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Brush Master
HavoK Core
RISE of LEGION
433
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Posted - 2013.05.09 12:45:00 -
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Running skinweave logi, Injector and repair tool. When Switching between, weapon, injector and repair tool, I have found that is does not allows take the input and have to sometime do it 2-3 times before it actually switches. And yes I am holding R2 long enough and selecting the slot. Will post any additional testing info.
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CCP Hybrid
C C P
C C P Alliance
1
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Posted - 2013.05.13 09:50:00 -
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Thanks for your feedback. Any additional testing information will be much appreciated. |
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KalOfTheRathi
Talon Strike Force LTD
Orion Empire
447
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Posted - 2013.05.13 11:20:00 -
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Same is true for Sever Logi.
It is very difficult to actually select the item you want without having to try two or three times.
This may or may not be tied to trying to select anything with the command wheel as well. It is difficult to select the actual command desired and to select the actual target is hard as well. They have gotten dramatically worse since Uprising. |
Billi Gene
The Southern Legion
RISE of LEGION
142
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Posted - 2013.05.13 11:48:00 -
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amarr logi the same.
it seems to be that you need to leave the selection highlighted for much longer then we used to have to. About a second of highlighting the desired equipment slot is how i have been getting around this.
The annoying part is that if you don't give the system a LOT of time to see that you have something highlighted, it will jsut switch you back to your weapon.
Funny times shooting team mates in the face trying to rep them :P
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Zaria Min Deir
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
25
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Posted - 2013.05.13 16:19:00 -
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Billi Gene wrote:Funny times shooting team mates in the face trying to rep them :P
It will be particularly funny in battles with friendly fire enabled...
But yes, the equipment selection wheel is really sluggish and annoying to use (with controller, heard it's even worse with kb/m). You have to compensate by doing it very slowly (usually almost impossible to do while moving), which really not very ideal for battle situations. Was much better in Chromosome.
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Buster Friently
Rosen Association
420
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Posted - 2013.05.13 16:24:00 -
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Zaria Min Deir wrote:Billi Gene wrote:Funny times shooting team mates in the face trying to rep them :P It will be particularly funny in battles with friendly fire enabled... But yes, the equipment selection wheel is really sluggish and annoying to use (with controller, heard it's even worse with kb/m). You have to compensate by doing it very slowly (usually almost impossible to do while moving), which really not very ideal for battle situations. Was much better in Chromosome.
It also rocks, even without friendly fire, when you're using the MD  |
Eskimorris
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
1
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Posted - 2013.05.13 17:20:00 -
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I have also noticed this glitch when you are at zero ammo and the automatic reload begins on your primary weapons and you try to switch to secondary the automatic reload overpowers it and glitches |
LXicon
VENGEANCE FOR HIRE
93
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Posted - 2013.05.13 17:29:00 -
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minmatar logi as well.
i think the issue stems from the fact that if you let go of the right stick, your selected item deselects. when you let go of R2 you are left with whatever item you had before. it's usually your gun, but i've had the same issue trying to switch back from repair tool to my gun.
please keep the selection on the last thing you selected with the right stick even if you let go of the right stick and it moves back to the center. |
Abu Stij
Goonfeet
11
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Posted - 2013.05.13 18:08:00 -
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I've experienced massive delay on switching weapons on any of my dropsuits. This would include AR switching to Scrambler Pistol, as well as Swarm Launcher switching to Scram. Pistol. I also have had the same issue going AR to SMG. |
Shay Sevila
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2013.05.15 15:41:00 -
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Just adding to this issue. It's really difficult trying to select different items now because the radial menu doesn't stay where you move the right analog stick. Before it would stay locked on whatever you selected. Now as soon as you release the right stick, it defaults back to your main weapon. I've been having to hold the right stick in place and then release R2 in order to select something. The problem with this is that the camera will go jerking in whichever direction you happen to be pressing and then you have to center yourself again. It's a small thing but a major annoyance. |
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Abu Stij
Goonfeet
16
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Posted - 2013.05.15 16:46:00 -
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Shay Sevila wrote:Just adding to this issue. It's really difficult trying to select different items now because the radial menu doesn't stay where you move the right analog stick. Before it would stay locked on whatever you selected. Now as soon as you release the right stick, it defaults back to your main weapon. I've been having to hold the right stick in place and then release R2 in order to select something. The problem with this is that the camera will go jerking in whichever direction you happen to be pressing and then you have to center yourself again. It's a small thing but a major annoyance.
I experienced this myself and can attest to its annoyance. |
Zaria Min Deir
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
30
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Posted - 2013.05.15 17:01:00 -
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Shay Sevila wrote:Just adding to this issue. It's really difficult trying to select different items now because the radial menu doesn't stay where you move the right analog stick. Before it would stay locked on whatever you selected. Now as soon as you release the right stick, it defaults back to your main weapon. I've been having to hold the right stick in place and then release R2 in order to select something. The problem with this is that the camera will go jerking in whichever direction you happen to be pressing and then you have to center yourself again. It's a small thing but a major annoyance.
This. So annoying. And can really mess with you when you have to switch equipment while moving... |
Doshneil Antaro
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
53
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Posted - 2013.05.15 17:16:00 -
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Things of noticed about equipment usage since may 6:
1. often times equipment is selected, but does not pull out said equipment.
2. Wrong equipment is pulled out instead.
3. empty hands is on the rise again
4. uplinks and nanohives disapear instanly when put down.
5. nanite injectors rarely work.
6. repair tool is difficult to engage at any distance, best chance for a lock is very close to tgt.
7. the radial always sucked, but is worse now, it is less responsive in general
Radial wheel is to blame for 1, 3 and 7. Should have an option in the options to just scroll through the equipment with r2/mouse wheel. This would allow assault classes not to complain pulling out equipment instead of a sidearm in the heat of battle, but allows us one weapon logis a viable option to toggle through our equipment with ease. Doing just this would reduce and/or fix some of these issues, and also improve the flow of the game in general.
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J Woker
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.05.15 18:55:00 -
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Yep, scrolling through the equipment with the mouse scroll would be the best (today I had to try at least 3 times with a logi suit to select the proper equipment with kb/m) and for controller users a tap on the R2 could do the same and holding it could bring up the wheel. |
Terarrim
Valor Coalition
RISE of LEGION
23
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Posted - 2013.05.15 20:54:00 -
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I can confirm that switching is allot more slugish than it used to be and seems to get worse during combat situations. I never had this issue in chromazone. |
Bettie Boop 2100190003
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
12
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Posted - 2013.05.16 06:06:00 -
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I notice it most on my Gallente Logi suit.
When switching equipment once in a while I will gain access to the equipment on the first try but it generally takes at least 2. When I return to my weapon some times I will get neither the equipment or a weapon and no targeting sight. It comes up after using R2 to switch weapons, which I find odd considering the Gallente Logi suit has no alternate weapon and you cannot use R2 to switch to equipment. |
Ten Wolves
D3LTA FORC3
Orion Empire
11
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Posted - 2013.05.16 15:48:00 -
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Yeah I've got the same problem when trying to switch equipment. This is worse because I'm a Logistics. |
Byozuma Kegawa
The Tritan Industries
RISE of LEGION
28
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Posted - 2013.05.16 15:51:00 -
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The problem is that you now have to hold the analog stick at what you want before letting go of the shoulder button, letting go of the stick only after you've let go of the shoulder button. I know that sounds stupid, because it is. The previous build had the right setup for switching, I'm baffled as to why they changed it. |
Kaeralli Sturmovos
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
121
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Posted - 2013.05.16 15:53:00 -
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agreed both swaping equipment and squad orders have the same sluggish feel, in addition the squad orders will select random things as well. |
Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
League of Infamy
243
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Posted - 2013.05.16 16:01:00 -
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Same here, the middle slot seems to be the toughest one to "grab" |
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Bling Blaine
FrontLine-Coalition
66
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Posted - 2013.05.17 02:17:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Same here, the middle slot seems to be the toughest one to "grab"
I agree, with my min logi I am really fast with the r2 and snap down but for some reason the middle one is the toughest to hit with rapid succession.
Is it really that hard to create the "logi controls" option enabling the r2 for cycling?
Or fix the snap to function so it is fast and accurate. |
Wonko218
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
1
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Posted - 2013.05.17 02:22:00 -
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I'm having same issues, I have to hold r2 then very deliberatley select my equipment which usually results in my aiming at the ground when I let go of r2, used to be able to snap between equipment last build. |
Doshneil Antaro
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
57
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Posted - 2013.05.17 17:10:00 -
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Bling Blaine wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Same here, the middle slot seems to be the toughest one to "grab" I agree, with my min logi I am really fast with the r2 and snap down but for some reason the middle one is the toughest to hit with rapid succession. Is it really that hard to create the "logi controls" option enabling the r2 for cycling? Or fix the snap to function so it is fast and accurate.
This should be pretty easy to implement as I hear the build before I started had r2 scroll through equipment and weapons, but as you could see that angered assault style classes. The adding an option to reenable this doesnt seem like a stretch at all. |
waistr
Planetary Response Organization
0
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Posted - 2013.05.17 18:31:00 -
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me to middle slot is the worst |
THUNDERGROOVE
ZionTCD
Unclaimed.
40
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Posted - 2013.05.17 20:25:00 -
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This is also an issue with vehicle active modules and giving squad orders. |
Doshneil Antaro
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
57
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Posted - 2013.05.18 13:36:00 -
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Agreed, it is just flat out broken. |
Brush Master
HavoK Core
RISE of LEGION
467
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Posted - 2013.05.18 23:47:00 -
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CCP Hybrid wrote:Thanks for your feedback. Any additional testing information will be much appreciated.
Using 'Dren' Logi suit with 3 equipment slots. Injector, Repair Tool, Nano
Switching between equipment does not always register the action. I have run into scenarios where I can not switch to my nano hives after using my repair tool. I try switch back to weapon, to injector and then try nano. Sometimes it works, other times it will not. There seems to be an overall bug with switching between inputs.
I have also noticed that the is still a bug with logis with 3 equipment slots. Switching suits at a supply depot to the same suit with different equipment configuration can sometime result in 2 equipment slots disappearing. |
Helper Friendly
Planetary Response Organization
10
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Posted - 2013.05.19 16:06:00 -
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Tried throwing a grenade while moving lately? Same principal applies. There is serious lag between the time either L2 or R2 are pressed on the controller.
Scenario:
LAV approaching I am moving forward around a container i tap L2 to throw AV grenade nothing happens, try again (lav is closer) nothing happens, finally third time I try grenade goes out hits LAV as it hits me pushing me into container killing me.
Equipment:
1. Nanite doesn't need to be selected to be used <-- This is a great feature thank you.
2. Selecting equipment via the wheel is sluggish as stated.
3. Cycling through equipment with just the R2 button is slow as well.
Scenario:
I climb a ladder to the top of a building, tap R2 to change equipment to get my drop uplink out. Deploy drop uplink as enemy climbs ladder in front of me, I hold R2 to bring up selection wheel, then just as I select my weapon I die as the enemy has already climbed the ladder and shot me to pieces without me even getting one shot off!
This scenario works best because I had the drop on him climbing the ladder and if I was able to switch weapons properly 9/10 times I would have been shooting him before he cleared the ladder either resulting in me killing him or him jumping off to avoid the death by me. |
Brush Master
HavoK Core
RISE of LEGION
483
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Posted - 2013.05.27 01:15:00 -
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Even have the "fix" there are major problems. CCP, try running a Dren Logi with 3 equipment slots, injector, nanohive, repair tool in that order and play some rounds with a DS3 controller and watch as you try to switch between repair tool and the nanohive (middle slot), I usually have to try 3 times to get the input to even register, basically anything with the right-down input is really bugged. The inputs before Uprising were much better. |
J4yne C0bb
DUST University
Ivy League
25
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Posted - 2013.05.27 01:27:00 -
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Brush Master wrote:Even have the "fix" there are major problems. CCP, try running a Dren Logi with 3 equipment slots, injector, nanohive, repair tool in that order and play some rounds with a DS3 controller and watch as you try to switch between repair tool and the nanohive (middle slot), I usually have to try 3 times to get the input to even register, basically anything with the right-down input is really bugged. The inputs before Uprising were much better.
+1. Yeah, this is still a problem, huge lag issue here when switching between weapon and equipment.
Other issue I noticed: If you throw all your nanohives, the wheel still registers that you have one in stock. I recently spent 5 mins of a match trying to throw my last nanohive, and cursing CCP, when I finally figured out that I had already thrown them all out. I admit -- I am the dummy who forgot how many I had thrown. Sometimes you forget in the heat of battle. But still -- that stupid wheel needs to register that red X or whatever it is. |
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