my own soon enough

Two breach heavies with squad support is all it takes to permanently shut down any and all dropship play, as well as most vehicle play in general.

The problem isn't just forge guns (which out damage large rail guns) but that dropships are crap at the moment.

1 - 2 shots from a tank and you're a fireball. Giant floating target. If they were physically smaller, they'd be harder to hit. Right now they're larger then a tank.

Free rail gun installations are the most rage inducing thing is a pilot. Best AV weapon in the game, deep in the enemies redline, easily operated with deadly efficiency.

As if rails on tanks weren't bad enough