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EternalRMG ZionTCD 328	Posted - 2013.07.09 02:10:00 - [61] - Quote m8 locus grenades dont show in the assets tab or in the market, but they do in the fitting screen they are proto nades Got them from salvage
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 5787	Posted - 2013.07.09 02:35:00 - [62] - Quote Thanks for the updates will forward.
Karazantor Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 53	Posted - 2013.07.09 02:57:00 - [63] - Quote Saga II LAV. Available under the normal market (not militia). Requires no skills Has better stats than basic saga. Far superior in every way to militia. 10k each? Not on my PS3 at present so the price is not 100% sure. Definitely looks like a mistake along the lines of the hacked AV grenades though.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 5789	Posted - 2013.07.09 03:00:00 - [64] - Quote Karazantor wrote: Saga II LAV. Available under the normal market (not militia). Requires no skills Has better stats than basic saga. Far superior in every way to militia. 10k each? Not on my PS3 at present so the price is not 100% sure. Definitely looks like a mistake along the lines of the hacked AV grenades though. This was removed last night hopefully please reply back if its still in. Fiddlestaxp wrote: 'Cistern' K-17D nanohive has no repair rate and has different CPU/PG values than it's namesake. Core Flaylock has a meta level of 1 and 2 PG cost. It is a proto weapon and neither of these values seem correct. Related perhaps? Care to fully explain a bit? BTW guys thanks for helping out hopefully these will get resolved soon enough.
IgniteableAura Pro Hic Immortalis League of Infamy 47	Posted - 2013.07.09 14:46:00 - [65] - Quote I think the aur grenades are pay to win. The contact grenades are really useful and they need to have an isk equivalent besides the proto variant. There is an uplink ('Abyss' Carthum Drop Uplink) that is only for AUR (spawn time really low but only works as long as deployer is alive) that needs isk equivalent. Aur turrets also have lower fitting requirements (PG/CPU) and feel that is PTW. No advanced proximity explosives No repair tool for installations (there was one in chromosome) The repair tool tree in general needs consolidation. Ferroscale need aur variants as well as reactive plates
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 6204	Posted - 2013.07.16 06:24:00 - [66] - Quote Bumping up for new items updated the OP a bit will be going though confirming the list on my own as well.
Bill990988 Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 2	Posted - 2013.07.16 21:00:00 - [67] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Hey guys, Its been awhile since Uprising but we're still finding things that just don't seem to be the right price, can be bought in one place and not another. Despite best efforts the complexities of the markets still seems to keep seeping in occurrences that causes confusion or wonderment or we all know that are just plain wrong. So what types of items are we looking for? Few items of note: AURUM/Special Promotion Items available for sale via isk Example: Hacked AV Grenades from the Various Mercenary Packs was available for ISK. Items in which there is a disparity in power of the same meta-level Example: There vehicle shield extender module unlocked 2 modules at a certain level and one offered no advantage against the other in any category including fitting. Items that have improper Skill Requirements Example: Mobile CRU Module does not require the Mobile CRU Skill Example 2: An infantry Complex shield module required lvl 4 skills as opposed to lvl 5 skills as all other complex items do. Items that can be bought in market but not fitting, Items that can be bought in fitting but not market Example: M2 Contact grenades were for the longest time obtainable through the fitting screen once a player reached sufficient skill. Unfair value Example: Buying a Bundle yields less value equivalent to the items bought individually. Improper Pricing Scale Example: A prototype item was far cheaper than its basic counterpart in the same family Experimental Items Example: The Saga II was clearly not intended for player market and was a developer slip up. Typos So can you guys help ID any others of things you can currently buy and give a short stint as to why its messed up? Remember we're only making a short list of 'broken' items and not asking for things to get nerfed or balanced. Items Tracked so far: Hacked AV Grenades - Can be bought for Isk. - Resolved Drop Ships still Absurdly Priced. - Unresolved Aurum Prototype Injectors are far inferior to the Advanced Aurum Prototype Injectors. - ??? Needs Confirmation Militia Vehicle Shield Regenerator BPO has requires 30 CPU; the BPC item only requires 25 CPU - Resolved M2 Contact Grenades are available only purchasable through fitting window. - ??? Charged Snipe Rifle is still at old price and not the prototype price. - Resolved New Needs Confirmations Gallente Light/Scout Suit Progression from Advanced to Prototype nonsensed slot layout A 2H 2L => P 1H 4L Militia Vehicle Active Scanner distance of 0.8 meters vs Standard Vehicle Active Scanner 80m Prototype Powergrid Upgrade Requires Engineering lvl 4. Ishukone Gauged Nanohive vs Ishukone Nanohive disparity M8 Locus Grenade does not show in asset or market but found in fitting screen. Proximity Explosive have no Advanced Version So anything been changed? Or has this thread died with no blue tag responses? Or IWS give up?
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 6215	Posted - 2013.07.17 04:47:00 - [68] - Quote Bill990988 wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Hey guys, Its been awhile since Uprising but we're still finding things that just don't seem to be the right price, can be bought in one place and not another. Despite best efforts the complexities of the markets still seems to keep seeping in occurrences that causes confusion or wonderment or we all know that are just plain wrong. So what types of items are we looking for? Few items of note: AURUM/Special Promotion Items available for sale via isk Example: Hacked AV Grenades from the Various Mercenary Packs was available for ISK. Items in which there is a disparity in power of the same meta-level Example: There vehicle shield extender module unlocked 2 modules at a certain level and one offered no advantage against the other in any category including fitting. Items that have improper Skill Requirements Example: Mobile CRU Module does not require the Mobile CRU Skill Example 2: An infantry Complex shield module required lvl 4 skills as opposed to lvl 5 skills as all other complex items do. Items that can be bought in market but not fitting, Items that can be bought in fitting but not market Example: M2 Contact grenades were for the longest time obtainable through the fitting screen once a player reached sufficient skill. Unfair value Example: Buying a Bundle yields less value equivalent to the items bought individually. Improper Pricing Scale Example: A prototype item was far cheaper than its basic counterpart in the same family Experimental Items Example: The Saga II was clearly not intended for player market and was a developer slip up. Typos So can you guys help ID any others of things you can currently buy and give a short stint as to why its messed up? Remember we're only making a short list of 'broken' items and not asking for things to get nerfed or balanced. Items Tracked so far: Hacked AV Grenades - Can be bought for Isk. - Resolved Drop Ships still Absurdly Priced. - Unresolved Aurum Prototype Injectors are far inferior to the Advanced Aurum Prototype Injectors. - ??? Needs Confirmation Militia Vehicle Shield Regenerator BPO has requires 30 CPU; the BPC item only requires 25 CPU - Resolved M2 Contact Grenades are available only purchasable through fitting window. - ??? Charged Snipe Rifle is still at old price and not the prototype price. - Resolved New Needs Confirmations Gallente Light/Scout Suit Progression from Advanced to Prototype nonsensed slot layout A 2H 2L => P 1H 4L Militia Vehicle Active Scanner distance of 0.8 meters vs Standard Vehicle Active Scanner 80m Prototype Powergrid Upgrade Requires Engineering lvl 4. Ishukone Gauged Nanohive vs Ishukone Nanohive disparity M8 Locus Grenade does not show in asset or market but found in fitting screen. Proximity Explosive have no Advanced Version So anything been changed? Or has this thread died with no blue tag responses? Or IWS give up? Actually I got tasked to update this.
Eurydice Itzhak Militaires Sans Jeux 113	Posted - 2013.07.17 05:06:00 - [69] - Quote Just Gunna throw it out there that the aur gunnlogi has more CPU than the isk version.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 6215	Posted - 2013.07.17 05:32:00 - [70] - Quote Eurydice Itzhak wrote: Just Gunna throw it out there that the aur gunnlogi has more CPU than the isk version. That may be intentioned. Ill try to have a discussion with marketing about 'fair' value of an AUR vehicle.

Syther Shadows The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 335	Posted - 2013.07.17 06:14:00 - [71] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: -snip-] Last time i checked the nanite injector's tools had 2 aur items doing the same thing but one costing less hope this helps
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 6408	Posted - 2013.07.22 18:03:00 - [72] - Quote Quick bump going to do a quick confirmation pass on all items that I can.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 6413	Posted - 2013.07.22 19:56:00 - [73] - Quote Okay sorting the list now you can add new items if you want.
Malkai Inos Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 760	Posted - 2013.07.22 20:01:00 - [74] - Quote Comfirming STD AUR injector with PRO ISK performance as of two days ago.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 6414	Posted - 2013.07.22 20:14:00 - [75] - Quote Malkai Inos wrote: Comfirming STD AUR injector with PRO ISK performance as of two days ago. yeah just did a confirm pass a post back and updating
Shotty GoBang Pro Hic Immortalis League of Infamy 393	Posted - 2013.07.22 22:14:00 - [76] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Quick bump going to do a quick confirmation pass on all items that I can. ... Proto Scout carries same market price as Proto Medium/Heavy. In every exchange on the planet, under-performing items trade at deep discounts (i.e. junk bonds, penny stocks). In every store on the planet, broken or otherwise crappy items are shelved in Clearance aisles. - Shotty GoBang
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 6418	Posted - 2013.07.22 23:12:00 - [77] - Quote Shotty GoBang wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Quick bump going to do a quick confirmation pass on all items that I can. ... Proto Scout carries same market price as Proto Medium/Heavy. In every exchange on the planet, under-performing items trade at deep discounts (i.e. junk bonds, penny stocks). In every store on the planet, broken or otherwise crappy items are shelved in Clearance aisles. - Shotty GoBang Right now we don't have fluxuating NPC vendors like eve online does but it could be something that could be tried. Meanwhile I am not sure if all the proto suits are supposed to be in the same price pocket but will check around, aside from that the scout isn't that much better than the light even with the bonuses.
Funkmaster Whale 0uter.Heaven EoN. 94	Posted - 2013.07.22 23:50:00 - [78] - Quote I think Uprising 1.0 had a note saying that they standardized all the suit costs since Heavies were getting boned ISK wise. For some reason the Commando suit exists outside this right now.
Aqua-Regia Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 309	Posted - 2013.07.23 04:00:00 - [79] - Quote Not A Market Oddities Just Some CCP BS. Can you spot it? Militia Submachine Gun (BPC) & Militia Submachine Gun Blueprint (BPO) Description: A standard-issue semi-automatic weapon that is less efficient and bulkier than other variants Attributes: TypeProjectile Damage23.0 (HP) Rate of Fire1000.0 (RPM) Accuracy Rating51.7 Clip Size64 Max. Ammo480 Reload Time3.5 (s) Meta Level0 SlotSidearm CPU20 PG5 Required Skill:No Skills Required Price:(BPC: 270 ISK) // (BPO: 11,800 AUR) ==================== Submachine Gun (BPC) Description: The SMG is lightweight, semi-automatic weapon designed for close-quarters combat Attributes: TypeProjectile Damage23.0 (HP) Rate of Fire1000.0 (RPM) Accuracy Rating51.7 Clip Size80 Max. Ammo480 Reload Time3.0 (s) Meta Level1 SlotSidearm CPU15 PG3 Required Skill: -Weaponry LV:1 --Sidearm Operation LV:2 ---Submachine Gun Operation LV:1 Price:675 ISK ==================== Recruit Submachine Gun (BPO) Description: A Recruit-issue semi-automatic weapon that offers a slight performance upgrade over the Militia version Attributes: TypeProjectile Damage21.5 (HP) Rate of Fire1000.0 (RPM) Accuracy Rating51.7 Clip Size64 Max. Ammo480 Reload Time3.5 (s) Meta Level0 SlotSidearm CPU20 PG5 Required Skill:No Skills Required Price:Become a Recruit (25,000 WP) ==================== 'Toxin'ICD-9 Submachine Gun (BPO) Description: A modified version of the Republic's seminal light weapon adapted to fire doped slugs & 'Syndicate' Submachine Gun (BPO) Description: A cheap, reliable weapon first popularized by criminal organizations in the Curse region Attributes: TypeProjectile Damage23.0 (HP) Rate of Fire1000.0 (RPM) Accuracy Rating51.7 Clip Size80 Max. Ammo480 Reload Time3.0 (s) Meta Level1 SlotSidearm CPU15 PG3 Required Skill:No Skills Required Price:13,800 AUR Did you find CCP BS? Try looking again
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 6451	Posted - 2013.07.23 05:26:00 - [80] - Quote Aqua-Regia wrote: Used Formating that made it difficult to get the point across and forced people do more work to see what is being said, yet luckily was not ignored.* Hmm requires some boiling. /me applies boiler. Recruit Submachine Gun (BPO) Damage21.5 (HP) Clip Size64 Reload Time3.5 (s) CPU20 PG5 Militia Submachine Gun (BPC) Militia Submachine Gun Blueprint (BPO) Damage23.0 (HP) Clip Size64 Max. Ammo480 Reload Time3.5 (s) CPU20 PG5 'Toxin'ICD-9 Submachine Gun (BPO) 'Syndicate' Submachine Gun (BPO) Damage23.0 (HP) Clip Size80 Reload Time3.0 (s) CPU15 PG3 Submachine Gun (BPC) Damage23.0 (HP) Clip Size80 Reload Time3.0 (s) CPU15 PG3 Nope don't see a problem.

richiesutie 2 Seraphim Auxiliaries CRONOS. 181	Posted - 2013.07.23 06:51:00 - [81] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Aqua-Regia wrote: Used Formating that made it difficult to get the point across and forced people do more work to see what is being said, yet luckily was not ignored.* Hmm requires some boiling. /me applies boiler. Recruit Submachine Gun (BPO) Damage21.5 (HP) Clip Size64 Reload Time3.5 (s) CPU20 PG5 Militia Submachine Gun (BPC) Militia Submachine Gun Blueprint (BPO) Damage23.0 (HP) Clip Size64 Max. Ammo480 Reload Time3.5 (s) CPU20 PG5 'Toxin'ICD-9 Submachine Gun (BPO) 'Syndicate' Submachine Gun (BPO) Damage23.0 (HP) Clip Size80 Reload Time3.0 (s) CPU15 PG3 Submachine Gun (BPC) Damage23.0 (HP) Clip Size80 Reload Time3.0 (s) CPU15 PG3 Nope don't see a problem. Recruit has less dmg?
Aqua-Regia Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 310	Posted - 2013.07.23 18:15:00 - [82] - Quote richiesutie 2 wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Aqua-Regia wrote: Used Formating that made it difficult to get the point across and forced people do more work to see what is being said, yet luckily was not ignored.* Hmm requires some boiling. /me applies boiler. Recruit Submachine Gun (BPO) Damage21.5 (HP) Clip Size64 Reload Time3.5 (s) CPU20 PG5 Militia Submachine Gun (BPC) Militia Submachine Gun Blueprint (BPO) Damage23.0 (HP) Clip Size64 Max. Ammo480 Reload Time3.5 (s) CPU20 PG5 'Toxin'ICD-9 Submachine Gun (BPO) 'Syndicate' Submachine Gun (BPO) Damage23.0 (HP) Clip Size80 Reload Time3.0 (s) CPU15 PG3 Submachine Gun (BPC) Damage23.0 (HP) Clip Size80 Reload Time3.0 (s) CPU15 PG3 Nope don't see a problem. Recruit has less dmg? +1 yes
Aqua-Regia Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 318	Posted - 2013.07.23 23:55:00 - [83] - Quote is this to hard? tip: read the description
Aqua-Regia Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 318	Posted - 2013.07.23 23:59:00 - [84] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Aqua-Regia wrote: Used Formating that made it difficult to get the point across and forced people do more work to see what is being said, yet luckily was not ignored.* Hmm requires some boiling. /me applies boiler. Recruit Submachine Gun (BPO) Damage21.5 (HP) Clip Size64 Reload Time3.5 (s) CPU20 PG5 Militia Submachine Gun (BPC) Militia Submachine Gun Blueprint (BPO) Damage23.0 (HP) Clip Size64 Max. Ammo480 Reload Time3.5 (s) CPU20 PG5 'Toxin'ICD-9 Submachine Gun (BPO) 'Syndicate' Submachine Gun (BPO) Damage23.0 (HP) Clip Size80 Reload Time3.0 (s) CPU15 PG3 Submachine Gun (BPC) Damage23.0 (HP) Clip Size80 Reload Time3.0 (s) CPU15 PG3 Nope don't see a problem. some smg stats are red herring
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 885	Posted - 2013.07.24 00:10:00 - [85] - Quote EDIT never mind, forums screwing with me...
Medic 1879 Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 747	Posted - 2013.07.28 13:22:00 - [86] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: M8 Packed Locus Grenades seemed to have been removed from the game. Will poke around if thats the case. Just received a few more of these as salvage and as always they are not on the market and not in salvage. However I am now able to equip them from the fitting screen and restock them from there as well. I am sure I tried this before to see if they were in game and they were never on the fitting screen either.
RINON114 B.S.A.A. General Tso's Alliance 351	Posted - 2013.07.28 17:09:00 - [87] - Quote I noticed an oddity with the Gallente starter suit that isn't really a market issue, but still needs a correction similar to these things here. Basically the description is just a wall of text, that's it. A few presses of the return key should fix it.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 6683	Posted - 2013.07.28 22:35:00 - [88] - Quote Medic 1879 wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: M8 Packed Locus Grenades seemed to have been removed from the game. Will poke around if thats the case. Just received a few more of these as salvage and as always they are not on the market and not in salvage. However I am now able to equip them from the fitting screen and restock them from there as well. I am sure I tried this before to see if they were in game and they were never on the fitting screen either. Thank you for clarifying I don't have the skills to fit these yet (thus cannot restock) Aside from that, can you or anyone else you know confirm a similar item? the tactical scrambler pistol which last i know of is drop only. Or officer weapons.
Medic 1879 Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 756	Posted - 2013.07.28 23:18:00 - [89] - Quote I dont have the skills to fit them either, but as long as you put them on a suit even if it invalidates your fitting you can restock them. About the scramber pistol I have some IA5 tactical scrambler pistols in my assets which are equip-able but are not restock-able, not sure if those are the ones you mean.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 6684	Posted - 2013.07.28 23:25:00 - [90] - Quote Medic 1879 wrote: I dont have the skills to fit them either, but as long as you put them on a suit even if it invalidates your fitting you can restock them. About the scramber pistol I have some IA5 tactical scrambler pistols in my assets which are equip-able but are not restock-able, not sure if those are the ones you mean. Yup that is the only similar weapon I can think of.



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