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Isaa Quade ZionTCD Unclaimed. 125	Posted - 2013.05.16 01:40:00 - [1] - Quote For some reason, trying to use the nanite injector only works when standing over a dead body's legs. Now this, of course, is when it works at all, which is about 50% of the time. In addition to this, the "tap circle to revive teammate" is silly since it only brings the injector out, and doesn't actually just heal the guy. So essentially nanite injectors are great way to die as you run from body to body, circle strafing in the wide open. In total this update has taken the time to revive a person from about a second and a half to five seconds.
ZDub 303 Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 138	Posted - 2013.05.16 01:42:00 - [2] - Quote Isaa Quade wrote: For some reason, trying to use the nanite injector only works when standing over a dead body's legs. Now this, of course, is when it works at all, which is about 50% of the time. In addition to this, the "tap circle to revive teammate" is silly since it only brings the injector out, and doesn't actually just heal the guy. So essentially nanite injectors are great way to die as you run from body to body, circle strafing in the wide open. In total this update has taken the time to revive a person from about a second and a half to five seconds. And of course about 80% of teammates are unrevivable.. period... no amount of strafing in circles up to 5-10m from their body will get the revive.
Spunty Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 22	Posted - 2013.05.16 01:57:00 - [3] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: Isaa Quade wrote: For some reason, trying to use the nanite injector only works when standing over a dead body's legs. Now this, of course, is when it works at all, which is about 50% of the time. In addition to this, the "tap circle to revive teammate" is silly since it only brings the injector out, and doesn't actually just heal the guy. So essentially nanite injectors are great way to die as you run from body to body, circle strafing in the wide open. In total this update has taken the time to revive a person from about a second and a half to five seconds. And of course about 80% of teammates are unrevivable.. period... no amount of strafing in circles up to 5-10m from their body will get the revive. Too damn true. I've started making logi fittings without injectors because of how rarely they work. Might as well use something else.
Delirium Inferno Edoras Corporation 273	Posted - 2013.05.16 02:01:00 - [4] - Quote When the clone is wounded his body is marked server side where his last bit of armor went out. At the same time, rag doll physics are going on locally on your PS3. Where the rag doll ends may not be where the clone actually is. But most the time they ragdoll forward, which is why reviving at around the ankles works.

CCP Draco C C P C C P Alliance 71	Posted - 2013.05.17 04:04:00 - [5] - Quote Hi Mercs, I'd just like to acknowledge that we're aware of this problem and we're looking into various solutions, like allowing the client to do the "hit detection" and the server only make a check if it's reasonably close or not. Cheers, CCP Draco

crazy space 1 Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 1171	Posted - 2013.05.17 04:11:00 - [6] - Quote yes thank you <3 please do the same with mass drivers? <3
Winsaucerer The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION 108	Posted - 2013.05.17 05:11:00 - [7] - Quote I try the legs, but it doesn't always work. I stab around wildly near the body, and sometimes I can find the spot. I'd say I can usually revive about half the people asking for a revive. The rest, I have to give up on and keep playing the game. Very glad to know you're aware of it. That client-side solution sounds like the way to go, as long as it isn't frequently the case that the server and client think the body is in significantly different places.
Abron Garr Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 294	Posted - 2013.05.17 05:15:00 - [8] - Quote Should have used Liberty Medical for your syringe supplier.
2-Ton Twenty-One Imperfects Negative-Feedback 530	Posted - 2013.05.17 05:21:00 - [9] - Quote CCP Draco wrote: Hi Mercs, I'd just like to acknowledge that we're aware of this problem and we're looking into various solutions, like allowing the client to do the "hit detection" and the server only make a check if it's reasonably close or not. Cheers, CCP Draco this game has hit dectection? could have fooled me Why not take the suggestion seriously to use what valve uses for the source engine? https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Source_Multiplayer_Networking Look to the Lag compensation section in particular.
Calroon DeVil Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 23	Posted - 2013.05.17 05:45:00 - [10] - Quote That tech is way above their head. Also, this is sony network and ps3. Not possible with this combination.

m621 zma Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 25	Posted - 2013.05.17 11:44:00 - [11] - Quote CCP Draco wrote: Hi Mercs, I'd just like to acknowledge that we're aware of this problem and we're looking into various solutions, like allowing the client to do the "hit detection" and the server only make a check if it's reasonably close or not. Cheers, CCP Draco You know how it worked in chromosome? Can we not just have that exact same functionality back?
RedBleach LeSanglant Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 208	Posted - 2013.05.17 15:33:00 - [12] - Quote CCP Draco wrote: Hi Mercs, I'd just like to acknowledge that we're aware of this problem and we're looking into various solutions, like allowing the client to do the "hit detection" and the server only make a check if it's reasonably close or not. Cheers, CCP Draco Good idea. I remember that in one thread we talked about expanding the are from the 1foot where you can stab to 3 meters to compensate until a solution was found. It sounds like this is an inbetween with the client and the server - with the ragdoll effect - working towards this end. Well done, I'm excited to see if this works. Thanks
RKKR The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION 22	Posted - 2013.05.17 15:41:00 - [13] - Quote CCP Draco wrote: Hi Mercs, I'd just like to acknowledge that we're aware of this problem and we're looking into various solutions, like allowing the client to do the "hit detection" and the server only make a check if it's reasonably close or not. Cheers, CCP Draco I get this client VS server thing but then how do you explain that sometimes a revive works after stabbing the dead merc for the 5th time in the same place? Also a relevant topic: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=74868&find=unread
Bling Blaine FrontLine-Coalition 67	Posted - 2013.05.17 17:37:00 - [14] - Quote CCP Draco wrote: Hi Mercs, I'd just like to acknowledge that we're aware of this problem and we're looking into various solutions, like allowing the client to do the "hit detection" and the server only make a check if it's reasonably close or not. Cheers, CCP Draco Hey Draco do you know how to use the forums? Because you should really post your thoughts on your fix IN THE BUG REPORTING section where this thread has been active as an ant hill. Cmon man
Bigglesworth McQueen On The Brink CRONOS. 66	Posted - 2013.05.17 17:42:00 - [15] - Quote Am I the only one no longer having issues with reviving? Put live ass to dead mouth, look at crotch, stab. Only had one failed revive today and that was LAV fodder.
KEQ Harbinger KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 24	Posted - 2013.05.17 17:49:00 - [16] - Quote CCP Draco wrote: Hi Mercs, I'd just like to acknowledge that we're aware of this problem and we're looking into various solutions, like allowing the client to do the "hit detection" and the server only make a check if it's reasonably close or not. Cheers, CCP Draco Finally intelligence! Yay!
UFOMG testpilot Valor Coalition RISE of LEGION 0	Posted - 2013.05.23 05:11:00 - [17] - Quote KEQ Harbinger wrote: CCP Draco wrote: Hi Mercs, I'd just like to acknowledge that we're aware of this problem and we're looking into various solutions, like allowing the client to do the "hit detection" and the server only make a check if it's reasonably close or not. Cheers, CCP Draco Finally intelligence! Yay! Maybe not intelligence, but at least it's some information. Making DEV friends with my first post! Hellz yeah!
Commander Tuna KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 33	Posted - 2013.05.23 05:24:00 - [18] - Quote Bigglesworth McQueen wrote: Am I the only one no longer having issues with reviving? Put live ass to dead mouth, look at crotch, stab. Only had one failed revive today and that was LAV fodder. Try reviving one's body on a flight of stairs and tell me that everything is alright.
Zero Harpuia WarRavens 488	Posted - 2013.05.23 05:29:00 - [19] - Quote Commander Tuna wrote: Bigglesworth McQueen wrote: Am I the only one no longer having issues with reviving? Put live ass to dead mouth, look at crotch, stab. Only had one failed revive today and that was LAV fodder. Try reviving one's body on a flight of stairs and tell me that everything is alright. I've noticed it has gotten better, but I wouldn't count on anything near ledges and slopes.
crazy space 1 Unkn0wn Killers 1229	Posted - 2013.05.23 06:13:00 - [20] - Quote CCP Draco wrote: Hi Mercs, I'd just like to acknowledge that we're aware of this problem and we're looking into various solutions, like allowing the client to do the "hit detection" and the server only make a check if it's reasonably close or not. Cheers, CCP Draco I'm sry I'm not buying this bs. It worked last build just revert whatever change you made how did u break it at all ?? How could it take time to fix if it used to work the hell?

Herper Derp DUST University Ivy League 96	Posted - 2013.05.23 08:18:00 - [21] - Quote Forgive me if this is a little naiive, I'm not a programmer or developer in any way, but... If the server knows where the dead body is (as it has to render it to show it), and it knows where the nanite injector is (on the player trying to do the rez) why is the fact that the body may be lying in a different place to where it's been killed even an issue? Surely if the server knows where dead body A is and where player B is it's just a matter of making sure the two coordinates are as close as necessary irrespective of where the death occured and where the rag doll physics sent the body...?
crazy space 1 Unkn0wn Killers 1229	Posted - 2013.05.23 08:35:00 - [22] - Quote yeah it should be easy, it wasn't broken why did they "fix" it?
Skilfer Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 32	Posted - 2013.05.23 09:35:00 - [23] - Quote CCP Draco wrote: Hi Mercs, I'd just like to acknowledge that we're aware of this problem and we're looking into various solutions, like allowing the client to do the "hit detection" and the server only make a check if it's reasonably close or not. Cheers, CCP Draco Perhaps try increasing the radius from the original drop point that the nanite injector will register as the downed teammate, therefore increasing the likelyhood of resurrecting your comrade by stabbing anywhere on the body.
WASTED MERC The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION 9	Posted - 2013.06.09 02:09:00 - [24] - Quote CCP Draco wrote: Hi Mercs, I'd just like to acknowledge that we're aware of this problem and we're looking into various solutions, like allowing the client to do the "hit detection" and the server only make a check if it's reasonably close or not. Cheers, CCP Draco reasonably close??? it should be all client based, client says hit then its a hit BTW it knows where to inject, it gives me the point, direction and distance why cant it just be that point and leave it as that. Just bloody OP the injector and see what happens if injector_distance <= 1m then rez_person = true how hard could it be you already have all the other code functional and working except this last bit I forgot the more AUR suits that die the more money CCP gets, I believe that is the real issue here
Abron Garr Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 408	Posted - 2013.06.09 02:22:00 - [25] - Quote The needle is a piece of junk. I might as well be standing over the corpse shaking monkey bones like that scene from Congo.
WASTED MERC The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION 9	Posted - 2013.06.09 03:56:00 - [26] - Quote We should petition CCP to add monkey bones, they will probably work better as they less logical then a nanite injector
Abron Garr Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 408	Posted - 2013.06.09 04:03:00 - [27] - Quote WASTED MERC wrote: We should petition CCP to add monkey bones, they will probably work better as they less logical then a nanite injector I'd want my merc to shout "Stop eating my sesame cake!" as his forge gun charges.
WASTED MERC The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION 9	Posted - 2013.06.09 04:30:00 - [28] - Quote The merc can be heard saying "goody goody two shoes" as he dances around before getting his head blow off with a shotugn
copy left SyNergy Gaming EoN. 227	Posted - 2013.06.09 04:59:00 - [29] - Quote CCP Draco wrote: Hi Mercs, I'd just like to acknowledge that we're aware of this problem and we're looking into various solutions, like allowing the client to do the "hit detection" and the server only make a check if it's reasonably close or not. Cheers, CCP Draco Why not revert it to the way it was in chromosome (while fixing the "I got hit by an LAV , and even though you can see my body, the revive point is somewhere else stuff) ? It worked fine then, I could reliably revive teamates.
Battle Android Trooper Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 20	Posted - 2013.06.09 05:36:00 - [30] - Quote Abron Garr wrote: The needle is a piece of junk. I might as well be standing over the corpse shaking monkey bones like that scene from Congo. +1!!! I almost fell out of my chair laughing so hard at this!

ICECREAMK1NG WARRIORS 1NC 531	Posted - 2013.06.09 06:29:00 - [31] - Quote Swallow your pride ccp, pick up the phone and ask a proper fps dev to pop over and fix all the broke stuff. No one will mind, you've lost all respect now anyway.


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