DUST Search - List of [hilarious] drop-ship bugs that exist in "release"!

Nguruthos IX wrote:

Garrett Blacknova wrote:

Nguruthos IX wrote:

1. (NEW) All turrets cannot aim anywhere near the bottom or front of the ship. Turret will be snapped into a new position aiming front and level. This was part of their failed attempt at stopping missiles from hitting their own dropships.

Given the timing, I suspect this reason you gave is incorrect, and that it's actually part of the fix to tank turrets, which had their firing arcs basically inverted from what they should have been - able to fire down much lower than they should reach, but unable to aim up correctly. The fix to this happened in the same update which broke Dropship turret aiming, so it's possible the problem is with these two turret firing arcs being bound together.

No, they were trying to draw an area around parts of the ship so the turret couldn't aim there. The top half of those parts kind of works but anything you aim at half way near the bottom or front of the ship (like 20% of all aiming area with the turret) gets locked into resetting the gun above that area on the ship they want you shooting over instead of at.

Hop in a turret, give it a whirl. Report back, you'll see

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Nguruthos IX Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 459	Posted - 2013.05.16 04:16:00 - [1] - Quote 1. (NEW) All turrets cannot aim anywhere near the bottom or front of the ship. Turret will be snapped into a new position aiming front and level. This was part of their failed attempt at stopping missiles from hitting their own dropships. 2. Missiles still hit their dropships 90% of the time. Especially when moving at all. If they don't hit the ship they go everywhere. 3. If a turret gunner is in a turret when he get's shot dead he will NOT be able to re-enter the drop-ship for the rest of the match. The dropship will be invisible to him as well. Nice one! 4. If you are in a dropship, park on top a structure, and press start... The ship will instantly and spontaniously explode for all it's health killing it and you. GG 1.5 million ISK dropships...which reminds me 5. Patch notes stated a reduction in dropship prices. Instead all that the patch really contained was an increase in turret prices. Turrets that don't work, which shoot the ship, which if the gunner is shot out of, he may not re-enter and which will blow up all together if you have the urge to glance at your map for some reason while flying. All this in mind they decided dropships should not benefit from the vehicle HP increase given to every other vehicle. But SHOULD suffer the skills nerf to HP (Shield and armor 25% each), a reduction in all turret skill dmg bonus( by half), and a reduction in PG by 25% as per skill change. So, have fun being rail-gunned by a turret installation deep within enemy red-line! Have fun being sniped by redline rail tanks. Have fun eating the front end of installations ridiculously impeccable aiming AI. Enjoy being worse than 2 shot by forge guns out of nowhere. Enjoy paying for all that as well. Enjoy the Free LAV's being called in with more survivability than you. Enjoy their RDV's that will collide with you out of nowhere sinking another 2 million ISK bite mark into your wallet. Enjoy having hacked-EX grenades lobbed at you if you come near the ground....For the next 10 years because every player bought about 10,000 of them before they were removed from market. Enjoy CCP telling you these things will be fixed or made better for another year while they continuously do the opposite of that. Enjoy your assault drop-ship front turrets fighting against you to aim upwards with all their willpower. Enjoy not being needed by anyone on the ground because a LAV will get you there faster and safer, and it's free. Enjoy not being wanted in PC because you're just a big, worthless, buggy, flying liability. Nerfed and left for dead. Enjoy! Is there anything else I'm forgetting?
NeoWraith Acedia Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 463	Posted - 2013.05.16 04:22:00 - [2] - Quote Hey, you're waiting for them to fix dropships, I'm waiting for speeders and jets, it's practically the same thing. I'd stick to militia dropships and spec into a role that's actually useful in the meantime.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 3017	Posted - 2013.05.16 04:31:00 - [3] - Quote Nguruthos IX wrote: 1. (NEW) All turrets cannot aim anywhere near the bottom or front of the ship. Turret will be snapped into a new position aiming front and level. This was part of their failed attempt at stopping missiles from hitting their own dropships. Given the timing, I suspect this reason you gave is incorrect, and that it's actually part of the fix to tank turrets, which had their firing arcs basically inverted from what they should have been - able to fire down much lower than they should reach, but unable to aim up correctly. The fix to this happened in the same update which broke Dropship turret aiming, so it's possible the problem is with these two turret firing arcs being bound together.
Nguruthos IX Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 459	Posted - 2013.05.16 04:37:00 - [4] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: Nguruthos IX wrote: 1. (NEW) All turrets cannot aim anywhere near the bottom or front of the ship. Turret will be snapped into a new position aiming front and level. This was part of their failed attempt at stopping missiles from hitting their own dropships. Given the timing, I suspect this reason you gave is incorrect, and that it's actually part of the fix to tank turrets, which had their firing arcs basically inverted from what they should have been - able to fire down much lower than they should reach, but unable to aim up correctly. The fix to this happened in the same update which broke Dropship turret aiming, so it's possible the problem is with these two turret firing arcs being bound together. No, they were trying to draw an area around parts of the ship so the turret couldn't aim there. The top half of those parts kind of works but anything you aim at half way near the bottom or front of the ship (like 20% of all aiming area with the turret) gets locked into resetting the gun above that area on the ship they want you shooting over instead of at. Hop in a turret, give it a whirl. Report back, you'll see
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 3017	Posted - 2013.05.16 04:40:00 - [5] - Quote Nguruthos IX wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: Nguruthos IX wrote: 1. (NEW) All turrets cannot aim anywhere near the bottom or front of the ship. Turret will be snapped into a new position aiming front and level. This was part of their failed attempt at stopping missiles from hitting their own dropships. Given the timing, I suspect this reason you gave is incorrect, and that it's actually part of the fix to tank turrets, which had their firing arcs basically inverted from what they should have been - able to fire down much lower than they should reach, but unable to aim up correctly. The fix to this happened in the same update which broke Dropship turret aiming, so it's possible the problem is with these two turret firing arcs being bound together. No, they were trying to draw an area around parts of the ship so the turret couldn't aim there. The top half of those parts kind of works but anything you aim at half way near the bottom or front of the ship (like 20% of all aiming area with the turret) gets locked into resetting the gun above that area on the ship they want you shooting over instead of at. Hop in a turret, give it a whirl. Report back, you'll see Oh, sorry. I've heard things about the nose gun on Assault Dropships, and thought that was what you meant. Don't mind me. Have another friendly bump... and the +1 I forgot on my first time through.
Djheffer O.Q.R.D. 8	Posted - 2013.05.16 04:58:00 - [6] - Quote Now that I can look up in my tank, I love dropships! lol but i agree they could use some love. Like a crap ton of love. Like so much love that they are rewarding to play! So much love that I would possibly consider playing one haha
CommanderBolt A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 17	Posted - 2013.05.16 06:32:00 - [7] - Quote Hence my friend, why we are so vocal about a skills respec. I spent nearlly 9m sp in dropships and I totally understand you and agree. At the time the skill bar also only showed the SP for the last prerequisite level, not the entirety of the skills needed. You could say that was my fault for assuming but its killed my enjoyment for this game. To be honest the feel of the game is totally different now and its not the same good feel i got from chromosome. The fact free LAV`s had a respectable HP buff and our dropships got a reduction! I could not believe my eyes. 'Assault Dropship' - Doesn't that imply it can handle an assault? (hence being tough? lol yea right)
Nguruthos IX Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 463	Posted - 2013.05.16 06:45:00 - [8] - Quote Know why you're not hearing about this from anyone? Because nobody is using drop-ships. Know why nobody is using dropships? Take a guess.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3071	Posted - 2013.05.16 06:48:00 - [9] - Quote Optional respec. Do it while you can. It took them over a YEAR to fix logistics ships, and that was just a stat change...(and they managed to butcher their handling in the process )
Nguruthos IX Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 463	Posted - 2013.05.16 06:50:00 - [10] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Optional respec. Do it while you can. It took them over a YEAR to fix logistics ships, and that was just a stat change...(and they managed to butcher their handling in the process ) Can you link me to the thread that had the info on that? The title you were supposed to put in the ticket? If you don't have it bookmarked then don't bother I'll scour the Internets for it in a bit

DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3071	Posted - 2013.05.16 06:53:00 - [11] - Quote God Speed
Nguruthos IX Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 464	Posted - 2013.05.16 07:04:00 - [12] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: God Speed Thanks. They should sticky a thread for pilots and just put that link in it :P
Rusty Shallows Black Jackals 70	Posted - 2013.05.16 07:08:00 - [13] - Quote Nguruthos IX wrote: Is there anything else I'm forgetting? Not enough LAV BPO sarcasm. Like how the free LAVs can now tank some FG Heavy fits, dodge the fire better, and run Heavies over while you might explode trying the same thing. Thank you for the post Nguruthos this is how to do raging right.
NeoWraith Acedia Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 465	Posted - 2013.05.16 07:08:00 - [14] - Quote Do not under any circumstances spec into dropships again, wait until the other variants come, and then only use militia ones to see if they actually work.
Klark Morrigan DUST University Ivy League 23	Posted - 2013.05.16 07:23:00 - [15] - Quote Nguruthos IX wrote: Is there anything else I'm forgetting? Flaylock Pistol has push force equivalent to a rail projectile, having approximate range similar to the one of AV grenades. Intel provided by the courtesy of trolling blueberries. Rather short and subjective experience - haven't been seeing too many folks in the mood to gun lately.
Nguruthos IX Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 465	Posted - 2013.05.16 07:28:00 - [16] - Quote Klark Morrigan wrote: Nguruthos IX wrote: Is there anything else I'm forgetting? Flaylock Pistol has push force equivalent to a rail projectile, having approximate range similar to the one of AV grenades. Intel provided by the courtesy of trolling blueberries. Rather short and subjective experience - haven't been seeing too many folks in the mood to gun lately. Might be becase... the turrets are all bugged to hell. I tried and I can't stand to do it anymore. Neither can anyone else I know. That's good to know. Also I suspect the charge shot of new laser rifle might as well. That's neither here nor there. Bet it rips shields off good though too.
Klark Morrigan DUST University Ivy League 24	Posted - 2013.05.16 08:02:00 - [17] - Quote Well, I'm getting one, maybe two gunship matches per evening on average, out of eight or six. It's decent fun though, but I really need to work on angles now, taking handling and firing arcs into account. For the rest of the matches I'm welcome to do my own thing, be it overwatch, serving as a floating CRU out of harm's way or close to the frontlines, missile sniping, or eryxing snipers and mad ex-sniper swarmers.
Vyzion Eyri The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION 658	Posted - 2013.05.16 08:09:00 - [18] - Quote Nguruthos IX wrote: Is there anything else I'm forgetting? Dropships are infantry mobile deployment vehicles; complaints about the dropship here are angled towards them being used as a gunship, which isn't the intended role at all.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3072	Posted - 2013.05.16 08:11:00 - [19] - Quote Vyzion Eyri wrote: Nguruthos IX wrote: Is there anything else I'm forgetting? Dropships are infantry mobile deployment vehicles; complaints about the dropship here are angled towards them being used as a gunship, which isn't the intended role at all. The dropship doesn't have an intended role, as indicated by the lack of WP for role related activities, or the lack of durability in the face of free AV turrets and equipment. Also, if it was actually a transport and not a gunship, you wouldn't be forced to put turrets on it
Klark Morrigan DUST University Ivy League 24	Posted - 2013.05.16 08:19:00 - [20] - Quote Vyzion Eyri wrote: Nguruthos IX wrote: Is there anything else I'm forgetting? Dropships are infantry mobile deployment vehicles; complaints about the dropship here are angled towards them being used as a gunship, which isn't the intended role at all. I had been doing that early in Chromosome, but I couldn't strip turrets off my hardpoints (neither can I do that now) which ended up with liable blueberries using the transport as a gunship. Neither did I get any incentive or enjoyment to keep transporting under the circumstances. Stripped MCRU off instead and went hunting with gunners - more WTF reaction, more points, more fun. Nowadays I fly Eryx just because it's most tanky.

Nguruthos IX Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 465	Posted - 2013.05.16 09:12:00 - [21] - Quote bed time. time to dream of hotfixes
Vyzion Eyri The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION 660	Posted - 2013.05.16 09:17:00 - [22] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Vyzion Eyri wrote: Nguruthos IX wrote: Is there anything else I'm forgetting? Dropships are infantry mobile deployment vehicles; complaints about the dropship here are angled towards them being used as a gunship, which isn't the intended role at all. The dropship doesn't have an intended role, as indicated by the lack of WP for role related activities, or the lack of durability in the face of free AV turrets and equipment. Also, if it was actually a transport and not a gunship, you wouldn't be forced to put turrets on it Simply fit cheap turrets. And I have suggested WP to make the role of a dropship more apparent, mostly here. I'm too lazy to bother with it now; someone can update the thread by making a new one for Uprising if you so wish.
Nguruthos IX Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 469	Posted - 2013.05.16 18:45:00 - [23] - Quote Did that latest 4 megabyte patch add any other DS bugs today? Other than the obvious fact that some of us now can't log in at all. "Bad internet weather" says CCP.
Bungholio Cornholio Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 2	Posted - 2013.05.16 19:01:00 - [24] - Quote I can't even fly the damn ships anymore since the update. I seem to just fly backwards, barrel roll and crash. Any good fan made tutorials on piloting? I'm all for making things interesting and complicated, but crap this is ridiculous.
Nguruthos IX Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 478	Posted - 2013.05.16 19:07:00 - [25] - Quote Bungholio Cornholio wrote: I can't even fly the damn ships anymore since the update. I seem to just fly backwards, barrel roll and crash. Any good fan made tutorials on piloting? I'm all for making things interesting and complicated, but crap this is ridiculous. They did seem to add some odd extra weight to the front end of ships. If you try to fly straight up vertically, after not too long the ship will roll head over back. I don't recall it doing that before.
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 1679	Posted - 2013.05.16 19:14:00 - [26] - Quote Every DS but the python handles like a pig, but it's just a case of getting used to it, takes awhile but you should be able to fly pretty well once you get the hang of it. The extra weight to the controls of the logi ,militia and standard ships is annoying though, feels like you have to haul the controls with all your strength to get them anywhere, good immersion though, and propulsion mods help.
Nguruthos IX Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 494	Posted - 2013.05.16 21:42:00 - [27] - Quote Can't wait for that skill respec.
CommanderBolt A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 18	Posted - 2013.05.17 06:48:00 - [28] - Quote Vyzion Eyri wrote: Nguruthos IX wrote: Is there anything else I'm forgetting? Dropships are infantry mobile deployment vehicles; complaints about the dropship here are angled towards them being used as a gunship, which isn't the intended role at all. For the standard dropship? Yes I somewhat agree with you. However its the same story with 'Assault' Dropships. The name should tell you everything you need to know. The fact the pilot has a turret is a good indication of its intended role. To which i've have some ~limited~ success with the proto fragmented launcher, and to a lesser extent the cycled 3 burst missiles.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3080	Posted - 2013.05.17 06:52:00 - [29] - Quote Nguruthos IX wrote: Can't wait for that skill respec. Almost broke my controller earlier, looking forward to going full AR slayer and pretending like I'm good cuz I have a good KDR
Nguruthos IX Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 495	Posted - 2013.05.17 06:55:00 - [30] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Nguruthos IX wrote: Can't wait for that skill respec. Almost broke my controller earlier, looking forward to going full AR slayer and pretending like I'm good cuz I have a good KDR I'm on the verge of DS retirement. One too many RDV's to the head. I did get hand-cramps recently from that horrible front turret so maybe a couple days to cool down and (don't laugh) a couple hot fixes soon might help.



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