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SoTa of PoP
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.05.08 22:05:00 -
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Quote: Mithridates VI IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback Likes received: 1,241 #14Posted: 2013.05.08 22:03 | Report Like Wow, I put as much time into working with this community as I can because I want to see the game succeed. I trawl through ancient posts in the Rookie Training Grounds looking for new players who didn't get answers to their questions and I respond or I hit them up in-game and squad with them to show them the ropes.
I run every playstyle I can to get a feel for what's working and what isn't so I can contribute from a position of knowledge. I blew my KDR to hell testing damage on weapons to make spreadsheets to share.
While I'm at work, I lurk in IRC and bring information from there to the forums to inform people who can't follow the chat all the time, waiting for dev to drop some info.
Frankly, it's hurtful and insulting when all of that work is dismissed on the basis of a tag below my name which a pointless and rationally unstable justification for a bias.
Look past the tag and into the heart. |
Logi Bro
Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN.
1423
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Posted - 2013.05.08 22:05:00 -
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No. |
Freshticles
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
83
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Posted - 2013.05.08 22:08:00 -
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It's on now. |
Nstomper
The Sangheli
371
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Posted - 2013.05.08 22:09:00 -
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In before lock And its hard to look past a tag when most of your corp are trolls , qqers , etc the only imp that seems to get respect is kain spero |
steadyhand amarr
NW WARLORDS
492
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Posted - 2013.05.08 22:10:00 -
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^^ this is what i like to see just annoyed some of other topics got locked right when its getting to point of problem^^ |
Mithridates VI
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
1241
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Posted - 2013.05.08 22:14:00 -
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Nstomper wrote:In before lock And its hard to look past a tag when most of your corp are trolls , qqers , etc the only imp that seems to get respect is kain spero
Most of the forum community are trolls and QQers. Your bias towards the Imperfects is based on a primitive perception of this community's status hierarchy and a need to identify, isolate and defend yourself against any group you don't personally identify with. |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon Plus
246
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Posted - 2013.05.08 22:14:00 -
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Nstomper wrote:In before lock And its hard to look past a tag when most of your corp are trolls , qqers , etc the only imp that seems to get respect is kain spero Kain actually deserves respect. The idiot forum trolls don't. |
Logi Bro
Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN.
1423
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Posted - 2013.05.08 22:23:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:Nstomper wrote:In before lock And its hard to look past a tag when most of your corp are trolls , qqers , etc the only imp that seems to get respect is kain spero Most of the forum community are trolls and QQers. Your bias towards the Imperfects is based on a primitive perception of this community's status hierarchy and a need to identify, isolate and defend yourself against any group you don't personally identify with.
I think Imps are too quick to defend themselves in this area. Yes, most people are trolls. But most people ARE NOT assholes. See the difference? Yes, there are Imps that are not assholes; Howdidthattaste, Kane Spero, you, and many more are fine.
But the people that you consider to be 'leet' are generally the rejects of society. They spend their entire time on the game and are consequently good at the game. They are also assholes that measure their life through their gaming skill and brag about how great they are on these forums. The Imps chose to let these people in so that they could have the best stats. You can either have good social image or have these degenerates in your corp, can't hate on people for pointing out that these people make your entire corp look like pricks with their offensive and hateful comments.
/iamdoneherenow |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
201
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Posted - 2013.05.08 22:24:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote: Most of the forum community are trolls and QQers. Your bias towards the Imperfects is based on a primitive perception of this community's status hierarchy and a need to identify, isolate and defend yourself against any group you don't personally identify with.
LOL @ amateur psychology hour! |
Phoenix Arakyd
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
41
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Posted - 2013.05.08 22:25:00 -
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not hard to identify those jealous of IMPS, they show u p to post in every thread about us. Maybe if you spent more time playing than forum warrioring you could get good. |
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Forlorn Destrier
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
966
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Posted - 2013.05.08 22:26:00 -
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SoTa of PoP wrote:Quote: Mithridates VI IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback Likes received: 1,241 #14Posted: 2013.05.08 22:03 | Report Like Wow, I put as much time into working with this community as I can because I want to see the game succeed. I trawl through ancient posts in the Rookie Training Grounds looking for new players who didn't get answers to their questions and I respond or I hit them up in-game and squad with them to show them the ropes.
I run every playstyle I can to get a feel for what's working and what isn't so I can contribute from a position of knowledge. I blew my KDR to hell testing damage on weapons to make spreadsheets to share.
While I'm at work, I lurk in IRC and bring information from there to the forums to inform people who can't follow the chat all the time, waiting for dev to drop some info.
Frankly, it's hurtful and insulting when all of that work is dismissed on the basis of a tag below my name which a pointless and rationally unstable justification for a bias.
Look past the tag and into the heart.
His corp's reputation is founded on how they have treated others; by associating with them he assumes that reputation. Fact of life, in the real world and online. Accept it for what it is, change it (never heard of him so not sure how much his "good deeds" are seen), or associate with someone who has a better image. Those are the choices. |
Mithridates VI
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
1244
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Posted - 2013.05.08 22:31:00 -
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You still haven't described any behaviours which are not shared among the other corps.
Unless you were using a general "you", you also put words in my mouth and then used them to fuel your argument.
...and I am blaming people who attribute the qualities of a part to the whole because it's logically fallacious to do so, just as I would be in error to assume that everyone in EoN. was guilty of this error, or to assume that because GATT accepted IM-JUST TO-PRO after he stole from TSOLE, that everyone in GATT is a thief.
Crash Monster wrote:LOL @ amateur psychology hour! Monkeypolitik is not a complicated topic, even if I had not put any time into studying it. |
Selinate deux
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
55
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Posted - 2013.05.08 22:36:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:Nstomper wrote:In before lock And its hard to look past a tag when most of your corp are trolls , qqers , etc the only imp that seems to get respect is kain spero Most of the forum community are trolls and QQers. Your bias towards the Imperfects is based on a primitive perception of this community's status hierarchy and a need to identify, isolate and defend yourself against any group you don't personally identify with.
No, it's based on reading Zitro's shitposting along with other Imperfects who sit there and brag about how great they are and how their opinions are the only one who matters.
Fix your own ranks if you want to be taken more seriously. |
Mithridates VI
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
1244
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Posted - 2013.05.08 22:37:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:His corp's reputation is founded on how they have treated others No, it isn't. No IMP can make a thread with benevolent intent without insane troll logic finding personal gain in the suggestion.
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SoTa of PoP
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
64
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Posted - 2013.05.08 22:37:00 -
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Selinate deux wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:Nstomper wrote:In before lock And its hard to look past a tag when most of your corp are trolls , qqers , etc the only imp that seems to get respect is kain spero Most of the forum community are trolls and QQers. Your bias towards the Imperfects is based on a primitive perception of this community's status hierarchy and a need to identify, isolate and defend yourself against any group you don't personally identify with. No, it's based on reading Zitro's shitposting along with other Imperfects who sit there and brag about how great they are and how their opinions are the only one who matters. Fix your own ranks if you want to be taken more seriously. Prove Zitro and the others wrong first? |
Mithridates VI
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
1247
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Posted - 2013.05.08 22:39:00 -
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Selinate deux wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:Nstomper wrote:In before lock And its hard to look past a tag when most of your corp are trolls , qqers , etc the only imp that seems to get respect is kain spero Most of the forum community are trolls and QQers. Your bias towards the Imperfects is based on a primitive perception of this community's status hierarchy and a need to identify, isolate and defend yourself against any group you don't personally identify with. No, it's based on reading Zitro's shitposting along with other Imperfects who sit there and brag about how great they are and how their opinions are the only one who matters. Fix your own ranks if you want to be taken more seriously. Have you seen the other corporations in this game? You (not specifically) seem to be applying a different standard to IMP posts than to everyone else's.
Poster A says "BAWW ARs" and people respond with "Poster A is QQing."
Poster B says the same with an IMP tag and people say "THIS IS WHY NOBODY LIKES YOUR CORP." EDIT: And then goes on to use that to strengthen their belief in this, where the same would not be applied to Poster A's corporation. |
SoTa of PoP
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
66
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Posted - 2013.05.08 22:39:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:SoTa of PoP wrote:Quote: Mithridates VI IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback Likes received: 1,241 #14Posted: 2013.05.08 22:03 | Report Like Wow, I put as much time into working with this community as I can because I want to see the game succeed. I trawl through ancient posts in the Rookie Training Grounds looking for new players who didn't get answers to their questions and I respond or I hit them up in-game and squad with them to show them the ropes.
I run every playstyle I can to get a feel for what's working and what isn't so I can contribute from a position of knowledge. I blew my KDR to hell testing damage on weapons to make spreadsheets to share.
While I'm at work, I lurk in IRC and bring information from there to the forums to inform people who can't follow the chat all the time, waiting for dev to drop some info.
Frankly, it's hurtful and insulting when all of that work is dismissed on the basis of a tag below my name which a pointless and rationally unstable justification for a bias.
Look past the tag and into the heart. His corp's reputation is founded on how they have treated others; by associating with them he assumes that reputation. Fact of life, in the real world and online. Accept it for what it is, change it (never heard of him so not sure how much his "good deeds" are seen), or associate with someone who has a better image. Those are the choices. I guess this means I can start generalizing all ZTCD members as poor skilled tryhards who have to call people out on personal morales because they can't win in game?
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Selinate deux
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
55
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Posted - 2013.05.08 22:40:00 -
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SoTa of PoP wrote:Selinate deux wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:Nstomper wrote:In before lock And its hard to look past a tag when most of your corp are trolls , qqers , etc the only imp that seems to get respect is kain spero Most of the forum community are trolls and QQers. Your bias towards the Imperfects is based on a primitive perception of this community's status hierarchy and a need to identify, isolate and defend yourself against any group you don't personally identify with. No, it's based on reading Zitro's shitposting along with other Imperfects who sit there and brag about how great they are and how their opinions are the only one who matters. Fix your own ranks if you want to be taken more seriously. Prove Zitro and the others wrong first?
Prove that you "elite players" don't have a more important opinion than everyone else in the game? Or prove that the whining is just whining?
There are a few bad things about this build, but you idiots keep ranting like 5 year olds who are yelling at their teacher to only listen to them because they made the prettiest finger painting to the point where it's obnoxious. Add on to that that this build, while not perfectly balanced, is nowhere near as off base as you all make it to be, which just makes it more difficult to take any of you seriously.
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Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1482
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Posted - 2013.05.08 22:41:00 -
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Selinate deux wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:Nstomper wrote:In before lock And its hard to look past a tag when most of your corp are trolls , qqers , etc the only imp that seems to get respect is kain spero Most of the forum community are trolls and QQers. Your bias towards the Imperfects is based on a primitive perception of this community's status hierarchy and a need to identify, isolate and defend yourself against any group you don't personally identify with. No, it's based on reading Zitro's shitposting along with other Imperfects who sit there and brag about how great they are and how their opinions are the only ones that matter. Fix your own ranks if you want to be taken more seriously.
Problem is you take them too seriously
I find myself biting at their troll bait, but that's the fun I get here. I don't hate them, or doubt their skill cuz of their trolling. I just get my lulz, as they do, and move on.
Don't like their trolls, then don't reply. The fact that you hate their trolls but reply to them anyway shows that they were successful and got you foaming at the mouth. |
Mithridates VI
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
1247
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Posted - 2013.05.08 22:42:00 -
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Selinate deux wrote:There are a few bad things about this build, but you idiots keep ranting Only IMPs are doing this? Really? IMPs single-handedly spammed up the forums with QQ? |
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Selinate deux
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
55
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Posted - 2013.05.08 22:42:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:Selinate deux wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:Nstomper wrote:In before lock And its hard to look past a tag when most of your corp are trolls , qqers , etc the only imp that seems to get respect is kain spero Most of the forum community are trolls and QQers. Your bias towards the Imperfects is based on a primitive perception of this community's status hierarchy and a need to identify, isolate and defend yourself against any group you don't personally identify with. No, it's based on reading Zitro's shitposting along with other Imperfects who sit there and brag about how great they are and how their opinions are the only one who matters. Fix your own ranks if you want to be taken more seriously. Have you seen the other corporations in this game? You (not specifically) seem to be applying a different standard to IMP posts than to everyone else's. Poster A says "BAWW ARs" and people respond with "Poster A is QQing." Poster B says the same with an IMP tag and people say "THIS IS WHY NOBODY LIKES YOUR CORP." EDIT: And then goes on to use that to strengthen their belief in this, where the same would not be applied to Poster A's corporation.
Well after 50 posts from zitro and other "top players" about the same thing over and over again, all getting bumped to the top of the forums constantly, all while (what was already posted by me earlier, I have no desire to repeat it), what the hell do you expect. |
Selinate deux
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
55
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Posted - 2013.05.08 22:43:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:Selinate deux wrote:There are a few bad things about this build, but you idiots keep ranting Only IMPs are doing this? Really? IMPs single-handedly spammed up the forums with QQ?
You're not reading what I'm posting. Try again. |
Selinate deux
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
55
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Posted - 2013.05.08 22:44:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Selinate deux wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:Nstomper wrote:In before lock And its hard to look past a tag when most of your corp are trolls , qqers , etc the only imp that seems to get respect is kain spero Most of the forum community are trolls and QQers. Your bias towards the Imperfects is based on a primitive perception of this community's status hierarchy and a need to identify, isolate and defend yourself against any group you don't personally identify with. No, it's based on reading Zitro's shitposting along with other Imperfects who sit there and brag about how great they are and how their opinions are the only ones that matter. Fix your own ranks if you want to be taken more seriously. Problem is you take them too seriously I find myself biting at their troll bait, but that's the fun I get here. I don't hate them, or doubt their skill cuz of their trolling. I just get my lulz, as they do, and move on. Don't like their trolls, then don't reply. The fact that you hate their trolls but reply to them anyway shows that they were successful and got you foaming at the mouth.
...This has absolutely no basis in reality and is not descriptive of my mindset at all. |
SoTa of PoP
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
66
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Posted - 2013.05.08 22:44:00 -
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Selinate deux wrote:SoTa of PoP wrote:Selinate deux wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:Nstomper wrote:In before lock And its hard to look past a tag when most of your corp are trolls , qqers , etc the only imp that seems to get respect is kain spero Most of the forum community are trolls and QQers. Your bias towards the Imperfects is based on a primitive perception of this community's status hierarchy and a need to identify, isolate and defend yourself against any group you don't personally identify with. No, it's based on reading Zitro's shitposting along with other Imperfects who sit there and brag about how great they are and how their opinions are the only one who matters. Fix your own ranks if you want to be taken more seriously. Prove Zitro and the others wrong first? Prove that you "elite players" don't have a more important opinion than everyone else in the game? Or prove that the whining is just whining? There are a few bad things about this build, but you idiots keep ranting like 5 year olds who are yelling at their teacher to only listen to them because they made the prettiest finger painting to the point where it's obnoxious. Add on to that that this build, while not perfectly balanced, is nowhere near as off base as you all make it to be, which just makes it more difficult to take any of you seriously. Really? Rather then listen to someone who obviously knows what they're doing you're going to cry that the format they use to express themselves isn't to your liking?
We have a term for that in reality - it's called Emo. |
Mithridates VI
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
1247
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Posted - 2013.05.08 22:45:00 -
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Selinate deux wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:Selinate deux wrote:There are a few bad things about this build, but you idiots keep ranting Only IMPs are doing this? Really? IMPs single-handedly spammed up the forums with QQ? You're not reading what I'm posting. Try again. Please restate what that post was supposed to communicate. Because it seems to me like https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/composition-division |
Selinate deux
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
55
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Posted - 2013.05.08 22:47:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:Selinate deux wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:Selinate deux wrote:There are a few bad things about this build, but you idiots keep ranting Only IMPs are doing this? Really? IMPs single-handedly spammed up the forums with QQ? You're not reading what I'm posting. Try again. Please restate what that post was supposed to communicate. Because it seems to me like https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/composition-division
No.
If your reading comprehension is that poor then there's no reason to continue in this thread. |
General Tiberius1
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
602
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Posted - 2013.05.08 22:47:00 -
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SoTa of PoP wrote:Quote: Mithridates VI IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback Likes received: 1,241 #14Posted: 2013.05.08 22:03 | Report Like Wow, I put as much time into working with this community as I can because I want to see the game succeed. I trawl through ancient posts in the Rookie Training Grounds looking for new players who didn't get answers to their questions and I respond or I hit them up in-game and squad with them to show them the ropes.
I run every playstyle I can to get a feel for what's working and what isn't so I can contribute from a position of knowledge. I blew my KDR to hell testing damage on weapons to make spreadsheets to share.
While I'm at work, I lurk in IRC and bring information from there to the forums to inform people who can't follow the chat all the time, waiting for dev to drop some info.
Frankly, it's hurtful and insulting when all of that work is dismissed on the basis of a tag below my name which a pointless and rationally unstable justification for a bias.
Look past the tag and into the heart.
still see a troll |
Mithridates VI
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
1249
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Posted - 2013.05.08 22:49:00 -
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Selinate deux wrote:SoTa of PoP wrote:Prove Zitro and the others wrong first? Prove that you "elite players" don't have a more important opinion than everyone else in the game? Or prove that the whining is just whining? There are a few bad things about this build, but you idiots keep ranting like 5 year olds who are yelling at their teacher to only listen to them because they made the prettiest finger painting to the point where it's obnoxious. Add on to that that this build, while not perfectly balanced, is nowhere near as off base as you all make it to be, which just makes it more difficult to take any of you seriously.
>Prove that you "elite players" don't have a more important opinion than everyone else in the game?
Unless Zitro's post was solely composed of "I have a more important opinion than everyone else in in the game", this is not what SoTa said and it's disingenuous to respond as if it was.
>Or prove that the whining is just whining?
This is a value judgment you are making without any support. Is every IMP post whining?
>There are a few bad things about this build, but you idiots keep ranting like 5 year olds who are yelling at their teacher to only listen to them because they made the prettiest finger painting to the point where it's obnoxious.
This is what I responded to already, "You idiots are doing X" certainly sounds as if you're accusing all of the idiots of doing X.
>Add on to that that this build, while not perfectly balanced, is nowhere near as off base as you all make it to be, which just makes it more difficult to take any of you seriously.
That's your opinion. You're free to debate your reasons for this belief but I would appreciate your not resorting to ad-hominem to do so. |
Phoenix Arakyd
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
41
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Posted - 2013.05.08 22:49:00 -
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Selinate deux wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:Selinate deux wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:Nstomper wrote:In before lock And its hard to look past a tag when most of your corp are trolls , qqers , etc the only imp that seems to get respect is kain spero Most of the forum community are trolls and QQers. Your bias towards the Imperfects is based on a primitive perception of this community's status hierarchy and a need to identify, isolate and defend yourself against any group you don't personally identify with. No, it's based on reading Zitro's shitposting along with other Imperfects who sit there and brag about how great they are and how their opinions are the only one who matters. Fix your own ranks if you want to be taken more seriously. Have you seen the other corporations in this game? You (not specifically) seem to be applying a different standard to IMP posts than to everyone else's. Poster A says "BAWW ARs" and people respond with "Poster A is QQing." Poster B says the same with an IMP tag and people say "THIS IS WHY NOBODY LIKES YOUR CORP." EDIT: And then goes on to use that to strengthen their belief in this, where the same would not be applied to Poster A's corporation. Well after 50 posts from zitro and other "top players" about the same thing over and over again, all getting bumped to the top of the forums constantly, all while (what was already posted by me earlier, I have no desire to repeat it), what the hell do you expect.
Perhaps its because of all people, IMPS in particular want (or wanted) this game to succede. Thats why you see that passion there for getting this hot mess turned around. |
SoTa of PoP
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
69
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Posted - 2013.05.08 22:50:00 -
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General Tiberius1 wrote:SoTa of PoP wrote:Quote: Mithridates VI IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback Likes received: 1,241 #14Posted: 2013.05.08 22:03 | Report Like Wow, I put as much time into working with this community as I can because I want to see the game succeed. I trawl through ancient posts in the Rookie Training Grounds looking for new players who didn't get answers to their questions and I respond or I hit them up in-game and squad with them to show them the ropes.
I run every playstyle I can to get a feel for what's working and what isn't so I can contribute from a position of knowledge. I blew my KDR to hell testing damage on weapons to make spreadsheets to share.
While I'm at work, I lurk in IRC and bring information from there to the forums to inform people who can't follow the chat all the time, waiting for dev to drop some info.
Frankly, it's hurtful and insulting when all of that work is dismissed on the basis of a tag below my name which a pointless and rationally unstable justification for a bias.
Look past the tag and into the heart. still see a troll
I can't speak for the other imps - but I - for one - am a troll. One who doesn't care what the community thinks and has always done things his way. |
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