DUST Search - I went 9-1 and it cost me 1,109,944 ISK

The dark cloud wrote:

DJINN leukoplast wrote:

I say tanks get a massive OMGLOLLYPOP nerf, but make them cost as much as our suits.

You shouldn't be guaranteed near invincibility just because you paid a lot of ISK. I can run a super proto everything suit but still get taken down instantly by somebody in militia, but with proto tanks and proto mods, it takes several dedicated proto AV people to take the tank out (if they get lucky). My ISK investment is not guaranteed whatsoever with suits, but for some reason with tanks, it is. Definitely the EVE bias of vehicles no doubt.

Right now tanks are ridiculously OP... well, they always have been, but there is much less AV out there since specializing costs so much. And I seriously doubt there is that many people out there who said "I am going to sink all my millions of SP into an AV loadout, but when there is no vehicles to shoot at I will be utterly useless". Therefore tanks are running around with near impunity since very few players even have the ability to scratch their paint, let alone take them out.

I dont know which weed you are smoking but tanks havent beeing OP in chromosome and espacially not in this build. And what you expect? A tank is supposed to tank alot of damage. You must be one of those fools who think they can go and solo a tank on open field.

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BMSTUBBY KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 208	Posted - 2013.05.13 03:05:00 - [1] - Quote So hear me out. I went 9-1, I blew up 2 turret installations, took out 2 tanks, 4 LAVs, I supported my team at letters, we won the game and I got 175,456 ISK. Oh yeah that's right I was in a Tank. Tanks don't need to be buffed or nerfed the price tag needs to be dropped. Who wants my stuff before I respec?
Justin Tymes Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 99	Posted - 2013.05.13 03:07:00 - [2] - Quote You're paying for KDR, get over it.
Moon Cricket Bob Planetary Response Organization 51	Posted - 2013.05.13 03:12:00 - [3] - Quote Ever time I call in a tank I just drive it over the red line for praticality.
ladwar Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 382	Posted - 2013.05.13 03:12:00 - [4] - Quote i went 20-0 as a sniper in ambush.. i have only the free fit sniper and no weapon skills or dropsuit.
Natu Nobilis Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 241	Posted - 2013.05.13 03:18:00 - [5] - Quote BMSTUBBY wrote: So hear me out. I went 9-1, I blew up 2 turret installations, took out 2 tanks, 4 LAVs, I supported my team at letters, we won the game and I got 175,456 ISK. Oh yeah that's right I was in a Tank. Tanks don't need to be buffed or nerfed the price tag needs to be dropped. Who wants my stuff before I respec? Ypu sir need to learn a little bit of economics, because your gameplay style is not sustainable financially.
Delta 749 Maverick Security Consulting 63	Posted - 2013.05.13 03:27:00 - [6] - Quote Do what the EVE pilots do, dont use what you cant afford to lose
Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming EoN. 3129	Posted - 2013.05.13 03:28:00 - [7] - Quote Natu Nobilis wrote: BMSTUBBY wrote: So hear me out. I went 9-1, I blew up 2 turret installations, took out 2 tanks, 4 LAVs, I supported my team at letters, we won the game and I got 175,456 ISK. Oh yeah that's right I was in a Tank. Tanks don't need to be buffed or nerfed the price tag needs to be dropped. Who wants my stuff before I respec? Ypu sir need to learn a little bit of economics, because your gameplay style is not sustainable financially. not really about gameplay style tbh its that ppl in this community *** about tanks that sit on hills and dont support but when u see the few tankers that do support and they lose ONE fit they already in the red. To make money most tankers , especially if they arent in top corps with top infantry to support them will play gay as ** to survive and not lose a fit
Nguruthos IX Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 383	Posted - 2013.05.13 03:30:00 - [8] - Quote Delta 749 wrote: Do what the EVE pilots do, dont use what you cant afford to lose This sentiment is a little bit silly once you realize it's actually possible that dev's might not have balance correct all the time. To throw that around as a counter to the argument that perhaps something is in need of changing is so abundant in ignorance I think you will shine through in the rest of this threat as the biggest [Had a fun word here, but it got removed :( ] Starts with 'T'. Keep guessing I guess
VLIGHT5 Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 83	Posted - 2013.05.13 03:31:00 - [9] - Quote Sorry, but a big part of Dust is figuring out how to financially support your suits/vehicles. The problem is with Tanks and their ability to profit, not the price.
Nguruthos IX Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 383	Posted - 2013.05.13 03:32:00 - [10] - Quote VLIGHT5 wrote: Sorry, but a big part of Dust is figuring out how to financially support your suits/vehicles. The problem is with Tanks and their ability to profit, not the price. every DS pilot is now glaring at you from across the room

IamI3rian OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 44	Posted - 2013.05.13 03:32:00 - [11] - Quote It's pretty easy to recall a tank. Hell, you can even get out and call another THEN recall the one you were in. Instant shield/armor repair. = ) Course, you need two fits to make that work. Either way, we're getting better tank stuff soon according to Blam (who surprisingly still has a job).
Patoman Radiant ZionTCD Unclaimed. 102	Posted - 2013.05.13 03:35:00 - [12] - Quote go with a tank that costs half a mil, and play smarter, also helps to size up the other team.
Delta 749 Maverick Security Consulting 63	Posted - 2013.05.13 03:37:00 - [13] - Quote Nguruthos IX wrote: Delta 749 wrote: Do what the EVE pilots do, dont use what you cant afford to lose This sentiment is a little bit silly once you realize it's actually possible that dev's might not have balance correct all the time. To throw that around as a counter to the argument that perhaps something is in need of changing is so abundant in ignorance I think you will shine through in the rest of this threat as the biggest [Had a fun word here, but it got removed :( ] Starts with 'T'. Keep guessing I guess Havent I seen you use the "Herp derp they do it like this in EVE so it works fine here and the Devs have a plan" defense against others complains before? I could be mixing your username with up with someone else though
General Tiberius1 ZionTCD Unclaimed. 700	Posted - 2013.05.13 03:39:00 - [14] - Quote Justin Tymes wrote: You're paying for KDR, get over it. i can go 9/1 as a heavy, so no, he is paying because of an unbalanced PoS
Crash Monster Snipers Anonymous 239	Posted - 2013.05.13 03:47:00 - [15] - Quote Well, like it or not a tank isn't just some cheap throwaway biomass in tinfoil like a drop suit - it's going to cost extra. I don't really see a way to make it cheap enough to treat it like another suit. The only way to balance things might be to force AV weapons to require more expensive ammo... but we don't seem to have that concept.
copy left SyNergy Gaming EoN. 151	Posted - 2013.05.13 03:49:00 - [16] - Quote BMSTUBBY wrote: So hear me out. I went 9-1, I blew up 2 turret installations, took out 2 tanks, 4 LAVs, I supported my team at letters, we won the game and I got 175,456 ISK. Oh yeah that's right I was in a Tank. Tanks don't need to be buffed or nerfed the price tag needs to be dropped. Who wants my stuff before I respec? I went 9-1 it costed me 40,000 Isk Step yo game up
DJINN leukoplast Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 430	Posted - 2013.05.13 03:53:00 - [17] - Quote I say tanks get a massive OMGLOLLYPOP nerf, but make them cost as much as our suits. You shouldn't be guaranteed near invincibility just because you paid a lot of ISK. I can run a super proto everything suit but still get taken down instantly by somebody in militia, but with proto tanks and proto mods, it takes several dedicated proto AV people to take the tank out (if they get lucky). My ISK investment is not guaranteed whatsoever with suits, but for some reason with tanks, it is. Definitely the EVE bias of vehicles no doubt. Right now tanks are ridiculously OP... well, they always have been, but there is much less AV out there since specializing costs so much. And I seriously doubt there is that many people out there who said "I am going to sink all my millions of SP into an AV loadout, but when there is no vehicles to shoot at I will be utterly useless". Therefore tanks are running around with near impunity since very few players even have the ability to scratch their paint, let alone take them out.
Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 189	Posted - 2013.05.13 03:55:00 - [18] - Quote When I ask what their specialty in the game is and ppl say things like 'I am a committed tank driver or drop ship pilot', it does not make sense to me - a player must have 'day time job' as a logi or a heavy or w/e AND only after this - when their character is growing in width and not in height, they may broaden their specialization into heavy vehicles. This is because, in my opinion, neither DS, nor tanks should be sustainable/ cost effective for someone to play with them game in and game out, just like the proto equipment. Tanks should not be cost efficient. They should be used only in the games with high stakes or when the driver feels it's safe to call in a tank.
The dark cloud Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1407	Posted - 2013.05.13 03:58:00 - [19] - Quote DJINN leukoplast wrote: I say tanks get a massive OMGLOLLYPOP nerf, but make them cost as much as our suits. You shouldn't be guaranteed near invincibility just because you paid a lot of ISK. I can run a super proto everything suit but still get taken down instantly by somebody in militia, but with proto tanks and proto mods, it takes several dedicated proto AV people to take the tank out (if they get lucky). My ISK investment is not guaranteed whatsoever with suits, but for some reason with tanks, it is. Definitely the EVE bias of vehicles no doubt. Right now tanks are ridiculously OP... well, they always have been, but there is much less AV out there since specializing costs so much. And I seriously doubt there is that many people out there who said "I am going to sink all my millions of SP into an AV loadout, but when there is no vehicles to shoot at I will be utterly useless". Therefore tanks are running around with near impunity since very few players even have the ability to scratch their paint, let alone take them out. I dont know which weed you are smoking but tanks havent beeing OP in chromosome and espacially not in this build. And what you expect? A tank is supposed to tank alot of damage. You must be one of those fools who think they can go and solo a tank on open field.
Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 190	Posted - 2013.05.13 04:04:00 - [20] - Quote The dark cloud wrote: DJINN leukoplast wrote: I say tanks get a massive OMGLOLLYPOP nerf, but make them cost as much as our suits. You shouldn't be guaranteed near invincibility just because you paid a lot of ISK. I can run a super proto everything suit but still get taken down instantly by somebody in militia, but with proto tanks and proto mods, it takes several dedicated proto AV people to take the tank out (if they get lucky). My ISK investment is not guaranteed whatsoever with suits, but for some reason with tanks, it is. Definitely the EVE bias of vehicles no doubt. Right now tanks are ridiculously OP... well, they always have been, but there is much less AV out there since specializing costs so much. And I seriously doubt there is that many people out there who said "I am going to sink all my millions of SP into an AV loadout, but when there is no vehicles to shoot at I will be utterly useless". Therefore tanks are running around with near impunity since very few players even have the ability to scratch their paint, let alone take them out. I dont know which weed you are smoking but tanks havent beeing OP in chromosome and espacially not in this build. And what you expect? A tank is supposed to tank alot of damage. You must be one of those fools who think they can go and solo a tank on open field. Lol it's because of your logic in Chromosome STB and Imps had no qualms about calling in 3 tanks into ambush pubs on Mannus Peak (the small map iirc the name) without a shade of remorse. What you are saying is that becausee you got a stash of ISK that you are willing to spend on a tank it's ok for you to call in a tank in 16 vs 16 game and have a full squad of dedicated AV red dots dealing with you only sitting safely in your tank. You gotta choose: either tanks are poweful but super expensive so that they are not ISK- efficient OR they are affordable but are easy to destroy. You cant have both - you cant pay 1 mil isk and buy your way to roll 10 straight games of 15/0 not losing your tank.

Soozu 5o1st 104	Posted - 2013.05.13 04:11:00 - [21] - Quote Bad post is bad. You should have survived. Tanks don't need to be fixed just cost less? Tank spamming anyone? I killed 12 tanks today and lost 3... total earnings. 1.5 million There are 12 tankers out there who can verify this. Edit: for the record before someone assumes I was redline railgun sniping.... God no! A couple of those tanks I actually drove INTO the redline and destroyed.... cause ** you *******. Tanks are broken and need to be fixed, not cost less.
LittleCuteBunny Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 13	Posted - 2013.05.13 04:23:00 - [22] - Quote You should just "re-call" the tank if it is near destruction
Jotun Hiem The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION 667	Posted - 2013.05.13 04:24:00 - [23] - Quote DJINN leukoplast wrote: I say tanks get a massive OMGLOLLYPOP nerf, but make them cost as much as our suits. You shouldn't be guaranteed near invincibility just because you paid a lot of ISK. I can run a super proto everything suit but still get taken down instantly by somebody in militia, but with proto tanks and proto mods, it takes several dedicated proto AV people to take the tank out (if they get lucky). My ISK investment is not guaranteed whatsoever with suits, but for some reason with tanks, it is. Definitely the EVE bias of vehicles no doubt. Right now tanks are ridiculously OP... well, they always have been, but there is much less AV out there since specializing costs so much. And I seriously doubt there is that many people out there who said "I am going to sink all my millions of SP into an AV loadout, but when there is no vehicles to shoot at I will be utterly useless". Therefore tanks are running around with near impunity since very few players even have the ability to scratch their paint, let alone take them out. Tanks haven't been overpowered since missile turrets got the snot beaten out of them. The hell are you smoking?
Soozu 5o1st 104	Posted - 2013.05.13 04:25:00 - [24] - Quote LittleCuteBunny wrote: You should just "re-call" the tank if it is near destruction How cute to think you can hop out and recall a flaming tank.
Cody Sietz The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION 112	Posted - 2013.05.13 04:40:00 - [25] - Quote I went 11-3 today. Got 230,000 isk. Total profit=200,000.
Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 793	Posted - 2013.05.13 04:45:00 - [26] - Quote BMSTUBBY wrote: So hear me out. I went 9-1, I blew up 2 turret installations, took out 2 tanks, 4 LAVs, I supported my team at letters, we won the game and I got 175,456 ISK. Oh yeah that's right I was in a Tank. Tanks don't need to be buffed or nerfed the price tag needs to be dropped. Who wants my stuff before I respec? That's because outside of forge snipers nobody has enough SP to spec into AV anymore. Give it another month and try that again.
CharCharOdell Ametat Security Amarr Empire 29	Posted - 2013.05.13 04:49:00 - [27] - Quote Natu Nobilis wrote: BMSTUBBY wrote: So hear me out. I went 9-1, I blew up 2 turret installations, took out 2 tanks, 4 LAVs, I supported my team at letters, we won the game and I got 175,456 ISK. Oh yeah that's right I was in a Tank. Tanks don't need to be buffed or nerfed the price tag needs to be dropped. Who wants my stuff before I respec? Ypu sir need to learn a little bit of economics, because your gameplay style is not sustainable financially. It was in Chromosome but apparently we weren't UP enough then. In Chromosome, less than 20 tankers were making a living off of pure tanks by the end of it.
Natu Nobilis Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 242	Posted - 2013.05.13 04:49:00 - [28] - Quote Mavado V Noriega wrote: not really about gameplay style tbh its that ppl in this community *** about tanks that sit on hills and dont support but when u see the few tankers that do support and they lose ONE fit they already in the red. To make money most tankers , especially if they arent in top corps with top infantry to support them will play gay as ** to survive and not lose a fit If one is playing with expensive toys all by him(her)self, one will take the check alone. Vehicles are to be used with support, otherwise, they die easy. Don-¦t use what can[t be afforded to loose.
CharCharOdell Ametat Security Amarr Empire 29	Posted - 2013.05.13 04:50:00 - [29] - Quote DJINN leukoplast wrote: I say tanks get a massive OMGLOLLYPOP nerf, but make them cost as much as our suits. You shouldn't be guaranteed near invincibility just because you paid a lot of ISK. I can run a super proto everything suit but still get taken down instantly by somebody in militia, but with proto tanks and proto mods, it takes several dedicated proto AV people to take the tank out (if they get lucky). My ISK investment is not guaranteed whatsoever with suits, but for some reason with tanks, it is. Definitely the EVE bias of vehicles no doubt. Right now tanks are ridiculously OP... well, they always have been, but there is much less AV out there since specializing costs so much. And I seriously doubt there is that many people out there who said "I am going to sink all my millions of SP into an AV loadout, but when there is no vehicles to shoot at I will be utterly useless". Therefore tanks are running around with near impunity since very few players even have the ability to scratch their paint, let alone take them out. Lol. DJINN thinks tanks are OP. Probably never heard of AV nades. Silly DJINN.
Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 794	Posted - 2013.05.13 05:14:00 - [30] - Quote DJINN leukoplast wrote: I say tanks get a massive OMGLOLLYPOP nerf, but make them cost as much as our suits. You shouldn't be guaranteed near invincibility just because you paid a lot of ISK. I can run a super proto everything suit but still get taken down instantly by somebody in militia, but with proto tanks and proto mods, it takes several dedicated proto AV people to take the tank out (if they get lucky). My ISK investment is not guaranteed whatsoever with suits, but for some reason with tanks, it is. Definitely the EVE bias of vehicles no doubt. Right now tanks are ridiculously OP... well, they always have been, but there is much less AV out there since specializing costs so much. And I seriously doubt there is that many people out there who said "I am going to sink all my millions of SP into an AV loadout, but when there is no vehicles to shoot at I will be utterly useless". Therefore tanks are running around with near impunity since very few players even have the ability to scratch their paint, let alone take them out. If we had your way, squad tactics would be nerfed too. You ever going to finish that imbalance of ambush series you were writing? I think you still have some more credibility left to kill.



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