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Ignoble Son
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.10 11:10:00 -
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With the ten present increase to "all hand held weapons" AV weapons will be all that much more powerful. This is a nerf on top of a nerf to all vehicles.
CCP please give vehicles back their 5% PG bonus skill or exclude all AV weapons from this buff. |
Ignoble Son
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
196
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Posted - 2013.05.10 11:16:00 -
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Nelo Angel0 wrote:Ignoble Son wrote:With the ten present increase to "all hand held weapons" AV weapons will be all that much more powerful. This is a nerf on top of a nerf to all vehicle.
CCP please give vehicles back their 5% PG bonus skill or exclude all AV weapons from this buff. HTFU and stop your QQTT. then read the hotfixes
I read the hot fixes dumb@$$. It says they are changing the description not the skill.
So why don't you go **** yourself. |
Ignoble Son
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.10 11:28:00 -
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Rurouni Kenshin wrote:Ignoble Son wrote:Nelo Angel0 wrote:Ignoble Son wrote:With the ten present increase to "all hand held weapons" AV weapons will be all that much more powerful. This is a nerf on top of a nerf to all vehicle.
CCP please give vehicles back their 5% PG bonus skill or exclude all AV weapons from this buff. HTFU and stop your QQTT. then read the hotfixes I read the hot fixes dumb@$$. It says they are changing the description not the skill. So why don't you go **** yourself. I don't see how the pg/CPU fix that's coming wont help you. I suggest you read it again.
That is an entirely different skill they are talking about. And the intended changes to that skill (as stated yesterday by CCP Blam! - unless something has changed that I am currently unaware of) is to take away the 1% bonus to CPU that that skill currently gives and limit it to only giving a 1% bonus to PG. Currently can't recall the name of that particular skill. |
Ignoble Son
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.10 11:34:00 -
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WTF? If there is information that I am unaware of. Why not just enlighten me. What is the reason behind insulting me. How ******* rude. |
Ignoble Son
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.10 11:36:00 -
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Nelo Angel0 wrote:Ignoble Son wrote:Nelo Angel0 wrote:Ignoble Son wrote:With the ten present increase to "all hand held weapons" AV weapons will be all that much more powerful. This is a nerf on top of a nerf to all vehicle.
CCP please give vehicles back their 5% PG bonus skill or exclude all AV weapons from this buff. HTFU and stop your QQTT. then read the hotfixes I read the hot fixes dumb@$$. It says they are changing the description not the skill. So why don't you go **** yourself. it is physical impossible to frack myself. I didn't even know it was possible to do so until you mentioned it. words from the wise i guess. anyway go read it again
Actually I do believe that spankin it would qualify. |
Ignoble Son
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
196
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Posted - 2013.05.10 11:38:00 -
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EnglishSnake wrote:For those thinking that the hotfix will actually make the skill add 5% per level to vehicle maximum powergrid upto a full bonus of 25%
Well you are wrong
They are changing the description on the skill from 5% per level to vehicle maximum powergrid to -5% CPU usage for powergrid modules
I petitioned CCP about this and basically it was confirmed and i wrote a thread 'CCP why the stealth nerf' and it got locked at the end
I would like the hotfix to give us 5% per level of PG for all vehicles but i dont think it will, i think it will get changed to the correct descriptions and all vehicle users will see that skill as wasted SP
Now how looks ******* stupid? |
Ignoble Son
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.10 11:49:00 -
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Drako Light wrote:Ignoble Son wrote:EnglishSnake wrote:For those thinking that the hotfix will actually make the skill add 5% per level to vehicle maximum powergrid upto a full bonus of 25%
Well you are wrong
They are changing the description on the skill from 5% per level to vehicle maximum powergrid to -5% CPU usage for powergrid modules
I petitioned CCP about this and basically it was confirmed and i wrote a thread 'CCP why the stealth nerf' and it got locked at the end
I would like the hotfix to give us 5% per level of PG for all vehicles but i dont think it will, i think it will get changed to the correct descriptions and all vehicle users will see that skill as wasted SP
Now how looks ******* stupid? How or Who?
Wow, I guess people just hate me, hunh? And will do anything they can to take a stab a me. *shakes his head* |
Ignoble Son
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.10 11:51:00 -
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Maybe I should just start reporting people for flaming? Get rid of all you *******, |
Ignoble Son
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.10 12:02:00 -
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EnglishSnake wrote:EnglishSnake wrote:For those thinking that the hotfix will actually make the skill add 5% per level to vehicle maximum powergrid upto a full bonus of 25%
Well you are wrong
They are changing the description on the skill from 5% per level to vehicle maximum powergrid to -5% CPU usage for powergrid modules
I petitioned CCP about this and basically it was confirmed and i wrote a thread 'CCP why the stealth nerf' and it got locked at the end
I would like the hotfix to give us 5% per level of PG for all vehicles but i dont think it will, i think it will get changed to the correct descriptions and all vehicle users will see that skill as wasted SP
Fix to PG/CPU skills for vehicles not applying properly - That is down to the Vehicle core upgrade skill 1% to CPU/PG and maybe even the CPU skill itself, problem is the 1% is going to be changed to only 1% PG applied not 1% CPU like the skill states Fix to vehicle upgrade skills not correctly applying bonuses to vehicles - Once again the skills are not working but also the descriptions are wrong so they are not adding what they say they will add but adding something completely different Fixing Vehicle engineering skill description - The vehicle engineering skill will now have -5% to CPU usage for powergrid modules Now how many of you are assault babbys and do not even have vehicle skills? im going say the entire lot of you who do not understand what the OP is on about So really you should stfu until you learn the facts
Ah that is much better. So quiet around here now. Thanks for your help snake.
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Ignoble Son
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.10 13:46:00 -
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ImpureMort wrote:Daalzebul Del'Armgo wrote:so for a skill that cost maxed out sp 621,840 both electronics and engineering
engineering let's see how much i get outa that many SP
Local powergrid expansion unit eat's up a whole 20CPU let's apply my half mill skill points ok i shave off a whole 5 cpu from that now that module cost me 15 cpu to fit Woot!!
now let's look at the Electronics version
maxxed skill = 25% cpu increase to vehicles total
hurm let's just do something low level
a level 1 lav Saga with starting cpu of 155 is now 193.75 cpu a differance of 38.75
hurm let's try something a little bigger
HC-130 Gunnlogi base cpu 380 with skill 475 cpu a differance of 95 Cpu
Balance this bullshit.
both skills cost the same yet i have to eat a low slot for a powergrid unit to get 15% pg increase and eat up 15 cpu
where the cpu enhancer get's 11% and use's no cpu or powergrid plus there skill get's a 25% increase!
pffttt please.
i hope this does not lead to electronics being nerfed 2
Ya, I think the electronics skill should be nerfed for dropsuits the same way the engineering skill was nerfed for vehicles. Sounds about fair to me. |
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Ignoble Son
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.10 14:22:00 -
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Drommy Hood wrote:Im sure there is a reson that ccp have changed the max pg/cpu you can aquire with tanks. Id imagine it was because it was easily possible to fit dual reppers and still have a top notch cannon. Which dont get me wrong, i loved. But it did kind of make me invulnerable to a moderate attack indefinitely, and invulnerable to most of a red lined team with militia swarms and the odd FG for the time i had both the reps running together. Fun times, for my madruger anyway :)
I can't speak to armor tanks but it isn't to same for shields. This nerf is literaly destroy us. |
Ignoble Son
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
198
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Posted - 2013.05.10 14:49:00 -
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Drommy Hood wrote:Ignoble Son wrote:Drommy Hood wrote:Im sure there is a reson that ccp have changed the max pg/cpu you can aquire with tanks. Id imagine it was because it was easily possible to fit dual reppers and still have a top notch cannon. Which dont get me wrong, i loved. But it did kind of make me invulnerable to a moderate attack indefinitely, and invulnerable to most of a red lined team with militia swarms and the odd FG for the time i had both the reps running together. Fun times, for my madruger anyway :) I can't speak to armor tanks but it isn't to same for shields. This nerf is literaly destroy us. what was your old fit, and what is your new fit. Whats the difference it makes in damage/hp ect ect. Everyone crys underpowered, or overpowered, but until somone actually addresses the reason WHY, its not going to be recognised/addressed. Your old fit might not fit anymore, but that might be because it was overpowered, IE best of everything. New eden normally forces you to choose between gank or tank. If you choose both, then you can only do each half as good as someone only doing one. For example, If you want the biggest guns, and damage mods, then you might not have any room for tanking ATALL. put it into perspective for us
With the old fitting, I could fit a proto shield booster and a proto shield extender (the two PG intensive things for shield tanks) and equip an advanced blaster. Now I am forced to choose either a booster or an extender. The only way I could run both is to run a standard blaster, and that is just absurdly under powered. |
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