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Phoenix Arakyd
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Posted - 2013.05.09 15:18:00 -
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I took the time to do my research before I dumped my SP. I shouldnt have to do it again because its too hard for you kiddies.
Or, let them have a respec, but take half their SP away. |
ISuperstar
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.09 15:20:00 -
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I say no to your stupid thread and mental retardation. |
Macheria Perforati
Defensores Doctrina
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Posted - 2013.05.09 15:21:00 -
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Nevermind that some vehicle skills didn't do what they claimed to do and the only way for players to find this out was for them to spend SP and find out the hard way (or have someone else do it first and give them some warning). |
Knight SoIaire
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Posted - 2013.05.09 15:22:00 -
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Define 'Research'
What exactly did you do? |
Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
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Posted - 2013.05.09 15:22:00 -
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Phoenix Arakyd wrote:I took the time to do my research before I dumped my SP. I shouldnt have to do it again because its too hard for you kiddies.
Or, let them have a respec, but take half their SP away.
So your saying you should not waste 2 min to put your sp back to where you put em. I didn't screw up my repec either, but come dude what's the real reason to not let them have it? |
Phoenix Arakyd
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Posted - 2013.05.09 15:22:00 -
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ISuperstar wrote:I say no to your stupid thread and mental retardation.
isnt that cute. |
Phoenix Arakyd
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Posted - 2013.05.09 15:23:00 -
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Macheria Perforati wrote:Nevermind that some vehicle skills didn't do what they claimed to do and the only way for players to find this out was for them to spend SP and find out the hard way (or have someone else do it first and give them some warning).
CCP is fixing those skills, get over it. |
Phoenix Arakyd
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Posted - 2013.05.09 15:24:00 -
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Knight SoIaire wrote:Define 'Research'
What exactly did you do?
I did my skill planning, carefully looked at skills. Purposefully avoided vehicles once I saw the skill changes to them. |
Phoenix Arakyd
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Posted - 2013.05.09 15:25:00 -
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Surt gods end wrote:Phoenix Arakyd wrote:I took the time to do my research before I dumped my SP. I shouldnt have to do it again because its too hard for you kiddies.
Or, let them have a respec, but take half their SP away. So your saying you should not waste 2 min to put your sp back to where you put em. I didn't screw up my repec either, but come dude what's the real reason to not let them have it?
Yes. |
Knight SoIaire
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Posted - 2013.05.09 15:26:00 -
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Phoenix Arakyd wrote:Macheria Perforati wrote:Nevermind that some vehicle skills didn't do what they claimed to do and the only way for players to find this out was for them to spend SP and find out the hard way (or have someone else do it first and give them some warning). CCP is fixing those skills, get over it.
No they're not.
They say "+5% to Vehicle PG per level", but what they actually do is give a "-5% CPU cost to PG modules per level" they're just going to change the description to suit that, leaving us Pilots left with SP in skills we never would've wanted.
Coming from a guy who speaks so highly of research, you dont do a lot, do you? |
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EnIgMa99
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Posted - 2013.05.09 15:28:00 -
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you guys know whats going to happen again right? Whatever you skilled into will get "rebalanced" again and will have to ask for another sp reallocation. this whole game is effed. |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.09 15:29:00 -
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Phoenix Arakyd wrote:I took the time to do my research before I dumped my SP. I shouldnt have to do it again because its too hard for you kiddies.
Or, let them have a respec, but take half their SP away.
How did a ****** like you get into IE?
I worked everything out SP wise, i knew how much SP i was putting and where
Then CCP drops a bomb, the skills dont work but also they have the wrong descriptions then i find out what the proper descriptions do say and essentially its a stealth PG nerf to all vehicles which effects everything and if it was one nerf i knew about before the build i could have gone assault babby like you did
CCP screwed up big time with the skills and requirements espc for vehicles, they have changed the entire vehicle class and essentially killed it atm |
Beld Errmon
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Posted - 2013.05.09 15:30:00 -
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Phoenix Arakyd wrote:I took the time to do my research before I dumped my SP. I shouldnt have to do it again because its too hard for you kiddies.
Or, let them have a respec, but take half their SP away.
You might be my corpie, but fk off and die, you'll be crying for a respec when they nerf whatever FOTM fit you followed the big boys into. |
Phoenix Arakyd
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Posted - 2013.05.09 15:32:00 -
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Knight SoIaire wrote:Phoenix Arakyd wrote:Macheria Perforati wrote:Nevermind that some vehicle skills didn't do what they claimed to do and the only way for players to find this out was for them to spend SP and find out the hard way (or have someone else do it first and give them some warning). CCP is fixing those skills, get over it. No they're not. They say "+5% to Vehicle PG per level", but what they actually do is give a "-5% CPU cost to PG modules per level" they're just going to change the description to suit that, leaving us Pilots left with SP in skills we never would've wanted. Coming from a guy who speaks so highly of research, you dont do a lot, do you?
Oh, I'm sorry you couldnt build a super tank. HTFU and throw some PG mods on it. |
K9 Wez
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.05.09 15:34:00 -
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Phoenix Arakyd wrote:ISuperstar wrote:I say no to your stupid thread and mental retardation. isnt that cute.
Judging from this thread i have also concluded that your are in fact suffering from profound mental retardation. |
EnIgMa99
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Posted - 2013.05.09 15:35:00 -
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does it even really matter at this point guys since they effed the controls effed skills and equipment effed range at which you shoot people effed visibly seeing people. its all jacked. |
Phoenix Arakyd
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Posted - 2013.05.09 15:36:00 -
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Beld Errmon wrote:Phoenix Arakyd wrote:I took the time to do my research before I dumped my SP. I shouldnt have to do it again because its too hard for you kiddies.
Or, let them have a respec, but take half their SP away. You might be my corpie, but fk off and die, you'll be crying for a respec when they nerf whatever FOTM fit you followed the big boys into.
LOL, I dont do FOTM. I run logi, or used to until CCP jacked up the req's. I've used every role in this game in every build. CUrrent FOTM is caldari logi, but I run all minmatar mk.0 basic with SMG. Tell me again how that is FOTM. |
Winscar Shinobi
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Posted - 2013.05.09 15:36:00 -
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I think HTFU and Adapt or Die are more excuses for ccps **** ups than anything else..... |
Knight SoIaire
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Posted - 2013.05.09 15:36:00 -
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Phoenix Arakyd wrote:Knight SoIaire wrote:Phoenix Arakyd wrote:Macheria Perforati wrote:Nevermind that some vehicle skills didn't do what they claimed to do and the only way for players to find this out was for them to spend SP and find out the hard way (or have someone else do it first and give them some warning). CCP is fixing those skills, get over it. No they're not. They say "+5% to Vehicle PG per level", but what they actually do is give a "-5% CPU cost to PG modules per level" they're just going to change the description to suit that, leaving us Pilots left with SP in skills we never would've wanted. Coming from a guy who speaks so highly of research, you dont do a lot, do you? Oh, I'm sorry you couldnt build a super tank. HTFU and throw some PG mods on it.
I have 2 Beta PG Extension Modules, I still cant fit the decent tank I had in Chromosone, both my Low slots are taken up by PG Extension Modules, I should be able to fit a Damage Mod on there.
But of course, you infantry newbs wouldn't know the ins and outs of making a good tank. |
Phoenix Arakyd
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Posted - 2013.05.09 15:37:00 -
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K9 Wez wrote:Phoenix Arakyd wrote:ISuperstar wrote:I say no to your stupid thread and mental retardation. isnt that cute. Judging from this thread i have also concluded that your are in fact suffering from profound mental retardation.
What a substantial post. This adds so much to our 'great' community. |
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Phoenix Arakyd
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Posted - 2013.05.09 15:39:00 -
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Knight SoIaire wrote:Phoenix Arakyd wrote:Knight SoIaire wrote:Phoenix Arakyd wrote:Macheria Perforati wrote:Nevermind that some vehicle skills didn't do what they claimed to do and the only way for players to find this out was for them to spend SP and find out the hard way (or have someone else do it first and give them some warning). CCP is fixing those skills, get over it. No they're not. They say "+5% to Vehicle PG per level", but what they actually do is give a "-5% CPU cost to PG modules per level" they're just going to change the description to suit that, leaving us Pilots left with SP in skills we never would've wanted. Coming from a guy who speaks so highly of research, you dont do a lot, do you? Oh, I'm sorry you couldnt build a super tank. HTFU and throw some PG mods on it. I have 2 Beta PG Extension Modules, I still cant fit the decent tank I had in Chromosone, both my Low slots are taken up by PG Extension Modules, I should be able to fit a Damage Mod on there. But of course, you infantry newbs wouldn't know the ins and outs of making a good tank.
LOL. So you want to be able to tank the shield AND run damage mods.
Sorry, but I ran tanks during the E3 and Codex builds, I know what it takes to tank. You just want an unstoppable tank. Instead you should be asking CCP for balance. |
Heimdallr69
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Posted - 2013.05.09 15:40:00 -
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You havnt been able to make a legit super tank since closed beta early in closed beta...good times |
Kovak Therim
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Posted - 2013.05.09 15:44:00 -
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Tell that to players that use the heavy frames and were forced to spec into Amarr. They will need to do one more when all the racial suits hit the market imo. |
martinofski
Rebelles A Quebec Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.09 15:45:00 -
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Looking at how this thread just started, you might just want to let it die. Many change to come, who say your SMG and dropsuit wont be the next useless one and that you won't be saying I want a respec or I quit!
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Winscar Shinobi
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Posted - 2013.05.09 15:45:00 -
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So far besides: 1. I don't want to have to redo my points 2. I want people to live with their mistakes because it makes them easier to kill
I haven't seen any real reasons why to not do a respec. Especially considering ccp messed up some skills I don't see why not. |
K9 Wez
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.05.09 15:47:00 -
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Phoenix Arakyd wrote:K9 Wez wrote:Phoenix Arakyd wrote:ISuperstar wrote:I say no to your stupid thread and mental retardation. isnt that cute. Judging from this thread i have also concluded that your are in fact suffering from profound mental retardation. What a substantial post. This adds so much to our 'great' community.
Consider it public service, people need to be aware of your diagnosis so they may better be prepared on how to respond to you. |
Happy Violentime
OMFGZOMBIESRUN
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Posted - 2013.05.09 15:47:00 -
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Phoenix Arakyd wrote:I took the time to do my research before I dumped my SP. I shouldnt have to do it again because its too hard for you kiddies.
Or, let them have a respec, but take half their SP away.
lol - half your alliance want's there SP back GTFO! |
Phoenix Arakyd
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Posted - 2013.05.09 15:48:00 -
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Winscar Shinobi wrote:So far besides: 1. I don't want to have to redo my points 2. I want people to live with their mistakes because it makes them easier to kill
I haven't seen any real reasons why to not do a respec. Especially considering ccp messed up some skills I don't see why not.
LOL. 1. Yes, I did my research carefully. I like where my points are at. 2. You rushed into vehicles so you could ROFL stomp infantry like in previous builds, and got nerfed. Adapt...or die. |
Zombie Supreme
D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.09 15:49:00 -
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Phoenix Arakyd wrote:I took the time to do my research before I dumped my SP. I shouldnt have to do it again because its too hard for you kiddies.
Or, let them have a respec, but take half their SP away.
I planned out my skills carefully too, I downloaded the spreadsheet, opened it in Excel, and studied it for days. Then CCP (yesterday) decided that the description for "Vehicle Engineering" was not really what the skill was going to do. Instead of giving all vehicles a 5% PG boost per level, it will now do something worthless and stupid. Then today they changed the prerequisites for shield extenders on vehicles.
A respec is necessary not just because people that understand the new skill tree made mistakes, but because CCP changed the definitions for the skills days after the game came out.
If there are people that don't want to respec again, then let it be an optional respec. |
Phoenix Arakyd
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Posted - 2013.05.09 15:50:00 -
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Happy Violentime wrote:Phoenix Arakyd wrote:I took the time to do my research before I dumped my SP. I shouldnt have to do it again because its too hard for you kiddies.
Or, let them have a respec, but take half their SP away. lol - half your alliance want's there SP back GTFO!
Doubtful. |
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Heimdallr69
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Posted - 2013.05.09 15:51:00 -
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Phoenix Arakyd wrote:Winscar Shinobi wrote:So far besides: 1. I don't want to have to redo my points 2. I want people to live with their mistakes because it makes them easier to kill
I haven't seen any real reasons why to not do a respec. Especially considering ccp messed up some skills I don't see why not. LOL. 1. Yes, I did my research carefully. I like where my points are at. 2. You rushed into vehicles so you could ROFL stomp infantry like in previous builds, and got nerfed. Adapt...or die. Tanks got nerfed a long time ago now its time for the AV just saying.. |
Phoenix Arakyd
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Posted - 2013.05.09 15:51:00 -
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Zombie Supreme wrote:Phoenix Arakyd wrote:I took the time to do my research before I dumped my SP. I shouldnt have to do it again because its too hard for you kiddies.
Or, let them have a respec, but take half their SP away. I planned out my skills carefully too, I downloaded the spreadsheet, opened it in Excel, and studied it for days. Then CCP (yesterday) decided that the description for "Vehicle Engineering" was not really what the skill was going to do. Instead of giving all vehicles a 5% PG boost per level, it will now do something worthless and stupid. Then today they changed the prerequisites for shield extenders on vehicles. A respec is necessary not just because people that understand the new skill tree made mistakes, but because CCP changed the definitions for the skills days after the game came out.If there are people that don't want to respec again, then let it be an optional respec.
Why, so you can do whatever current flavor of the month you want?
CCP, why does light weapon reduce fitting need instead of giving me 50% extra damage per level? |
Winscar Shinobi
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Posted - 2013.05.09 15:52:00 -
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Lol I hate vehicles.
I just hate more when a company fucks up and then punishes the consumers for their mistake. |
S0LlD SNAKE
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Posted - 2013.05.09 15:52:00 -
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why?
you afraid your "advantage" wont last?
Adapt or Die
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Phoenix Arakyd
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Posted - 2013.05.09 15:53:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Phoenix Arakyd wrote:Winscar Shinobi wrote:So far besides: 1. I don't want to have to redo my points 2. I want people to live with their mistakes because it makes them easier to kill
I haven't seen any real reasons why to not do a respec. Especially considering ccp messed up some skills I don't see why not. LOL. 1. Yes, I did my research carefully. I like where my points are at. 2. You rushed into vehicles so you could ROFL stomp infantry like in previous builds, and got nerfed. Adapt...or die. Tanks got nerfed a long time ago now its time for the AV just saying..
No nerfs, we need only buffs. The nerfing in this game has gone too far, its what has created al of the imbalance. |
S0LlD SNAKE
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Posted - 2013.05.09 15:54:00 -
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Winscar Shinobi wrote:Lol I hate vehicles.
I just hate more when a company fucks up and then punishes the consumers for their mistake.
we will see if we get fkt on 14th , if we do i'll die not adapt
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Phoenix Arakyd
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Posted - 2013.05.09 15:55:00 -
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S0LlD SNAKE wrote:why?
you afraid your "advantage" wont last?
Adapt or Die
What advantage do I have over takes? LOL. |
Zombie Supreme
D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.09 15:56:00 -
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Phoenix Arakyd wrote:
LOL. So you want to be able to tank the shield AND run damage mods.
You have no idea what you are talking about. To say this PG Skill change nerfed tanks would be an understatement. NTM they already severely nerfed all the large turrets and doubled their price.
They can get rid of damage mods for all I care. I just want to run the shields and Nice guns. |
Phoenix Arakyd
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Posted - 2013.05.09 15:56:00 -
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Winscar Shinobi wrote:Lol I hate vehicles.
I just hate more when a company fucks up and then punishes the consumers for their mistake.
Oh, you mean like that time you losers convinced CCP not to refund merc packs? Or that time CCP said FO to everyone who purchased a MAG tribute BPO off the market which are now useless? Yea... |
S0LlD SNAKE
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Posted - 2013.05.09 15:59:00 -
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Phoenix Arakyd wrote:S0LlD SNAKE wrote:why?
you afraid your "advantage" wont last?
Adapt or Die
What advantage do I have over takes? LOL.
do you want to play all by yourself or only with aurum users?
because thats what will happen
dont think only about yourself you selfish prick
you need targets to shoot at
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jenza aranda
BetaMax. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.05.09 16:00:00 -
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To be clear, this isnt a second respec because people are complaning that they may have made a mistake, this is because, with feedback from many players, the CPM believes that a few of the skills learning multiplier and prerequisites need to be changed. For example, i believe that Specialist dropships shouldnt require level 5 on the racial skill. Or with the specialist dropsuits, considering the difference i believe the multiplier should be less as well as the prerequisite.
Because there will be some sort of change, thats why an optional respec is needed. |
Zombie Supreme
D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.09 16:00:00 -
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Phoenix Arakyd wrote:Zombie Supreme wrote: ... Then CCP (yesterday) decided that the description for "Vehicle Engineering" was not really what the skill was going to do. Instead of giving all vehicles a 5% PG boost per level, it will now do something worthless and stupid. Then today they changed the prerequisites for shield extenders on vehicles.
A respec is necessary not just because people that understand the new skill tree made mistakes, but because CCP changed the definitions for the skills days after the game came out.
If there are people that don't want to respec again, then let it be an optional respec.
Why, so you can do whatever current flavor of the month you want? CCP, why does light weapon reduce fitting need instead of giving me 50% extra damage per level?
You clearly only read the last line of what I wrote. I know reading is hard, just sound it out. |
Phoenix Arakyd
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Posted - 2013.05.09 16:01:00 -
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S0LlD SNAKE wrote:Phoenix Arakyd wrote:S0LlD SNAKE wrote:why?
you afraid your "advantage" wont last?
Adapt or Die
What advantage do I have over takes? LOL. do you want to play all by yourself or only with aurum users? because thats what will happen dont think only about yourself you selfish prick you need targets to shoot at
What are you going on about? Threatening to quit if CCP doesnt give in? Join the queue. |
Justin Tymes
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.09 16:02:00 -
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Say no to drugs OP. |
Phoenix Arakyd
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Posted - 2013.05.09 16:04:00 -
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jenza aranda wrote:To be clear, this isnt a second respec because people are complaning that they may have made a mistake, this is because, with feedback from many players, the CPM believes that a few of the skills learning multiplier and prerequisites need to be changed. For example, i believe that Specialist dropships shouldnt require level 5 on the racial skill. Or with the specialist dropsuits, considering the difference i believe the multiplier should be less as well as the prerequisite.
Because there will be some sort of change, thats why an optional respec is needed.
Refunding for certain req changes is fine. Respecing because a skill did not turn out the way you want is not. Or we'll get to the point that people will ask for a respec for everything. |
Phoenix Arakyd
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Posted - 2013.05.09 16:04:00 -
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Justin Tymes wrote:Say no to drugs OP.
Troll failed. |
KING SALASI
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Posted - 2013.05.09 16:04:00 -
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Winscar Shinobi wrote:Lol I hate vehicles.
I just hate more when a company fucks up and then punishes the consumers for their mistake.
Whats good winscar its me Bullyboutya. |
semperfi1999
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Posted - 2013.05.09 16:10:00 -
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Phoenix Arakyd.....sorry but in this case you are wrong.
If CCP incorrectly labeled certain skills such that ppl who wanted that bonus skilled into them....and then they correct the incorrectly labeled skill later....or if they had certain requirements to use an item but then change those requirements after ppl skilled into them then yes. CCP will need to do another respec. You just cant blame players for skilling into something that is supposed to give you additional PG and then correct the skill information to reflect the true bonus that it is supposed to give.
This would be like someone skilling into the scrambler rifle to use scramblers just to have CCP change the description and note that it should have been for scrambler pistol. Now suddenly you have a fully skilled item that you didnt want to use and the only reason you used your SP on it is because it said scrambler rifle before.
Another example...it would be like CCP changing the suit description that you chose and changed it to a different racial type you didnt want all because they "had it marked incorrectly". Yea due to these issues CCP is already going to be forced to do another respec on the 14th or this game will basically die from all the ppl who had a mill or more SP stolen from them by CCPs inability to correctly label skills. |
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