DUST Search - New Mercenary Pack(s): Mecenary, Veteran, Elite!

alten hilt wrote:

Anyone else notice that they have taken out the 150 Std - Pro HAV's from the Elite pack and replaced them with 50 Militia HAVs? I dont have a screen shot to prove it. But it has definetely changed.

I would love to have more BPO's, but CCP's failure to adhere to their stated refund policy of Raven and Server BPOs has locked my wallet. It reminds me of the "Greed is Good" debacle in Eve.

Will CCP never learn that that you make more money with honey than vinegar? Trade is supposed to be win/win, but if you violate my trust, and force me to lose so that you win (just to milk a little extra money from me), you have lost me as a customer.

Thanks but no thanks CCP. Especially since all the BPOs of the next packs are just renamed/reskined varients of the pre-uprising suits and weapons.

Also, since you ( CCP) have increased the SP sink, I highly recommend that you build your packs around racial varients. Most players are forced into a single racial dropsuit/weapon because of the high SP costs. Most players would probably sink 10 - 20 dollars to get some STD level BPO's to fit their choosen race/weapon/playstyle.

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NAV HIV The Generals EoN. 206	Posted - 2013.05.10 13:50:00 - [31] - Quote Skittles McDuckett wrote: NAV HIV wrote: Any stats on the Dren AR? Supposedly the same as the Exile. Apparently all the BPOs have the same stats as available BPOs. Not interested then. Why would i want to spend 100$ to get an exile. If it has the same stats as the GEK then i'd very interested. Don't want to spend 100$ to get militia/standard grade items
Sponglyboy Squaredoo Not Guilty EoN. 24	Posted - 2013.05.10 13:52:00 - [32] - Quote until CCP fixes the problems they have caused, my money is staying right here in my pocket
Skittles McDuckett SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 26	Posted - 2013.05.10 13:58:00 - [33] - Quote stormtroopin wrote: Skittles McDuckett wrote: NAV HIV wrote: Any stats on the Dren AR? Supposedly the same as the Exile. Apparently all the BPOs have the same stats as available BPOs. they damn well better. if not... let the pay2win threads commence. I have no problem with P2W as long as the game is available for free. It's like being a racecar driver... it is a combination of the driver's skill and the car itself that contributes to how well they do. So, ****** driver + a ton of money = car that can place decently... Just watch out for those good drivers with a lot of money
Scramble Scrub Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 165	Posted - 2013.05.10 14:07:00 - [34] - Quote My wallet is still closed
Medic 1879 The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION 273	Posted - 2013.05.10 14:09:00 - [35] - Quote Why oh why do we get 2 types of BPO saga and no methana? Variety is the spice of life.
NAV HIV The Generals EoN. 206	Posted - 2013.05.10 14:13:00 - [36] - Quote Skittles McDuckett wrote: stormtroopin wrote: Skittles McDuckett wrote: NAV HIV wrote: Any stats on the Dren AR? Supposedly the same as the Exile. Apparently all the BPOs have the same stats as available BPOs. they damn well better. if not... let the pay2win threads commence. I have no problem with P2W as long as the game is available for free. It's like being a racecar driver... it is a combination of the driver's skill and the car itself that contributes to how well they do. So, ****** driver + a ton of money = car that can place decently... Just watch out for those good drivers with a lot of money Well if am willing to pay the price, i should get something out it, no? Give and take...
J-Lewis Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 56	Posted - 2013.05.10 14:21:00 - [37] - Quote **** BPOS SERIOUSLY >:(
thecoolest guy IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback 2	Posted - 2013.05.10 14:23:00 - [38] - Quote I'll have to check when I'm back in the game but aren't these: 1 Scout G-1 (same as Valor) (c) 1 Heavy A-1 (a basic frame?) (c) 1 Assault C-1 (same as Raven) (c) 1 Logistics M-1 (same as Sever) (c) What the skinweave suits turned into?
Skittles McDuckett SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 26	Posted - 2013.05.10 14:24:00 - [39] - Quote NAV HIV wrote: Skittles McDuckett wrote: stormtroopin wrote: Skittles McDuckett wrote: NAV HIV wrote: Any stats on the Dren AR? Supposedly the same as the Exile. Apparently all the BPOs have the same stats as available BPOs. they damn well better. if not... let the pay2win threads commence. I have no problem with P2W as long as the game is available for free. It's like being a racecar driver... it is a combination of the driver's skill and the car itself that contributes to how well they do. So, ****** driver + a ton of money = car that can place decently... Just watch out for those good drivers with a lot of money Well if am willing to pay the price, i should get something out it, no? Give and take... AMEN!
G Sacred Rubber Chicken Bombers 83	Posted - 2013.05.10 14:34:00 - [40] - Quote I don't know about you guys but I'm thinking about getting all three. Before you go "wow either this guy is rich or just plain stupid" hear me out. Instead of spending 20$ on a merc pack that only give you one active booster with 40,000 AUR (12,000 since I would use 28,000 to buy a passive booster as well) You could save your money, get 4 Active boosters, 3 passive boosters, and 340,000 AUR, plus a hell of a lot of blueprints. The only thing I spend AUR on is boosters and occasionally an AR or 10 if I really need something with more power, since I don't have AR 5 yet. So If I spent the AUR on boosters only, (this estimate is at the REGULAR price of 28,000 per 30day, not the sale at 21,000 per 30day) I could get 12 more boosters on top of the 4 active and 3 passive I would already have. That is close to a year of passive and active boosters. If you split it up evenly, its 9 months worth of both passive and active boosters. The total cost would be ~170$. Now that is equal to about 8 merc packs, or 320,000 AUR. So it is a MAJOR dump of money on ONE day, but if you are looking at this for the long run, like me, it is a sound investment. (Lets not discuss anything about CCP and what you think you should or should not have gotten back in the respec okay?) I don't know about you people, but I plan to be playing this game for the next year. I don' t mean spending every waking minute on the game. I will still be playing on Battlefield and other games inbetween.

NAV HIV The Generals EoN. 207	Posted - 2013.05.10 14:52:00 - [41] - Quote Need stats on the weapons
Thor Odinson42 Planetary Response Organization 195	Posted - 2013.05.10 14:52:00 - [42] - Quote Is it going to require 10,000,000 SP to run all that stuff? Or is it similar to last build where you had to skill one or two levels into it?
NAV HIV The Generals EoN. 207	Posted - 2013.05.10 16:17:00 - [43] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: Is it going to require 10,000,000 SP to run all that stuff? Or is it similar to last build where you had to skill one or two levels into it? I guess not
xxMemphis KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 15	Posted - 2013.05.10 16:38:00 - [44] - Quote So they are going to sell you a BPO to replace the BPO you bought in the merc pack..?? then let you use it without skills but still require you to dump 2mil SP into the older version??? Wrong move... I would spend the money but not happy at all about the SP sink it was to use the current version of the same suit...you can keep your 5% hack speed bonus I will use another race if I can. I hope that these suits are a sign that CCP is going to give you an optional SP respec soon to offset the MAG suits and other mistakes in the SP system
Drako Light ZionTCD Unclaimed. 14	Posted - 2013.05.10 16:53:00 - [45] - Quote Wy can't they adjust the mag tribute suits so we can use them instead of selling shtacko!!
stormtroopin Cygnus Tactical Operations Gentlemen's Agreement 67	Posted - 2013.05.10 19:16:00 - [46] - Quote Skittles McDuckett wrote: stormtroopin wrote: Skittles McDuckett wrote: NAV HIV wrote: Any stats on the Dren AR? Supposedly the same as the Exile. Apparently all the BPOs have the same stats as available BPOs. they damn well better. if not... let the pay2win threads commence. I have no problem with P2W as long as the game is available for free. It's like being a racecar driver... it is a combination of the driver's skill and the car itself that contributes to how well they do. So, ****** driver + a ton of money = car that can place decently... Just watch out for those good drivers with a lot of money lol oh definitely. and believe me, I have the skill to play well without it, but I will for sure abuse the FCK out of anything that comes close to being p2w. I don't think it's fair, but I have no problem dumping a lot more $$ into the game than the average player would. even if I don't need it. I would just hate to see dust turn out like that.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 2907	Posted - 2013.05.10 19:55:00 - [47] - Quote Definitely NOT what I was hoping for. ONE equivalent to the current Merc Pack. ONE. ONLY ONE. What I WANTED to see: The currently-announced Merc Pack as an option with a focus on one specific race Rename it "Gallente Mercenary Pack" or something. Make sure that Assault suit is a Gallente suit to go with the Gallente AR. An Assault suit, and a Light weapon. Cool. Now do it for everyone. Amarr Assault suit with Scrambler Rifle. Hold off on Caldari and Minmatar Mercenary Packs until we get AR-equivalents on these races. Then add some race-exclusive packs. Gallente Recon Pack: Scout suit + Shotgun Minmatar Support Pack: Logi + Mass Driver Caldari Tank-Hunter Pack: Assault + Swarm Launcher Amarr/Caldari Alliance Pack: Sentinel + Forge Gun emphasise the faction relations, and give us more options at reasonable prices. If it weren't for the $100 price tag (which will be about $200 by the time it reaches me, even though it should logically only be about $120 of our currency to match the price), I'd consider the Elite Pack because it has some really nice items I'd love to have. But I'm paying SO MUCH and sure, there's a lot there, but I DON'T WANT MOST OF IT. I want LESS so I can pay an amount that's actually borderline sensible for me to be paying. I'm sorry, CCP, but as cool as it would be to have the Dren Shotgun and Swarm Launcher, it's not worth enough to me to spend that amount. Especially if there isn't a valid option on the table for the closed beta Merc Packs yet. Has that changed yet? I just woke up... still sorting out what's happening.
Raige Carte KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 0	Posted - 2013.05.10 20:15:00 - [48] - Quote What kind of prices are we looking at in Euro territory for the different new packs?
BursegSardaukar Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance 127	Posted - 2013.05.10 20:23:00 - [49] - Quote So more BPO's that are of the same type as existing ones? No Gallente G-I Assault?
Spunty Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 14	Posted - 2013.05.10 22:42:00 - [50] - Quote Damn. I was hoping for racial or class specific packs.

Arlon Physson Aideron Robotics 5	Posted - 2013.05.10 22:51:00 - [51] - Quote Arramakaian Eka wrote: I'd like to hear how CCP plans to address the issues with old Merc Pack and AUR refunds. Until those are resolved, I can't in good conscience trust CCP with (more of) my money. That's been addressed here: http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/05/uprising-skill-point-re-spec-details/ in the last paragraph. You can stop whining now.
Arramakaian Eka Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 489	Posted - 2013.05.10 22:55:00 - [52] - Quote Arlon Physson wrote: Arramakaian Eka wrote: I'd like to hear how CCP plans to address the issues with old Merc Pack and AUR refunds. Until those are resolved, I can't in good conscience trust CCP with (more of) my money. That's been addressed here: http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/05/uprising-skill-point-re-spec-details/ in the last paragraph. You can stop whining now. That is not "addressing" it, it is CCP giving a big extended middle finger to their paying customers.
Grimmnyr Odynson WarRavens Orion Empire 5	Posted - 2013.05.10 23:52:00 - [53] - Quote I'd like a pack with an Amarr heavy suit and HMG. Is that too much to ask?
alten hilt DUST University Ivy League 12	Posted - 2013.05.13 15:06:00 - [54] - Quote Anyone else notice that they have taken out the 150 Std - Pro HAV's from the Elite pack and replaced them with 50 Militia HAVs? I dont have a screen shot to prove it. But it has definetely changed. I would love to have more BPO's, but CCP's failure to adhere to their stated refund policy of Raven and Server BPOs has locked my wallet. It reminds me of the "Greed is Good" debacle in Eve. Will CCP never learn that that you make more money with honey than vinegar? Trade is supposed to be win/win, but if you violate my trust, and force me to lose so that you win (just to milk a little extra money from me), you have lost me as a customer. Thanks but no thanks CCP. Especially since all the BPOs of the next packs are just renamed/reskined varients of the pre-uprising suits and weapons. Also, since you ( CCP) have increased the SP sink, I highly recommend that you build your packs around racial varients. Most players are forced into a single racial dropsuit/weapon because of the high SP costs. Most players would probably sink 10 - 20 dollars to get some STD level BPO's to fit their choosen race/weapon/playstyle.
alten hilt DUST University Ivy League 12	Posted - 2013.05.13 15:09:00 - [55] - Quote Very Sneaky CCP. You have also raised the price of the Mercenary pack from 9.99 to 19.99. Do you think we are all stupid? Raising costs and lowering rewards behind our backs without any explanation as to why?
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. 218	Posted - 2013.05.13 15:10:00 - [56] - Quote alten hilt wrote: Anyone else notice that they have taken out the 150 Std - Pro HAV's from the Elite pack and replaced them with 50 Militia HAVs? I dont have a screen shot to prove it. But it has definetely changed. I would love to have more BPO's, but CCP's failure to adhere to their stated refund policy of Raven and Server BPOs has locked my wallet. It reminds me of the "Greed is Good" debacle in Eve. Will CCP never learn that that you make more money with honey than vinegar? Trade is supposed to be win/win, but if you violate my trust, and force me to lose so that you win (just to milk a little extra money from me), you have lost me as a customer. Thanks but no thanks CCP. Especially since all the BPOs of the next packs are just renamed/reskined varients of the pre-uprising suits and weapons. Also, since you ( CCP) have increased the SP sink, I highly recommend that you build your packs around racial varients. Most players are forced into a single racial dropsuit/weapon because of the high SP costs. Most players would probably sink 10 - 20 dollars to get some STD level BPO's to fit their choosen race/weapon/playstyle. Yeah, I'm not going to spend money on something I won't be able to use for 2 years.
alten hilt DUST University Ivy League 12	Posted - 2013.05.13 15:19:00 - [57] - Quote From https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=780741#post780741 Elite Pack $99.99 200,000 AUR Two 30-Day Active Skill Boosters Two 30-Day Passive Skill Boosters Permanent [BPO]: GÇó Ishukone Watch Saga Light Assault Vehicle GÇó Dren Scout G-I dropsuit GÇó Dren Heavy A-I dropsuit GÇó Dren Assault C-I dropsuit GÇó Dren Logistics M-I dropsuit GÇó Dren shotgun GÇó Dren swarm launcher GÇó Dren scrambler pistol GÇó Dren assault rifle 50 copies each [BPC]: GÇó Sica Heavy Assault Vehicle GÇó Assault C-I Heavy Assault Vehicle GÇó Assault C/1-Series Heavy Assault Vehicle GÇó Assault ck.0 Heavy Assault Vehicle From http://dust514.com/news/2013/05/merc-vet-elite-packs/ ELITE PACK COST $99.99 AURUM 200,000 BOOSTER GÇó 30-Day Active Skill Booster (x2) GÇó 30-Day Passive Skill Booster (x2) WEAPONS GÇó Dren Shotgun (permanent) GÇó Dren Swarm Launcher (permanent) GÇó Dren Scrambler Pistol (permanent) GÇó Dren Assault Rifle (permanent) DROPSUITS GÇó Dren Scout G-I (permanent) GÇó Dren Heavy A-I (permanent) GÇó Dren Assault C-I (permanent) GÇó Dren Logistics M-I (permanent) GÇó Assault C-I (x50) GÇó Assaut C/1 Series (x50) GÇó Assault ck.0 (x50) GEAR VEHICLES GÇó Ishuhkone Watch Saga LAV (permanent) GÇó SICA HAV (x50) Maybe it's just a typo, because I'm pretty sure there are no Assault C-1:C/1:ck.0 Heavy Assault Vehicles. But, there is a huge difference between 150 STD-PRO dropsuits, and 150 STD-PRO HAVs. Also, stop editing things behind our backs! if you make a mistake, ADMIT it with an EDIT tag, just like the rest of us. This will go long way to creating a more transparent (i.e. trusting) DEV-player relationship.
martinofski Rebelles A Quebec Orion Empire 91	Posted - 2013.05.13 15:37:00 - [58] - Quote Nothing really interesting for heavies, again. I will definitely not spend 100$ for a single suit BPO. By the way, for the stats, aren't they in the item variant when looking into the actual items details? I am not in from of the PS3 today.


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