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Shane Darko
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.05.12 08:58:00 -
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Quote: Villore GÇô The man who opened fire at a Minmatar cultural festival, killing 59 and wounding 303 others, has been identified as Gerne Broteau and was brought before the Caille District Court today, where he was charged with 59 counts of first degree murder, 362 counts of assault with a deadly weapon, and 12 counts of mayhem with the intent to incite terror, along with numerous other charges.
Broteau has been identified as a man of Gallente ethnicity in good health. He does not have a criminal record prior to his rampage that claimed the life of Sebiestor Tribal Chief Karin Midular. He is being characterized as a loner who worked without accomplice, apparently motivated by a nationalistic, anti-foreigner stance.
He remained under police guard for over a month as a full investigation was launched into his motives and the possibility he was part of a criminal terror cell. However, after repeated attempts at interrogation, no evidence was uncovered that Broteau was working with any other group.
Appearing in restraints in a prison jumpsuit, Broteau stood silent and impassive as the numerous charges against him were read without fanfare. The presiding judge had to request silence twice before the gallery quieted enough to finish reading the charges.
GalNet searches have revealed the Broteau frequented numerous anti-foreigner forums and frequently posted about his hatred of Minmatar immigrants, desire to remove all non-Gallente elements from the Federation, and admiration for the Black Eagles and Director Mentas Blaque. Before becoming the director of the Black Eagles, Mentas Blaque was known as an outspoken leader of the Sociocrats party, which has long espoused isolation and strict immigration controls for the Federation.
The Black Eagles have issued a statement in response to the findings, denouncing Broteau and saying, GÇ£The man does not, never has, and never will have any involvement with the Special Department of Internal Investigations and Federal Security.GÇ¥
Broteau's trial is scheduled to begin on Monday.
Wonder if there will be more heated conflict between gal and mints. |
Smooth Head
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
37
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Posted - 2013.05.12 09:00:00 -
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Straight from the "Get out of Mum's basement" files.
Really this is the kind of stuff that makes regular people shake their heads with amusement. |
Zyrus Amalomyn
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
125
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Posted - 2013.05.12 09:17:00 -
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Smooth Head wrote:Straight from the "Get out of Mum's basement" files.
Really this is the kind of stuff that makes regular people shake their heads with amusement.
Regular people are ignorant assholes who keep up the grand old 'this is fun to others, but since it isn't fun to me, it's stupid'"
Don't like it? Don't read it, and get back to your COD rehashes. Eve has actual lore and a story to it.
On a side note, He's gonna be assassinated by Minmatar, calling it now. |
Smooth Head
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
38
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Posted - 2013.05.12 09:26:00 -
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Zyrus Amalomyn wrote:Regular people are ignorant assholes who keep up the grand old 'this is fun to others, but since it isn't fun to me, it's stupid'"
Don't like it? Don't read it. Eve has actual lore and a story to it. I'm sure COD with with it's yearly rehashes is awesome for some. Maybe you should have a few little role play tears?
Go live your life in you little cosplay gear and see how much credibility you keep - oh wait, you didn't have any in the first place.
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Chojine Dentetsu
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
24
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Posted - 2013.05.12 11:02:00 -
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Smooth Head wrote:Zyrus Amalomyn wrote:Regular people are ignorant assholes who keep up the grand old 'this is fun to others, but since it isn't fun to me, it's stupid'"
Don't like it? Don't read it. Eve has actual lore and a story to it. I'm sure COD with with it's yearly rehashes is awesome for some. Maybe you should have a few little role play tears? Go live your life in you little cosplay gear and see how much credibility you keep - oh wait, you didn't have any in the first place.
Just because someone likes to RP, it doesn't ruin their credibility.
I love to play Warhammer 40k, I love the lore of many things.
I class myself as a geek, but my job entails travelling the world, getting drunk, getting tans in various amazing places, and getting paid extremely well for it.
My personal credibility is quite high, and I lurv to RP.
Geeks run the world, man, everyone else just works for geeks. |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
741
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Posted - 2013.05.12 11:05:00 -
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Smooth Head wrote:Straight from the "Get out of Mum's basement" files.
Really this is the kind of stuff that makes regular people shake their heads with amusement. Remember that badass map we got a while back with the crashed ship? Stuff like this leads up to cool **** like that.
Also, next expansion is going to be about Minmatar vs Amarr, where we get more Minmatar and Amarr weapons and vehicles. Calling it now. |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
406
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Posted - 2013.05.12 11:12:00 -
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Smooth Head wrote:Zyrus Amalomyn wrote:Regular people are ignorant assholes who keep up the grand old 'this is fun to others, but since it isn't fun to me, it's stupid'"
Don't like it? Don't read it. Eve has actual lore and a story to it. I'm sure COD with with it's yearly rehashes is awesome for some. Maybe you should have a few little role play tears? Go live your life in you little cosplay gear and see how much credibility you keep - oh wait, you didn't have any in the first place.
Poor kid.
I can tell you were never read anything as a small child. You can always tell the ones who lack creativity or imagination. |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
741
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Posted - 2013.05.12 11:21:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Smooth Head wrote:Zyrus Amalomyn wrote:Regular people are ignorant assholes who keep up the grand old 'this is fun to others, but since it isn't fun to me, it's stupid'"
Don't like it? Don't read it. Eve has actual lore and a story to it. I'm sure COD with with it's yearly rehashes is awesome for some. Maybe you should have a few little role play tears? Go live your life in you little cosplay gear and see how much credibility you keep - oh wait, you didn't have any in the first place. Poor kid. I can tell you were never read anything as a small child. You can always tell the ones who lack creativity or imagination. Yeah, he probably QQed when his Gallente Plasma Rifle went back to its original range and argued that it shoots bullets lol |
Natu Nobilis
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
235
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Posted - 2013.05.12 11:35:00 -
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Smooth Head wrote:Straight from the "Get out of Mum's basement" files.
Really this is the kind of stuff that makes regular people shake their heads with amusement.
Tottaly agree dudebro! How can people do this kind of thing?
Now, let-¦s take our time to write on a virtual forum, about our virtual game of Immortal high-tech transhuman futuristic soldiers that shoots plasma, magneticly accelerated rounds on other immortal high-tech transhuman futuristic soldiers, of how much of a NERDS they are !
Yeah, get out of the basement you nerds!
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Chojine Dentetsu
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
24
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Posted - 2013.05.12 11:41:00 -
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Natu Nobilis wrote:Smooth Head wrote:Straight from the "Get out of Mum's basement" files.
Really this is the kind of stuff that makes regular people shake their heads with amusement. Tottaly agree dudebro! How can people do this kind of thing? Now, let-¦s take our time to write on a virtual forum, about our virtual game of Immortal high-tech transhuman futuristic soldiers that shoots plasma, magneticly accelerated rounds on other immortal high-tech transhuman futuristic soldiers, of how much of a NERDS they are ! Yeah, get out of the basement you nerds!
I love irony. |
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Natu Nobilis
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
235
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Posted - 2013.05.12 11:45:00 -
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Shane Darko wrote: Wonder if there will be more heated conflict between gal and mints.
Our Ray of Matat lies dead, shoot due to bigotry and ignorance fed by a group of Galente CURRENTLY IN POWER with a mentality that immigrants are less deserving just because they-¦re from outside?
And this individual, that i have no idea if it -¦s the right one, after inumerous requests for extradition, that are backed by minmatar LAW, will be broadcasted and made a star by Gallente Media, gloryfing the person to get audience, while we still mourn for our Ray, having recieved NO CONSOLATION from our "allies", and yet, from our supposed "enemy" Tibus Heth, we get offers of medical treatment and condolences.
Immigrants are being molested on the strreets and at their homes by ignorant civilians, and ignorant authorities, working in the name of the federation.
Those are not attributes of a place where i would feel safe, or respected.
The Gallente are rotting from the inside, and the smell is coming out. I do hope they treat this cancer and become once again a place of diversity and prosperity, and not this interventionist hypocritical imperialist ignorant place of hatred against all that disagree with them. |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
743
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Posted - 2013.05.12 11:45:00 -
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Natu Nobilis wrote:Smooth Head wrote:Straight from the "Get out of Mum's basement" files.
Really this is the kind of stuff that makes regular people shake their heads with amusement. Tottaly agree dudebro! How can people do this kind of thing? Now, let-¦s take our time to write on a virtual forum, about our virtual game of Immortal high-tech transhuman futuristic soldiers that shoots plasma, magneticly accelerated rounds on other immortal high-tech transhuman futuristic soldiers, of how much of a NERDS they are ! Yeah, get out of the basement you nerds! Plays game in EVE universe, complains about EVE lore?
Logic much? |
ReGnUM Public Relations
Imperfects Public Relations
212
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Posted - 2013.05.12 12:07:00 -
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Imperfects and her Holy Allies give their deepest condolences to those who were affected by this catastrophic event. However, when you let such diseased ridden vermin into your States. These kinda things tend to happen. Furthermore, we feel that the confounds Gallente society played a major role in this terrible tragedy. Gerne Broteau is in no way innocent, but he is still a victim of a broken system. Thank you for your time.
Respectfully, Imperfects PR Office. |
Jakar Umbra
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
78
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Posted - 2013.05.12 12:27:00 -
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I am a strong Minmatar supporter and truly am saddened by the death of the Ray of Matar; of course by no means as much as our Minmatar allies, however I implore the Minmatar to calm themselves as this man will never see the light of day again. Acting too brashly on this matter will simply give those who share the sentiments of this man more reasons to harm your brothers and unfortunately probably even rally more to their xenophobic and bloodthirsty cause.
It is however unfortunate that there is no amount of punishment suitable for what this man has done. He is clearly already jaded and resigned to the fate that awaits him, convinced that what he did was, in his twisted way of thinking, the right thing to do.
Should anything come of this I will not fight against the Federation as a whole, but I will fight against those who share the sentiments of this man. |
Denak Kalamari
BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire
148
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Posted - 2013.05.12 12:59:00 -
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I am glad that the Midular assassin's identity was finally revealed and this situation is reaching a conclusion. I hope that he gets put into a fair trial and gets punished accordingly. Although to note on the reason why his identity was hidden, it was probably for the reason to make sure that any of his possible co-conspirators would not suddenly disappear. It is not a good reason, but it is a reason in the first place.
Natu Nobilis wrote: Our Ray of Matat lies dead, shot due to bigotry and ignorance fed by a group of Gallente CURRENTLY IN POWER with a mentality that immigrants are less deserving just because they-¦re from outside?
And this individual, that i have no idea if it -¦s the right one, after inumerous requests for extradition, that are backed by minmatar LAW, will be broadcasted and made a star by Gallente Media, gloryfing the person to get audience, while we still mourn for our Ray, having recieved NO CONSOLATION from our "allies", and yet, from our supposed "enemy" Tibus Heth, we get offers of medical treatment and condolences.
Immigrants are being molested on the strreets and at their homes by ignorant civilians, and ignorant authorities, working in the name of the federation.
Those are not attributes of a place where i would feel safe, or respected.
The Gallente are rotting from the inside, and the smell is coming out. I do hope they treat this cancer and become once again a place of diversity and prosperity, and not this interventionist hypocritical imperialist ignorant place of hatred against all that disagree with them.
First of all, the crime happened in Gallente territory, thus it goes under Gallente jurisdiction. The Matari law is irrelevant, because it did not happen in Matari territory. Secondly, the acts of one man or one group do not reflect the entire Federation, so concluding that the Gallente government is rotten from the inside is a very broad generalization and very ignorant. Thirdly, the attacks on Matari citizens happened after the Minmatar navy made an unprovoked attack into Federation territory, killing thousands of Navymen both Minmatar and Gallente. I am not saying that they are correct when they are assaulting Minmatar citizens, you started the whole thing.
Thirdly, I do not like the idea that they completely disregarded Minmatar law and requests to have the assassin turned over to them, and find the reason keeping the assassin's identity a secret flimsy at best, it still does not warrant this kind of behavior from you, and because of pointless arguments like these our alliance is going to break, which will be bad for both sides.
So what do you want to do? Continue downplaying the Federation and only blame us for all the bad things on this whole farse, or accept that both sides are at fault and focus on rebuilding our relationship?
((Note, it's probably the best if you just ignore Smooth Head, he's a blatant troll)) |
Natu Nobilis
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
238
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Posted - 2013.05.12 18:28:00 -
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Denak Kalamari wrote: First of all, the crime happened in Gallente territory, thus it goes under Gallente jurisdiction. The Matari law is irrelevant, because it did not happen in Matari territory. Secondly, the acts of one man or one group do not reflect the entire Federation, so concluding that the Gallente government is rotten from the inside is a very broad generalization and very ignorant. Thirdly, the attacks on Matari citizens happened after the Minmatar navy made an unprovoked attack into Federation territory, killing thousands of Navymen both Minmatar and Gallente. I am not saying that they are correct when they are assaulting Minmatar citizens, you started the whole thing.
Thirdly, I do not like the idea that they completely disregarded Minmatar law and requests to have the assassin turned over to them, and find the reason keeping the assassin's identity a secret flimsy at best, it still does not warrant this kind of behavior from you, and because of pointless arguments like these our alliance is going to break, which will be bad for both sides.
So what do you want to do? Continue downplaying the Federation and only blame us for all the bad things on this whole farse, or accept that both sides are at fault and focus on rebuilding our relationship?
((Note, it's probably the best if you just ignore Smooth Head, he's a blatant troll))
1 - "All crimes perpetrated against members of a Minmatar tribe fall under the jurisdiction of tribal law and thus should be prosecuted by tribal courts." It happened against a Minmatar member, it falls under Minmatar juristicion. To call the Matari law "irrelevant" and our justice system "biased", it only reinforces your ignorance of Tribal ways, not to say a blatant disrespect.
2 - In case you don-¦t watch the news, several immigrants were already beign mistreated, and it only increase recently. It-¦s not "one" man, it-¦s your bigot population, your armed and judicial authorities. Your government is doing this, and the only words of care that we had so far came from Tibus Heth, not from your authorities.
3 - Now the fault is OURS? Do you forget that the agressive feeling coming from Gallente population came way before the military standoff? That we are treated as outsiders, inferiors and something to get rid of?
Insult, after insult, after insult, and yet, you try to portrait yourself as a righteous shinny white knight in armour.
I don-¦t know if the arrogance is so deep in your veins that you can-¦t see what you are doing, or if this is a deliberate attack on my people. Either way, i think the MInmatar are in perfect conditions to live our lives without your interference and prejudice. |
Logi Bro
Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN.
1469
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Posted - 2013.05.12 18:33:00 -
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Smooth Head wrote:Straight from the "Get out of Mum's basement" files.
Really this is the kind of stuff that makes regular people shake their heads with amusement.
Says the guy that sits at his computer with the sole intent of trolling people online? No, you're right, you are totally "normal" compared to role-players. |
Natu Nobilis
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
238
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Posted - 2013.05.12 18:36:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:Smooth Head wrote:Straight from the "Get out of Mum's basement" files.
Really this is the kind of stuff that makes regular people shake their heads with amusement. Says the guy that sits at his computer with the sole intent of trolling people online? No, you're right, you are totally "normal" compared to role-players.
Just ignore him, it-¦s a guy that plays immortal soldeirs online maing fun of people playing immortal soldiers online with complementary text.
He feels special everytime someone gives him atention. May be the only one he gets. |
Etero Narciss
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
128
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Posted - 2013.05.12 18:40:00 -
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At least he ain't one of us, right? |
Delirium Inferno
Edoras Corporation
221
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Posted - 2013.05.12 18:44:00 -
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I honestly don't see how people who like to follow this sort of stuff are any different from those who like to follow all the events and drama in their favorite TV shows.
I haven't been following any of these stories and completely ignored the whole Caldari Prime build up and battle, but it sounds like it could be fun. Right now I'm a bit confused because I thought Gallente and Minmatar were allies, but after reading this I'd have to side with Minmatar. Of course this article only really presents one side of the story. |
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DigiOps
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
217
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Posted - 2013.05.12 18:50:00 -
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You know what I don't understand? Following sports and the people who refer to the team they like as "we". I like to play sports. I just don't understand following sports. |
Delirium Inferno
Edoras Corporation
231
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Posted - 2013.05.13 01:03:00 -
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DigiOps wrote:You know what I don't understand? Following sports and the people who refer to the team they like as "we". I like to play sports. I just don't understand following sports. It's just an easy way to get a sense of accomplishment with little to no effort (being a fan is a bit of an effort). It's healthy for the human spirit so I support it. Plus it gives us a well needed break from life where nothing really matters for 3 hours.
You are correct though if the point you're trying to make is why is that viewed as acceptable when following a videogame is seen as childish. Or really videogames in general viewed as childish. |
Natu Nobilis
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
240
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Posted - 2013.05.13 02:32:00 -
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Delirium Inferno wrote:DigiOps wrote:You know what I don't understand? Following sports and the people who refer to the team they like as "we". I like to play sports. I just don't understand following sports. It's just an easy way to get a sense of accomplishment with little to no effort (being a fan is a bit of an effort). It's healthy for the human spirit so I support it. Plus it gives us a well needed break from life where nothing really matters for 3 hours. You are correct though if the point you're trying to make is why is that viewed as acceptable when following a videogame is seen as childish. Or really videogames in general viewed as childish.
There are types of interaction where you are passive (like watching sports, TV, listening to radio, reading a newspaper), and tere are interactions where ou-¦re active (editing wikipedia, playing sports, playing a videogame with a persistent universe)
When dealing with a persistent universe, and where actions matters and actually impacts the universe around us, the use of "We" is indeed valid, since everyone can push the story into one direction instead of the other.
There were several live events that shaped the story of New Eden with the help of players. There were storylines created because a player requested certain documents to NPC authorities, and with that action, several events unfolded.
Roleplaying in New Eden is not a passive activity, is an active one.
Of course not all activity is going to be used on the storyline, but even writing in forums SHAPE the game as we know it.
Some people just want to play a few matches, shoot some people and be done with it. It-¦s ok, they can do this and no one should complain about it.
But there are those that look at the bigger picture, know that they can gather enough people to shoot at their enemies face, give them some money to do it, conquer a territory, generate more money than was spent, and fuel their combat effort against another alliance to dominat a region with the help of the sapceships in EVE.
If one want to play this game as a glorified singleplayer online, they can shoot some people up and be done with it. But the mere act of shooting people up, means that someone somewhere is getting an advantage with this, be it by having their enemies obliterated, or simply by having their wallets fattened by the selling of equipment to be used in battle (still waiting for the secondary market).
Some people use the sword, some people use the pen, but all that play in this universe are actors, and not mere spectators.
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Rupture Reaperson
Deadly Blue Dots RISE of LEGION
123
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Posted - 2013.05.13 02:44:00 -
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Delirium Inferno wrote:I honestly don't see how people who like to follow this sort of stuff are any different from those who like to follow all the events and drama in their favorite TV shows. Ditto, I read the OP and then... meh. Quoting Yathzee, "They are the kind of nerd that looks to nerds in the same way that regular people looks to nerds."... or something like that. Not implying anything... but that line comes to mind every time I read OPs like this... Personally Im a D&D kinda guy, just going to some friends house, drink have fun and mess around. Not over the internets, takes away the fun and randomness of good ole RP. |
Chaffe97
R.I.f.t Orion Empire
7
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Posted - 2013.05.13 03:02:00 -
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Pretty much mentioned before, I don't understand why reading a fictional book is O.K., but reading a fictional story as part of the lore of a game is not. So many people look at others who play games as losers, but I believe video games as art and social platforms are going to become the standards. I'd rather socialize with people on Dust than on Facebook because I feel as though the activity and teamwork does more to create bonds and encourage human connections (although definitely not as much as being together in real life) |
Denak Kalamari
BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire
150
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Posted - 2013.05.13 12:05:00 -
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And completely disregard the 300 hundred other people he killed or wounded? You can't completely disregard the Gallente law just as much we can't disregard Matari law, that was my point. I may have worded it a bit wrong, I admit, but in the end we can't solely act on one nation's law in this case. And I did not claim that you were biased, everyone is biased more or less, and the fact that you are willing to attack Federation territory, killing your own people in the process(not all the navymen were Gallente) just so you can gain a single man from them brings up a few alarm signs.
Natu Nobilis wrote:2 - In case you don-¦t watch the news, several immigrants were already beign mistreated, and it only increase recently. It-¦s not "one" man, it-¦s your bigot population, your armed and judicial authorities. Your government is doing this, and the only words of care that we had so far came from Tibus Heth, not from your authorities. These conspiracy theories again? Yet again, you are generalizing every single Gallente citizen and the government itself to a racist bigot, which in itself is being racist. And as far as I see, the only "proof" that the government are discriminating Matari immigrants is a few eyewitness accounts saying they were searched. Hardly a racist act in my opinion.
Natu Nobilis wrote:3 - Now the fault is OURS? Do you forget that the agressive feeling coming from Gallente population came way before the military standoff? That we are treated as outsiders, inferiors and something to get rid of? Insult, after insult, after insult, and yet, you try to portrait yourself as a righteous shinny white knight in armour. I don-¦t know if the arrogance is so deep in your veins that you can-¦t see what you are doing, or if this is a deliberate attack on my people. Either way, i think the MInmatar are in perfect conditions to live our lives without your interference and prejudice. Did you even read my post? I wasn't blaming the Minmatar nor glorifying the Federation, I was saying that both the Republic and the Federation could have done better in the handling of this entire farse. If you stopped downplaying the Federation into a bunch of xenophobic racists you are going to find yourself quite lonely real fast. I am not saying this to threaten you, I am saying this to warn you, broad generalizations and exchange of insults help no one and if we even want this alliance to last, we need to stop it.
And if you really demand proof that not every single Gallente is an idiot, look here. |
Natu Nobilis
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
245
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Posted - 2013.05.13 12:35:00 -
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1 - There is a conflict of juristictions, for we have different laws. And i-¦m not saying you said it was biased, i-¦m reporting that your SUPREME COURT said it. The highest judicial instance of your federation could have used a little diplomacy, but they didn-¦t. That is a very good reason to set some people off and for harsher measures to be taken.
2 - Part of your population and part of the authorities. Do you even check the references from the news? They are reporting it, i-¦m not taking things out of my head. There is population and police violence / profiling going on, there is a supposed shooter with a mindset that is shared with the current leader of the Black Eagles. If you can-¦t see this, i don-¦t know what to say.
3 - Of course the situation could be different. But first there is prejudice against immigrants from part of your poulation, second there is government officials preching this intolerance, then there-¦s a supposed individual that shared this tought and put it into action, kiling not only MInmatar civilians, but our Ray of Matar, then there-¦s your highest judicial instance calling our court system biased.
If your population isn-¦t doing something about the stupidity of your government, of your judicial system, of your diplomatic relations, then the population is omiting themselves from what is going on, and agreeing with what is going on, Of course it-¦s not everyone that thinks like that, but they are not doing anything about it.
And if you think that the Minmatar are going to take these insults lightly and passively, you gravely mistaken. We have not freed ourselves from one whip to be hit by a softer, but equaly damaging one.
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SGT MUZZA
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
18
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Posted - 2013.05.13 12:51:00 -
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Noob, question where can I go to keep up to date better with the happenings of these stories? |
Natu Nobilis
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
245
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Posted - 2013.05.13 12:58:00 -
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SGT MUZZA wrote:Noob, question where can I go to keep up to date better with the happenings of these stories?
Check this topic, and if you want to RP, check the topics that start with [NEWS] until we have a proper forum section for it.
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SGT MUZZA
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
18
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Posted - 2013.05.13 13:00:00 -
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Natu Nobilis wrote:SGT MUZZA wrote:Noob, question where can I go to keep up to date better with the happenings of these stories? Check this topic, and if you want to RP, check the topics that start with [NEWS] until we have a proper forum section for it.
Thank you :)
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Cody Sietz
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
112
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Posted - 2013.05.13 14:09:00 -
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I hope he rots in hell. |
Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders Red Rock Consortium
591
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Posted - 2013.05.13 14:19:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:I hope he rots in hell.
Hell is a Black Eagle interrogation center. With modern medicine it's amazing how long you can keep someone alive only to tear them apart again. If the Matari get a hold of him his end will be brutal but short.
I have a roll of duct tape, a nanite injector and a nova knife. I volunteer to do a little experimentation on the bastard for the seven tribes to see how long I can keep him alive. |
Natu Nobilis
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
245
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Posted - 2013.05.13 14:49:00 -
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Reav Hannari wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:I hope he rots in hell. Hell is a Black Eagle interrogation center. With modern medicine it's amazing how long you can keep someone alive only to tear them apart again. If the Matari get a hold of him his end will be brutal but short. I have a roll of duct tape, a nanite injector and a nova knife. I volunteer to do a little experimentation on the bastard for the seven tribes to see how long I can keep him alive.
Actually, is a little more than that =) |
Smoky The Bear
Intergalactic Cannibus Cartel
50
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Posted - 2013.05.13 15:06:00 -
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But unexpectedly the Gallente have new info about the Minmatarr plans.. (thanks to this post).. and have launched a new offensive .. Reports coming in now.. 3000 dead .. It looks like another slaughter..
It looks like the numbers were low.. reports still coming in.. One man brags he had over 100 kills but they wouldnt count the 20 kills he got off that well timed grenade into a schoolhouse.. O well keep up the good work.. Gallente will never rest as long as 1 schoolchild feels safe in this universe! whoohooo..
Wow the war is spreading quickly.. latest reports.. Minamatarr wiped out.. The class is gone.. So sad .. so shocking. o well.. moving on...
Gallente TV tonight:: Donkey Show
Sorry Minmatarr.. Lore has spoken.. |
Natu Nobilis
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.05.13 15:22:00 -
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Smoky The Bear wrote:But unexpectedly the Gallente have new info about the Minmatarr plans.. (thanks to this post).. and have launched a new offensive .. Reports coming in now.. 3000 dead .. It looks like another slaughter..
It looks like the numbers were low.. reports still coming in.. One man brags he had over 100 kills but they wouldnt count the 20 kills he got off that well timed grenade into a schoolhouse.. O well keep up the good work.. Gallente will never rest as long as 1 schoolchild feels safe in this universe! whoohooo..
Wow the war is spreading quickly.. latest reports.. Minamatarr wiped out.. The class is gone.. So sad .. so shocking. o well.. moving on...
Gallente TV tonight:: Donkey Show
Sorry Minmatarr.. Lore has spoken..
Are you one of the defective clones ? |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
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Posted - 2013.05.13 15:25:00 -
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First off, moment of silence for our lost Ray.
**Moment of Silence**
Well, now, who is up for burning down the houses of a few hundred thousand decadent, lazy hypocrites? This outcome can be avoided by handing him over for proper Tribal justice to be doled out.
Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives |
Denak Kalamari
BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.13 16:26:00 -
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Natu Nobilis wrote: 1 - There is a conflict of juristictions, for we have different laws. And i-¦m not saying you said it was biased, i-¦m reporting that your SUPREME COURT said it. The highest judicial instance of your federation could have used a little diplomacy, but they didn-¦t. That is a very good reason to set some people off and for harsher measures to be taken.
2 - Part of your population and part of the authorities. Do you even check the references from the news? They are reporting it, i-¦m not taking things out of my head. There is population and police violence / profiling going on, there is a supposed shooter with a mindset that is shared with the current leader of the Black Eagles. If you can-¦t see this, i don-¦t know what to say.
3 - Of course the situation could be different. But first there is prejudice against immigrants from part of your poulation, second there is government officials preching this intolerance, then there-¦s a supposed individual that shared this tought and put it into action, kiling not only MInmatar civilians, but our Ray of Matar, then there-¦s your highest judicial instance calling our court system biased.
If your population isn-¦t doing something about the stupidity of your government, of your judicial system, of your diplomatic relations, then the population is omiting themselves from what is going on, and agreeing with what is going on, Of course it-¦s not everyone that thinks like that, but they are not doing anything about it.
And if you think that the Minmatar are going to take these insults lightly and passively, you gravely mistaken. We have not freed ourselves from one whip to be hit by a softer, but equaly damaging one.
1. True, but does that warrant an attack on Gallente territory just so you can take the criminal in question for your trials? Since I recide the Intergalactic Summit often, let me quote you this:
Brandi Wiseman wrote:Elsebeth Rhiannon wrote:Don't you find it ironic that you, who call for not calling a person guilty before trial, cannot differentiate between going to war in order to bring someone to court, and a lynch mob?`
Not that either is necessary right. But surely they are different wrongs?
I can't differentiate between it, no. The Gallente Federation were already investigating the incident, had a suspect and were initiating trial proceedings to bring that individual to court. There was absolutely no reason for the Minmatar to attempt to escalate matters by bringing a fleet into Gallente space in order to take the prisoner into their custody. Hence why I refer to the actions of a lynch mob.
2. What I'm reading here and throughout the archives is violence against Matari immigrants by Gallente citizens which are racially charged, not police violence nor profiling. And are you implying that the Black Eagle director is a xenophobic Gallente extremist who wants to purposefully damage the relations between Gallente and Minmatar by shooting a bunch of people and an ex-Minmatar Prime Minister? That sounds fairly far fetched to me, especially considering that the shooter in question might not have even had Midular as his prime target.
3. And there is no prejudice at all against any other Matari citizens in the other nations, especially Amarr? News flash, racism has been present everywhere regardless of location, culture or nation. And if you didn't know it already, The Caille court has agreed to let Sebiestor Tribe delegates to observe the trial. While it isn't much, it proves that not all, or perhaps not even most of the Gallente judicial system is prejudistic, and we are doing something to improve our relations.
Now it's your turn to do something for us, while some of your accusations may be and are correct, all the Tribal Council has done to try and correct the situation by now is throw insults at us and attack our territory. |
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