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gobbybobbyy
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.05.10 23:02:00 -
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Im sorry but the DUST side FAC war sort of LINK between DUST and EVE is completely broken
If an EVE alliance join Say minmatar Fac war
then
the ENTIRE
ALLIANCE
should be in minmatar fac war
there should be NO WAY
a DUST player should be able to Fight For Amarr, Caldari, or even Gallente (although Gallente are friend with minmatar, so that would make sense)
Either make Fac war, Opt into only or Remove it from DUST entirely
thanks
Sincerely
PISSED off EVE player |
Dis Cord
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
101
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Posted - 2013.05.10 23:05:00 -
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gobbybobbyy wrote:Im sorry but the DUST side FAC war sort of LINK between DUST and EVE is completely broken
If an EVE alliance join Say minmatar Fac war
then
the ENTIRE
ALLIANCE
should be in minmatar fac war
there should be NO WAY
a DUST player should be able to Fight For Amarr, Caldari, or even Gallente (although Gallente are friend with minmatar, so that would make sense)
Either make Fac war, Opt into only or Remove it from DUST entirely
thanks
Sincerely
PISSED off EVE player
OMG...I hadn't even thought of this, lol.
GG CCP. |
Jotun Hiem
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
634
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Posted - 2013.05.10 23:05:00 -
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Learn to space your lines properly or gtfo. |
steadyhand amarr
NW WARLORDS
519
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Posted - 2013.05.10 23:08:00 -
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OMG OMG OMG first EvE player QQ, grats boys where officaly causing EvE QQ.
where mercs we fight for the highest bidder get your own alliance into line sounds like your pissed beucase you cant control us which is half the reason the devs want us in here :) where here to mix things up and **** you guys off.
i cant wait for the few merc group to screw the goons for the lols :) (it will be a epic bad idea but still funny :P)
*though i will admit afking and suside needs fixing for exploit resions. i think 100,000 isk fine per event should do the trick |
Dis Cord
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
101
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Posted - 2013.05.10 23:11:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:where mercs we fight for the highest bidder get your own alliance into line
He makes a good point Bobby. |
Keyser Soze VerbalKint
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
291
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Posted - 2013.05.10 23:13:00 -
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gobbybobbyy wrote:Im sorry but the DUST side FAC war sort of LINK between DUST and EVE is completely broken
If an EVE alliance join Say minmatar Fac war
then
the ENTIRE
ALLIANCE
should be in minmatar fac war
there should be NO WAY
a DUST player should be able to Fight For Amarr, Caldari, or even Gallente (although Gallente are friend with minmatar, so that would make sense)
Either make Fac war, Opt into only or Remove it from DUST entirely
thanks
Sincerely
PISSED off EVE player
We are mercs we fight for who ever pays us the most, we don't care about your spaceship politics.
If you meet our price we will burn the universe for you.
I coudlnt find the trailer but it summed it up pretty nicely. |
Kiro Justice
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
89
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Posted - 2013.05.10 23:14:00 -
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Hehehe...No. Go play your game sad little space kitten, and when you understand that without FW we don't have ANYTHING to do aside from instant battles, then you can come back. |
arimal lavaren
L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
246
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Posted - 2013.05.10 23:17:00 -
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I would actually like it if we could sign on to a faction and show some flurbtastic RP loyalty or whatever. But I do not see a mechanical problem with what we currently have (besides the problem of no more than 3-4 FW matches being run in a day). |
IamI3rian
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
17
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Posted - 2013.05.10 23:18:00 -
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Keyser Soze VerbalKint wrote:We are mercs we fight for who ever pays us the most, we don't care about your spaceship politics.
If you meet our price we will burn the universe for you.
+1.
You said, "spaceship politics."
<3 |
Polish Hammer
Conspiratus Immortalis League of Infamy
394
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Posted - 2013.05.10 23:18:00 -
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If you have some sort emotional ties to certain races, you're not going to make it far as a merc-for-hire.
Sorry.
Also, Jotun Heim wrote:Learn to space your lines properly or gtfo. |
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gobbybobbyy
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
20
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Posted - 2013.05.10 23:19:00 -
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Kiro Justice wrote:Hehehe...No. Go play your game sad little space kitten, and when you understand that without FW we don't have ANYTHING to do aside from instant battles, then you can come back.
It just doesn;t make sense to me that if RISE OF LEGION
join Gallente,
That all DUST 514 Mercs in THIS alliance, are not Entered into the Gallente fac war. Therefore are not entered into the Gallete fac war,. |
IamI3rian
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
18
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Posted - 2013.05.10 23:19:00 -
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arimal lavaren wrote:I would actually like it if we could sign on to a faction and show some flurbtastic RP loyalty or whatever. But I do not see a mechanical problem with what we currently have (besides the problem of no more than 3-4 FW matches being run in a day). Not sure if serious. They're WAY more common than that.
If you're exaggerating though, for dramatic effect I completely agree. They really only have like 2-3 at one time.
They DO know about this though, and are attempting to fix it. There are more... pressing matters to deal with first it seems. |
gobbybobbyy
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
20
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Posted - 2013.05.10 23:20:00 -
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gobbybobbyy wrote:[quote=Kiro Justice]Hehehe...No. Go play your game sad little space kitten, and when you understand that without FW we don't have ANYTHING to do aside from instant battles, then you can come back.
It just doesn;t make sense to me that if RISE OF LEGION
join Gallente,
That all DUST 514 Mercs in THIS alliance, are not Entered into the Gallente fac war.
Becuase EVE side
we are all entered in Gallente fac war
Un able to fight for anyone else
where as Dust mercs are |
Jotun Hiem
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
638
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Posted - 2013.05.10 23:22:00 -
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gobbybobbyy wrote:Kiro Justice wrote:Hehehe...No. Go play your game sad little space kitten, and when you understand that without FW we don't have ANYTHING to do aside from instant battles, then you can come back. It just doesn;t make sense to me that if RISE OF LEGION join Gallente, That all DUST 514 Mercs in THIS alliance, are not Entered into the Gallente fac war. Therefore are not entered into the Gallete fac war,. I fight for the Minmatar exclusively in Fac war. I'd prefer I didn't get lobbed into a fight I'm not interested in because some dude that's not even in my corp likes their green space potatoes. |
gobbybobbyy
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
20
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Posted - 2013.05.10 23:29:00 -
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Jotun Hiem wrote:gobbybobbyy wrote:Kiro Justice wrote:Hehehe...No. Go play your game sad little space kitten, and when you understand that without FW we don't have ANYTHING to do aside from instant battles, then you can come back. It just doesn;t make sense to me that if RISE OF LEGION join Gallente, That all DUST 514 Mercs in THIS alliance, are not Entered into the Gallente fac war. Therefore are not entered into the Gallete fac war,. I fight for the Minmatar exclusively in Fac war. I'd prefer I didn't get lobbed into a fight I'm not interested in because some dude that's not even in my corp likes their green space potatoes.
Im sorry dood but your in an alliance
and your alliance says that we are joining caldari then thats too ******* bad,
Deal with it or leave, you know! |
Anticitizen2501
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
81
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Posted - 2013.05.10 23:31:00 -
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Nah we're mercs, not soldiers.
If only there was a way you could pay us to care...
Saying that, I fight for the Minmatar whenever I can. I wish we got LP and faction gear, then people would fight for the same team more consistently. |
Jotun Hiem
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
638
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Posted - 2013.05.10 23:32:00 -
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gobbybobbyy wrote:Jotun Hiem wrote:gobbybobbyy wrote:Kiro Justice wrote:Hehehe...No. Go play your game sad little space kitten, and when you understand that without FW we don't have ANYTHING to do aside from instant battles, then you can come back. It just doesn;t make sense to me that if RISE OF LEGION join Gallente, That all DUST 514 Mercs in THIS alliance, are not Entered into the Gallente fac war. Therefore are not entered into the Gallete fac war,. I fight for the Minmatar exclusively in Fac war. I'd prefer I didn't get lobbed into a fight I'm not interested in because some dude that's not even in my corp likes their green space potatoes. Im sorry dood but your in an alliance and your alliance says that we are joining caldari then thats too ******* bad, Deal with it or leave, you know! Or I could join the Minmatar and laugh as I blast your face away with my HMG. Whatever works. You know. |
Keyser Soze VerbalKint
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
292
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Posted - 2013.05.10 23:32:00 -
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gobbybobbyy wrote:Kiro Justice wrote:Hehehe...No. Go play your game sad little space kitten, and when you understand that without FW we don't have ANYTHING to do aside from instant battles, then you can come back. It just doesn;t make sense to me that if RISE OF LEGION join Gallente, That all DUST 514 Mercs in THIS alliance, are not Entered into the Gallente fac war. Therefore are not entered into the Gallete fac war,.
Then kick them out and hellpurge them and let it be known ROFL is a GALLENTE only FW alliance. You have that option. But dont force that on people with in game mechanics.
Either enforce it on your own or let it go. |
Keyser Soze VerbalKint
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
292
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Posted - 2013.05.10 23:35:00 -
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I would love it even more if someone in ROFL fights for Caldari by joining Gallente and proceeding to sabotage that side of the match, citing they were paid to do it.
Welcome to the New New Eden. HTFU.
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Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
88
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Posted - 2013.05.10 23:41:00 -
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hahaha... *sighs* the mmo part of this game.
like they said.. "pay us to care" It won't be long till the last fps players here leave, but till then a lot of us don't care about your what was it? "space politics" |
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Nstomper
The Sangheli
400
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Posted - 2013.05.10 23:52:00 -
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Did this dude just say remove faction warfare from the game and there should be no way we should be able to pick who we fight for? Lol this guy is an idiot |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
1508
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Posted - 2013.05.11 00:01:00 -
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My CEO told me to fight for the gallente minmatar side in FW, I do so out of loyalty to him, my Corp and my alliance. Nothing else forces me to fight for those sides, I fight for who I choose, nothing but my own loyalty influe |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
164
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Posted - 2013.05.11 00:03:00 -
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Anticitizen2501 wrote:Nah we're mercs, not soldiers.
Then ensure that your entire Alliance feels the same way and doesn't enlist in FW.
If we choose to be soldiers rather than mercenaries and dedicate the pixelated violence we commit to a single cause then we should be allowed that choice. I am not saying that you can't be a mercenary and sell your violence to the highest bidder, I am simply agreeing with gobby that if your Alliance says "we fight for X" then you fight for X, if you want to fight for Y, GTFO of the Alliance you are in and join/make a new one.
You decide if you are a mercenary or a soldier when you join an Alliance, if your Alliance hasn't been enlisted, merc it up; if it has been enlisted, then get your ass back to the front soldier |
SoTa of PoP
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
175
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Posted - 2013.05.11 00:10:00 -
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I think the OP left his english in space.
But what he's trying to say in his other posts that clarify his point better makes sense. But as Keyser kindly points out it's the corporations responsibility to keep there members in check - if they're fighting for the wrong faction then what your CEO wants then your corp is not handling there internal affairs properly.
The reason you won't see much positive response is because the majority of us have chosen the merc life over the solider life offered in every other game. As such - your spaceship politics don't effect us other then where the next big pay check will be.
Not to mention your lore in general is unknown to almost 90% of us. |
Keyser Soze VerbalKint
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
297
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Posted - 2013.05.11 00:12:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:Anticitizen2501 wrote:Nah we're mercs, not soldiers. Then ensure that your entire Alliance feels the same way and doesn't enlist in FW. If we choose to be soldiers rather than mercenaries and dedicate the pixelated violence we commit to a single cause then we should be allowed that choice. I am not saying that you can't be a mercenary and sell your violence to the highest bidder, I am simply agreeing with gobby that if your Alliance says "we fight for X" then you fight for X, if you want to fight for Y, GTFO of the Alliance you are in and join/make a new one. You decide if you are a mercenary or a soldier when you join an Alliance, if your Alliance hasn't been enlisted, merc it up; if it has been enlisted, then get your ass back to the front soldier
Nah ill just fight for whomever i please. You could always just kick them out of the alliance you know, if they arent adhering to the goals of your alliance. |
IamI3rian
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
19
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Posted - 2013.05.11 00:15:00 -
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SoTa of PoP wrote:Not to mention your lore in general is unknown to almost 90% of us. Yup.
Also, space-politics. |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
164
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Posted - 2013.05.11 00:21:00 -
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Keyser Soze VerbalKint wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:Anticitizen2501 wrote:Nah we're mercs, not soldiers. Then ensure that your entire Alliance feels the same way and doesn't enlist in FW. If we choose to be soldiers rather than mercenaries and dedicate the pixelated violence we commit to a single cause then we should be allowed that choice. I am not saying that you can't be a mercenary and sell your violence to the highest bidder, I am simply agreeing with gobby that if your Alliance says "we fight for X" then you fight for X, if you want to fight for Y, GTFO of the Alliance you are in and join/make a new one. You decide if you are a mercenary or a soldier when you join an Alliance, if your Alliance hasn't been enlisted, merc it up; if it has been enlisted, then get your ass back to the front soldier Nah ill just fight for whomever i please. You could always just kick them out of the alliance you know, if they arent adhering to the goals of your alliance.
You're disregarding the fact that we are supposed to be getting standings for FW soon^TM (yes, I realize this potentially means never). If we get standings for FW battles, mercs who don't adhere to the FW side that their Alliance is enlisted in run the chance of making their Alliance ineligible for FW.
While I think that once we do get standings it should be possible to Awox (potentially dragging their Alliance out of FW), until then, mercs either shouldn't be able to join Alliances/Corporations that are enlisted in FW or should be required to only fight for their Alliance/Corporate side (as well as their sides "Ally"). |
SoTa of PoP
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
177
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Posted - 2013.05.11 00:30:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:
You're disregarding the fact that we are supposed to be getting standings for FW soon^
As you were saying - it might never be added. How do you expect us to care for something that'll be added maybe a year from now? When we cross that path then we can properly discuss it - for now FW is broken by a lot more then just people from alliances jumpin' on the wrong side. |
Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
88
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Posted - 2013.05.11 00:36:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:Keyser Soze VerbalKint wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:Anticitizen2501 wrote:Nah we're mercs, not soldiers. Then ensure that your entire Alliance feels the same way and doesn't enlist in FW. If we choose to be soldiers rather than mercenaries and dedicate the pixelated violence we commit to a single cause then we should be allowed that choice. I am not saying that you can't be a mercenary and sell your violence to the highest bidder, I am simply agreeing with gobby that if your Alliance says "we fight for X" then you fight for X, if you want to fight for Y, GTFO of the Alliance you are in and join/make a new one. You decide if you are a mercenary or a soldier when you join an Alliance, if your Alliance hasn't been enlisted, merc it up; if it has been enlisted, then get your ass back to the front soldier Nah ill just fight for whomever i please. You could always just kick them out of the alliance you know, if they arent adhering to the goals of your alliance. You're disregarding the fact that we are supposed to be getting standings for FW soon^TM (yes, I realize this potentially means never). If we get standings for FW battles, mercs who don't adhere to the FW side that their Alliance is enlisted in run the chance of making their Alliance ineligible for FW. While I think that once we do get standings it should be possible to Awox (potentially dragging their Alliance out of FW), until then, mercs either shouldn't be able to join Alliances/Corporations that are enlisted in FW or should be required to only fight for their Alliance/Corporate side (as well as their sides "Ally").
Yes, your thinking along the lines that many here are familar with eve. Their are still core FPS players here, (TRUE MERCS) that are not going to follow any of that cause well... how can put it? could care less about Eden lass. Me being one. This isn't eve. damn.. not yet anyway. (yeah I do see where this game is going)
But I do understand what you are saying. And my answer is ITS TOO SOON LASS. Standings won't be here for awhile. Dust will move closer to eve, and your have more dusters picking up a role. But for now it's the wild west here.. Say hi to the cold blooded fps players lass. |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
164
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Posted - 2013.05.11 00:41:00 -
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SoTa of PoP wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:
You're disregarding the fact that we are supposed to be getting standings for FW soon^
As you were saying - it might never be added. How do you expect us to care for something that'll be added maybe a year from now? When we cross that path then we can properly discuss it - for now FW is broken by a lot more then just people from alliances jumpin' on the wrong side. Which is exactly why I proposed that we should either not be given the option of fighting for a faction other than our Alliance/Corporations faction/their Ally or not be allowed to join Alliances/Corporations that are enlisted in FW.
@Surt gods end Well, laddie, how about you either start up your own Alliance so you can go play space cowboy or just not join any Alliance/Corporations that are enlisted in FW. |
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Talruum Tezztarozza
Seraphim Auxiliaries CRONOS.
102
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Posted - 2013.05.11 00:56:00 -
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I actually think OP make a good point. While we are a merc, we DID join a corporation. You know ? like we are employee now. When we band together in a corp, our BOSS should be the one who decide who we fight for. If you want to choose your own side, stay freelance. But since our boss never give us a single paycheck, the whole point is kinda moot lol
Btw, yes, I think this should be enforced in game mechanic. But before we get to that point, there are so many things that are broken in FW. Including the ways to educate in-game dusties about EVE lore and....... space politic.
Until these features are implemented, Tough luck Eve players. Deal with it, I guess
Oh I'm also curious what impact does dust FW have on Eve FW ? Why do you care ?? |
Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
88
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Posted - 2013.05.11 01:04:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:SoTa of PoP wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:
You're disregarding the fact that we are supposed to be getting standings for FW soon^
As you were saying - it might never be added. How do you expect us to care for something that'll be added maybe a year from now? When we cross that path then we can properly discuss it - for now FW is broken by a lot more then just people from alliances jumpin' on the wrong side. Which is exactly why I proposed that we should either not be given the option of fighting for a faction other than our Alliance/Corporations faction/their Ally or not be allowed to join Alliances/Corporations that are enlisted in FW. @Surt gods end Well, laddie, how about you either start up your own Alliance so you can go play space cowboy or just not join any Alliance/Corporations that are enlisted in FW.
Laddie? *she likes you dude!* Sweet. |
Blamejudg3s KEQ
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
20
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Posted - 2013.05.11 01:09:00 -
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Dis Cord wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:where mercs we fight for the highest bidder get your own alliance into line He makes a good point Bobby.
That is stupid marketing.
We are fighting for a goal among loyal members, aka Corporate soldiers |
SoTa of PoP
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
178
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Posted - 2013.05.11 01:11:00 -
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Blamejudg3s KEQ wrote:Dis Cord wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:where mercs we fight for the highest bidder get your own alliance into line He makes a good point Bobby. That is stupid marketing. We are fighting for a goal among loyal members, aka Corporate soldiers Not true at all. DUST514 is built around the concept of MERCS not soldiers. But we're granted the choice. |
Skyhound Solbrave
Rough Riders..
31
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Posted - 2013.05.11 01:16:00 -
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If the CEO is fine with someone joint the opposite side of a GW, then this is a moot point. He may even make that decision purposefully so the corp can be paid regardless of the outcome. It's called double dealing under the table.
If you don't want that to happen then just pay a corp more so that doesn't happen. |
Keyser Soze VerbalKint
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
305
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Posted - 2013.05.11 01:34:00 -
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IamI3rian wrote:SoTa of PoP wrote:Not to mention your lore in general is unknown to almost 90% of us. Yup. Also, space-politics.
I like it my way better (Lord of War reference). |
Thog A Kuma
Planetary Response Organisation
87
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Posted - 2013.05.11 01:38:00 -
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Skyhound Solbrave wrote:If the CEO is fine with someone joint the opposite side of a GW, then this is a moot point. He may even make that decision purposefully so the corp can be paid regardless of the outcome. It's called double dealing under the table.
If you don't want that to happen then just pay a corp more so that doesn't happen.
What the game lets us do, that is not clearly an exploit, we can do if we choose. If my Corp believes it is important enough they'll tell me to stop or GTFO. If it is important enough I might have trouble getting in another corp if i get a rep. The only way you are going to affect my behavior is by getting my Corp to talk to me or break my legs whatever...
You have the tools to make a corp care it is called ISK. If you don't think it is important enough to use your available tools don't think it is important enough for us to care.
thats my $.02 any more and you gotta pay for it.
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Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
88
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Posted - 2013.05.11 01:42:00 -
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This is all internal on eve's end. Has nothing to do in the moment with us. US meaning mercs. You dusters that want to play SOLDERS then I would say follow your boss orders. everyone else see where the highest bidders are, and where the "space politics wind is blowing" |
Thumb Green
THE STAR BORN Dark Taboo
80
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Posted - 2013.05.11 01:44:00 -
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If a merc isn't doing what the corp wants then kick them; just the same as you would kick a capsuleer that didn't do what the corp wants. If a DUST corp isn't doing what the alliance wants then kick them; just the same as you would an EVE corp that didn't do what the alliance wants.
We are mercenaries, pay us to give a damn and we will; if that doesn't sound good to you then don't let a DUST corp into your alliance in the first place and just STFU. |
Cpt Murd0ck
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
157
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Posted - 2013.05.11 01:57:00 -
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As an Eve player who is Corp dedicated to faction warfare I'd like to say that the mercs must remain free to do buisness.
If my eve Corp wants to hire the best team of guys to defend or attack certain planets to help plex/deplex systems faster if it comes to that. We should be able to do so.
(FW will have to be fixed first and the mechanics made more transparent.)
Saying that I personally would be more inclined to work with corps or individuals aligned to my militia.
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MasterHunter9thSeal
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.05.11 08:27:00 -
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i understand what some of you are saying but when it comes down to it the player decides really and honestly ive been in a few tough spots like that the other day i had to choose between my corp(My Boss Was Aligned with the amarr) or my alliance with the caldari( Ultimately i chose the Caldari) my point that sometimes to game conflicts with your Corps And Alliances which sucks and i ended up leaving my corp to be a freelance merc for awhile |
Delta 749
Maverick Security Consulting
44
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Posted - 2013.05.11 08:58:00 -
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Cry about it to your spread sheet Its been said many times we are mercs and go where the money is
And remember, its ally not employee you cant just boss everyone around |
Django Quik
R.I.f.t Orion Empire
448
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Posted - 2013.05.11 09:14:00 -
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What all you people that keep saying about being mercs are forgetting is that there currently is no bidding, so you're not fighting for the highest bidder. We aren't paid by EvE players. There's zero incentive for anyone to pick one side over another. You can't say 'If you want us to fight for you, put up the isk' because they can't do that - it's not in the game mechanics (yet).
A good proposal might be that when EvE pilots are doing their FW thing, they can optionally choose an amount of isk to put out for dust contracts to aid them and that gets put into the isk pool for the Dust side FW match. When choosing a side Dust mercs can see how much is being offered and join the side they want. This would make the interaction a bit more tangible and EvE pilots might actually start caring a bit more about their Dusties. |
steadyhand amarr
NW WARLORDS
521
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Posted - 2013.05.11 09:17:00 -
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MasterHunter9thSeal wrote:i understand what some of you are saying but when it comes down to it the player decides really and honestly ive been in a few tough spots like that the other day i had to choose between my corp(My Boss Was Aligned with the amarr) or my alliance with the caldari( Ultimately i chose the Caldari) my point that sometimes to game conflicts with your Corps And Alliances which sucks and i ended up leaving my corp to be a freelance merc for awhile
that feeling you have is core to EvE experience the devs aim for those kind of conflicts, it makes the game and the choices you make matter a lot more for example iv never had an issue clan hopping in any other game, choosing to leave the imperfects to try and make it on my own took me 3-4 months of trying to make my mind up :P.
it makes me happy seeing this community follow the merc lifestyle and i think the devs have been truly cleaver with dust, they have created a powerblock that EvE simply cannot control. I truly truly hope that the devs make us the unknown wildcard in null sec, the group that can ruin the best plans and create new opportunities for those clever enough to get us onside.
I DONT CARE WHAT YOUR GOALS ARE SHOW ME THE ISK
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Kaze Eyrou
ROGUE SPADES EoN.
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Posted - 2013.05.11 09:20:00 -
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gobbybobbyy wrote:PISSED off EVE player
Keyser Soze VerbalKint wrote:We are mercs we fight for who ever pays us the most, we don't care about your spaceship politics. If you meet our price we will burn the universe for you. I coudlnt find the trailer but it summed it up pretty nicely.Edit- this isnt the one, it was one that was presented during a gaming convention but it still works. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fjch0kBjQI&list=SPFC7B99173F4DC31F&index=9 Oh man you were so close to it too! (I think)...
Was it this one?: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gw0gOjOWDuI
They told us we had no chance, that we were fools to even try...
But I'm a mercenary, I don't judge your ambitions, I only judge what you can afford.
Name your price, and I will strike down the heavens.
I've fought your war a thousand times and I've won them all, and I know this is the moment that will chance everything.
On this day, the blood I spill will bring down an empire, and the world will burn before your very eyes.
They will remember us, and they will remember what happened here.
On this battlefield, one shot can change the course of history...
And you are going to be the one who will take it...
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EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1046
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Posted - 2013.05.11 09:24:00 -
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EVE player lol more like an idiot player tbh
Hell i play EVE and in DUST im apart of EoN who are apart of FW for the Caldari
Yet we are all mercs and can do wtf we want to because we have that freedom and if the evil gallente want to pay me more then so be it but i should have the choice of making that decision
FW is fine as it is atm |
Nariec
Carbon 7
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Posted - 2013.05.11 09:26:00 -
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My loyalty is with the ISK. |
Orin the Freak
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2013.05.11 09:58:00 -
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Certainly, in DUST, you can choose your own role. You choose who to play, and how to play him/her.
A lot of people are merc-minded. they want to be paid for their work. I happen to know such an alliance.
Some will work based on loyalty and friendship.
But money talks. When they link FW to EVE, anyone who has been in New Eden for a while knows whatever is more profitable will become the more popular option. Don't forget that. Loyalty comes with a price. That goes both ways.
I don't want to come off like some kind of EVE know-it-all, After all, I'm just an EVE noob (only 6 months under my belt), but common sense isn't something I take lightly. You want the best? you want people who will do what you want them to do? you're going to have to pay. One way or another, you'll pay. |
Darius Ashran
BetaMax. CRONOS.
23
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Posted - 2013.05.11 13:12:00 -
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gobbybobbyy wrote:Im sorry but the DUST side FAC war sort of LINK between DUST and EVE is completely broken
If an EVE alliance join Say minmatar Fac war
then
the ENTIRE
ALLIANCE
should be in minmatar fac war
there should be NO WAY
a DUST player should be able to Fight For Amarr, Caldari, or even Gallente (although Gallente are friend with minmatar, so that would make sense)
Either make Fac war, Opt into only or Remove it from DUST entirely
thanks
Sincerely
PISSED off EVE player
Your formatting is almost as bad as the point you where attempting to make. Note I say attempting because you failed miserably.
Besides we are mercs Not faction warriors. We are being hired BY the factions. Not joining them or supporting there ideology. |
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