Stuck at work and after reading the potentially exciting news I'm curious what those getting to play throughout the day think about the changes.

I'm skeptically optimistic that the change will make everything right, range and movement aside.

Just looking at the viability of the HMG in combat, as up to this point it has been an overweight confetti gun.

please provide your thoughts on the improvements and a basis for the HMG going forward

Stuck at work and after reading the potentially exciting news I'm curious what those getting to play throughout the day think about the changes.

I'm skeptically optimistic that the change will make everything right, range and movement aside.

Just looking at the viability of the HMG in combat, as up to this point it has been an overweight confetti gun.

please provide your thoughts on the improvements and a basis for the HMG going forward

It is basically a 5% dmg buff and a reduction of 5% to the dispersion of bullets. will help for sure, only testing will tell.

So you will kill faster than before
Die faster than before
hit efficiently a little further than before, about 5%, but when moving.

Not sure it is right, but looking at Wang last explanation, I think all weapon will be at 100% efficiency from now on, decreasing over distance. Which is good, since we were at 95% at optimal while AR at 110%. So basically AR wouldn't get any buff (+10%-10%=0%), while HMG and other guns would get 20% (5 from the eff.+10% from weaponry+5% from the weapon).

Wont be playing until monday most probably, so I wont test this until then I guess

It is basically a 5% dmg buff and a reduction of 5% to the dispersion of bullets. will help for sure, only testing will tell.

So you will kill faster than before
Die faster than before
hit efficiently a little further than before, about 5%, but when moving.

Not sure it is right, but looking at Wang last explanation, I think all weapon will be at 100% efficiency from now on, decreasing over distance. Which is good, since we were at 95% at optimal while AR at 110%. So basically AR wouldn't get any buff (+10%-10%=0%), while HMG and other guns would get 20% (5 from the eff.+10% from weaponry+5% from the weapon).

Wont be playing until monday most probably, so I wont test this until then I guess

yea I read the dev post so I have an idea what to expect, but cannot actually get it in my hands until this evening, while I know a lot of people will be trying it out throughout the day...

just trying to get some thoughts from those that have the firsthand experience with it so hopefully I'm in a good mood when I get on

I dont wanna play for 30min then just pick up the forge again and find a perch and be a camper... although I like a nice campfire as much as the next man, its not my style to sit back on a game and roast marshmallows

Since range has not been addressed, this fixes nothing.

I can kill stuff up to 35m reliable.

my longest kill was 40m.

I am using standard HMG.

I can kill stuff up to 35m reliable.

my longest kill was 40m.

I am using standard HMG.

I expect "HMG OP" waves soon, hmg was actually fine.

Can you give more info?

What was the HP of the guy approximately, at least what suit was he using?

How many bullets did you shoot for him to die at 35m?

Exactly. Your longest kill is about the length of a casual game of catch with a football.

Makes NO sense, lol.

I just played a few games with the Boundless and let me tell you. It is a completely different beast now. CQC, it does exactly what it's supposed to do. SHREDS. You can take out Proto suits with ease CQC. They did exactly what they needed to do if they were insisting on having Heavies be objective defenders. We have the same range (with a little dispersion buff) but incredible CQC ability.

I'm excited to play the game again. When you play it, you're going to be amazed.

you are not supposed rto touch the domain of other weapons with HMG. hmg => close range dps. deal with it.

All hail the HMG we are back! The damage was just what we needed! I can even say that the range limit is palatable after having been beat down for so long.

Let the HMG needs a nerf threads commence cause some of you got have forgotten what the hmg is capable of!

Chicago and all you other fatties you will enjoy this! Woo-hoo! Game on !

Boundless base is back to 19.8

Glad to hear this man, thanks.
I will probably look at the prof.lvl 1 assault HMG then to make it get more range.
My 75 gastun are in the closet, what dmg do they have now??

Also, thanks Jack for the quick info.

4 seconds is 130 bullets or so.
HMG dealing about 12, give a 1596 of dmg

Let say the guy had 500hp, you basically hit him for 30% of your dmg.

at 40m your effectiveness is at 50%
So dispersion made you miss 40% of your shots approx.

Im happy for my Fatties out there! I always supported you lost souls in many battles over the last few days, (lately you've been wandering around aimlessly and struggling for a bit...) Now have a good friend in all of you since you are perhaps not broken and will actually play the role as my big burly murder-machines again!! :)

Look me up for some sweet sweet reps should you be passing through my battlefield! Cheers Fatties, glad to have you back!

-Hey Fatty - Combat Logistics Specialist.

If you consider it in terms of a hot fix it's a very generous buff that Heavies should be very grateful for. CCP is usually very conservative when it comes to hot fixes, so this buff at least should make the class very effective in close quarters. I'm curious though when CCP was talking about a damage increase of 18 to HMG's that they meant the Boundless HMG instead of the standard HMG. I doubt it's the regular HMG's because that would be an increase of 4 damage and it's probably the Boundless HMG with an increase of 2.6 damage. The new Heavy buff is significant enough that I am considering going back to HMG's. They might not have the range I was used to, but Heavies should only be useful at close range anyways.

In your world, people just stand outside of a Heavy's 30m range and "touch" them. This renders the HMG useless.

What you have described is contrary to every "HMG" ever produced. Maybe they need to change the name of the weapon?

SRBBG - Short Range BB Gun.

Base HMG 18.0
Boundless HMG 19.7

if you want real life, then go to the army. this is a game and requires balance to be fair for everyone.

yea I read the dev post so I have an idea what to expect, but cannot actually get it in my hands until this evening, while I know a lot of people will be trying it out throughout the day...

just trying to get some thoughts from those that have the firsthand experience with it so hopefully I'm in a good mood when I get on

I dont wanna play for 30min then just pick up the forge again and find a perch and be a camper... although I like a nice campfire as much as the next man, its not my style to sit back on a game and roast marshmallows

inb4 forum tears and 'heavies are OP'

Increase in damage is a good thing, but if that increased dps still can't reach across a street, then effectively there has been no fix.