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CHICAGOCUBS4EVER
TeamPlayers EoN.
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Posted - 2013.05.10 15:14:00 -
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DS 10 wrote:Muramasa Armads wrote:If you consider it in terms of a hot fix it's a very generous buff that Heavies should be very grateful for. CCP is usually very conservative when it comes to hot fixes, so this buff at least should make the class very effective in close quarters. I'm curious though when CCP was talking about a damage increase of 18 to HMG's that they meant the Boundless HMG instead of the standard HMG. I doubt it's the regular HMG's because that would be an increase of 4 damage and it's probably the Boundless HMG with an increase of 2.6 damage. The new Heavy buff is significant enough that I am considering going back to HMG's. They might not have the range I was used to, but Heavies should only be useful at close range anyways. Base HMG 18.0 Boundless HMG 19.7
WoW... yea im getting excited. might not even have to stack dmg mods now, which would be nice |
martinofski
Rebelles A Quebec Orion Empire
85
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Posted - 2013.05.10 15:14:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Dis Cord wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Dis Cord wrote:
Exactly. Your longest kill is about the length of a casual game of catch with a football.
Makes NO sense, lol.
you are not supposed rto touch the domain of other weapons with HMG. hmg => close range dps. deal with it. In your world, people just stand outside of a Heavy's 30m range and "touch" them. This renders the HMG useless. What you have described is contrary to every "HMG" ever produced. Maybe they need to change the name of the weapon? SRBBG - Short Range BB Gun. if you want real life, then go to the army. this is a game and requires balance to be fair for everyone.
Balance yes, but also believable ranges.
Only the forge is handled differently right now, your limit is controlled by the aiming skills you can have and not a hard cap. Which fell fine. Hard cap for hitting vehicles is fine too.
Pointing a HMG and see bullet completely disapear at 50-55m is wierd. Same goes with AR, Laser, Shotgun and so on.
They will look at range in general which make me happy we might feel guns are guns. |
Dis Cord
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
91
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Posted - 2013.05.10 15:15:00 -
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Increase in damage is a good thing, but if that increased dps still can't reach across a street, then effectively there has been no fix. |
Superhero Rawdon
Bloodwolves Battalion Alpha Wolf Pack
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Posted - 2013.05.10 16:57:00 -
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CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote:martinofski wrote:It is basically a 5% dmg buff and a reduction of 5% to the dispersion of bullets. will help for sure, only testing will tell. So you will kill faster than before Die faster than before hit efficiently a little further than before, about 5%, but when moving. Not sure it is right, but looking at Wang last explanation, I think all weapon will be at 100% efficiency from now on, decreasing over distance. Which is good, since we were at 95% at optimal while AR at 110%. So basically AR wouldn't get any buff (+10%-10%=0%), while HMG and other guns would get 20% (5 from the eff.+10% from weaponry+5% from the weapon). Wont be playing until monday most probably, so I wont test this until then I guess yea I read the dev post so I have an idea what to expect, but cannot actually get it in my hands until this evening, while I know a lot of people will be trying it out throughout the day... just trying to get some thoughts from those that have the firsthand experience with it so hopefully I'm in a good mood when I get on I dont wanna play for 30min then just pick up the forge again and find a perch and be a camper... although I like a nice campfire as much as the next man, its not my style to sit back on a game and roast marshmallows
i dont think thats the style of any GOOD heavy.......lulz
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon Plus
274
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Posted - 2013.05.10 16:59:00 -
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inb4 forum tears and 'heavies are OP' |
Snagman 313
Carbon 7
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Posted - 2013.05.10 17:04:00 -
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I GOT MY MURDERIZER BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!
offensive ops are still tricky due to lack of range but in a defensive role I managed to hold a lot more ground and beat the enemy back with a .
I'll try and give a more in depth review tomorrow as RL is taking over for tonight and I've only played 2 amb, 1 amb oms and 1 skirmish but in the skirmish I did well.
regards
Snag |
SoTa of PoP
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
167
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Posted - 2013.05.10 17:11:00 -
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I KILLED SOMEONE WITHOUT HELP!
THANK YOU CCP!!!!!!
lol :P |
Full Metal Kitten
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
234
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Posted - 2013.05.10 17:12:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:inb4 forum tears and 'heavies are OP' Fatties seem OP until you start adapting. Cubs shredded me repeatedly when I was new, then I started managing my engagement envelope and things got better. Since Uprising dropped I can tell you as a casual I stopped giving two ***** about fatties and started worrying about TARs.
Regardless, there's nothing like that "Oh ****!" moment when you turn a corner to jump a dude and it's a heavy or a shotty. :-)
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ZDub 303
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
70
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Posted - 2013.05.10 17:26:00 -
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Dis Cord wrote:Increase in damage is a good thing, but if that increased dps still can't reach across a street, then effectively there has been no fix.
Very true, however, this is only because CCP has implemented 1/2 of the fix to heavies and the HMG (and everyone else).
They've already stated they are changing how ranges and drop off work, so all we need now is to wait for this 'absolute range' to be implemented and see how damage dropoff works from there.
This rather large damage buff will actually equal out once you calculated damage drop at past optimal range. So what it means is that at ranges you were normally fine before, you will be doing alright again. As you will have damage increase then offset slightly by damage drop at range. It should (in theory, after enough tweaks and patches) even back out to where you were before.
Unfortunately youve only got the first half of this fix, and not the more important one.
But hey, enjoy the CQC buff for now while you wait! |
NeoWraith Acedia
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
290
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Posted - 2013.05.10 17:37:00 -
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You guys are going to get nerfed just for being too happy |
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