OP to me is what children yell when they die in a game that allows a choice of setup. Also a TL;DR would have been nice.

In related vein: The Ten Commandments Of Buff And Nerf Requests.

Bacon is OP, its cruncy and delicious. Bacon needs a major nerf.

The gun is fine.

I am still new to this but am learning from SoTa. You sit here and claim to know the difference between identifying what is OP and what is fine.






Your logic seems flawed.

If you actually read the post, I think you would see that my logic isn't flawed, though you may disagree.

Personally, I count you among the many AR tards that believe their past experience twiddling tiny joysticks qualifies them to comment on things that they know nothing about, like the Flaylock.

Having said that, I don't do PC. So if you are going to say something about Flaylocks and PC, perhaps you should qualify that the problem, among many, is PC. Even if this hyperbolic characterization of PC is true, which I highly doubt, PC represents such a small fraction of the playerbase and games that it is hardly worth mentioning. However, one man's voice, or child's as in your case, doesn't constitute facts. Luckily, CCP can run the numbers of which I speak and determine the OPness of anything they want, all sans forum whining by the likes of you.

Lol! I use Shotgun! Again, you are just mindless ranting for likes.

So you are saying the Core flaylock is fine because in the PUBS it's not a problem?

Real question not being trolly. "Are you stupid or something?" PC is where the competitive players are and if it is a problem here what do you think will happen when they all decide to pub?

I pick you for one of those guys that just sit in MCC or hide in back of the map anytime you see a Imperfect or anything on the other side am I right? YUP! So you would never see that Core Flaylock Pistol is a problem anyway because you only play against the new players.

So in other words to you the Core Flaylock Pistol "is fine" Might wanna read your own OP a few times till it rings a bell.

I really wish I could. I happen to have one. Although it would be taken the wrong way. It's not worth the headache. There is a video though where most the kills are Flaylock pistols. You gotta just look. There will be more upcoming soon. I will favorite this thread and hopefully others would be more willing to post videos.

As far as I'm concerned, what I've posted in the OP in this thread is the only way to determine OPness. Assuming I see convincing evidence that there's a trend in PC that is reducing diversity, and the culprit is the Core Flaylock, then I will side with you immediately that it's a problem in PC.

Until then, I can only go by what I see, and in pub matches, the Flaylocks aren't dominating.

The trend is just starting. Not many videos yet but the video I have in that one alone there is a lot of flaylock kills. 50+ maybe. It's only the beginning. I will keep the community that do not see Flaylocks as a problem informed using this thread I have favorite it.

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Very good post.
I hope people read it and figure out that acronym "OP" really means something over the top.
My definition of OP is if the selection to use something is a "no-brainer" then it most likely is OP.
Buster gets my +1 for this,


However, I disagree on the definition of "if something is very very commonly seen on the field it is OP".
I'd imagine a general purpose weapon like AR is okay if is most common weapon (provided it's killing power is balanced to others)

Thanks.

Let me say this. I think the AR fits the bill of a no-brainer. So by your definition, from my viewpoint, it's OP. Also, on a slightly more businesslike approach to the view of OP, the game designers have made a lot of weapons, and if the AR is, say, 50% of those, it is hurting diversity - precisely because it is a no brainer.

I wouldn't say AR is OP because so many people kill with it. You gotta think AR is the most popular gun because it has been in every single shooter since the beginning of time and is the most basic weapon. Most people know what they are gonna get with a AR. Nobody knows what to expect from Scrambler Laser Shotgun and all the others. AR can be used in every situation.

Only agree with the 3rd point. 1&2 have no meaning to gameplay. Gameplay is the only area a weapon has affect.

I personally think that something that's OP has no reasonable counter besides itself.

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By your reckoning, if the AR is 90% of the weapons on the battlefield, is it OP then, even though it's the "comfort" weapon? Or is 75% the break point?

All I'm saying is there is such a break point, even for the AR.
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OP used logic!
Its not effective at all.

Sorry bro, this forum does not accept logic.

And by this definition the elephant in the room is OP right now Plasma Rifles. (AR) Not because there's anything wrong with the AR, it's actually right where it needs to be in damage in range. I think the BPR should be taken from that line to become a ROF Caldari Guass Rifle, but I digress...
Anyway, my point is, every other weapon needs to be buffed (in damage, splash radius, or range) up a bit so that it can compete with the PR. Right now, they're all just novelties.

So then it's safe to say that LAVs are OP?

Cuz I see at least 8 LAVs per match, even in ambush, and usually more, with no less than 4 on the field at any given time.

Saw a kid go 27/0 in his LLAV last night.

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