You didn't even need a squad of 4 to win a BF3 pub match, 1 good player would do it.

Hey don't be hasty. You probably would hate socom too. Thing is you can't solo here. I've played it all, And when you do try and solo (even with good intentions as in trying to carry team) you will go 0-11. YOU DON"T CARRY TEAMS IN TEAM FPS. SQUADS DO. in BF you can take out a 4 person squad solo. Not here. Not in mag. even less in socom.

its a dust game mode thats in every server you join.
you run around in groups of 6 and all shoot doobies at the same time...and you all go the whole game without dying

cant CCP implement some nice servers where sqauds are not allowed?

yea we're definately running out of things to nerf so the 6 man squads should be nerfed next

It has been said many times before, but this is a team based game. Just like other Team based game. What it is *not* is a Solo Shooter like COD or many others in the same vein. It seems to me your problem comes from not liking Team Based games.

While this should not matter so much to you, being you have a corp behind you, any new player who does not have a corp, can do many things to increase their survivability and their teamwork, even when not running with an organised corp squad.

1. Turn on Team Chat. You don't *have* to have a mic for this, but it helps. If you have no headset, you will still hear team chat through your speakers. This can be vital for co-ordination, and general battlefield awareness. (No bloody excuses about UVT now, even if it wasn't valid for team chat before)

2. Run with Team Members. Don't just rambo off on your own, run with team mates and support the Team.

3. (Outside of Battle) If you do not have a Corp, and do not know anyone in game, open that little magical window on the side called "Chat". Check out your Local chat. Talk in there. Meet people. Post LFS (Looking for Squad) and look for people asking for squad members. (Looking for x and Room for x, LFx and RFx, x being a number or role ofc.)

However, if a person is truly a stubborn mule and wants this to be a Solo Shooter no matter how much the opposite is true, nothing short of an LAV to the back of the head (figuratively ofc) is going to change them, and no, CCP should not have to change their game to support a few stubborn mules.

i understand that its a team based game..but at the end of the day the majority are gonna be going solo

"That Majority" don't though. Yeah I get games with random rambos, as we all do. But I have plenty of games, many times, with organised people (not in same corp, not even squadded before match) that go well, there is good teamwork, good communication, and just an overall good game for both sides. I have also run with many a new player, and helped them to learn the ropes. It is something I enjoy doing.

But, from my perspective of what I have seen anyway, The Majority come into this game understanding it is a team based game, even if they aren't running with a team to start with. It is only a few Stubborn Mules who insist this should be a Solo Shooter to appease their appetite, when DUST is damn near as far away from a Solo Shooter as you can get.

It is an MMOFPS. Massively Multiplayer Online First Person Shooter. Set in a consistent, single-shard universe, where your actions matter and finding friends is pretty much essential. This is what DUST is, there is no two ways about that. If people come into the game completely misunderstanding what it is about, well they can either learn (the old Adapt or Die adage) or they can be a bloody stubborn mule and get walked all over. I hate to use the old cliche, but "Welcome to New Eden".

Problem with this "no squads" thing is that it wouldn't resolve anything.

Players from same corporation or heck even just friends, join pubmatch the same time and if they dont get into same team, then tey will leave the match.
Once in the match at same side, you would just use corporation voice coms or player created channel to communicate. And you have just undone the whole reason why this "no squads" thing was created.
Or if just regular free for all, then 'squading up' becomes even easyer.

As long as there is way to coordinate your actions inside a battle with others there will be 'squads' roaming around, be it formalized or not.

thats aload of crap .when they could of just joined a server that allows them to sqaud

Yep, people won't go through giant hoops just to win a pub match.

This statement couldn't be more wrong. Until there's no sp gain for doing so, people will continue to farm pub matches. There are entire corps devoted to doing exactly this. Some are well known.

It will become even more of a problem if it's more difficult for uncoordinated teams (I.E. actual pub teams) to combat, without the option to squad up.

grouping/squadding is an option that's open to every player. In fact, it's insanely easy to get a corp invite.... just get in the top three as a member of an NPC corp. You'll get offers streaming in. Don't make it easier for certain corps to farm the n00blars simply because said n00blars are too dumb/stubborn to group up.

If CCP were to make all comms inactive on one of these servers, there'd be corps running to Skype to coordinate. There's simply nothing CCP would be able to do to combat this at this stage.

Once there's a few hundred games running at the same time, maybe something can be done then. Until then, this is an issue that isn't going anywhere. It's extremely easy to deploy into the same match. There simply aren't enough going on right now, concurrently.

This statement couldn't be more wrong. Until there's no sp gain for doing so, people will continue to farm pub matches. There are entire corps devoted to doing exactly this. Some are well known.

It will become even more of a problem if it's more difficult for uncoordinated teams (I.E. actual pub teams) to combat, without the option to squad up.

grouping/squadding is an option that's open to every player. In fact, it's insanely easy to get a corp invite.... just get in the top three as a member of an NPC corp. You'll get offers streaming in. Don't make it easier for certain corps to farm the n00blars simply because said n00blars are too dumb/stubborn to group up.

If CCP were to make all comms inactive on one of these servers, there'd be corps running to Skype to coordinate. There's simply nothing CCP would be able to do to combat this at this stage.

Once there's a few hundred games running at the same time, maybe something can be done then. Until then, this is an issue that isn't going anywhere. It's extremely easy to deploy into the same match. There simply aren't enough going on right now, concurrently.

If you are running solo then it's your fault. If even you are you should still be trying to squad hobo onto an existing squad when you get in the match. Get on the mic and tell the damn blueberries to squad up as well. Hell, teach them a thing or 2 and next time they won't be stupid enough to run alone without a reason.

Why aren't you squadding up with your corp? It's not like your still in a starter corp.

"grouping/squadding is an option that's open to every player" - You

Yes it is, there are always squads to join while waiting for the game to start. I do this all the time and have only been booted from a squad once, and that was because I told them to quit crying like babies (we were getting stomped and they were quite butthurt). Most of the time people are shocked you have a mic and welcome the help with obtaining orbitals. - Me

yea we're definately running out of things to nerf so the 6 man squads should be nerfed next

CCP decided to take a dump on me ever since Codex and make it so that my mic doesn't work, ever. There is no bubble or anything so no it isn't my mic (I wish I could hear someone). I have done the whole port forwarding thing and yes, my settings are correct and work 100% on other games. So that is why I play solo.