Turn on friendly fire, CCP. Give us consequences for our mistakes in all game modes.

+1
-100 WP for teamkill (except for AFKers)

Turn on friendly fire, CCP. Give us consequences for our mistakes in all game modes.

Yes please. Some of my non-MAG guys could struggle in PC due to not being "prepped" correctly.

What they're saying is they need to implement the deterrents and consequences first, so i'm pretty sure our discussion needs to start THERE. Its valid...we want to eliminate unlimited griefing.

So how do we police it/ provide deterrents?

DISCUSS.

I would personally spend every game killing my allies. yes ccp do this please!

Friendly Fire doesn't need to be turned on for all damage but there are definite places where it should be turned on.

Precision strikes, getting run over by vehicles... pretty much anything other than light/heavy weapon damage just to avoid massacres involving people that can't aim.

Turn on friendly fire, CCP. Give us consequences for our mistakes in all game modes.

I'll TK you constantly in your proto suit.

I wouldn't mind if there were separate modes with FF on, but just integrating them to everything, I'd go against it, with no real incentive to not shoot your allies, people will kill for the smallest of reasons.
I can imagine now...

*Starts hacking anything*
- Shot so they get the WP -

*Waiting on a vehicle*
- Shot/ Sniped so they can steal it -

*Gets to AA Gun*
- Shot so they can use it -

*Gets on a vehicle as a passenger*
- Shot because they wanted a spot/ that specific spot -

*Stays on MCC for more than 5 secs for whatever reason*
- Shot because they think you're afk -

*In the same team as someone in a rival corp/ alliance*
- Shot because they don't like you -

*Gets a good spot that has good view and cover*
- Shot so they can stay there instead -

*In a match with both teams have players of same corp/ alliance*
- Shot because traitor/ so the other team wins -

*Minding your own business*
- Shot because no reason, shot because other player is a jerk, shot because other player is new/ didn't know -

*Someone somewhere in your team going "Hehe check it out, this is gonna be funny"*
- Shot -

You think regular matches are not friendly to newcomers NOW, imagine how it could get with FF on.
Even if they implemented some penalty and whatnot, people would make alts, or a different account altogether.

At least if it has its own dedicated mode for it, people will be expecting it and ready for it.

I'm all for more FF in games. I do want to see -100 WP for a friendly kill and maybe some audio indicator when your are shooting friendlies. After 5 FF kills, I also think you should get booted from the game with no ISK.

It might also be an idea to bill the TKer for the suits the clones they destroyed and reimburse the victims.

Might also be a good idea for an audio announcement to tell the team that is being TKed to "Take Caution, [INSERT_TKER_CLONES_NAME_HERE] is displaying defective qualities, they should be avoided or decommissioned" though only if they kill more than 1 or 2.

@ZDub 303

I like the idea of paying for your blue kills, though I think it should be more of a fine. TKer pays CONCORD value of blue kill*1.25, CONCORD reimburses victim for 75% of loss (maybe less, something akin to insurance payouts)

at MOST it should be a whole new game mode... dont implement it and screw around with the existing ones .


maybe call it Chaos or Traitors Function (like my corp name, join :-* )

Turn on friendly fire, CCP. Give us consequences for our mistakes in all game modes.

We have always supported using CONCORD and other mechanics to provide deterrents for griefing while keeping FF on. EVE is deep. Use the lore whenever possible. It helps with immersion.

Penalties: -100 WP for killing a friendly. This is pretty basic. basic deterrent.

Fines: Kill friendlies in a hi or lo sec match and and see a 10-50M CONCORD fine in your end game screen. still want to team kill? no money? say hello to negative ISK. better deterrent.

CONCORD Bounties: in null sec, have CONCORD take out bounties on griefers in the realm of 10-50M ISK, allow mercs [bounty hunters] to accept these contracts and hire locator agents to follow their bounties into one game. there the targets name will appear in yellow when seen and a portion of the bounty is earned for each time the player is slain, with the full bounty paid out at 5 kills or more. If a TKers bounty is collected he then is subject to a fine by CONCORD. this allows a deterrent but also incentivizes players and allows the playerbase to police TKing to an extent. At the very least it creates a BH profession and allows varies the experience for solo players and slayer types.

Clone Deactivation: the lore supports this. in Templar One T3 malfunctioned and had his clone deactivated. three friendly kills and your clone is automatically deactivated.

Kick or Forgive: kill a player once and get a mulligan. Kill him again in the same game and he gets the option to deactivate your clone.

TKs are another instance where no mcc cmdr and ground platoon leader hurts the game. the officers overseeing the battle would be the ones dealing with treachery or malfunctioning clones.

Yes, just so I can shoot the OP.

Grow the **** up people.. If a teammate threw a grenade at an enemy 20 feet in front of you & you decided to go over & lay on top of it, that would be solely your fault.
Or while someone has eyes on a target & is shooting at them, you wouldn't just commit suicide by being a moronic dumb dumb stepping right in front of a gun dist bursting bullets would you?

OH this is total bs... but enemies can blow up one of my lavs right in their FACE and not sustain any damage, ud have to fix that if u fix friendly fire SAME concept....