DUST Search - FULL SCALE SKILL RESET

xxMemphis wrote:

BRAIN-MATTER-SPLATTERER NEURALGIA wrote:

Well exactly what it says up there ^
Almost every game in beta takes away everything you've owned when switching over to the Final Release.
Give people who paid their Aurum back, but take away every single skill point that was accumulated during the Beta Phase.
Disband all Corporations..
Nothing that was given or made during beta crosses over to the Full Release.
It's complete garbage! There's absolutely no use to join a Corp doing battles, because they won't even let you play their corp battles at all unless you have ''PROTO'' Shiyt! or 6 Mill SP! Which you shouldn't even have considering the game just finalized!

Everything needs to be taken away, everything needs to be fair!
It's absolutely not fair! This universe is lopsided!

Those who would like to Petition for a Full Scale Game Reset
Quote & Pass your name on. Those who will oppose this idea, solely because it effects them can whine without quoting.
Again if you quote you automatically agree to this, no way around it.

Sounds like maybe you joined a corp that has rules that your not good enough for. You can also petition for a reset if you like and I am pretty sure they will give it to you. If you take away all the SP earned during the beta phase then you will also need to start finding a way to attract alot of new players because a huge portion of the current player base will leave. The game is not that revolutionary at this point so why grind for a 2nd or 3rd time just to get the same game they have been playing all along

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BRAIN-MATTER-SPLATTERER NEURALGIA D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire 6	Posted - 2013.05.16 22:44:00 - [31] - Quote Veritas Vitae wrote: BRAIN-MATTER-SPLATTERER NEURALGIA wrote: We must not be talking about the same game then, because this one just got released as given it's release date. HTFU, SP gap will always exist. "QQ, game only released 2 days ago, why do I need so much SP?" Answer: game was "released" two days ago, but has been fully available to you for almost 5 months now. You've had 5 months to earn your 6 million SP. "QQ, but I only want to play a finished product. I don't want to waste my time on a beta." Answer: 2 things. One, that is your choice, which is why you had QQ #1. Second, EVE is basically a 10-year evolving beta. Guess what? Dust is the same. Brand new content was just added on "release" day, which has not yet been tested externally at all until today as the first battle timers expire. Honestly, you don't have very strong points in your OP about why the SP needs to be reset. Don't need to have strong points. People can realize that for themselves or keep defending themselves it makes no difference to me what you think.
adam5150 Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2013.05.16 22:44:00 - [32] - Quote Hang in there! There is nothing I enjoy more than killing a proto suit with a 2k militia set up. Dont worry about your K/D go out and have fun! Proto is too expensive anyway.
Veritas Vitae Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 161	Posted - 2013.05.16 22:45:00 - [33] - Quote Logic-Dodging Proficiency 5. Didn't know we had people who were training that skill.
BRAIN-MATTER-SPLATTERER NEURALGIA D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire 6	Posted - 2013.05.16 22:47:00 - [34] - Quote I could care less what other people think. So keep stating reasons why, or why this shouldn't be. I'll just be playing the game anyways, waiting till it drops for PS4 & all your SUPER SP Proto's can suck a huge **** later this year. Then i'll be saying, WELL you should have bought a PS4 1 year ago!! While i'm constantly trolling everyone in my Protogear
Matticus Monk Ordus Trismegistus 33	Posted - 2013.05.16 22:48:00 - [35] - Quote I think this is a valid point to a certain extent, and as much as it would hurt I would be fine with giving up my SP if it was an across the board action to all players. However, doing this now (or ideally, at launch) would only solve the temporary problem until new players start to join a few weeks or months after launch. Then you inevitably end up with the same imbalance. It's simplistic to say that everyone should start playing the game on the same day (launch), given that some folks may not have heard of the game, maybe are travelling, or if this turns into a game of Eve-Epic proportions - maybe they haven't even been born yet. I don't think this is a solvable problem. It's just like life - old folks know the ticks and how to work the system. They have more skills and an advantage at a large number of things. So - am I saying wake up and smell the roses? Am I saying HTFU? Am I saying 'welcome to the real world'? I guess I'm saying all of that - but with more logic and politeness. PS - this game should still be in beta testing given it's current level of maturity.
L1eutenantG Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 5	Posted - 2013.05.16 22:49:00 - [36] - Quote At the end of the day, it was a gamble. If they reset on launch day then you would have the 5 month grinders crying. They don't reset on launch day then the new player base is crying. It was a gamble, the beta grinders took the risk and it payed off as its the first time beta progression has rolled over into a official release date. Also there is a big difference between turning up 5 months early and 5 months later. People that come in 5 months after release date know that game is "released" and been running since said release date. Waiting for release date only to find out people have a 5 month head start. Two very different situations..!
BRAIN-MATTER-SPLATTERER NEURALGIA D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire 6	Posted - 2013.05.16 22:52:00 - [37] - Quote Like i said, when i see all yall posting forums on how people who got a PS4 earlier than you did had an advantage ima do the same thing to you on every thread.
Geth Massredux Defensores Doctrina 341	Posted - 2013.05.16 22:52:00 - [38] - Quote BRAIN-MATTER-SPLATTERER NEURALGIA wrote: Well exactly what it says up there ^ Almost every game in beta takes away everything you've owned when switching over to the Final Release. Give people who paid their Aurum back, but take away every single skill point that was accumulated during the Beta Phase. Disband all Corporations.. Nothing that was given or made during beta crosses over to the Full Release. It's complete garbage! There's absolutely no use to join a Corp doing battles, because they won't even let you play their corp battles at all unless you have ''PROTO'' Shiyt! or 6 Mill SP! Which you shouldn't even have considering the game just finalized! Everything needs to be taken away, everything needs to be fair! It's absolutely not fair! This universe is lopsided! Those who would like to Petition for a Full Scale Game Reset Quote & Pass your name on. Those who will oppose this idea, solely because it effects them can whine without quoting. Again if you quote you automatically agree to this, no way around it. No, we paid aurum for a reason, to be better, to get skills, and to be better, to get further in the game, and to be better. How about you work like that rest of us, we been working to get 9+ million skill points in our **** for a reason... - Geth
ARF 1049 The Phoenix Federation 22	Posted - 2013.05.16 22:55:00 - [39] - Quote the frikin difference is that although this game went full about nothing changed XD you could access it the same, it was open beta... there was different graphics and less weapons... they already did a total reset in closed beta and everybody hated it 127%... this game is like a snowball and a hill the more you roll with it the bigger you get... Thank you :) -arf1049
L1eutenantG Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 5	Posted - 2013.05.16 22:55:00 - [40] - Quote Quote: No, we paid aurum for a reason, to be better, to get skills, and to be better, to get further in the game, and to be better. How about you work like that rest of us, we been working to get 9+ million skill points in our **** for a reason... - Geth And would of you done the same thing if you knew they would to a reset at launch? Have you ever been in a beta that rolls it progression over into the launch date? I'm guessing you have never been in a beta before as it is common knowledge beta progression doesn't normally roll over into the release. You grinders that spent a load of money just got damn lucky, plain and simple..

Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 3069	Posted - 2013.05.16 23:01:00 - [41] - Quote BRAIN-MATTER-SPLATTERER NEURALGIA wrote: Don't need to have strong points. People can realize that for themselves or keep defending themselves it makes no difference to me what you think. Wow. This is quite literally the most hilariously bad attempt at a counter-argument I've ever seen or heard. I'm impressed.
BRAIN-MATTER-SPLATTERER NEURALGIA D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire 7	Posted - 2013.05.16 23:02:00 - [42] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: BRAIN-MATTER-SPLATTERER NEURALGIA wrote: Don't need to have strong points. People can realize that for themselves or keep defending themselves it makes no difference to me what you think. Wow. This is quite literally the most hilariously bad attempt at a counter-argument I've ever seen or heard. I'm impressed. Would you like a cookie?
Chinduko KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 83	Posted - 2013.05.16 23:04:00 - [43] - Quote I'm ok with a full scale skill reset but let us keep our corporations pls. It is fair for the new players that don't want to get massacred by those abusing prototypes in pub matches.
ZDub 303 Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 153	Posted - 2013.05.16 23:04:00 - [44] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: So open beta was what... 4 months ago..? So in 4 months will you be back complaining that there are people with 12 million and people with 0 sp? no? thats right... cause now you'll have 12 million. So when that new guy comes along and says "waaaaaaaah not fair!!!" What are you gonna say? You still haven't answered my question.
Geth Massredux Defensores Doctrina 341	Posted - 2013.05.16 23:05:00 - [45] - Quote Well Dust 514 is running differently, they had this game up since 2012, which was closed beta, then on to open beta, and since we are their great Fans we keep our progress. If I was in your, or any new persons position, I wouldnt give a flying ****, I would just play the game like a normal human being, Also not whine on the forums about it. cough couhg Brain-Matter.... - Geth
BRAIN-MATTER-SPLATTERER NEURALGIA D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire 7	Posted - 2013.05.16 23:10:00 - [46] - Quote Well obviously you're in here & not in the game so there must be something you don't like about it
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 3069	Posted - 2013.05.16 23:10:00 - [47] - Quote BRAIN-MATTER-SPLATTERER NEURALGIA wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: BRAIN-MATTER-SPLATTERER NEURALGIA wrote: Don't need to have strong points. People can realize that for themselves or keep defending themselves it makes no difference to me what you think. Wow. This is quite literally the most hilariously bad attempt at a counter-argument I've ever seen or heard. I'm impressed. Would you like a cookie? Thanks for the offer, but Firefox doesn't share his cookies.
Goat of Dover Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 165	Posted - 2013.05.16 23:12:00 - [48] - Quote Sorry OP CCP said there was not gonna be another reset at the beginning of open beta in January. You did not join it is not our fault and we should not be punished for your chosen late arrival. An old saying the early bird gets the worm and, the second mouse gets the cheese. The problem for you is the cheese has been there since January. Mamm tasty
Specter RND Ahrendee Mercenaries 90	Posted - 2013.05.16 23:18:00 - [49] - Quote I don't see the issue here. The game has been adverted on ALL Playstation websites and even on your "What's New" tab on your XMB. You had your chance to earn the extra SP and you failed to take it until it was "Released" because either you thought the game was crap or the game wasn't fit for you. It is your own fault for not taking advantage of the stuff that was given to EVERYONE. Not ours, not CCPs, but your own.
Xender17 Oblivion S.G.X 78	Posted - 2013.05.16 23:19:00 - [50] - Quote It's your fault for not joining the rest of us in open beta. The game was released publicly 3 months ago. But was officially "Released" Monday. Official doesn't mean you have to renew things in the game. It just means their comfortable with how far they got the beta and think its ready to be the official game.

kenderr cillo Grupo de Asalto Chacal CRONOS. 13	Posted - 2013.05.16 23:20:00 - [51] - Quote They should do a reset every month, so everybody is equal with 0 sp.
BRAIN-MATTER-SPLATTERER NEURALGIA D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire 7	Posted - 2013.05.16 23:24:00 - [52] - Quote It's funny how all of you assume that im not happy with my Sp level right now. & keep attacking me, when truth is im trying to help those who are trying to like this game. A game with no one else to play with & the same enemies all the time amounts to how much fun? When a game turns into a job how is that any fun? When new & old players decide to say fuhk this game im sick of it & delete it off their hard drive how many corporations will there be? 2? 3? Always fighting over the same land & no new members to talk to besides those of you who seem to over time get sick of? No new members to donate ISK to your cause? Cause i guarantee you that when Planet Side 2 drops for Playstion 4 everyone in your corp who didn't slave this game are gonna say fuhk it. That's the same game except everything starts off fair. I'm playing that. Because not enough people have time to waste on a game that hardly gets anywhere besides teenage kids & those of who exploiting the governments welfare system.
Laheon Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 528	Posted - 2013.05.16 23:26:00 - [53] - Quote Mai Gawd, Gaiz. Okay, right. As can be proven by any vet with about five minutes work, an SP reset doesn't actually matter. Why, you ask? I'm glad you asked such an important question. The vets already know the mechanics of the game, they already know the maps, the weapons, the vehicles. They are used to the controls, and know how to fit the dropsuits just the way they like it. Basically, they just know the game a lot better than any new players. Most vets can create a new character, go into the Noob Academy, and start killing en masse. This has happened before, and will probably happen again. All you do by forcing an SP reset is force the vets to either quit, or play with the noobs again. Either way it's very, very bad for the game. In the first instance, you lose a lot of your most valuable and committed people. This is horrible for a game in its infancy. In the second instance, you lose all the new players who have called for this reset in the first place, not realising exactly what kind of ****storm they were calling on themselves. Then you lose all the core players anyway, because there's no population in game to keep them interested. So, newbs, which would you prefer? Being slaughtered by guys in protosuits if you go instant battle, allowing you to have an excuse and something to complain about, or being slaughtered in noob academy, with no excuse to turn to, and no one to blame but yourself?
Surt gods end Demon Ronin 109	Posted - 2013.05.16 23:30:00 - [54] - Quote what's up dude. feel your pain. But in 4 months when you have a good amount of sp. what happens to the new guy? should we reset every time some one new joins? Don't think it's the same.. what you siding with him? Fine. How about this.. all you new rookies who started same day, are you all going to be on equal level 1 week from now? No. Some will hate the grind like they hate a care bare MMO (looking at you DOTA) and get boosters to shorten that grind. Not paying in a free game? then your left behind. wow.. you put everything into perspective! The ladies love you huh? And I love them. Hi ladies.
BRAIN-MATTER-SPLATTERER NEURALGIA D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire 7	Posted - 2013.05.16 23:34:00 - [55] - Quote Surt gods end wrote: what's up dude. feel your pain. But in 4 months when you have a good amount of sp. what happens to the new guy? should we reset every time some one new joins? Don't think it's the same.. what you siding with him? Fine. How about this.. all you new rookies who started same day, are you all going to be on equal level 1 week from now? No. Some will hate the grind like they hate a care bare MMO (looking at you DOTA) and get boosters to shorten that grind. Not paying in a free game? then your left behind. wow.. you put everything into perspective! The ladies love you huh? And I love them. Hi ladies. A fair start at the OFFICIAL LAUNCH DATE WOULD BE NICE! How many beta games have you played where everything you got in the beta carries over to Launch Release? NONE..
Laheon Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 528	Posted - 2013.05.16 23:40:00 - [56] - Quote Brain, I refer you to my post, the one above Surt's one.
Full Metal Kitten Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 323	Posted - 2013.05.16 23:40:00 - [57] - Quote BRAIN-MATTER-SPLATTERED NECKBEARD wrote: if you quote you automatically agree to this, no way around it. What is it with you scrubs that try and add BS like this at the end of your QQs? Btw, I fixed your name in that quote.
Goat of Dover Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 166	Posted - 2013.05.16 23:41:00 - [58] - Quote BRAIN-MATTER-SPLATTERER NEURALGIA wrote: Surt gods end wrote: what's up dude. feel your pain. But in 4 months when you have a good amount of sp. what happens to the new guy? should we reset every time some one new joins? Don't think it's the same.. what you siding with him? Fine. How about this.. all you new rookies who started same day, are you all going to be on equal level 1 week from now? No. Some will hate the grind like they hate a care bare MMO (looking at you DOTA) and get boosters to shorten that grind. Not paying in a free game? then your left behind. wow.. you put everything into perspective! The ladies love you huh? And I love them. Hi ladies. A fair start at the OFFICIAL LAUNCH DATE WOULD BE NICE! How many beta games have you played where everything you got in the beta carries over to Launch Release? NONE.. Actually I lost a good bit of gear when he came to uprising
konas gut Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 4	Posted - 2013.05.16 23:45:00 - [59] - Quote CCP should actually just double the SP skill requirements and cost of all the gear. This will make it an even playing field for all the players and fix all of these beta issues.
ANON Illuminati A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 41	Posted - 2013.05.16 23:46:00 - [60] - Quote xxMemphis wrote: BRAIN-MATTER-SPLATTERER NEURALGIA wrote: Well exactly what it says up there ^ Almost every game in beta takes away everything you've owned when switching over to the Final Release. Give people who paid their Aurum back, but take away every single skill point that was accumulated during the Beta Phase. Disband all Corporations.. Nothing that was given or made during beta crosses over to the Full Release. It's complete garbage! There's absolutely no use to join a Corp doing battles, because they won't even let you play their corp battles at all unless you have ''PROTO'' Shiyt! or 6 Mill SP! Which you shouldn't even have considering the game just finalized! Everything needs to be taken away, everything needs to be fair! It's absolutely not fair! This universe is lopsided! Those who would like to Petition for a Full Scale Game Reset Quote & Pass your name on. Those who will oppose this idea, solely because it effects them can whine without quoting. Again if you quote you automatically agree to this, no way around it. Sounds like maybe you joined a corp that has rules that your not good enough for. You can also petition for a reset if you like and I am pretty sure they will give it to you. If you take away all the SP earned during the beta phase then you will also need to start finding a way to attract alot of new players because a huge portion of the current player base will leave. The game is not that revolutionary at this point so why grind for a 2nd or 3rd time just to get the same game they have been playing all along or just petition for a new corp that always works. if they wont let you in corp battles and arent training you for such matters then looks to me like sp isnt the issue its your corp leaders and officers... get that worked out 1st. proto has nothing to do with skill. i mean weapon damage does a bit but if your a true fps player then the power of a weapon cannot beat tactics.



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