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Chi-Chi Chikubi
On The Brink CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.05.08 02:12:00 -
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Anyone find a good setting. Having a very hard time finding my old groove! Any suggestions would be great. |
bolsh lee
Ahrendee Mercenaries
84
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Posted - 2013.05.08 02:18:00 -
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There is no groove to find I cant say for sure whats Fd up but it seems like the sensitivity/dead zone constantly changes be it long range, ironsight or close quarters there is no way for muscle memory to adapt.. Hopefully a fix is scheduled for Friday wish we could get something from a dev on this though |
Chi-Chi Chikubi
On The Brink CRONOS.
17
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Posted - 2013.05.08 02:26:00 -
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bolsh lee wrote:There is no groove to find I cant say for sure whats Fd up but it seems like the sensitivity/dead zone constantly changes be it long range, ironsight or close quarters there is no way for muscle memory to adapt.. Hopefully a fix is scheduled for Friday wish we could get something from a dev on this though
Your right. something is Fd up, and I really hope a fix is scheduled to come soon! Thanks for the reply Bolsh! |
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CCP Wolfman
C C P C C P Alliance
306
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Posted - 2013.05.08 02:43:00 -
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Hi guys,
We have been looking in to this. It would be extremely useful if you could report the settings you are using (sensitivity, smoothing on etc) and the issues you are experiencing with those specific settings. This should help us to isolate specific issues.
Cheers
CCP Wolfman |
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Sylvana Nightwind
Expert Intervention Caldari State
393
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Posted - 2013.05.08 02:47:00 -
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This is on DS3 too I guess. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
2765
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Posted - 2013.05.08 02:53:00 -
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Devs have said they're aware of a problem with mouse and keyboard control, and will fix it. I'm aware of more than one problem and I barely use them, so hopefully the "fix" actually fixes the whole problem and doesn't leave you guys still in a mess. |
Vexas FortyRounds
ROYAL SQUAD Shadow of the Apocalypse
0
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Posted - 2013.05.08 02:57:00 -
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one thing that does really have to change is the grenade key
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fred orpaul
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
262
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Posted - 2013.05.08 03:14:00 -
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my roommate likes 100 with smoothing on, I like 80 with smoothing off. The issue is that mouse acceleration is ALWAYS ON, and on to an absurd extent, so if you twitch 1 cm on the mouse you turn 90deg on the screen but if you slowly move the mouse 1 cm you will only turn 15deg. that is an exaggeration and may not be right 100% but I know the feel of acceleration, how you can't make twitch movements accuratly every thing has to be approx the same speed or you never know where your aim will go.
remove the acceleration and M/KB will be alright, if you want to turn limit us just set a hard max speed.
hey CCP I would like to know if you were trying to balance the m/kb to the ds3 if so next time please talkto use M/kb players (the ones who are willing to compromise) because this feels very much like you tried to make the mouse work like a joystick and that DOES NOT WORK, I would be happy to discuss other ways of limiting the mouse(tho I think its unnecessary), that doesnt break its use.
and I should also mention that after several months of not using a DS3 I should have sucked at aiming, I always do with out regular practice, yet yesterday I picked it up and was aiming significantly better then M/KB. I've started to learn to compensate with M/KB but this was an over nerf of a control scheme that was not significantly more powerful. |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
314
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Posted - 2013.05.08 03:16:00 -
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CCP Wolfman wrote:Hi guys,
We have been looking in to this. It would be extremely useful if you could report the settings you are using (sensitivity, smoothing on etc) and the issues you are experiencing with those specific settings. This should help us to isolate specific issues.
Cheers
CCP Wolfman
I've used every setting configuration possible and they all have issues.
Most notably with KB/M, when you begin firing your aiming turning speed slows to a crawl. This makes it completely impossible to hit a moving target, and considering that a weapon like the HMG has to fire for quite some time before the accuracy is strong enough to even kill someone.... yea, you're not killing anybody. |
Blondie Roads
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
16
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Posted - 2013.05.08 03:16:00 -
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Well.... Yesterday i logged in with my normal settings and aiming was awfull... I tried adjusting everything to no avail.... And all of a sudden when i logged in today its working fine.... Your guess is as good as mine |
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
2767
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Posted - 2013.05.08 03:20:00 -
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CCP Wolfman wrote:Hi guys,
We have been looking in to this. It would be extremely useful if you could report the settings you are using (sensitivity, smoothing on etc) and the issues you are experiencing with those specific settings. This should help us to isolate specific issues.
Cheers
CCP Wolfman Sixaxis controller.
Sensitivity 70 for both X and Y.
Aim Assist On.
This is ALMOST comfortable for me, except that when I'm turning, I start off turning too slow, and take about a second to get up to speed, and when I've been turning and want to slow down for precise aim, I have to stop completely then start turning again instead of being able to smoothly transition back from fast to slow movement. Also, the minimum turn speed I can manage is too high for high-precision control on the rare occasions that I use longer-range weapons than my usual preference.
If I turn Aim Assist off, aiming turns completely insane as soon as a red gets within about 5m from me. I literally have no control over my turn speed, I spin like a top just by nudging the stick in any direction when there's someone nearby, making precise aim literally impossible.
With mouse control, no matter what settings I use, moving the mouse at a constant speed results in a gradual ramping up of turn speed instead of the constant turn speed that logically should happen. Smoothing doesn't make a difference to this effect, but having smoothing on makes it harder to pull a sharp change in direction, so I turned it off. There's also input lag which occurs regardless of any settings I have.
Basically, most of the problems appear to be directly related to the addition of acceleration and that acceleration apparently being applied to mouse control. Please un-break this. Thanks. |
KING CHECKMATE
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
29
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Posted - 2013.05.08 03:22:00 -
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Chi-Chi Chikubi wrote:Anyone find a good setting. Having a very hard time finding my old groove! Any suggestions would be great. Yeah grow a pair, use controller. |
Chi-Chi Chikubi
On The Brink CRONOS.
19
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Posted - 2013.05.08 03:27:00 -
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CCP Wolfman wrote:Hi guys,
We have been looking in to this. It would be extremely useful if you could report the settings you are using (sensitivity, smoothing on etc) and the issues you are experiencing with those specific settings. This should help us to isolate specific issues.
Cheers
CCP Wolfman
Thanks for taking the time to reply. My current settings are 80 for sensitivity and smoothing off! However; I have tried other settings and still feels off. Current settings are what I had prior to uprising and had no problems, since then I have been trying to find that same feel but just cant manage to find it.
Thanks again! |
Deluxe Edition
TeamPlayers EoN.
138
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Posted - 2013.05.08 03:27:00 -
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kb/m Smoothing: ON (With it off sensitivity doesn't matter mouse movement is chaos) Sensitivity: 80 Haven't messed with any other controller setting as I only use KB/m
Do other controller setting affect the performance of kb/m? Also can we get an opption to turn off mouse deceleration and possibly get raw input? |
Blondie Roads
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
16
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Posted - 2013.05.08 03:42:00 -
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My issue is that turn limit was cranked up yesterday making it impossible to find a happy medium.... Today the turn limmit is gone and its easy to adjust settings.... Maybe this is a case by case issue....If so Please dont nerf me now ccp... Everything is fone now... |
Blondie Roads
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
16
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Posted - 2013.05.08 03:58:00 -
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Bump....if your aiming was way off from last build....^^^^ is your issue... Turn limmiting seems to be only affecting a few... Atleast that is what I can deduce from some folks yesterday saying everything was fine... Case by case issue somehow? |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
2768
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Posted - 2013.05.08 04:10:00 -
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Turn speed cap needs to be in for mouse aim to be balanced against sixaxis. If people are no longer capped on turn speed, please fix PROPERLY. Thanks. |
DJINN serious issues
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
10
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Posted - 2013.05.08 04:11:00 -
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CCP Wolfman wrote:Hi guys,
We have been looking in to this. It would be extremely useful if you could report the settings you are using (sensitivity, smoothing on etc) and the issues you are experiencing with those specific settings. This should help us to isolate specific issues.
Cheers
CCP Wolfman
Since most people obviously can't read.
I run the cyborg rat 7.
Smoothing off. Sensitivity 100.
The mouse acceleration feels backwards. I have noticed it on ds3 as well.
Move the mouse slowly from left of pad to right, about 6" total and I get 5 1/2 rotations. Snap it to say do a 180 and you turn like 60 degrees. Completely messed up. Makes it impossible to aim at range since sensitivity changes.
Ds3 is similar. Snap it 100% to the right compared to 75 % and watch the difference. 100 is slow And you can see the accel kick in after a second or so. |
Phoenix Arakyd
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
34
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Posted - 2013.05.08 04:13:00 -
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CCP Wolfman wrote:Hi guys,
We have been looking in to this. It would be extremely useful if you could report the settings you are using (sensitivity, smoothing on etc) and the issues you are experiencing with those specific settings. This should help us to isolate specific issues.
Cheers
CCP Wolfman
the problem is ds3 settings still influence the mouse |
Zyrus Amalomyn
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
107
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Posted - 2013.05.08 04:17:00 -
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CCP Wolfman wrote:Hi guys,
We have been looking in to this. It would be extremely useful if you could report the settings you are using (sensitivity, smoothing on etc) and the issues you are experiencing with those specific settings. This should help us to isolate specific issues.
Cheers
CCP Wolfman
Used to have mouse pointer high, senstiivity 100 in game.
Second I got in game, The assault rifle turning got too finicky, and senstivity while aiming down sights with assault rifle just went way too far either way, preventing me from effectively aiming.
I have since turned it to 90, and while the problem has lessened, the problem is not GONE. I can at least hit people if they are not zig zagging... but trying to hit people with a shotgun is impossible due to he split second delay between mouse movements and on screen movement. |
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bolsh lee
Ahrendee Mercenaries
84
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Posted - 2013.05.08 04:22:00 -
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THIS ISN'T JUST A KEYBOARD AND MOUSE ISSUE
Thanks CCP Wolfman, Sorry for the caps but wanted to make this clear all the DS3 users who are having problems should post here as well..
Ive tried DS3 and Kb/M both feel like they have a deadzone of sorts inconsistent right to left aiming
DS3 - 100% Aim assist on or off
Kb/M - Normally 40%, Smoothing off
Ive tried turning all other options on off left right big small nothing improves on the un-responsiveness and delay while straffing..
By the nature of your reply are you saying this is how aiming is intended to be ? A CCP dev reported earlier that there was a known issue , is this not the case anymore ? |
Blondie Roads
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
16
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Posted - 2013.05.08 04:26:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Turn speed cap needs to be in for mouse aim to be balanced against sixaxis. If people are no longer capped on turn speed, please fix PROPERLY. Thanks.
Adapt or Die....
Qq give me tears...I have a bucket |
Talruum Tezztarozza
Seraphim Auxiliaries CRONOS.
91
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Posted - 2013.05.08 04:26:00 -
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fred orpaul wrote:my roommate likes 100 with smoothing on, I like 80 with smoothing off. The issue is that mouse acceleration is ALWAYS ON, and on to an absurd extent, so if you twitch 1 cm on the mouse you turn 90deg on the screen but if you slowly move the mouse 1 cm you will only turn 15deg. that is an exaggeration and may not be right 100% but I know the feel of acceleration, how you can't make twitch movements accuratly every thing has to be approx the same speed or you never know where your aim will go.
remove the acceleration and M/KB will be alright, if you want to turn limit us just set a hard max speed.
hey CCP I would like to know if you were trying to balance the m/kb to the ds3 if so next time please talkto use M/kb players (the ones who are willing to compromise) because this feels very much like you tried to make the mouse work like a joystick and that DOES NOT WORK, I would be happy to discuss other ways of limiting the mouse(tho I think its unnecessary), that doesnt break its use.
and I should also mention that after several months of not using a DS3 I should have sucked at aiming, I always do with out regular practice, yet yesterday I picked it up and was aiming significantly better then M/KB. I've started to learn to compensate with M/KB but this was an over nerf of a control scheme that was not significantly more powerful. I believe he hit the nail on the head here.
I'm current use 100 sensitivity with mouse assist off. My feeling is mouse control is inconsistent. Sometime, it's slow. Sometime, it's fast. I think Fred explanation seem most probable. This render mouse precise aiming during gunfight impossible.
EDIT: If issue happen to both mkb and controller user, I believe this is the new aim assist CCP was talking about ? So they implement it to both mkb and controller without the way to turn it off ? sound like a bad move to me. |
Eltra Ardell
Goonfeet
36
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Posted - 2013.05.08 04:35:00 -
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Just use raw mouse input, uncapped. This is simple and easy, CCP. I shouldn't have to pray to aim correctly at someone. |
bolsh lee
Ahrendee Mercenaries
84
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Posted - 2013.05.08 04:42:00 -
[25] - Quote
Mark Rein From Epic Games wrote: I checked with Steve Polge and he said that YES we are supporting keyboard and mouse in Unreal Tournament 3 on PS3. He is confident we are doing it in a way that will be balanced without feeling "gimped" for either side.
Talking about Unreal 3 ^^^^
I'm guessing by trying to put the Kb/M on an even playing field you also "Gimped" the DS3 ? Fix it please.... |
Eltra Ardell
Goonfeet
36
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Posted - 2013.05.08 04:47:00 -
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I should probably note that it doesn't make any sense to include KBM controls if they don't respond how people have learned to expect them to respond. In literally every FPS played primarily with KBM, raw input is used, not some virtual joystick or processed and "reduced" input.
Why include KBM support if it doesn't behave like a KBM? |
trollsroyce
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
355
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Posted - 2013.05.08 04:59:00 -
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Raw input if possible, please. Keep it simple :) |
Ansiiis The Trustworthy
Seraphim Auxiliaries CRONOS.
15
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Posted - 2013.05.08 05:07:00 -
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RAW input, please. The game does the worst on 100% sensitivity but on 90% it's too slow to track anyone. |
Aythadis Smith
The Generals EoN.
11
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Posted - 2013.05.08 05:52:00 -
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Fred said it best.
I use a million year old LOGITECH with an old (original) G15, sometimes an old Mac keyboard. But I've used this with other KBM games and... not bad.
Settings are Smoothing off 70 to 90 (old was 100)
Personally, it feels inconsistent. One moment I feel icy like settings, next I feel like im stuck in the mud.
Constantly fighting with the controls with over shoot and under shoot.
As for who ever said "grow a pair, use a controller"
Cool story bro. I honestly having a hard time holding a controller. After a few matches and my thumbs are falling apart. Let alone inside the wrist. |
WyrmHero1945
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
222
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Posted - 2013.05.08 06:04:00 -
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As long as we both have same turning/aiming speed at # of sensitivity I'm fine with this. Not fair that DS3 has an advantage now. |
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Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
680
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Posted - 2013.05.08 06:18:00 -
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DJINN serious issues wrote:I run the cyborg rat 7.
Smoothing off. Sensitivity 100.
The mouse acceleration feels backwards. I have noticed it on ds3 as well.
Move the mouse slowly from left of pad to right, about 6" total and I get 5 1/2 rotations. Snap it to say do a 180 and you turn like 60 degrees. Completely messed up. Makes it impossible to aim at range since sensitivity changes.
Ds3 is similar. Snap it 100% to the right compared to 75 % and watch the difference. 100 is slow And you can see the accel kick in after a second or so. I have rat 7 too, and you're doing it wrong.
You no longer get free turn-speed by having the extremely high DPI setting, so program the mouse with a setting that is about 2000 DPI or lower and try again. Also learn the turn-speed of your suit and learn to move the mouse at that speed. |
Zyrus Amalomyn
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
108
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Posted - 2013.05.08 06:22:00 -
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Rasatsu wrote:DJINN serious issues wrote:I run the cyborg rat 7.
Smoothing off. Sensitivity 100.
The mouse acceleration feels backwards. I have noticed it on ds3 as well.
Move the mouse slowly from left of pad to right, about 6" total and I get 5 1/2 rotations. Snap it to say do a 180 and you turn like 60 degrees. Completely messed up. Makes it impossible to aim at range since sensitivity changes.
Ds3 is similar. Snap it 100% to the right compared to 75 % and watch the difference. 100 is slow And you can see the accel kick in after a second or so. I have rat 7 too, and you're doing it wrong. You no longer get free turn-speed by having the extremely high DPI setting, so program the mouse with a setting that is about 2000 DPI or lower and try again. Also learn the turn-speed of your suit and learn to move the mouse at that speed.
So basically, limit ourselves for the DS3 users.
No thanks. |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
315
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Posted - 2013.05.08 06:27:00 -
[33] - Quote
Yea no limiting going on here.
In the fighting game community we have people who use custom stick setups all the time to get that extra edge. It's expected that people take responsibility for their own control setups. I don't see any reason why DS3 users should feel more entitled here.
Now let's not turn this into another DS3 vs KB/M cryfest thread. |
trollface dot jpg
The Bacon Corporation
62
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Posted - 2013.05.08 06:28:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote: Sixaxis controller.
Sensitivity 70 for both X and Y.
Aim Assist On.
This is ALMOST comfortable for me, except that when I'm turning, I start off turning too slow, and take about a second to get up to speed, and when I've been turning and want to slow down for precise aim, I have to stop completely then start turning again instead of being able to smoothly transition back from fast to slow movement. Also, the minimum turn speed I can manage is too high for high-precision control on the rare occasions that I use longer-range weapons than my usual preference.
If I turn Aim Assist off, aiming turns completely insane as soon as a red gets within about 5m from me. I literally have no control over my turn speed, I spin like a top just by nudging the stick in any direction when there's someone nearby, making precise aim literally impossible.
This best describes the Ds3 issues for me as well. Also, my sensitivity settings I keep moving between 40 & 70, still havent found my comfort zone yet... =( |
Eltra Ardell
Goonfeet
47
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Posted - 2013.05.08 06:29:00 -
[35] - Quote
Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Yea no limiting going on here.
In the fighting game community we have people who use custom stick setups all the time to get that extra edge. It's expected that people take responsibility for their own control setups. I don't see any reason why DS3 users should feel more entitled here.
Now let's not turn this into another DS3 vs KB/M cryfest thread. Both our prefered control schemes are currently messed up badly. Exactly. Every single person here has a keyboard and a mouse. Use it. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
2787
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Posted - 2013.05.08 06:36:00 -
[36] - Quote
Eltra Ardell wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Yea no limiting going on here.
In the fighting game community we have people who use custom stick setups all the time to get that extra edge. It's expected that people take responsibility for their own control setups. I don't see any reason why DS3 users should feel more entitled here.
Now let's not turn this into another DS3 vs KB/M cryfest thread. Both our prefered control schemes are currently messed up badly. Exactly. Every single person here has a keyboard and a mouse. Use it. Really?
There's nobody with only a laptop that can't be plugged into the PS3? Nobody has PS/2 mouse and keyboard like the ones I have on the desk behind me? Nobody uses the browser on their PS3 because they don't have a PC?
Are you REALLY sure that's true? Because I'm not. |
bolsh lee
Ahrendee Mercenaries
86
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Posted - 2013.05.08 06:40:00 -
[37] - Quote
Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Both our prefered control schemes are currently messed up badly.
this
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Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
318
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Posted - 2013.05.08 06:42:00 -
[38] - Quote
Garrett Blacknova wrote:Eltra Ardell wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Yea no limiting going on here.
In the fighting game community we have people who use custom stick setups all the time to get that extra edge. It's expected that people take responsibility for their own control setups. I don't see any reason why DS3 users should feel more entitled here.
Now let's not turn this into another DS3 vs KB/M cryfest thread. Both our prefered control schemes are currently messed up badly. Exactly. Every single person here has a keyboard and a mouse. Use it. Really? There's nobody with only a laptop that can't be plugged into the PS3? Nobody has PS/2 mouse and keyboard like the ones I have on the desk behind me? Nobody uses the browser on their PS3 because they don't have a PC? Are you REALLY sure that's true? Because I'm not.
Cheap KB/M setup, like 20 bucks. A third the price of a DS3 and infinitely more effective.
Those guys I mentioned earlier in the fighting game community spend around $150 minimum for a decent stick, and the learning curve is much higher than a KB/M. You guys have it very easy and should not be complaining. |
Eltra Ardell
Goonfeet
49
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Posted - 2013.05.08 06:53:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:Eltra Ardell wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Yea no limiting going on here.
In the fighting game community we have people who use custom stick setups all the time to get that extra edge. It's expected that people take responsibility for their own control setups. I don't see any reason why DS3 users should feel more entitled here.
Now let's not turn this into another DS3 vs KB/M cryfest thread. Both our prefered control schemes are currently messed up badly. Exactly. Every single person here has a keyboard and a mouse. Use it. Really? There's nobody with only a laptop that can't be plugged into the PS3? Nobody has PS/2 mouse and keyboard like the ones I have on the desk behind me? Nobody uses the browser on their PS3 because they don't have a PC? Are you REALLY sure that's true? Because I'm not. Cheap KB/M setup, like 20 bucks. A third the price of a DS3 and infinitely more effective. Those guys I mentioned earlier in the fighting game community spend around $150 minimum for a decent stick, and the learning curve is much higher than a KB/M. You guys have it very easy and should not be complaining. Self-entitlement is a major problem these days. |
Jebus McKing
DUST University Ivy League
51
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Posted - 2013.05.08 07:36:00 -
[40] - Quote
I'm using my old Razer Diamondback 3G mouse.
Settings in Chromosome: Pointer speed max, sensitivity 50, smoothing off, aim assist off worked fine for me most of the time (except when frames per second dropped below 15, especially in CQC :/ )
Settings in Uprising: Pointer speed max, sensitivity 100, smoothing on, aim assist off works better than Uprising with old settings but it still is very hard to track targets; still huge frame rate drops (again especially in CQC) make it almost impossible to aim properly
In Uprising I find it almost impossible to aim using the sights. I switched to hip-fire spray&pray, somewhat works, but it is not satisfying at all.
As people before me mentioned, mouse acceleration might be the cause of the problem. I'll take a closer look on this one when I get home today. |
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
2795
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Posted - 2013.05.08 07:49:00 -
[41] - Quote
Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:Eltra Ardell wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Yea no limiting going on here.
In the fighting game community we have people who use custom stick setups all the time to get that extra edge. It's expected that people take responsibility for their own control setups. I don't see any reason why DS3 users should feel more entitled here.
Now let's not turn this into another DS3 vs KB/M cryfest thread. Both our prefered control schemes are currently messed up badly. Exactly. Every single person here has a keyboard and a mouse. Use it. Really? There's nobody with only a laptop that can't be plugged into the PS3? Nobody has PS/2 mouse and keyboard like the ones I have on the desk behind me? Nobody uses the browser on their PS3 because they don't have a PC? Are you REALLY sure that's true? Because I'm not. Cheap KB/M setup, like 20 bucks. A third the price of a DS3 and infinitely more effective. Those guys I mentioned earlier in the fighting game community spend around $150 minimum for a decent stick, and the learning curve is much higher than a KB/M. You guys have it very easy and should not be complaining. A third of the price of the CAME FREE WITH MY PS3... yeah, not so much.
And I learned to play FPS games with Doom. I had to relearn the game when Quake came out. I played a lot of FPS games which had capped turn speeds. It's not part of the current-gen "standard", but that doesn't mean it's not a valid balance mechanism - particularly in light of this game supporting control schemes where you can't legitimately match the turn speeds a mouse can otherwise allow for.
Not limiting turn speed was the core reason why UT3 was broken for cross-platform play, and the core reason why Shadowrun was broken for cross-platform play, and if DUST makes the same mistake, it will be just as broken.
And $20 is infinitely more expensive - literally INFINITELY MORE EXPENSIVE - than the price you're paying for the game. A free-to-play game shouldn't be "free, except you need to buy a non-standard peripheral your console doesn't come with". |
Icedslayer
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
64
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Posted - 2013.05.08 07:54:00 -
[42] - Quote
I use DS3
Chromosome X70 Y40
Uprising I started out at the same settings and noticed they we're really sluggish, so i went up to 100 /50 and it was a little better but doing small movements was impossible, it would start of super sluggish then accelerate at mach 10 making aiming near impossible. I since then turned down to 70/40 but still if find it super hard to aim.
And to all those people who hate kbm or ds3 just get along, i love playing against people in using KBM it makes me tighten up my game. |
Rei Shepard
Spectre II
198
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Posted - 2013.05.08 08:00:00 -
[43] - Quote
I am currently playing at 90 ingame sensitivity and 2000 dpi on the X axis and 1600 DPI on the Y axis of my mouse, i can set them separately so at least the oval aiming is back to a round movement.
This is passable for some mediocre control, but i cannot hit someone strafing in front of me and have to content myself with attacking at max range.
there is still random accel and deccel when you hold the trigger witch making adjustments when you stop firing very much impossible because 1 moment you are tracking targets at X speed and a second later you are tracking them at another X speed.
Its impossible to get any consistency.
Just patch back the old mouse scheme pls. |
Roy Xkillerz
Red Star. EoN.
5
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Posted - 2013.05.08 08:02:00 -
[44] - Quote
i am using 80X and 80 Y with DS3 controller. Gladly this getting looked into because this is the biggest thing that is hurting me gameplay. I want me old aiming back. |
Gunhilda Zetter
DUST University Ivy League
0
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Posted - 2013.05.08 08:19:00 -
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For me the mouse sensitivity has increased, so I just dropped it to 90% and it's now quite decent. There does seem to be an extra degree of sway when zoomed in, although that could be just my perception and not a mouse issue at all.
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Panther Alpha
WarRavens Orion Empire
154
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Posted - 2013.05.08 08:31:00 -
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CCP Wolfman wrote:Hi guys,
We have been looking in to this. It would be extremely useful if you could report the settings you are using (sensitivity, smoothing on etc) and the issues you are experiencing with those specific settings. This should help us to isolate specific issues.
Cheers
CCP Wolfman
I can find the "Zone" anymore, that sweet spot i had with the old build....
The closes i got to about right, is setting the in-game sensitivity option to 50%, and then setting my mouse dpi to max...but even then still feels inaccurate, specially when zooming in.
Having saying that, it toke me about 3 hours to get use to the DS3 again, and my scores haven't change that much.
But it will be nice to use the mouse again..
Edit; I always have Smoothing off ( In every game ) |
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ChribbaX
Otherworld Enterprises Dust Control Otherworld Empire Productions
381
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Posted - 2013.05.08 08:51:00 -
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Regular microsoft mouse whooo
Did with sensitivity 50 messed up, changed to 70 was a bit better or I had gotten used to it - no auto aim, no smoothening |
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Beld Errmon
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
600
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Posted - 2013.05.08 10:02:00 -
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I had my mouse set to 80 with smoothing off on board DPI set to 650 and 900 for tanking. |
kenderr cillo
Grupo de Asalto Chacal CRONOS.
7
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Posted - 2013.05.08 10:26:00 -
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Before uprising sensitivty 60 without smooth, now sensitivity to 90 and goes worst than before. Seems to be drunked, the movements are not precise, i need to do a lot of corrections with the mouse to aim.
Also, i dont know why grenades are so slowly, i press the button and sometimes i have to wait 2 or 3 seconds to drop it. |
Darkstar Militarius
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
6
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Posted - 2013.05.08 10:50:00 -
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I could not put my finger on it until I read this thread, but I have to completely agree it is the acceleration on the mouse, it feels completely off. Love pretty much every other aspect of Uprising, but my aiming has gone completely to pot. (Not that I was ever a god before, not by any stretch of the imagination.)
Chromosome: Sensitivity 100, Smoothing off
Uprising: Dropped Sensitivity to 90, as 100 was just chaotic, and while somewhat better it seems fine aiming is extremely hard, compared to before.
On a side note, Please, Pretty Please guys, don't turn this into yet another kb/m vs ds3 thread. As mentioned before, it seems we are all having troubles, but besides this I say use what is best for *you*, some people (like mself) grew up with KB/M and that just feels natural, I seriously cannot use a controller for these games (FPS/Infantry). Some people learnt solely on Console and Controller, and that is fine too. Use what is best for yourself, it doesn't matter what someone else is using, they all die the same. :D
TBH, I'd actually say mine is more Hybrid input. I use KB/M while on foot, but LAV or DS Piloting I pick my control up and use it, as it is better for that sort of input, for me. "For Me" being the operative words there. |
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Dregarian
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
1
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Posted - 2013.05.08 12:58:00 -
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I run a G15 KB with a G500 M.
Sensitivity set at 90 with smoothing off. My mouse does have an acceleration button that I sometimes adjust during play but for the most part my aiming seems fine.
I have yet to experience anything that is honestly worth complaining about or making note of. |
BOZ MR
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
128
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Posted - 2013.05.08 13:01:00 -
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CCP Wolfman wrote:Hi guys,
We have been looking in to this. It would be extremely useful if you could report the settings you are using (sensitivity, smoothing on etc) and the issues you are experiencing with those specific settings. This should help us to isolate specific issues.
Cheers
CCP Wolfman Tank turrets turn faster when you zoom in with mouse. Don't you play your game just a little? |
Kazio De Vihura
Rave Technologies Inc. C0VEN
16
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Posted - 2013.05.08 15:41:00 -
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BOZ MR wrote:CCP Wolfman wrote:Hi guys,
We have been looking in to this. It would be extremely useful if you could report the settings you are using (sensitivity, smoothing on etc) and the issues you are experiencing with those specific settings. This should help us to isolate specific issues.
Cheers
CCP Wolfman Tank turrets turn faster when you zoom in with mouse. Don't you play your game just a little?
This just plugged some 2-3 different mouse and try play... |
F54423
Hand of Azrael
12
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Posted - 2013.05.08 16:00:00 -
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I'm also forced to play at 90 Sensitivity. 100 is overly sensitive and seems to have a delay. The mouse reacts a half second after I do. Aim assist and smoothing seem to further hinder control rather than help. |
EVE-Daniel
Liandri Hel-Jumpers Liandri Covenant
12
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Posted - 2013.05.08 16:02:00 -
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tbh i use my mouse on sensitivity on 40 and smoothing off but can't shoot anyone that is moving around too much or jumping x.x mouse isn't too slow, it just doesn't seem to want to point to where i want it to point all the time at the right time |
Khan Hun
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2013.05.08 17:51:00 -
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I know this isn't very helpful, but as a KB+M user the controls are just.. broken.
I think its lag before the game responds, but also the difference between normal movement and aiming down sights movement seems very jarring when you go from one to the other.
Its extremely frustrating. |
Abbie NORML
Planetary Response Organization
3
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Posted - 2013.05.08 19:28:00 -
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Before this update my mouse was set to 80 Sensitivity with Smooth Scrolling ON.
Now it is set to 40 Sensitivity with Smooth Scrolling OFF.
My movement is not how I want it but atleast I can actually hit things with bullets again. Major headache that had me foaming from the mouth with rage, I've calmed down a bit after many hours spent testing settings but something is still not right.
I recommend all the smooth scrollers try turning it off and lowering sensitivity to atleast test it out. Before this update the mouse was seriously shaky without smoothing, it doesn't seem that way anymore. |
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