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Nguruthos IX
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.05.16 04:16:00 -
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1. (NEW) All turrets cannot aim anywhere near the bottom or front of the ship. Turret will be snapped into a new position aiming front and level. This was part of their failed attempt at stopping missiles from hitting their own dropships.
2. Missiles still hit their dropships 90% of the time. Especially when moving at all. If they don't hit the ship they go everywhere.
3. If a turret gunner is in a turret when he get's shot dead he will NOT be able to re-enter the drop-ship for the rest of the match. The dropship will be invisible to him as well. Nice one!
4. If you are in a dropship, park on top a structure, and press start... The ship will instantly and spontaniously explode for all it's health killing it and you. GG 1.5 million ISK dropships...which reminds me
5. Patch notes stated a reduction in dropship prices. Instead all that the patch really contained was an increase in turret prices. Turrets that don't work, which shoot the ship, which if the gunner is shot out of, he may not re-enter and which will blow up all together if you have the urge to glance at your map for some reason while flying.
All this in mind they decided dropships should not benefit from the vehicle HP increase given to every other vehicle. But SHOULD suffer the skills nerf to HP (Shield and armor 25% each), a reduction in all turret skill dmg bonus( by half), and a reduction in PG by 25% as per skill change.
So, have fun being rail-gunned by a turret installation deep within enemy red-line! Have fun being sniped by redline rail tanks. Have fun eating the front end of installations ridiculously impeccable aiming AI. Enjoy being worse than 2 shot by forge guns out of nowhere. Enjoy paying for all that as well. Enjoy the Free LAV's being called in with more survivability than you. Enjoy their RDV's that will collide with you out of nowhere sinking another 2 million ISK bite mark into your wallet. Enjoy having hacked-EX grenades lobbed at you if you come near the ground....For the next 10 years because every player bought about 10,000 of them before they were removed from market. Enjoy CCP telling you these things will be fixed or made better for another year while they continuously do the opposite of that. Enjoy your assault drop-ship front turrets fighting against you to aim upwards with all their willpower. Enjoy not being needed by anyone on the ground because a LAV will get you there faster and safer, and it's free. Enjoy not being wanted in PC because you're just a big, worthless, buggy, flying liability. Nerfed and left for dead. Enjoy!
Is there anything else I'm forgetting? |
NeoWraith Acedia
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
463
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Posted - 2013.05.16 04:22:00 -
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Hey, you're waiting for them to fix dropships, I'm waiting for speeders and jets, it's practically the same thing. I'd stick to militia dropships and spec into a role that's actually useful in the meantime. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
3017
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Posted - 2013.05.16 04:31:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:1. (NEW) All turrets cannot aim anywhere near the bottom or front of the ship. Turret will be snapped into a new position aiming front and level. This was part of their failed attempt at stopping missiles from hitting their own dropships. Given the timing, I suspect this reason you gave is incorrect, and that it's actually part of the fix to tank turrets, which had their firing arcs basically inverted from what they should have been - able to fire down much lower than they should reach, but unable to aim up correctly. The fix to this happened in the same update which broke Dropship turret aiming, so it's possible the problem is with these two turret firing arcs being bound together. |
Nguruthos IX
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
459
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Posted - 2013.05.16 04:37:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:1. (NEW) All turrets cannot aim anywhere near the bottom or front of the ship. Turret will be snapped into a new position aiming front and level. This was part of their failed attempt at stopping missiles from hitting their own dropships. Given the timing, I suspect this reason you gave is incorrect, and that it's actually part of the fix to tank turrets, which had their firing arcs basically inverted from what they should have been - able to fire down much lower than they should reach, but unable to aim up correctly. The fix to this happened in the same update which broke Dropship turret aiming, so it's possible the problem is with these two turret firing arcs being bound together.
No, they were trying to draw an area around parts of the ship so the turret couldn't aim there. The top half of those parts kind of works but anything you aim at half way near the bottom or front of the ship (like 20% of all aiming area with the turret) gets locked into resetting the gun above that area on the ship they want you shooting over instead of at.
Hop in a turret, give it a whirl. Report back, you'll see |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
3017
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Posted - 2013.05.16 04:40:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:1. (NEW) All turrets cannot aim anywhere near the bottom or front of the ship. Turret will be snapped into a new position aiming front and level. This was part of their failed attempt at stopping missiles from hitting their own dropships. Given the timing, I suspect this reason you gave is incorrect, and that it's actually part of the fix to tank turrets, which had their firing arcs basically inverted from what they should have been - able to fire down much lower than they should reach, but unable to aim up correctly. The fix to this happened in the same update which broke Dropship turret aiming, so it's possible the problem is with these two turret firing arcs being bound together. No, they were trying to draw an area around parts of the ship so the turret couldn't aim there. The top half of those parts kind of works but anything you aim at half way near the bottom or front of the ship (like 20% of all aiming area with the turret) gets locked into resetting the gun above that area on the ship they want you shooting over instead of at. Hop in a turret, give it a whirl. Report back, you'll see Oh, sorry. I've heard things about the nose gun on Assault Dropships, and thought that was what you meant.
Don't mind me.
Have another friendly bump... and the +1 I forgot on my first time through. |
Djheffer
O.Q.R.D.
8
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Posted - 2013.05.16 04:58:00 -
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Now that I can look up in my tank, I love dropships! lol but i agree they could use some love. Like a crap ton of love. Like so much love that they are rewarding to play! So much love that I would possibly consider playing one haha |
CommanderBolt
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
17
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Posted - 2013.05.16 06:32:00 -
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Hence my friend, why we are so vocal about a skills respec. I spent nearlly 9m sp in dropships and I totally understand you and agree.
At the time the skill bar also only showed the SP for the last prerequisite level, not the entirety of the skills needed. You could say that was my fault for assuming but its killed my enjoyment for this game.
To be honest the feel of the game is totally different now and its not the same good feel i got from chromosome.
The fact free LAV`s had a respectable HP buff and our dropships got a reduction! I could not believe my eyes. 'Assault Dropship' - Doesn't that imply it can handle an assault? (hence being tough? lol yea right) |
Nguruthos IX
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
463
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Posted - 2013.05.16 06:45:00 -
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Know why you're not hearing about this from anyone?
Because nobody is using drop-ships.
Know why nobody is using dropships?
Take a guess. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
3071
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Posted - 2013.05.16 06:48:00 -
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Optional respec.
Do it while you can.
It took them over a YEAR to fix logistics ships, and that was just a stat change...(and they managed to butcher their handling in the process ) |
Nguruthos IX
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
463
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Posted - 2013.05.16 06:50:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Optional respec. Do it while you can. It took them over a YEAR to fix logistics ships, and that was just a stat change...(and they managed to butcher their handling in the process )
Can you link me to the thread that had the info on that? The title you were supposed to put in the ticket? If you don't have it bookmarked then don't bother I'll scour the Internets for it in a bit |
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
3071
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Posted - 2013.05.16 06:53:00 -
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God Speed |
Nguruthos IX
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
464
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Posted - 2013.05.16 07:04:00 -
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Thanks. They should sticky a thread for pilots and just put that link in it :P |
Rusty Shallows
Black Jackals
70
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Posted - 2013.05.16 07:08:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:Is there anything else I'm forgetting? Not enough LAV BPO sarcasm. Like how the free LAVs can now tank some FG Heavy fits, dodge the fire better, and run Heavies over while you might explode trying the same thing.
Thank you for the post Nguruthos this is how to do raging right. |
NeoWraith Acedia
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
465
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Posted - 2013.05.16 07:08:00 -
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Do not under any circumstances spec into dropships again, wait until the other variants come, and then only use militia ones to see if they actually work. |
Klark Morrigan
DUST University Ivy League
23
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Posted - 2013.05.16 07:23:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:Is there anything else I'm forgetting? Flaylock Pistol has push force equivalent to a rail projectile, having approximate range similar to the one of AV grenades. Intel provided by the courtesy of trolling blueberries. Rather short and subjective experience - haven't been seeing too many folks in the mood to gun lately. |
Nguruthos IX
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
465
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Posted - 2013.05.16 07:28:00 -
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Klark Morrigan wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:Is there anything else I'm forgetting? Flaylock Pistol has push force equivalent to a rail projectile, having approximate range similar to the one of AV grenades. Intel provided by the courtesy of trolling blueberries. Rather short and subjective experience - haven't been seeing too many folks in the mood to gun lately.
Might be becase... the turrets are all bugged to hell. I tried and I can't stand to do it anymore. Neither can anyone else I know.
That's good to know. Also I suspect the charge shot of new laser rifle might as well. That's neither here nor there. Bet it rips shields off good though too. |
Klark Morrigan
DUST University Ivy League
24
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Posted - 2013.05.16 08:02:00 -
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Well, I'm getting one, maybe two gunship matches per evening on average, out of eight or six. It's decent fun though, but I really need to work on angles now, taking handling and firing arcs into account.
For the rest of the matches I'm welcome to do my own thing, be it overwatch, serving as a floating CRU out of harm's way or close to the frontlines, missile sniping, or eryxing snipers and mad ex-sniper swarmers. |
Vyzion Eyri
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
658
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Posted - 2013.05.16 08:09:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote: Is there anything else I'm forgetting?
Dropships are infantry mobile deployment vehicles; complaints about the dropship here are angled towards them being used as a gunship, which isn't the intended role at all. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
3072
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Posted - 2013.05.16 08:11:00 -
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Vyzion Eyri wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote: Is there anything else I'm forgetting?
Dropships are infantry mobile deployment vehicles; complaints about the dropship here are angled towards them being used as a gunship, which isn't the intended role at all.
The dropship doesn't have an intended role, as indicated by the lack of WP for role related activities, or the lack of durability in the face of free AV turrets and equipment.
Also, if it was actually a transport and not a gunship, you wouldn't be forced to put turrets on it
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Klark Morrigan
DUST University Ivy League
24
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Posted - 2013.05.16 08:19:00 -
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Vyzion Eyri wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:Is there anything else I'm forgetting? Dropships are infantry mobile deployment vehicles; complaints about the dropship here are angled towards them being used as a gunship, which isn't the intended role at all. I had been doing that early in Chromosome, but I couldn't strip turrets off my hardpoints (neither can I do that now) which ended up with liable blueberries using the transport as a gunship. Neither did I get any incentive or enjoyment to keep transporting under the circumstances. Stripped MCRU off instead and went hunting with gunners - more WTF reaction, more points, more fun.
Nowadays I fly Eryx just because it's most tanky. |
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Nguruthos IX
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
465
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Posted - 2013.05.16 09:12:00 -
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bed time. time to dream of hotfixes |
Vyzion Eyri
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
660
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Posted - 2013.05.16 09:17:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Vyzion Eyri wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote: Is there anything else I'm forgetting?
Dropships are infantry mobile deployment vehicles; complaints about the dropship here are angled towards them being used as a gunship, which isn't the intended role at all. The dropship doesn't have an intended role, as indicated by the lack of WP for role related activities, or the lack of durability in the face of free AV turrets and equipment. Also, if it was actually a transport and not a gunship, you wouldn't be forced to put turrets on it
Simply fit cheap turrets. And I have suggested WP to make the role of a dropship more apparent, mostly here. I'm too lazy to bother with it now; someone can update the thread by making a new one for Uprising if you so wish. |
Nguruthos IX
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
469
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Posted - 2013.05.16 18:45:00 -
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Did that latest 4 megabyte patch add any other DS bugs today? Other than the obvious fact that some of us now can't log in at all. "Bad internet weather" says CCP. |
Bungholio Cornholio
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2013.05.16 19:01:00 -
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I can't even fly the damn ships anymore since the update. I seem to just fly backwards, barrel roll and crash. Any good fan made tutorials on piloting? I'm all for making things interesting and complicated, but crap this is ridiculous. |
Nguruthos IX
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
478
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Posted - 2013.05.16 19:07:00 -
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Bungholio Cornholio wrote:I can't even fly the damn ships anymore since the update. I seem to just fly backwards, barrel roll and crash. Any good fan made tutorials on piloting? I'm all for making things interesting and complicated, but crap this is ridiculous.
They did seem to add some odd extra weight to the front end of ships.
If you try to fly straight up vertically, after not too long the ship will roll head over back. I don't recall it doing that before. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
1679
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Posted - 2013.05.16 19:14:00 -
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Every DS but the python handles like a pig, but it's just a case of getting used to it, takes awhile but you should be able to fly pretty well once you get the hang of it. The extra weight to the controls of the logi ,militia and standard ships is annoying though, feels like you have to haul the controls with all your strength to get them anywhere, good immersion though, and propulsion mods help. |
Nguruthos IX
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
494
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Posted - 2013.05.16 21:42:00 -
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Can't wait for that skill respec.
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CommanderBolt
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
18
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Posted - 2013.05.17 06:48:00 -
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Vyzion Eyri wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote: Is there anything else I'm forgetting?
Dropships are infantry mobile deployment vehicles; complaints about the dropship here are angled towards them being used as a gunship, which isn't the intended role at all.
For the standard dropship? Yes I somewhat agree with you.
However its the same story with 'Assault' Dropships.
The name should tell you everything you need to know. The fact the pilot has a turret is a good indication of its intended role. To which i've have some ~limited~ success with the proto fragmented launcher, and to a lesser extent the cycled 3 burst missiles. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
3080
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Posted - 2013.05.17 06:52:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:Can't wait for that skill respec.
Almost broke my controller earlier, looking forward to going full AR slayer and pretending like I'm good cuz I have a good KDR |
Nguruthos IX
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
495
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Posted - 2013.05.17 06:55:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:Can't wait for that skill respec.
Almost broke my controller earlier, looking forward to going full AR slayer and pretending like I'm good cuz I have a good KDR I'm on the verge of DS retirement. One too many RDV's to the head. I did get hand-cramps recently from that horrible front turret so maybe a couple days to cool down and (don't laugh) a couple hot fixes soon might help. |
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Kekklian Noobatronic
Goonfeet
25
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Posted - 2013.05.17 07:26:00 -
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If you go in to PC, and hop in a Derpship, be sure to tell your gunners not to fire..
One of ours did. The result was a fiery death as the missile exploded on the craft and knocked it off course during a tricky landing maneuver.
Lulz ensued. |
Knightshade Belladonna
WH0 G1VSA FL0CK GLOCKS
289
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Posted - 2013.05.17 07:32:00 -
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Kind of off topic in the way you are claiming bugs.. but I have noticed ALOT of dropships getting away with not dying lately, pisses me off too. For some reason if a DS has only 500 health left and you hit it with something doing way more damage the dropship still has a sliver of health left and can manage a landing on roof if to high or even on ground without exploding and can have the dropship recalled then just call back out a fll replenished one.. this is complete bullshit, it should blow the hell up if I hit it with 1500 damag and it only had 500 left, and there is absolutly no reason you should be abkle to call something back wioth such low health.. I watched one guy do this 4 times in a match 2 nights ago as I kept forge blasting the hell out of him |
mollerz
s1ck3r Corp
261
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Posted - 2013.05.17 08:05:00 -
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Dude.. I hate dropships and flying them. They are death traps.
but your post had me LOLing :D
+1 |
Nguruthos IX
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
497
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Posted - 2013.05.17 14:59:00 -
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mollerz wrote:Dude.. I hate dropships and flying them. They are death traps.
but your post had me LOLing :D
+1
Of course all of these have been posted in the bug support forum with no response other than adding more bugs.
Here's the latest aircraft bug :(
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1tkdfGmgDM&feature=player_detailpage#t=11s |
Big Popa Smurff
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
184
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Posted - 2013.05.17 20:05:00 -
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Fix your derpships ccp their no fun to fight against anymore let alone fly one. |
Stefan Stahl
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
77
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Posted - 2013.05.17 20:06:00 -
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Apply optional respec, problem solved. |
Big Popa Smurff
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
184
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Posted - 2013.05.17 20:10:00 -
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Stefan Stahl wrote:Apply optional respec, problem solved. You might as well take them out of the game with that attitude. Whats the point in having them if no one uses em. |
Nguruthos IX
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
504
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Posted - 2013.05.17 20:11:00 -
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Big Popa Smurff wrote:Stefan Stahl wrote:Apply optional respec, problem solved. You might as well take them out of the game with that attitude. Whats the point in having them if no one uses em.
I mean, I could say the same to anything. Lets take every fitting in the game, bug, break and nerf it into oblivion then create one role that can effectively do anything.
Tell everyone to respec, Why bother fixing the game. |
Stefan Stahl
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
77
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Posted - 2013.05.17 20:12:00 -
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Big Popa Smurff wrote:Stefan Stahl wrote:Apply optional respec, problem solved. You might as well take them out of the game with that attitude. Whats the point in having them if no one uses em. Bingo.
They may introduce dropships again when they make sense within the context of the game. |
Big Popa Smurff
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
184
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Posted - 2013.05.17 20:15:00 -
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A futuristic war game without aircraft? sounds like a joke. |
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Nguruthos IX
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
506
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Posted - 2013.05.17 20:25:00 -
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Big Popa Smurff wrote:A futuristic war game without aircraft? sounds like a joke. Sounds virtually like what we have right now |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
1707
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Posted - 2013.05.17 20:25:00 -
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Big Popa Smurff wrote:A futuristic war game without aircraft? sounds like a joke. Frankly the aircraft themselves are a joke. |
Keeriam Miray
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
10
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Posted - 2013.05.17 20:30:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote: then create one role that can effectively do anything.
They already did that - new "logi-assault" suits, absolutely no need any other role or suits :D |
Foxhound Elite
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
71
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Posted - 2013.05.17 20:30:00 -
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Dropship Pilot here confirming that OP is correct. We're flying coffins. I'm trying to help out my team as much as possible but it's always a let-down.
Fix them, they're the only thing i'm good at in this game. |
Nguruthos IX
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
511
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Posted - 2013.05.17 20:35:00 -
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Keeriam Miray wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote: then create one role that can effectively do anything. They already did that - new "logi-assault" suits, absolutely no need any other role or suits :D
True but can we throw down a few million ISK bet as to which will get fixed first? |
Keeriam Miray
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
10
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Posted - 2013.05.17 20:48:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:Keeriam Miray wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote: then create one role that can effectively do anything. They already did that - new "logi-assault" suits, absolutely no need any other role or suits :D True but can we throw down a few million ISK bet as to which will get fixed first?
Only weapon & suts get their fixes first (as the most demanded), no fixes in near future (few month) for dropships, no need for "Edgar Cayce" mode or bets for that :)
CCP Wolfman's topic can confirm that... |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
3097
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Posted - 2013.05.17 20:50:00 -
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I found a dropship bug.
If you go to the marketplace, you'll notice that you can still purchase dropships.
Hopefully this gets addressed shortly |
Nguruthos IX
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
516
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Posted - 2013.05.17 20:58:00 -
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Keeriam Miray wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:Keeriam Miray wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote: then create one role that can effectively do anything. They already did that - new "logi-assault" suits, absolutely no need any other role or suits :D True but can we throw down a few million ISK bet as to which will get fixed first? Only weapon & suts get their fixes first (as the most demanded), no fixes in near future (few month) for dropships, no need for "Edgar Cayce" mode or bets for that :) CCP Wolfman's topic can confirm that...
of course. The problem is every patch they've introduced i only piling on more DS bugs. Which won't be fixed obviously for half a year. By the time these ones are addressed we'll have a smorgasbord of other issues |
Skihids
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
1363
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Posted - 2013.05.18 05:47:00 -
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Honestly, as a DS pilot I can say there is no current use for a dropship in the game.
The only challenge the game presents us with is shooting the other guy in the face. The answer to every problem is "more gank".
The dropship is capable of doing so many things, but not a one of them are needed because not one of them can apply as much DPS to the enemy's face as cheaply as an Assault suit with an AR.
The only challenge CCP has presented us with is how to clone the other side as fast as possible. You don't need transport, you don't need logistics. What you need is raw DPS, as many Assaults with AR's as you can get.
The dropship, along with Scouts and any other low DPS roles will not be viable unless and until CCP places challenges in the game that can't be answered with "more firepower".
Even if CCP fixed all the bugs a DS pilot would still not be welcome in PC where every player must bring maximum DPS to win. |
Nguruthos IX
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
535
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Posted - 2013.05.19 04:18:00 -
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The worst part is, IF and when they ever do fix any of these bugs. They won't be announced. We'll have to test for ourselves after every patch to see if it's better.
Because in all their threads of uprising bugs they REFUSE to acknowledge any of these I've listed here. While that's funny because
A: half were introduced with uprising.
and
B: I've posted all of them in bug forum multiple times probably.
Yet they have these threads of "Known issues" with uprising and the drop-ship bugs never even land on the list. So they want to pretend it's not here, pretend they didn't have to fix it (in a year when they might) And pretend it never happened.
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Nguruthos IV
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
26
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Posted - 2013.05.22 06:53:00 -
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Hopped in an ADS today and it took off flying like a balloon.
It was as if I was holding the R1 button constantly when I was not. Managed to land it, got out, got back in. It flew up again.
Landed and recalled.
Somehow a control got bugged, it was on the controller, I swapped controllers and nothing was affected on the ground. |
Judy Maat
Rebelles A Quebec Orion Empire
66
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Posted - 2013.06.07 15:30:00 -
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"Enjoy not being needed by anyone on the ground because a LAV will get you there faster and safer, and it's free" this is the fail in map development.. big empty field with no obstacle or rivers or anything make ground vehicle OP and air vehicle useless.
this game is screw-up from the scratch.. map design forgot to take into account balancing vehicles FAIL now what? create actual maps? no just these empty fields? |
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