With the ten present increase to "all hand held weapons" AV weapons will be all that much more powerful. This is a nerf on top of a nerf to all vehicle.

CCP please give vehicles back their 5% PG bonus skill or exclude all AV weapons from this buff.

With the ten present increase to "all hand held weapons" AV weapons will be all that much more powerful. This is a nerf on top of a nerf to all vehicles.

CCP please give vehicles back their 5% PG bonus skill or exclude all AV weapons from this buff.

HTFU and stop your QQTT.

then read the hotfixes

I read the hot fixes dumb@$$. It says they are changing the description not the skill.

So why don't you go **** yourself.

I read the hot fixes dumb@$$. It says they are changing the description not the skill.

So why don't you go **** yourself.

I read the hot fixes dumb@$$. It says they are changing the description not the skill.

So why don't you go **** yourself.

I read the hot fixes dumb@$$. It says they are changing the description not the skill.

So why don't you go **** yourself.

Posting in a thread about ignorance.

I don't see how the pg/CPU fix that's coming wont help you.

I suggest you read it again.

Taking a 100 isk bet this poster can top this post on making himself look like more of stuiped by the end of the tread any takers :-P.

For reals they are fixing the skills not applying pg. and that's been stated enough times it's local level knowledge now

it is physical impossible to frack myself. I didn't even know it was possible to do so until you mentioned it. words from the wise i guess.

anyway go read it again

For those thinking that the hotfix will actually make the skill add 5% per level to vehicle maximum powergrid upto a full bonus of 25%

Well you are wrong

They are changing the description on the skill from 5% per level to vehicle maximum powergrid to -5% CPU usage for powergrid modules

I petitioned CCP about this and basically it was confirmed and i wrote a thread 'CCP why the stealth nerf' and it got locked at the end

I would like the hotfix to give us 5% per level of PG for all vehicles but i dont think it will, i think it will get changed to the correct descriptions and all vehicle users will see that skill as wasted SP

For those thinking that the hotfix will actually make the skill add 5% per level to vehicle maximum powergrid upto a full bonus of 25%

Well you are wrong

They are changing the description on the skill from 5% per level to vehicle maximum powergrid to -5% CPU usage for powergrid modules

I petitioned CCP about this and basically it was confirmed and i wrote a thread 'CCP why the stealth nerf' and it got locked at the end

I would like the hotfix to give us 5% per level of PG for all vehicles but i dont think it will, i think it will get changed to the correct descriptions and all vehicle users will see that skill as wasted SP

Now how looks ******* stupid?

How or Who?

For those thinking that the hotfix will actually make the skill add 5% per level to vehicle maximum powergrid upto a full bonus of 25%

Well you are wrong

They are changing the description on the skill from 5% per level to vehicle maximum powergrid to -5% CPU usage for powergrid modules

I petitioned CCP about this and basically it was confirmed and i wrote a thread 'CCP why the stealth nerf' and it got locked at the end

I would like the hotfix to give us 5% per level of PG for all vehicles but i dont think it will, i think it will get changed to the correct descriptions and all vehicle users will see that skill as wasted SP

Fix to PG/CPU skills for vehicles not applying properly - That is down to the Vehicle core upgrade skill 1% to CPU/PG and maybe even the CPU skill itself, problem is the 1% is going to be changed to only 1% PG applied not 1% CPU like the skill states

Fix to vehicle upgrade skills not correctly applying bonuses to vehicles - Once again the skills are not working but also the descriptions are wrong so they are not adding what they say they will add but adding something completely different

Fixing Vehicle engineering skill description - The vehicle engineering skill will now have -5% to CPU usage for powergrid modules


Now how many of you are assault babbys and do not even have vehicle skills? im going say the entire lot of you who do not understand what the OP is on about

So really you should stfu until you learn the facts

so for a skill that cost maxed out sp 621,840 both electronics and engineering

engineering let's see how much i get outa that many SP
Local powergrid expansion unit eat's up a whole 20CPU let's apply my half mill skill points ok i shave off a whole 5 cpu from that now that module cost me 15 cpu to fit Woot!!

now let's look at the Electronics version
maxxed skill = 25% cpu increase to vehicles total
hurm let's just do something low level
a level 1 lav Saga with starting cpu of 155 is now 193.75 cpu a differance of 38.75
hurm let's try something a little bigger
HC-130 Gunnlogi base cpu 380 with skill 475 cpu a differance of 95 Cpu

Balance this bullshit.
both skills cost the same yet i have to eat a low slot for a powergrid unit to get 15% pg increase and eat up 15 cpu

where the cpu enhancer get's 11% and use's no cpu or powergrid plus there skill get's a 25% increase!

pffttt please.

i hope this does not lead to electronics being nerfed 2

Ya, I think the electronics skill should be nerfed for dropsuits the same way the engineering skill was nerfed for vehicles. Sounds about fair to me.

Im sure there is a reson that ccp have changed the max pg/cpu you can aquire with tanks. Id imagine it was because it was easily possible to fit dual reppers and still have a top notch cannon. Which dont get me wrong, i loved. But it did kind of make me invulnerable to a moderate attack indefinitely, and invulnerable to most of a red lined team with militia swarms and the odd FG for the time i had both the reps running together. Fun times, for my madruger anyway :)

I can't speak to armor tanks but it isn't to same for shields. This nerf is literaly destroy us.

what was your old fit, and what is your new fit. Whats the difference it makes in damage/hp ect ect. Everyone crys underpowered, or overpowered, but until somone actually addresses the reason WHY, its not going to be recognised/addressed.

Your old fit might not fit anymore, but that might be because it was overpowered, IE best of everything. New eden normally forces you to choose between gank or tank. If you choose both, then you can only do each half as good as someone only doing one. For example, If you want the biggest guns, and damage mods, then you might not have any room for tanking ATALL.

put it into perspective for us

what was your old fit, and what is your new fit. Whats the difference it makes in damage/hp ect ect. Everyone crys underpowered, or overpowered, but until somone actually addresses the reason WHY, its not going to be recognised/addressed.

Your old fit might not fit anymore, but that might be because it was overpowered, IE best of everything. New eden normally forces you to choose between gank or tank. If you choose both, then you can only do each half as good as someone only doing one. For example, If you want the biggest guns, and damage mods, then you might not have any room for tanking ATALL.

put it into perspective for us

what was your old fit, and what is your new fit. Whats the difference it makes in damage/hp ect ect. Everyone crys underpowered, or overpowered, but until somone actually addresses the reason WHY, its not going to be recognised/addressed.

Your old fit might not fit anymore, but that might be because it was overpowered, IE best of everything. New eden normally forces you to choose between gank or tank. If you choose both, then you can only do each half as good as someone only doing one. For example, If you want the biggest guns, and damage mods, then you might not have any room for tanking ATALL.

put it into perspective for us

HTFU and stop your QQTT.

then read the hotfixes

Ya, I think the electronics skill should be nerfed for dropsuits the same way the engineering skill was nerfed for vehicles. Sounds about fair to me.

You should know that the hot fix is a flat out lie. All they did was ninja change the skill 200% from what it said it did when I invested into it.

Now it gives CPU on some kind of modules, NOT any PG. There's no way to get more PG and this breaks too many simple fittings. For ds pilots this change is kind of... inexplicable

So all the they did was change the description lol.