DUST Search - Thoughts on new HMG buff?

CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote:

martinofski wrote:

It is basically a 5% dmg buff and a reduction of 5% to the dispersion of bullets. will help for sure, only testing will tell.

So you will kill faster than before
Die faster than before
hit efficiently a little further than before, about 5%, but when moving.

Not sure it is right, but looking at Wang last explanation, I think all weapon will be at 100% efficiency from now on, decreasing over distance. Which is good, since we were at 95% at optimal while AR at 110%. So basically AR wouldn't get any buff (+10%-10%=0%), while HMG and other guns would get 20% (5 from the eff.+10% from weaponry+5% from the weapon).

Wont be playing until monday most probably, so I wont test this until then I guess What?

yea I read the dev post so I have an idea what to expect, but cannot actually get it in my hands until this evening, while I know a lot of people will be trying it out throughout the day...

just trying to get some thoughts from those that have the firsthand experience with it so hopefully I'm in a good mood when I get on Cool

I dont wanna play for 30min then just pick up the forge again and find a perch and be a camper... although I like a nice campfire as much as the next man, its not my style to sit back on a game and roast marshmallows


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martinofski Rebelles A Quebec Orion Empire 83	Posted - 2013.05.10 13:32:00 - [1] - Quote It is basically a 5% dmg buff and a reduction of 5% to the dispersion of bullets. will help for sure, only testing will tell. So you will kill faster than before Die faster than before hit efficiently a little further than before, about 5%, but when moving. Not sure it is right, but looking at Wang last explanation, I think all weapon will be at 100% efficiency from now on, decreasing over distance. Which is good, since we were at 95% at optimal while AR at 110%. So basically AR wouldn't get any buff (+10%-10%=0%), while HMG and other guns would get 20% (5 from the eff.+10% from weaponry+5% from the weapon). Wont be playing until monday most probably, so I wont test this until then I guess
martinofski Rebelles A Quebec Orion Empire 83	Posted - 2013.05.10 13:40:00 - [2] - Quote CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote: martinofski wrote: It is basically a 5% dmg buff and a reduction of 5% to the dispersion of bullets. will help for sure, only testing will tell. So you will kill faster than before Die faster than before hit efficiently a little further than before, about 5%, but when moving. Not sure it is right, but looking at Wang last explanation, I think all weapon will be at 100% efficiency from now on, decreasing over distance. Which is good, since we were at 95% at optimal while AR at 110%. So basically AR wouldn't get any buff (+10%-10%=0%), while HMG and other guns would get 20% (5 from the eff.+10% from weaponry+5% from the weapon). Wont be playing until monday most probably, so I wont test this until then I guess yea I read the dev post so I have an idea what to expect, but cannot actually get it in my hands until this evening, while I know a lot of people will be trying it out throughout the day... just trying to get some thoughts from those that have the firsthand experience with it so hopefully I'm in a good mood when I get on I dont wanna play for 30min then just pick up the forge again and find a perch and be a camper... although I like a nice campfire as much as the next man, its not my style to sit back on a game and roast marshmallows I'll be waiting for feedback with you then, next to your campfire. I'll bring my popcorn too.
martinofski Rebelles A Quebec Orion Empire 85	Posted - 2013.05.10 14:08:00 - [3] - Quote I didn't check other guns, but I think AR and other got a skill which reduce dispersion. Why don't we have that if this is the case? This could benefit us a ton regarding effective range. reducing the dispersion factor a little. 3% per prof. lvl let say, 15% maximum. so instead of being effective at about 20-25m max, it would be more like 23-29m. Would still be CQC to me, but more effective. I would do this instead of the 3% dmg buff from profficiency skill. Maybe it is just me.
martinofski Rebelles A Quebec Orion Empire 85	Posted - 2013.05.10 14:09:00 - [4] - Quote Jack McReady wrote: Dis Cord wrote: Since range has not been addressed, this fixes nothing. I can kill stuff up to 35m reliable. my longest kill was 40m. I am using standard HMG. I expect "HMG OP" waves soon, hmg was actually fine. Can you give more info? What was the HP of the guy approximately, at least what suit was he using? How many bullets did you shoot for him to die at 35m?
martinofski Rebelles A Quebec Orion Empire 85	Posted - 2013.05.10 14:15:00 - [5] - Quote DS 10 wrote: I just played a few games with the Boundless and let me tell you. It is a completely different beast now. CQC, it does exactly what it's supposed to do. SHREDS. You can take out Proto suits with ease CQC. They did exactly what they needed to do if they were insisting on having Heavies be objective defenders. We have the same range (with a little dispersion buff) but incredible CQC ability. I'm excited to play the game again. When you play it, you're going to be amazed. Glad to hear this man, thanks. I will probably look at the prof.lvl 1 assault HMG then to make it get more range. My 75 gastun are in the closet, what dmg do they have now??
martinofski Rebelles A Quebec Orion Empire 85	Posted - 2013.05.10 15:10:00 - [6] - Quote What is the gastun dmg now??
martinofski Rebelles A Quebec Orion Empire 85	Posted - 2013.05.10 15:14:00 - [7] - Quote Jack McReady wrote: Dis Cord wrote: Jack McReady wrote: Dis Cord wrote: Exactly. Your longest kill is about the length of a casual game of catch with a football. Makes NO sense, lol. you are not supposed rto touch the domain of other weapons with HMG. hmg => close range dps. deal with it. In your world, people just stand outside of a Heavy's 30m range and "touch" them. This renders the HMG useless. What you have described is contrary to every "HMG" ever produced. Maybe they need to change the name of the weapon? SRBBG - Short Range BB Gun. if you want real life, then go to the army. this is a game and requires balance to be fair for everyone. Balance yes, but also believable ranges. Only the forge is handled differently right now, your limit is controlled by the aiming skills you can have and not a hard cap. Which fell fine. Hard cap for hitting vehicles is fine too. Pointing a HMG and see bullet completely disapear at 50-55m is wierd. Same goes with AR, Laser, Shotgun and so on. They will look at range in general which make me happy we might feel guns are guns.