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SoTa of PoP
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Posted - 2013.05.08 22:05:00 -
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Quote: Mithridates VI IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback Likes received: 1,241 #14Posted: 2013.05.08 22:03 | Report Like Wow, I put as much time into working with this community as I can because I want to see the game succeed. I trawl through ancient posts in the Rookie Training Grounds looking for new players who didn't get answers to their questions and I respond or I hit them up in-game and squad with them to show them the ropes.
I run every playstyle I can to get a feel for what's working and what isn't so I can contribute from a position of knowledge. I blew my KDR to hell testing damage on weapons to make spreadsheets to share.
While I'm at work, I lurk in IRC and bring information from there to the forums to inform people who can't follow the chat all the time, waiting for dev to drop some info.
Frankly, it's hurtful and insulting when all of that work is dismissed on the basis of a tag below my name which a pointless and rationally unstable justification for a bias.
Look past the tag and into the heart. |
SoTa of PoP
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Posted - 2013.05.08 22:37:00 -
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Selinate deux wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:Nstomper wrote:In before lock And its hard to look past a tag when most of your corp are trolls , qqers , etc the only imp that seems to get respect is kain spero Most of the forum community are trolls and QQers. Your bias towards the Imperfects is based on a primitive perception of this community's status hierarchy and a need to identify, isolate and defend yourself against any group you don't personally identify with. No, it's based on reading Zitro's shitposting along with other Imperfects who sit there and brag about how great they are and how their opinions are the only one who matters. Fix your own ranks if you want to be taken more seriously. Prove Zitro and the others wrong first? |
SoTa of PoP
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Posted - 2013.05.08 22:39:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:SoTa of PoP wrote:Quote: Mithridates VI IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback Likes received: 1,241 #14Posted: 2013.05.08 22:03 | Report Like Wow, I put as much time into working with this community as I can because I want to see the game succeed. I trawl through ancient posts in the Rookie Training Grounds looking for new players who didn't get answers to their questions and I respond or I hit them up in-game and squad with them to show them the ropes.
I run every playstyle I can to get a feel for what's working and what isn't so I can contribute from a position of knowledge. I blew my KDR to hell testing damage on weapons to make spreadsheets to share.
While I'm at work, I lurk in IRC and bring information from there to the forums to inform people who can't follow the chat all the time, waiting for dev to drop some info.
Frankly, it's hurtful and insulting when all of that work is dismissed on the basis of a tag below my name which a pointless and rationally unstable justification for a bias.
Look past the tag and into the heart. His corp's reputation is founded on how they have treated others; by associating with them he assumes that reputation. Fact of life, in the real world and online. Accept it for what it is, change it (never heard of him so not sure how much his "good deeds" are seen), or associate with someone who has a better image. Those are the choices. I guess this means I can start generalizing all ZTCD members as poor skilled tryhards who have to call people out on personal morales because they can't win in game?
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SoTa of PoP
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Posted - 2013.05.08 22:44:00 -
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Selinate deux wrote:SoTa of PoP wrote:Selinate deux wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:Nstomper wrote:In before lock And its hard to look past a tag when most of your corp are trolls , qqers , etc the only imp that seems to get respect is kain spero Most of the forum community are trolls and QQers. Your bias towards the Imperfects is based on a primitive perception of this community's status hierarchy and a need to identify, isolate and defend yourself against any group you don't personally identify with. No, it's based on reading Zitro's shitposting along with other Imperfects who sit there and brag about how great they are and how their opinions are the only one who matters. Fix your own ranks if you want to be taken more seriously. Prove Zitro and the others wrong first? Prove that you "elite players" don't have a more important opinion than everyone else in the game? Or prove that the whining is just whining? There are a few bad things about this build, but you idiots keep ranting like 5 year olds who are yelling at their teacher to only listen to them because they made the prettiest finger painting to the point where it's obnoxious. Add on to that that this build, while not perfectly balanced, is nowhere near as off base as you all make it to be, which just makes it more difficult to take any of you seriously. Really? Rather then listen to someone who obviously knows what they're doing you're going to cry that the format they use to express themselves isn't to your liking?
We have a term for that in reality - it's called Emo. |
SoTa of PoP
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Posted - 2013.05.08 22:50:00 -
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General Tiberius1 wrote:SoTa of PoP wrote:Quote: Mithridates VI IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback Likes received: 1,241 #14Posted: 2013.05.08 22:03 | Report Like Wow, I put as much time into working with this community as I can because I want to see the game succeed. I trawl through ancient posts in the Rookie Training Grounds looking for new players who didn't get answers to their questions and I respond or I hit them up in-game and squad with them to show them the ropes.
I run every playstyle I can to get a feel for what's working and what isn't so I can contribute from a position of knowledge. I blew my KDR to hell testing damage on weapons to make spreadsheets to share.
While I'm at work, I lurk in IRC and bring information from there to the forums to inform people who can't follow the chat all the time, waiting for dev to drop some info.
Frankly, it's hurtful and insulting when all of that work is dismissed on the basis of a tag below my name which a pointless and rationally unstable justification for a bias.
Look past the tag and into the heart. still see a troll
I can't speak for the other imps - but I - for one - am a troll. One who doesn't care what the community thinks and has always done things his way. |
SoTa of PoP
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Posted - 2013.05.08 23:01:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:Take for example Sota Pop, who just made a wild swing at Zion because he was so hurt about one comment another guy made. Maybe if he defied the stereotype (and all the other Imps with this problem) then it would fade. He makes his corp look like pricks with his comment, and it would do him well to stop if he really cared about his corp's PR.
Not sure where I put words into your mouth, I stated that you were right about most people being trolls, then didn't reference your words again. Let me get this straight. If I use ZTCD's own logic against them... I must be like every other imps? Did you even read what was going on? A wild swing? Sure. But it doesn't show my statement to be any less true. ZTCD really does use personal attacks. If Forlorn wants to generalize us - we can do the same to them.
It seems Mith was right - tag a lone made that matter an "Imp did it" thing. |
SoTa of PoP
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Posted - 2013.05.08 23:15:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:
His corp's reputation is founded on how they have treated others; by associating with them he assumes that reputation. Fact of life, in the real world and online. Accept it for what it is, change it (never heard of him so not sure how much his "good deeds" are seen), or associate with someone who has a better image. Those are the choices.
You're right - this isn't filled with hate. It's filled with contempt. My bad?
And learn to read Logi - I know you can. I only did to him what he was doing to us in a harsher way. |
SoTa of PoP
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Posted - 2013.05.08 23:30:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:SoTa of PoP wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:
His corp's reputation is founded on how they have treated others; by associating with them he assumes that reputation. Fact of life, in the real world and online. Accept it for what it is, change it (never heard of him so not sure how much his "good deeds" are seen), or associate with someone who has a better image. Those are the choices.
You're right - this isn't filled with hate. It's filled with contempt. My bad? It's filled with the truth. I guess the truth is contemptible. People associated to you treat people badly, and the populous' opinion of those people will be associated with you, too. You will notice the "change it" part of his comment, so he believes you can be viewed differently if you ("you" meaning your entire corp) make an effort to change it. I concede. I admit I was biased to his post and was lookin' to make a jab at ZTCD. But it's a personal reason and not an Imp mentality.
No Imp has EVER pushed me to troll anyone FYI. And - in fact - has warned me that some of the people I target do not deserve what I offer to give.
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SoTa of PoP
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Posted - 2013.05.08 23:32:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:Polish Hammer wrote:SoTa, I have to hand it to you, you are a masterful troll if there ever was one.
This entire thread. Using another person to cause a raucous eruption of nonsense.
*claps* I feel so used. You know you love it.
Soon as I saw your post in the other thread it occurred to me the other imp threads were locked ;)
Since everyone seemed bored of anti-imp, I thought I'd hit this a different angle. |
SoTa of PoP
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Posted - 2013.05.08 23:39:00 -
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Nstomper wrote:anywho i have come to the conclusion that im done messing with the imps got my own corp to think about , but i will always be an anti complainer type guy An anti complainer on a gaming forum? Are you sure you're in the right place? If you just want to QQ at QQ you can use facebook. |
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SoTa of PoP
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Posted - 2013.05.08 23:43:00 -
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Nstomper wrote:SoTa of PoP wrote:Nstomper wrote:anywho i have come to the conclusion that im done messing with the imps got my own corp to think about , but i will always be an anti complainer type guy An anti complainer on a gaming forum? Are you sure you're in the right place? If you just want to QQ at QQ you can use facebook. yeah im sure i bash on every complaining thread anyway done wit this thread Nstomp I think we define 'bash' differently.... |
SoTa of PoP
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Posted - 2013.05.09 00:00:00 -
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Let's say for example... an Imp makes a thread saying not all Imps are the same. How would that thread turn out?
owait... sorry, Mith - it matters not what you do, you're an Imp and therefor scum - is the message we clearly got here.
Gotta love this community <3 |
SoTa of PoP
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Posted - 2013.05.09 00:25:00 -
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Zero - You're right. It was given to us because 3-4 people are too vocal and the rest didn't care to shut them up because of the Imps policy to freedom of speech. They're adults and can take care of themselves, they don't need us holding there hands post by post like other corps want to do for there members.
Cash - Am I too assume a Dios Ex is calling someone else out for there corp? I'll be happy to do to you what I did to ZTCD and point out you're in a corp that can barely keep positive in pubs. Do you enjoy knowing that your fellow mates - who might of left by now - earned you guys the title of scrubs of dust514? Not fair you get labeled for being bad because a few of your mates can't stop running into HMGs, is it? Oh - but I doubt you care - which would put you in the same exact boat we're in as imps. All of us labelled for a few.
If you guys wanted to just blast me - protoman - regnum - or any of the true trolls of Imps we'd laugh it off. But there are serious players amoung us who have put blood sweat and tears for this community that get written off for there tag. Read a post for what it is - if you respond and appear stupid and blind - expect backlash as you would on any forum filled with passionate people. |
SoTa of PoP
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Posted - 2013.05.09 00:37:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:CASHERN X2 wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:Selinate deux wrote:There are a few bad things about this build, but you idiots keep ranting Only IMPs are doing this? Really? IMPs single-handedly spammed up the forums with QQ? Mith, your trying to defend your new Corp, that's respectable but seriously you knew when you signed up that you were joining a bunch of KDR obsessed, E-thugging, afk farming bunch of douchebags. I'm not suddenly leaping into the fray to defend the Imperfects since joining them, I've always made it quite clear that the forum community's response to the tag was fairly transparently biased in my opinion. Given the inclination to view the group as only capable of trolling, QQing and negativity it's no wonder that you maintain this worldview, however my opinion is based on joining the group for myself so I am not speaking from a position of ignorance and can actually assess the qualities of each of the members by interacting with them as human beings, rather than making sweeping judgments based on popular opinion and the negative filter that popular opinion places over future interactions. Since Mith became an Imp I can honestly say things have lightened up and have been a lot more fun. He was a hell of a pick up. I'd hate to see him miss-labeled because you guys are blinded by how awesome the tag is. |
SoTa of PoP
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Posted - 2013.05.09 00:41:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:SoTa of PoP wrote:Logi Bro wrote:SoTa of PoP wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:
His corp's reputation is founded on how they have treated others; by associating with them he assumes that reputation. Fact of life, in the real world and online. Accept it for what it is, change it (never heard of him so not sure how much his "good deeds" are seen), or associate with someone who has a better image. Those are the choices.
You're right - this isn't filled with hate. It's filled with contempt. My bad? It's filled with the truth. I guess the truth is contemptible. People associated to you treat people badly, and the populous' opinion of those people will be associated with you, too. You will notice the "change it" part of his comment, so he believes you can be viewed differently if you ("you" meaning your entire corp) make an effort to change it. I concede. I admit I was biased to his post and was lookin' to make a jab at ZTCD. But it's a personal reason and not an Imp mentality. No Imp has EVER pushed me to troll anyone FYI. And - in fact - has warned me that some of the people I target do not deserve what I offer to give. Or care what ya give... You seem to care enough to cry about how often I troll you in war room ;) |
SoTa of PoP
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Posted - 2013.05.09 00:56:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:I troll cause I like to so now that others are starting to accept it I just don't find it fun anymore so anytime I can come in and poke here and poke there is cool but as far as trying to join the elite trollers... just isn't for me. Sounds like crying at your betters to me. |
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Posted - 2013.05.09 02:14:00 -
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Ric Barlom wrote:Well you know what, guys, and I don't know about you but to me this Mithri dude reminds me of Forrest Gump and I'm gonna tell you guys exactly why he reminds me of Forrest Gump. he's lacking just enough in the social department for a guy like me to notice And Mithri if you're reading this, dude, take this in the wrong way, bro, what I'm talking about here Is the community being rational for giving him **** because of the corp he's in You see people are expecting you to be the most moronic person. Asking for people to be friendly to you, just because you are a great guy? I mean c'mon, man, let's be realistic here: It's not gonna happen. Fixed - all his words not mine. :D |
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Posted - 2013.05.09 02:54:00 -
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Bones McGavins wrote:I haven't read this thread past the first page. But honestly this whole forum community is one of the most hostile, needlessly antagonistic and frankly assholeish communities I've been a part of. It's rubbed off on me a bit too and I'm slightly worse of a human being from being a part of it.
But it's fun and it kills time at work. So yeah. Plus a good villian is fun. Imps are like the Miami heat. Good but whiney and unlikable. Lol
I'll throw ya a like :D |
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Posted - 2013.05.09 06:58:00 -
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dustwaffle wrote:Bones McGavins wrote:I haven't read this thread past the first page. But honestly this whole forum community is one of the most hostile, needlessly antagonistic and frankly assholeish communities I've been a part of. It's rubbed off on me a bit too and I'm slightly worse of a human being from being a part of it.
But it's fun and it kills time at work. So yeah. Plus a good villian is fun. Imps are like the Miami heat. Good but whiney and unlikable. Welcome to New Eden, where even the forums are PVP! Come for the tears, stay for the trolls. PS. We're assholes because we care <3 ^
Sounds like someone is understanding Imps :D |
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