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Nyx Linx
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.11.05 11:57:00 -
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Aran Abbas wrote:I support this proposal for vehicle theft.
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Slag Emberforge
Immortal Retribution
114
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Posted - 2013.11.05 15:30:00 -
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Great thread, love the concept, I am not saying that this will always keep me from blowing them up. Buy you better believe if I'd recall a LAV that's full of mods rather than just leaving it to get blown up. |
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kinsho Swords
Caldari State
53
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Posted - 2013.11.05 17:07:00 -
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Nova Knife wrote:As far as I know, it was supposed to be this way already.
When I saw the recall feature at fanfest, the first thing I asked CCP Jian was "Can I use this to steal people's stuff?" He said Yes.
I think it's a bug that it doesn't work with enemy vehicles. But it should definitely add the stuff to your assets if you steal a friendly, non bpo vehicle.
Someone try it and let me know?
So now your purposing and allowing the THIEVERY of team mates vehicles and for those same vehicles to become , another persons salvage ?????
( Shakes his head ) I have nothing to say about that . It just goes to show that those who develop this game DO NOT care about the HARD WORK that one puts into their character , nor DO THEY CARE about our happiness or success .
Shame .... Shame . Now I know and that makes me not even want to deploy a tank or any other vehicle to help in the efforts of a victory . Now I can't even gain PERSONAL enjoyment from working hard and enjoying the fruits of MY labor .
Come with the ignorance people , if you please because I'm sure a lot of you will have something cynical to say to this .
" Doubts are like flies and should be crushed !!!!!! " I hope that I am THE FLY SWATTER of those in my presence .
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Wombat in combat
TeamPlayers
EoN.
136
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Posted - 2013.11.05 17:09:00 -
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+1 And all that is fitted to the vehicle should also be salvaged. I like also the concept Blam! mentioned, to enable downed enemies to be "hacked" or salvaged for loot. |
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kinsho Swords
Caldari State
53
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Posted - 2013.11.05 17:15:00 -
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Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:But where is the balance? I call my DS in and chose a stupid spot. You kill me and keep 1.3 million of assets. How do I as a DS pilot make 1.3 million in ISK or assets from you?
I can't steal your guns or suits. Letting you keep it lets you gain something from a match in a way I cannot. That is not fair. If you can steal my stuff, I need to be able to steal yours. Otherwise we have a situation where those making high risk investments can be robbed by those who are taking no such risk.
How about if i kill you and hold O on your body for 10 seconds, like the hack, I get your suit and can rob you of 500k ISK (to balance for vehicle users loss)? Fair?
The way CCP Blam describes it is unfair. Infantry get the chance to make Millions from vehicles but the pilots of tanks and DS don't, unless we get out or are playing off role. Drawing board.. return to.
A shame that I can ONLY give you ONE like .
" Doubts are like flies and should be crushed !!!!!! " I hope that I am THE FLY SWATTER of those in my presence .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kinsho Swords
Caldari State
53
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Posted - 2013.11.05 17:35:00 -
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Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:Shadow Archeus wrote:The fact that you even said chose a stupid spot.....ergo its not my problem.....pick a better spot......its fair whether u think it is or not Well done for avoiding the content of my post and focusing on a totally irrelevant point. Making an assertion that it's fair without justification is useless. Saying it is fair weather i think so or not is a somewhat weak argument. I can simply reply by saying it is not fair. Now where do we go. Justify your response or be ignored. Ill try help you. Lets say its a great spot, but i disconnect, or it drops on me, or i get pushed far from it by a friendly lav..It makes no difference. You as infantry have a way to make millions of ISK. The Pilot does not. Explain how it is fair that in a match we can both : Kill Get War Points Get Skill Points Earn ISK from battle payments But only you can stay in role and steal millions from me. I'm waiting.
Sir , that's why you are in the position that you are in and thought of as being HIGHLY REGARDED . But I will elaborate with a series of questions ???
Why would those who have developed and created THIS game , who set up a system of checks and balances ( i.e. the skill tree ) allow such ??? What are WE working SO hard for to begin with then ??? What does this say about those making the rules and the fact that they are not , nor can they be held accountable ??? What other changes are in store ??? Is that stable or shows a since of stability ???
What are those who work hard , working for when someone who has done NOTHING but happen to be in a opportunistic place , time and doesn't have the skills for the vehicle , mods , turrets or the additional skill sets that are required to operate some vehicles ( Not to mention the fact that some skills add particular items ... i.e. increase in recharge time or computer and programming usage or a decrease of usage in regards of computer and programming by a particular mod ) , can just by chance acquire your vehicle , mods and turrets and place them in their arsenal for use and yes they happen to be on YOUR team to begin with ???
Use your brains people ( no disrespect intended ) and think , does this really make since ????
" Doubts are like flies and should be crushed !!!!!! " I hope that I am THE FLY SWATTER of those in my presence .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kinsho Swords
Caldari State
53
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Posted - 2013.11.05 17:55:00 -
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This feed just shows that there are SO MANY LAZY , untrustworthy ( has nothing to do with this being a game so don't use that as an excuse , it's just in your nature ) , unhappy ( happy people show respect and are happy for others , where clearly there are so many HATERS here ... don't like the term and feel it's over used and used inappropriately , like SWAG in an attempt to sound cool or hip ) and selfish people who play this game .
GET OUT AND GET YOUR OWN !!!!!! YOU ARE NOT HELPLESS AND MOST OF YOU HAVE BEEN PLAYING THIS GAME SINCE BETA AND FOR THOSE WHO HAVEN'T I CAN UNDERSTAND because that's just how your generation is . Full of non working but wanting to have the fruits of someone else's labor and always out sourcing . This world is coming to an end soon , I can tell . People have no since of self appreciation or since of self worth , just take from someone else what you can WORK and have for yourself . No wonder why these kids these days are the way they are , where they think that they know everything and don't know anything or doesn't listen to anyone because there isn't too many who are trying to set a positive example out there .
Have fun people . That's all you care about and you deserve it but your fun might not be fun for and to someone else but what do you care anyway huh ????
I'm threw preaching .
" Doubts are like flies and should be crushed !!!!!! " I hope that I am THE FLY SWATTER of those in my presence .
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Nonya Bizznizz
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
54
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Posted - 2013.11.05 19:04:00 -
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CCP Blam! wrote:A little tack-on here - it goes without saying that going this route would mean that you wouldn't be able to call in your salvage if you don't have the skills for it. It would work just as any other item you have in your inventory.
I believe that you should be able to recall any vehicle you successfully hack, yet you cannot deploy it until you meet the skill requirement of everything in the fit, for example, if I hijack and recall a Soma fitted with advanced turrets I am not skilled into, I should be able to recall the Soma, and either swap the turrets or skill into them to be able to deploy it. |
Flint Beastgood III
GunFall Mobilization
Covert Intervention
287
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Posted - 2013.11.06 11:08:00 -
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I've always said this should be the case. CCP, please implement this along with the ability to lock our vehicles - the best way would be (as someone else suggested somewhere on these forums) to be able to select who can enter your vehicles (squad/corp/alliance).
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Abu Stij
WaffleDingos
254
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Posted - 2013.11.22 15:45:00 -
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I revive this in light of the new vehicle changes in 1.7 that vehicles should not be protected entities. |
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CLONE117
planetary retaliation organisation
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Posted - 2013.11.22 19:28:00 -
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if this were implemented long ago.
id be the new owner of a lot of enforcer tanks.
but it does have its problems.
so some safe guards to prevent others on your own team from taking your own vehicle could be in place.
although i think what ppl are complaining about here would be the this example.
you lose your tank to an enemy. that same enemy then gets out and dies and your vehicle gets hacked back by some1 else on your team.
that player on your team now gets to keep your vehicle.
although i dont think the player should get to recall the vehicle after hacking it.
it should have to survive for the entire match and retrieved later as salvage. as the vehicle is still owned by the player that...misplaced it.
but at the end of that battle the player who hacked it last could become the new owner of said vehicle. i dont see any problem with this. other than the hoarding of hacked enemy vehicles.
and then theres bpos that could be involved in this.
so lets say a player spawns down a bpo vehicle. and it gets hacked,and salvaged.
the person who salvaged it wont get the bpo but instead gets a bpc of the vehicle instead. |
shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
1004
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Posted - 2013.11.22 19:41:00 -
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I hope they will implement this feature, even if they have fired the blue who tagged this thread, because it's a good idea.
It doesn't happen very much to steal a vehicle, so it should not be a priority but it would be cool to do it.
For example i have a corpmate who has lost more tanks due to disconection than AV and other tanks, 90% of the time, i drive his tank for the rest of the match and i keep it alive, but his tank count as lost and he have to buy another one.
With a feature that allows me to recall his tank, i would be able give the tank back to him and he would save a ton of isk.
"Just another piece of duct tape"
Some love for gunners
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Roger Cordill
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
303
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Posted - 2013.11.22 21:46:00 -
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I would only accept this if the hacker couldn't do this unless they had the skills to drive it, and even then, it should take a long ass time to do it. |
Abu Stij
WaffleDingos
260
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Posted - 2014.01.11 07:48:00 -
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Roger Cordill wrote:I would only accept this if the hacker couldn't do this unless they had the skills to drive it, and even then, it should take a long ass time to do it.
I have pretty much given hope about posting on these forums.
Anyway since I revived this dead thread let me address this. This sort of mechanic is a double negative for the person attempting to loot. You're punishing their attempt to steal the vehicle in two ways; first by requiring they need the appropriate skills just to steal the vehicle and secondly by requiring it to take additional time to hack versus say an objective.
That's a lot of investment/risk versus the reward which, arguably based off the number and types of suits lost trying to hack the vehicle, doesn't even out. I do think a required level of skill in hacking can solve the issue as it requires some level of investment on the players part.
Do You Like Waffles?
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Mr m4gic
XSKvLLX
48
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Posted - 2014.01.11 14:43:00 -
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You can do iiit,
this is definitely something tht needs to be added to the game, it makes complete sense,
it might stop ppl from just, blowing your vehicles up as they would probably do they're best to try and evict you from the vehicle, especially if we can actually start selling our assets as it would be a good way of making profit.
just had another idea tht you could have a fit on your vehicle tht makes it self destruct if it gets hacked.
Have you seen my baseball??
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Draco Cerberus
BurgezzE.T.F
Public Disorder.
677
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Posted - 2014.01.11 17:02:00 -
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There are no reasons that make sense for this not to be in game. Hacking any vehicle should allow you to return it to your inventory. The balance for this is that anyone can do it and if you are going to bring an asset into battle it is possible that you will lose that asset even to one of your team members. Guard your gear and have someone willing to hand it back able to hop in if you get killed.
+1
LogiGod earns his pips
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Sextus Hardcock
0uter.Heaven
194
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Posted - 2014.01.11 21:22:00 -
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+1 nothing bad or exploitable about this idea |
Ghermard-ol Dizeriois
Maphia Clan Corporation
67
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Posted - 2014.01.11 22:14:00 -
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Sextus Hardcock wrote:+1 nothing bad or exploitable about this idea
I think you're not considering FW: let me kill you, steal your PRO tank and call the RDV to save it.
Problem? 
Good for you I don't like tanks, but I'm pretty sure there are many lurkers hiding out there...
If you are an hacker, a cheater o a glitcher, you deserve death. In real life.
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low genius
The Sound Of Freedom
Renegade Alliance
1087
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Posted - 2014.01.12 02:12:00 -
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CCP Blam! wrote:A little tack-on here - it goes without saying that going this route would mean that you wouldn't be able to call in your salvage if you don't have the skills for it. It would work just as any other item you have in your inventory.
the thing I have issue with is: if I kill an aur tank I don't get the payout at the end of that match as if I would have blown up an isk tank. this is totally backwards. aur is more valuable than isk, and I should be paid appropriately when I kill any tank. it's a pain, after all, to kill one. |
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