Are you kidding me?
You are not doing "sniper" right then.

Because good specialized snipers can hit for around 900 damage.
I already got hit for 1500 damage by a Thale's sniper rifle...

Llan Heindell.

You honestly think it's fair for a sniper to be able to look at an objective?

Do you hate snipers that much CCP?

1. Objectives now have "walls" around them making it harder for snipers to defend NULL Cannons.
2. None of the suits benefit snipers. On top of that, none of the racial suits have anything snipers can really use.
3. With rare exception, most objectives are behind or inside areas that snipers can't even get a clear shot on.
4. Larger maps, decreased ranges. Need I say more? (Although I know CCP has addressed ranges.)

Snipers are a dying breed in Dust. What's the point of sniping? Can't be to counter snipe, since Uprising, the number of actual snipers has decreased. Gone are the days of finding snipers in the hills. In 7 matches, I have seen 4 snipers, 3 of those were on my team.

It's bad enough that scout suits are trash for defense (shield or armor) and I could deal with that if I wasn't forced to engage assault with ARs. So I had to get into assault suits just to be able to contend a little bit, but that's not any better. Sniper's spend points in sniping only to find out it was a waste, since none of the maps are sniper friendly anymore.

I'm not an elite sniper or player by any means, but since Uprising, I have gone from an average of 10-15 kills a match to 1-5 kills a match. That's not good mechanics for snipers at all.

For those who think I'm just QQ'ing....you bet your ass I am and IDGAF if you like it or not.

1. Objectives now have "walls" around them making it harder for snipers to defend NULL Cannons.
3. With rare exception, most objectives are behind or inside areas that snipers can't even get a clear shot on.

so the other day i got sniped 4 times in a skirmish. the guy had a good spot and we didnt find him till the end of the match. we depleted all the clones. thus all the kills counted. he finished 30/0 with a charged sniper rifle. i think the problem is you.

Are these things different than they were two days ago? I can't check because I'm at work right now.

CCP has increased the dmg to SR's as it appears. How can anyone complain about SRs anymore. A charge SR single shot me for over 640 dmg. It seems like CCP like the SR. The redline has even been brought forward so snipers could get close to the action without recourse. In Chromosome build, the redline was so far back, snipers had to worry about being snuck up on. I think CCP has done good things for you.

It's not impossible to play as a sniper, by any means, but snipers are having to work a lot harder than everyone else just to stay competitive.

Cloaking Suits for Snipers, or Chameleon Suits for Snipers would not be that bad though come to think of it. Yeah, i'll help you complain in the end! WE WANT CLOAKING SUITS OR CHAMELEON SUITS THAT BLEND WITH THE BACKGROUND!!!!

1. Objectives now have "walls" around them making it harder for snipers to defend NULL Cannons solo against a coordinated squad.

2. None of the suits benefit snipers. On top of that, none of the racial suits have anything snipers can really use.

3. With rare exception, most objectives are behind or inside areas that snipers can't even get a clear shot on.

4. Larger maps, decreased ranges. Need I say more? (Although I know CCP has addressed ranges.)

Sniping is fine. It's what it should be. There's no reason to give snipers the ability to run around like the snipers of cod, cs, or battlefield.

That all being said, there is limited room for it on a team. One sniper is fine, Two is pushing it, anything more and you're doing your team a disservice.

Most map vantage points allow coverage for something like 50% of the map... really don't see your problem unless you're unable to get shots off on moving targets.

Noo Noo! I was thinking more on the note of Killzone, Snipers don't have really anything special besides their rifles though.

I certainly noticed these changes.

However, unless inside or occluded there is usually an angle that you can snipe effectively at. Just go into the object, look out both directions, and see if there is a hill or something you can use without being too close or too obvious.

As someone taking an objective I do think it is fair if you run in and don't bother taking a look around for either explosives or a sniper just waiting for you to start your hack so they can get a motion free shot that you die.

Oh, so you guys think it's ok for one sniper to cover an objective, effectively denying the hack in 90% of cases, if not more?



Ehh, so, I look around and see a sniper (which takes time and even then there's a good chance you don't notice him at all), what's the next step?
Countersnipe him? With my flaylock pistol? With my... what?
Suppressing fire? With what?
Call out the enemy sniper position, hoping a) there's a sniper on my team b) hoping he does have LOS?

No, faggothillcampers camping have it easy enough as it is.

Add MCC roof camping to all this and I say you are just whining.

Good snipers contribute in much more meaningful fashion.

Who said anything about damage? Not one of my complaints was about damage.

Oh, so you guys think it's ok for one sniper to cover an objective, effectively denying the hack in 90% of cases, if not more?



Ehh, so, I look around and see a sniper (which takes time and even then there's a good chance you don't notice him at all), what's the next step?
Countersnipe him? With my flaylock pistol? With my... what?
Suppressing fire? With what?
Call out the enemy sniper position, hoping a) there's a sniper on my team b) hoping he does have LOS?

No, faggothillcampers camping have it easy enough as it is.

Add MCC roof camping to all this and I say you are just whining.

Good snipers contribute in much more meaningful fashion.

Oh, so you guys think it's ok for one sniper to cover an objective, effectively denying the hack in 90% of cases, if not more?

1. Objectives now have "walls" around them making it harder for snipers to defend NULL Cannons.

2. None of the suits benefit snipers. On top of that, none of the racial suits have anything snipers can really use.

3. With rare exception, most objectives are behind or inside areas that snipers can't even get a clear shot on.

4. Larger maps, decreased ranges. Need I say more? (Although I know CCP has addressed ranges.)

Ahh snipers, the cowards of DUST 514.

Every time your clone dies you're supposed to be enlightened with new ideas on how not to die the same way again, So maybe your guy's clones are straight mentally disabled or something.

You honestly think that fairness applies to a CCP game? Since most objectives are "inside" and out of view of snipers to begin with, I think being able to snipe into an objective is pretty reasonable.

Let the sniper haters hate...
If the enemy hates me for being a sniper I'm doing my job.
If my team hates me for being a sniper then we're losing.
If my squad hates me for being a sniper than I need to find another job.

The role of the sniper is not to take objectives, it is infantry area denial and observation. While the sniper role may appeal to some because it seems like an easy way to get kills from a distance without being spotted, a sniper is actually a static role that is meant to cover a particular area and keep it clear of the enemy. This might be a large open area on approach to an objective, or a particular point of the battlespace that represents a threat to your own troops. Your role, as a sniper, is not to go looking for kills, but to wait patiently for them to come into that area that you have covered. It is also as a spotter, for observation, so you can report enemy movements to your team.

The goal of a sniper is to remain unseen, hence why you use sig dampers and the like, and a light suit, so you can relocate quickly if you need to. Once your position is known, you need to be prepared with a secondary position to relocate to, quickly. Range bonus mods are handy, particularly the range precision one (I think that's what it is) because it allows you to spot enemy snipers at longer ranges for you to take out if they are also sig tanking. However, if you are relocating to where the kills are, then you are giving up ground (your area of infantry denial) to the enemy just to move to one they are already in, which is what your infantry assault units are most likely already doing.

At the end of the day, the least likely anti-infantry role to get kills should be the sniper, but he should also be the least likely to die, and if he is well hidden, and well placed, then you have a valuable infantry area denial and observation tool. A 16-man team should need no more than 3-4 snipers at a time. Which is why I quit matches in which there are just too many people who want the 'glory' of being a master sniper. It's not meant to be a 'glorious' role, and while it takes a certain degree of skill to score deflection headshots on rapidly moving infantry, that's just another reason why the sniper role should be limited to only a few individuals on the team who can set up positions that cover particular strategic 'coldspots' on the map where you want to deny an enemy presence.

you havent read between the lines bro, every time your clone dies you suffer from the trauma and slowly get insane.

The role of the sniper is not to take objectives, it is infantry area denial and observation. While the sniper role may appeal to some because it seems like an easy way to get kills from a distance without being spotted, a sniper is actually a static role that is meant to cover a particular area and keep it clear of the enemy. This might be a large open area on approach to an objective, or a particular point of the battlespace that represents a threat to your own troops. Your role, as a sniper, is not to go looking for kills, but to wait patiently for them to come into that area that you have covered. It is also as a spotter, for observation, so you can report enemy movements to your team.

The goal of a sniper is to remain unseen, hence why you use sig dampers and the like, and a light suit, so you can relocate quickly if you need to. Once your position is known, you need to be prepared with a secondary position to relocate to, quickly. Range bonus mods are handy, particularly the range precision one (I think that's what it is) because it allows you to spot enemy snipers at longer ranges for you to take out if they are also sig tanking. However, if you are relocating to where the kills are, then you are giving up ground (your area of infantry denial) to the enemy just to move to one they are already in, which is what your infantry assault units are most likely already doing.

At the end of the day, the least likely anti-infantry role to get kills should be the sniper, but he should also be the least likely to die, and if he is well hidden, and well placed, then you have a valuable infantry area denial and observation tool. A 16-man team should need no more than 3-4 snipers at a time. Which is why I quit matches in which there are just too many people who want the 'glory' of being a master sniper. It's not meant to be a 'glorious' role, and while it takes a certain degree of skill to score deflection headshots on rapidly moving infantry, that's just another reason why the sniper role should be limited to only a few individuals on the team who can set up positions that cover particular strategic 'coldspots' on the map where you want to deny an enemy presence.

Brilliantly written! This is something I am going to keep in mind for future matches. I've been a COD player for so long it has numbed my mind, but this has opened my eyes. I have learned something new. You should write more tactics for snipers. Also, I think the other sniper wannabes should read this too. I agree that it's not about trying to rake in kills, but to watch the area and give support to the squad to keep enemies off their backs. +1!

I'm so glad that you know what being a Sniper is all about!
Not being one of those easily spotted idiots causing a bunch of heat to be shifted towards him.
Except after awhile you do get 3 man squads attacking you
But with our professionalism & knowledge we always outsmart, out-shoot, & outlast the enemy.