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5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak5q
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.11 07:40:00 -
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CCP Wolfman wrote:Hi We made changes to the mouse first because that appeared to have the more significant issue. The updated mouse sensitivity scale is now virtually the same as Chromosome. The only differences are a spike that existed at the end of the scale has been smoothed out and ADS speed is higher. We wanted to get these changes to you quickly so we could gauge the impact they would have before making further updates. The rotation speed limitations that are applied to the different dropsuit classes do present issues for tuning control with the mouse and ensuring DS3 players donGÇÖt find themselves at a very significant disadvantage. The maximum settings for pitch and yaw are one of the areas we are currently looking at making further changes to. We are continuing to work with and test different settings for both DS3 and mouse and we will make further updates once we have tested them. The feedback we have received has been very useful but also very varied, in some cases conflicting and in others confusing. We have been unable to replicate some of the issues (such as Move settings having an impact on the mouse which just shouldnGÇÖt be possible). Because of this we are also investigating the possibility that changes/problems outside of the control system itself are effecting the experience. More on that if we find anything. One last thing, whether youGÇÖre providing constructive feedback or screaming in pure hatred please mention what control method youGÇÖre using. We really need to know that CCP Wolfman
CCP Wolfman just posted this in the stickied aiming thread.
This confirmed two things.
1. Speed limit is in place, and will not go away. 2. Mouse users are nerfed purely because of "mouse is too good".
That's it, I quit.
Dust is confirmed dead, good bye.
1. Speed limit Different suits gives you different speed limit - this is NOT what an fps should behave. This has became a first person MMORPG. With this "mechanism" in place, the game will never be skill based, and the control will NEVER be fixed because of how speed limits works. With speed limits on, you cannot even twitch shoot enemies even within a small angle. Your reaction time is not a useful skill anymore.
Dust is now confirmed to be an RPG and not a shooter. The "first person shooter" experience I am looking for is DEAD.
2. Mouse is too good for FPS, so we nerfed it! :CCP logic: So you basically confirmed the :CCP logic: I predicted earlier. Since I am a mouse user, I can not put up with non-sense like this, especially when the control is speed limited in the first place.
Good bye Dust, it was good while it lasted. But you are an RPG, and will not become a proper FPS, let alone "e-sport" or "triple A shooter". I should have guessed. :CCP:
This will be the last post you see. Unless CCP magically reverse all the damage they have done, but knowing :CCP: being :CCP:, that is simply impossible.
Good bye!
PS I would give out my stuff, but CCP hasn't code in a way to transfer ISK or items so I can't. LOLOLOL |
Smooth Head
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
31
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Posted - 2013.05.11 07:43:00 -
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TURD 514 just lost 10% of its entire player base. |
UK-Shots
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
49
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Posted - 2013.05.11 07:44:00 -
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how can i get your stuff? i would life to claim first dibs |
Mr Gloo Gloo
What The French CRONOS.
75
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Posted - 2013.05.11 07:45:00 -
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You're waking up ?
IT has always been right this way : MMO/RPG/FPS --> this is not a surprise. |
Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
32
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Posted - 2013.05.11 07:47:00 -
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bye. |
P14GU3
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
64
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Posted - 2013.05.11 07:48:00 -
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L8s! Think its funny that because you can't WTFPOINTNCLICKPWN, all the DS3 guys, who are using the control made for the system btw, that it's OMGBS! Use the DS3 until they get it fixed, if ever. Maybe throw a little "skill" into your game? |
Jotun Hiem
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
654
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Posted - 2013.05.11 07:48:00 -
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Uhm... The speed limit has been a thing for... ever?
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XeroTheBigBoss
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
286
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Posted - 2013.05.11 07:50:00 -
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I am almost out the door with you. This is not a FPS it's not even a MMO or RPG It's just a pile of **** MMO is always open world base. If you are calling this aMMO than so was MAG so was Socom so was every other game in existence. |
Jotun Hiem
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
654
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Posted - 2013.05.11 07:52:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:I am almost out the door with you. This is not a FPS it's not even a MMO or RPG It's just a pile of **** MMO is always open world base. If you are calling this aMMO than so was MAG so was Socom so was every other game in existence. You didn't even read his complaint, did you? |
XeroTheBigBoss
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
286
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Posted - 2013.05.11 07:55:00 -
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Jotun Hiem wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:I am almost out the door with you. This is not a FPS it's not even a MMO or RPG It's just a pile of **** MMO is always open world base. If you are calling this aMMO than so was MAG so was Socom so was every other game in existence. You didn't even read his complaint, did you?
I did, than went on to say I am soon to be out of this game too and added my opinion. Hop off. |
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Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
392
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Posted - 2013.05.11 07:57:00 -
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He's got valid points, though. Mouse users should not be penalized for using the mouse properly.
DS3 users like to scream out with visceral hatred towards me when i mention this, but the console FPS community is the only competitive gaming community in the entire industry to demand other control methods be banned from play.
The fighting game community does not put up with that kind of whining, nor do racing game communities, flight sim communities, or PC FPS communities.
Just the console FPS community. They stand alone as selfish, ignorant, and incapable of taking responsibility for their own equipment.
And in this case, the responsible folks who truly are competitive are the ones who are suffering for it. Kinda lame. |
UK-Shots
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
49
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Posted - 2013.05.11 07:57:00 -
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if the controls for both ds3 and mouse stay the same. all i can say is that dust is un-playable for me.. i might as well just let every one kill me
as much as i enjoy playing the aiming as gone totally wack for me |
Hecarim Van Hohen
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
30
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Posted - 2013.05.11 07:58:00 -
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Bye! I assure you, you won't be missed :) |
XeroTheBigBoss
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
286
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Posted - 2013.05.11 07:59:00 -
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Hecarim Van Hohen wrote:Bye! I assure you, you won't be missed :)
Get disbanded again please |
Johnny Guilt
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
71
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Posted - 2013.05.11 08:00:00 -
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they souldnt have bothered with KBM in the first place if there was going to be this many problems |
Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
32
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Posted - 2013.05.11 08:06:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:He's got valid points, though. Mouse users should not be penalized for using the mouse properly.
DS3 users like to scream out with visceral hatred towards me when i mention this, but the console FPS community is the only competitive gaming community in the entire industry to demand other control methods be banned from play.
The fighting game community does not put up with that kind of whining, nor do racing game communities, flight sim communities, or PC FPS communities.
Just the console FPS community. They stand alone as selfish, ignorant, and incapable of taking responsibility for their own equipment.
And in this case, the responsible folks who truly are competitive are the ones who are suffering for it. Kinda lame.
mouse users shudnt exploit turn speed and strafe bugs, but they do. ha ha ha. u got what was coming to u. sh!tty for the ppl who didnt. i used to watch and listen to ppl in the warbarg passing these little tips around, u shud have reported it before everyone abused it. sry utsuru if ur reading this. any mouse user ive talked to said it was op for sniping aswell. the option to use a controller is on the table but that wud mean ud have to play fair |
Hecarim Van Hohen
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
30
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Posted - 2013.05.11 08:07:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Hecarim Van Hohen wrote:Bye! I assure you, you won't be missed :) Get disbanded again please You still here? I tought you were leaving? |
Rupture Reaperson
Deadly Blue Dots RISE of LEGION
119
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Posted - 2013.05.11 08:09:00 -
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Who are you,oh well, do you have any officer SMGs to spare?Please? Pretty please? |
XeroTheBigBoss
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
286
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Posted - 2013.05.11 08:09:00 -
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Hecarim Van Hohen wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Hecarim Van Hohen wrote:Bye! I assure you, you won't be missed :) Get disbanded again please You still here? I tought you were leaving?
If you knew how to read you would see that I said I am almost out the door not out the door. Meaning I am not leaving yet but if things don't change I will. Reading Comprehension lvl1 I see? |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
392
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Posted - 2013.05.11 08:09:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:He's got valid points, though. Mouse users should not be penalized for using the mouse properly.
DS3 users like to scream out with visceral hatred towards me when i mention this, but the console FPS community is the only competitive gaming community in the entire industry to demand other control methods be banned from play.
The fighting game community does not put up with that kind of whining, nor do racing game communities, flight sim communities, or PC FPS communities.
Just the console FPS community. They stand alone as selfish, ignorant, and incapable of taking responsibility for their own equipment.
And in this case, the responsible folks who truly are competitive are the ones who are suffering for it. Kinda lame. mouse users shudnt exploit turn speed and strafe bugs, but they do. ha ha ha. u got what was coming to u. sh!tty for the ppl who didnt. i used to watch and listen to ppl in the warbarg passing these little tips around, u shud have reported it before everyone abused it. sry utsuru if ur reading this. any mouse user ive talked to said it was op for sniping aswell. the option to use a controller is on the table but that wud mean ud have to play fair
Did you ask your cat to type that for you?
Those years between 10 and 13 can be rough. |
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BioClone Ax-45
Grupo de Asalto Chacal CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.05.11 08:10:00 -
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Sorry if you cant have an OP mouse controls Vs Pads.
Mouse its AN OPTION, and it makes that the people who re really bad with the Pad, use the mouse + keyboard. But with the same good/bad things... you cant turn on 1 sec if you wanna with mouse, the same way, you cant do it with pad.
About the MMO/RPG/FPS disccuss, seriously... you see how the game works NOW? It isnt about the update. |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
392
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Posted - 2013.05.11 08:13:00 -
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BioClone Ax-45 wrote:Sorry if you cant have an OP mouse controls Vs Pads.
Mouse its AN OPTION, and it makes that the people who re really bad with the Pad, use the mouse + keyboard. But with the same good/bad things... you cant turn on 1 sec if you wanna with mouse, the same way, you cant do it with pad.
About the MMO/RPG/FPS disccuss, seriously... you see how the game works NOW? It isnt about the update.
I can pretty much destroy everyone in this game on pad or mouse.
Mouse just happens to be a higher skill mountain and a lot of lazy console gamers are intimidated by it.
You never had to learn how to aim before, poor you. |
tribal wyvern
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
904
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Posted - 2013.05.11 08:13:00 -
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OP there have always been turning speeds for different suits you tool |
Vin Vicious
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
66
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Posted - 2013.05.11 08:15:00 -
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I don't care |
Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
32
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Posted - 2013.05.11 08:15:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Darken-Sol wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:He's got valid points, though. Mouse users should not be penalized for using the mouse properly.
DS3 users like to scream out with visceral hatred towards me when i mention this, but the console FPS community is the only competitive gaming community in the entire industry to demand other control methods be banned from play.
The fighting game community does not put up with that kind of whining, nor do racing game communities, flight sim communities, or PC FPS communities.
Just the console FPS community. They stand alone as selfish, ignorant, and incapable of taking responsibility for their own equipment.
And in this case, the responsible folks who truly are competitive are the ones who are suffering for it. Kinda lame. mouse users shudnt exploit turn speed and strafe bugs, but they do. ha ha ha. u got what was coming to u. sh!tty for the ppl who didnt. i used to watch and listen to ppl in the warbarg passing these little tips around, u shud have reported it before everyone abused it. sry utsuru if ur reading this. any mouse user ive talked to said it was op for sniping aswell. the option to use a controller is on the table but that wud mean ud have to play fair Did you ask your cat to type that for you? Those years between 10 and 13 can be rough.
yeah i asked my cat to type it huh huh |
Ansiiis The Trustworthy
Seraphim Auxiliaries CRONOS.
20
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Posted - 2013.05.11 08:15:00 -
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You do know that turn speed is pretty much chromosome... The hotfix helped a lot. |
Jebus McKing
DUST University Ivy League
58
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Posted - 2013.05.11 08:26:00 -
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The hotfix we got yesterday pretty much made me able to hit things again with M/KB. And I'm doing very well now. It still is hugely different from playing with M/KB on a PC, but to be honest you can get used to the way it works in DUST, all it needs is a little practise. |
Hecarim Van Hohen
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
30
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Posted - 2013.05.11 08:31:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Hecarim Van Hohen wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Hecarim Van Hohen wrote:Bye! I assure you, you won't be missed :) Get disbanded again please You still here? I tought you were leaving? If you knew how to read you would see that I said I am almost out the door not out the door. Meaning I am not leaving yet but if things don't change I will. Reading Comprehension lvl1 I see? My mistake then, English not being my native language takes it's toll on my reading comprehension. But putting that aside, if you decide to leave no one will miss you and if you decide to stay no one cares. |
XeroTheBigBoss
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
287
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Posted - 2013.05.11 08:34:00 -
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Hecarim Van Hohen wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Hecarim Van Hohen wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Hecarim Van Hohen wrote:Bye! I assure you, you won't be missed :) Get disbanded again please You still here? I tought you were leaving? If you knew how to read you would see that I said I am almost out the door not out the door. Meaning I am not leaving yet but if things don't change I will. Reading Comprehension lvl1 I see? My mistake then, English not being my native language takes it's toll on my reading comprehension. But putting that aside, if you decide to leave no one will miss you and if you decide to stay no one cares.
I hope somebody infiltrates your crappy corp again. It was quite entertaining to see you guys crying how you lost your isk and got kicked from your own corp |
Ghural
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
78
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Posted - 2013.05.11 08:44:00 -
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As a mouse user, I want an even playing field. Otherwise none of my victories count. |
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