This is just the starter, if the current areas are controlled by a few corps then CCP will open up more regions to PC. Also if you are trying to go it alone as a small corp good luck ever really breaking into PC. My corp is not small but even we formed an alliance for PC.

Now if you are a small corp that just wants to play high end battles against other corps CCP said they are bringing back prestige fights, so if thats more your style I would bug then about getting that out.

You think we'd let you have a little piece of New Eden all to yourselves? I don't think you quite understand this place.

If you can't take a bit of land by interacting with the other corporations through force, diplomacy or subterfuge, you're not getting your hands on any land. It is not your right, you do not create a corporation and then just say "Okay I made a corp, this place is mine now."

Eventually you will have other ways to earn income, and most "big corps" incomes through PC will help supplement their player's losses.

But, you need at least 50 people to play PC, if you don't, tough luck.

I don't think it will stay that way tho. Some alliances/ corps grabbed more than they can defend in the land grab so I see alot of districs changing hands at first, and thigs calming down later

So I've been thinking about planetary conquest and I have some concerns:

How will small corps or new players down the road ever be able to own their own piece of New Eden?

The answer to this question is obvious but probably impossible: CCP opens up all districts on all planets at the same time. This way the smaller corps can own some land as we can afford the buy in but need the districts to earn it back. Let me put it like this:

Our current model supports big corps. The big corp buys land, earns isk through districts and instant pub matches. The only option small corps have is to earn isk through instand pub matches. This model allows for the big corps to get bigger, faster with everyone else left is the dust (514).

My proposed model would be to open all districts and allow everybody a chance to at least keep up with the big corps to some degree. That's it really. However, this is likely impossible as the load on tranquility will be too great and it feels like CCP are engineering us to fight each other. This would not be a problem but it still leaves out the little guy.

Another thing that comes to mind is that CCP will actually exacerbate this situation, perhaps only opening up one or two systems at a time over a long period of time, allowing the big corps who are already growing bigger from their current districts, to conquer these new systems instantly.

I hope some of you share these concerns.

Sorry to say but at the moment small corps would serve no purpose in PC other than to be absorbed by larger corps.

It's more to do with passively earning all that ISK. They have tough win conditions in order to take a district as well as having to back at least 80 million into an attack. All of the cards are with the defenders as they can try and attack another using the clones they make, and if they fail then it doesn't matter, they generate more clones and do it again.

My point is this: it will be almost impossible to take a district from somebody who owns more than one already. It's also going to be a ridiculous gamble to try and take a district from anyone anyway. Those who got land will keep it, those who missed out will not.

as too the passive isk, much of that will be spent keeping the territories, remember PC is designed to benefit the attacker not defender so even if you could win a territory holding it with out the support of an alliance would be financially straining. It will, in fact, be much easier to break into PC then it will be to hold territory. My corp, on a donation basis, made enough isk in a month to fund the conquering of several districts. That means 2-3 clone packs minimum per district, if that isn't easy entry into PC, I don't know what is.

I under stand your fear but remember opening more area actually makes it harder for small corps not interested in joining and alliance as the the percentage of districts that can be under continuous attack drops, which favors larger groups that can hold more territory and therefore be more likely to have districts that are not under attack and therefore make more isk then the small corp that can only lock out one system, and therefore spend more time and money attacking other less financially stable corps.

If you really want to make a name for your small corp ally with a group of small corps and carve out a system for your self's,

It's more to do with passively earning all that ISK. They have tough win conditions in order to take a district as well as having to back at least 80 million into an attack. All of the cards are with the defenders as they can try and attack another using the clones they make, and if they fail then it doesn't matter, they generate more clones and do it again.

My point is this: it will be almost impossible to take a district from somebody who owns more than one already. It's also going to be a ridiculous gamble to try and take a district from anyone anyway. Those who got land will keep it, those who missed out will not.

Complaining about not having support for small corps is irrelevant because you should not be looking for a way to make the game easy for you, you should be getting contacts and making friends to build stronger alliances, that's the whole meaning of this.

Llan Heindell.

Also, don't expect to be able to take and hold a district with just 30 people. There will obviously be some inactivity, meaning active player count could be down as low as 20. Then, people have jobs and need to sleep, so expect attacks when your player count is down at around 5. This would result in a 5v16 or 5v24 match. Absolute slaughter.

Dust 514 needs to have some sort of "Merc 4 Hire" aspect with the Planetary Conquest portion of this game - in fact an entire Battle section devoted to it. For example, if a battle on District X is about to occur and that Corp only have 5 players online to defend, they should be able to send out invites (hire for a price) to other players to fight for them. I am not saying those hired players will give it their all, but still, it would be a nice option and addition to this game. And rather realistic too.

THAT is what the MERCENARY BATTLE SECTION should be instead of the NPC led system it currently is.

Dust 514 needs to have some sort of "Merc 4 Hire" aspect with the Planetary Conquest portion of this game.

This already exists, albeit not quite in the format you outlined. You can bring outside players into a PC battle. This has led quite a few corps offering mercenary services to corps that need help with PC (ie PFBHz). The deals aren't controlled by any sort of in game mechanic, just verbal agreement. That's not to say a corp shouldn't be able to ask for every Tom, Bob, and Harry via an ingame menu, but you're gonna get what you paid for.

Regarding the OP, I don't think that CCP has to get involved with PC due to a question of manpower and logistics. If you want to get into PC you need to be prepared for the man hours and logistics involved. Having PC delivered on a silver platter diminishes the whole experience. Struggling and working for it will make it much more satisfying in the end.

So HTFU. I mean that in the kindest way.

This already exists, albeit not quite in the format you outlined.

because we're civilised.

So I've been thinking about planetary conquest and I have some concerns:

How will small corps or new players down the road ever be able to own their own piece of New Eden?

The answer to this question is obvious but probably impossible: CCP opens up all districts on all planets at the same time. This way the smaller corps can own some land as we can afford the buy in but need the districts to earn it back. Let me put it like this:

Our current model supports big corps. The big corp buys land, earns isk through districts and instant pub matches. The only option small corps have is to earn isk through instand pub matches. This model allows for the big corps to get bigger, faster with everyone else left is the dust (514).

My proposed model would be to open all districts and allow everybody a chance to at least keep up with the big corps to some degree. That's it really. However, this is likely impossible as the load on tranquility will be too great and it feels like CCP are engineering us to fight each other. This would not be a problem but it still leaves out the little guy.

Another thing that comes to mind is that CCP will actually exacerbate this situation, perhaps only opening up one or two systems at a time over a long period of time, allowing the big corps who are already growing bigger from their current districts, to conquer these new systems instantly.

I hope some of you share these concerns.

Oh really? Explain the cutthroat tactics used in hostile takeovers. Explain bank robberies, murders, even petty thefts, if we're "civilised". Explain piracy of all kinds, from that in Somalia to that which happens in the home.

Explain business cartels, which conspire to unfairly raise prices. Explain riots. Explain North Korea's nuclear weapons, the Arab Spring, anything, really, if our world is "civilised".

Wars are very well documented over territory. World War I and II, Boer Wars, the American Revolution, American Civil War. There is nothing different about it here, apart from it's a cutthroat universe in an area of space where there are few laws and no one to enforce them.

Mercenaries, lore-wise, are being brought in to police those planets, bringing order to chaos.

Out of the lore... Why the **** are you playing a shooter if you don't intend to use force to get the things you want?

Anyway, this is not so much a case of wanting a piece of the pie. My complaint is that the big corps are just going to get exponentially bigger, meaning that when the next area(s) of space open up, they'll be in a much greater position to take that too because GÇ£they got there firstGÇ¥.