DUST Search - Peolpes mouse/keyboard settings.

Himiko Kuronaga wrote:

Garrett Blacknova wrote:

Eltra Ardell wrote:

Himiko Kuronaga wrote:

Yea no limiting going on here.

In the fighting game community we have people who use custom stick setups all the time to get that extra edge. It's expected that people take responsibility for their own control setups. I don't see any reason why DS3 users should feel more entitled here.

Now let's not turn this into another DS3 vs KB/M cryfest thread. Both our prefered control schemes are currently messed up badly.

Exactly. Every single person here has a keyboard and a mouse. Use it.

Really?

There's nobody with only a laptop that can't be plugged into the PS3?
Nobody has PS/2 mouse and keyboard like the ones I have on the desk behind me?
Nobody uses the browser on their PS3 because they don't have a PC?

Are you REALLY sure that's true? Because I'm not.

Cheap KB/M setup, like 20 bucks. A third the price of a DS3 and infinitely more effective.

Those guys I mentioned earlier in the fighting game community spend around $150 minimum for a decent stick, and the learning curve is much higher than a KB/M. You guys have it very easy and should not be complaining.

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Rasatsu Much Crying Old Experts 680	Posted - 2013.05.08 06:18:00 - [31] - Quote DJINN serious issues wrote: I run the cyborg rat 7. Smoothing off. Sensitivity 100. The mouse acceleration feels backwards. I have noticed it on ds3 as well. Move the mouse slowly from left of pad to right, about 6" total and I get 5 1/2 rotations. Snap it to say do a 180 and you turn like 60 degrees. Completely messed up. Makes it impossible to aim at range since sensitivity changes. Ds3 is similar. Snap it 100% to the right compared to 75 % and watch the difference. 100 is slow And you can see the accel kick in after a second or so. I have rat 7 too, and you're doing it wrong. You no longer get free turn-speed by having the extremely high DPI setting, so program the mouse with a setting that is about 2000 DPI or lower and try again. Also learn the turn-speed of your suit and learn to move the mouse at that speed.
Zyrus Amalomyn Militaires-Sans-Frontieres 108	Posted - 2013.05.08 06:22:00 - [32] - Quote Rasatsu wrote: DJINN serious issues wrote: I run the cyborg rat 7. Smoothing off. Sensitivity 100. The mouse acceleration feels backwards. I have noticed it on ds3 as well. Move the mouse slowly from left of pad to right, about 6" total and I get 5 1/2 rotations. Snap it to say do a 180 and you turn like 60 degrees. Completely messed up. Makes it impossible to aim at range since sensitivity changes. Ds3 is similar. Snap it 100% to the right compared to 75 % and watch the difference. 100 is slow And you can see the accel kick in after a second or so. I have rat 7 too, and you're doing it wrong. You no longer get free turn-speed by having the extremely high DPI setting, so program the mouse with a setting that is about 2000 DPI or lower and try again. Also learn the turn-speed of your suit and learn to move the mouse at that speed. So basically, limit ourselves for the DS3 users. No thanks.
Himiko Kuronaga SyNergy Gaming EoN. 315	Posted - 2013.05.08 06:27:00 - [33] - Quote Yea no limiting going on here. In the fighting game community we have people who use custom stick setups all the time to get that extra edge. It's expected that people take responsibility for their own control setups. I don't see any reason why DS3 users should feel more entitled here. Now let's not turn this into another DS3 vs KB/M cryfest thread.
trollface dot jpg The Bacon Corporation 62	Posted - 2013.05.08 06:28:00 - [34] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: Sixaxis controller. Sensitivity 70 for both X and Y. Aim Assist On. This is ALMOST comfortable for me, except that when I'm turning, I start off turning too slow, and take about a second to get up to speed, and when I've been turning and want to slow down for precise aim, I have to stop completely then start turning again instead of being able to smoothly transition back from fast to slow movement. Also, the minimum turn speed I can manage is too high for high-precision control on the rare occasions that I use longer-range weapons than my usual preference. If I turn Aim Assist off, aiming turns completely insane as soon as a red gets within about 5m from me. I literally have no control over my turn speed, I spin like a top just by nudging the stick in any direction when there's someone nearby, making precise aim literally impossible. This best describes the Ds3 issues for me as well. Also, my sensitivity settings I keep moving between 40 & 70, still havent found my comfort zone yet... =(
Eltra Ardell Goonfeet 47	Posted - 2013.05.08 06:29:00 - [35] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Yea no limiting going on here. In the fighting game community we have people who use custom stick setups all the time to get that extra edge. It's expected that people take responsibility for their own control setups. I don't see any reason why DS3 users should feel more entitled here. Now let's not turn this into another DS3 vs KB/M cryfest thread. Both our prefered control schemes are currently messed up badly. Exactly. Every single person here has a keyboard and a mouse. Use it.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 2787	Posted - 2013.05.08 06:36:00 - [36] - Quote Eltra Ardell wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Yea no limiting going on here. In the fighting game community we have people who use custom stick setups all the time to get that extra edge. It's expected that people take responsibility for their own control setups. I don't see any reason why DS3 users should feel more entitled here. Now let's not turn this into another DS3 vs KB/M cryfest thread. Both our prefered control schemes are currently messed up badly. Exactly. Every single person here has a keyboard and a mouse. Use it. Really? There's nobody with only a laptop that can't be plugged into the PS3? Nobody has PS/2 mouse and keyboard like the ones I have on the desk behind me? Nobody uses the browser on their PS3 because they don't have a PC? Are you REALLY sure that's true? Because I'm not.
bolsh lee Ahrendee Mercenaries 86	Posted - 2013.05.08 06:40:00 - [37] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Both our prefered control schemes are currently messed up badly. this
Himiko Kuronaga SyNergy Gaming EoN. 318	Posted - 2013.05.08 06:42:00 - [38] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: Eltra Ardell wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Yea no limiting going on here. In the fighting game community we have people who use custom stick setups all the time to get that extra edge. It's expected that people take responsibility for their own control setups. I don't see any reason why DS3 users should feel more entitled here. Now let's not turn this into another DS3 vs KB/M cryfest thread. Both our prefered control schemes are currently messed up badly. Exactly. Every single person here has a keyboard and a mouse. Use it. Really? There's nobody with only a laptop that can't be plugged into the PS3? Nobody has PS/2 mouse and keyboard like the ones I have on the desk behind me? Nobody uses the browser on their PS3 because they don't have a PC? Are you REALLY sure that's true? Because I'm not. Cheap KB/M setup, like 20 bucks. A third the price of a DS3 and infinitely more effective. Those guys I mentioned earlier in the fighting game community spend around $150 minimum for a decent stick, and the learning curve is much higher than a KB/M. You guys have it very easy and should not be complaining.
Eltra Ardell Goonfeet 49	Posted - 2013.05.08 06:53:00 - [39] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: Eltra Ardell wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Yea no limiting going on here. In the fighting game community we have people who use custom stick setups all the time to get that extra edge. It's expected that people take responsibility for their own control setups. I don't see any reason why DS3 users should feel more entitled here. Now let's not turn this into another DS3 vs KB/M cryfest thread. Both our prefered control schemes are currently messed up badly. Exactly. Every single person here has a keyboard and a mouse. Use it. Really? There's nobody with only a laptop that can't be plugged into the PS3? Nobody has PS/2 mouse and keyboard like the ones I have on the desk behind me? Nobody uses the browser on their PS3 because they don't have a PC? Are you REALLY sure that's true? Because I'm not. Cheap KB/M setup, like 20 bucks. A third the price of a DS3 and infinitely more effective. Those guys I mentioned earlier in the fighting game community spend around $150 minimum for a decent stick, and the learning curve is much higher than a KB/M. You guys have it very easy and should not be complaining. Self-entitlement is a major problem these days.
Jebus McKing DUST University Ivy League 51	Posted - 2013.05.08 07:36:00 - [40] - Quote I'm using my old Razer Diamondback 3G mouse. Settings in Chromosome: Pointer speed max, sensitivity 50, smoothing off, aim assist off worked fine for me most of the time (except when frames per second dropped below 15, especially in CQC :/ ) Settings in Uprising: Pointer speed max, sensitivity 100, smoothing on, aim assist off works better than Uprising with old settings but it still is very hard to track targets; still huge frame rate drops (again especially in CQC) make it almost impossible to aim properly In Uprising I find it almost impossible to aim using the sights. I switched to hip-fire spray&pray, somewhat works, but it is not satisfying at all. As people before me mentioned, mouse acceleration might be the cause of the problem. I'll take a closer look on this one when I get home today.

Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 2795	Posted - 2013.05.08 07:49:00 - [41] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: Eltra Ardell wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Yea no limiting going on here. In the fighting game community we have people who use custom stick setups all the time to get that extra edge. It's expected that people take responsibility for their own control setups. I don't see any reason why DS3 users should feel more entitled here. Now let's not turn this into another DS3 vs KB/M cryfest thread. Both our prefered control schemes are currently messed up badly. Exactly. Every single person here has a keyboard and a mouse. Use it. Really? There's nobody with only a laptop that can't be plugged into the PS3? Nobody has PS/2 mouse and keyboard like the ones I have on the desk behind me? Nobody uses the browser on their PS3 because they don't have a PC? Are you REALLY sure that's true? Because I'm not. Cheap KB/M setup, like 20 bucks. A third the price of a DS3 and infinitely more effective. Those guys I mentioned earlier in the fighting game community spend around $150 minimum for a decent stick, and the learning curve is much higher than a KB/M. You guys have it very easy and should not be complaining. A third of the price of the CAME FREE WITH MY PS3... yeah, not so much. And I learned to play FPS games with Doom. I had to relearn the game when Quake came out. I played a lot of FPS games which had capped turn speeds. It's not part of the current-gen "standard", but that doesn't mean it's not a valid balance mechanism - particularly in light of this game supporting control schemes where you can't legitimately match the turn speeds a mouse can otherwise allow for. Not limiting turn speed was the core reason why UT3 was broken for cross-platform play, and the core reason why Shadowrun was broken for cross-platform play, and if DUST makes the same mistake, it will be just as broken. And $20 is infinitely more expensive - literally INFINITELY MORE EXPENSIVE - than the price you're paying for the game. A free-to-play game shouldn't be "free, except you need to buy a non-standard peripheral your console doesn't come with".
Icedslayer SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 64	Posted - 2013.05.08 07:54:00 - [42] - Quote I use DS3 Chromosome X70 Y40 Uprising I started out at the same settings and noticed they we're really sluggish, so i went up to 100 /50 and it was a little better but doing small movements was impossible, it would start of super sluggish then accelerate at mach 10 making aiming near impossible. I since then turned down to 70/40 but still if find it super hard to aim. And to all those people who hate kbm or ds3 just get along, i love playing against people in using KBM it makes me tighten up my game.
Rei Shepard Spectre II 198	Posted - 2013.05.08 08:00:00 - [43] - Quote I am currently playing at 90 ingame sensitivity and 2000 dpi on the X axis and 1600 DPI on the Y axis of my mouse, i can set them separately so at least the oval aiming is back to a round movement. This is passable for some mediocre control, but i cannot hit someone strafing in front of me and have to content myself with attacking at max range. there is still random accel and deccel when you hold the trigger witch making adjustments when you stop firing very much impossible because 1 moment you are tracking targets at X speed and a second later you are tracking them at another X speed. Its impossible to get any consistency. Just patch back the old mouse scheme pls.
Roy Xkillerz Red Star. EoN. 5	Posted - 2013.05.08 08:02:00 - [44] - Quote i am using 80X and 80 Y with DS3 controller. Gladly this getting looked into because this is the biggest thing that is hurting me gameplay. I want me old aiming back.
Gunhilda Zetter DUST University Ivy League 0	Posted - 2013.05.08 08:19:00 - [45] - Quote For me the mouse sensitivity has increased, so I just dropped it to 90% and it's now quite decent. There does seem to be an extra degree of sway when zoomed in, although that could be just my perception and not a mouse issue at all. .
Panther Alpha WarRavens Orion Empire 154	Posted - 2013.05.08 08:31:00 - [46] - Quote CCP Wolfman wrote: Hi guys, We have been looking in to this. It would be extremely useful if you could report the settings you are using (sensitivity, smoothing on etc) and the issues you are experiencing with those specific settings. This should help us to isolate specific issues. Cheers CCP Wolfman I can find the "Zone" anymore, that sweet spot i had with the old build.... The closes i got to about right, is setting the in-game sensitivity option to 50%, and then setting my mouse dpi to max...but even then still feels inaccurate, specially when zooming in. Having saying that, it toke me about 3 hours to get use to the DS3 again, and my scores haven't change that much. But it will be nice to use the mouse again.. Edit; I always have Smoothing off ( In every game )

ChribbaX Otherworld Enterprises Dust Control Otherworld Empire Productions 381	Posted - 2013.05.08 08:51:00 - [47] - Quote Regular microsoft mouse whooo Did with sensitivity 50 messed up, changed to 70 was a bit better or I had gotten used to it - no auto aim, no smoothening

Beld Errmon Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 600	Posted - 2013.05.08 10:02:00 - [48] - Quote I had my mouse set to 80 with smoothing off on board DPI set to 650 and 900 for tanking.
kenderr cillo Grupo de Asalto Chacal CRONOS. 7	Posted - 2013.05.08 10:26:00 - [49] - Quote Before uprising sensitivty 60 without smooth, now sensitivity to 90 and goes worst than before. Seems to be drunked, the movements are not precise, i need to do a lot of corrections with the mouse to aim. Also, i dont know why grenades are so slowly, i press the button and sometimes i have to wait 2 or 3 seconds to drop it.
Darkstar Militarius The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION 6	Posted - 2013.05.08 10:50:00 - [50] - Quote I could not put my finger on it until I read this thread, but I have to completely agree it is the acceleration on the mouse, it feels completely off. Love pretty much every other aspect of Uprising, but my aiming has gone completely to pot. (Not that I was ever a god before, not by any stretch of the imagination.) Chromosome: Sensitivity 100, Smoothing off Uprising: Dropped Sensitivity to 90, as 100 was just chaotic, and while somewhat better it seems fine aiming is extremely hard, compared to before. On a side note, Please, Pretty Please guys, don't turn this into yet another kb/m vs ds3 thread. As mentioned before, it seems we are all having troubles, but besides this I say use what is best for you, some people (like mself) grew up with KB/M and that just feels natural, I seriously cannot use a controller for these games (FPS/Infantry). Some people learnt solely on Console and Controller, and that is fine too. Use what is best for yourself, it doesn't matter what someone else is using, they all die the same. :D TBH, I'd actually say mine is more Hybrid input. I use KB/M while on foot, but LAV or DS Piloting I pick my control up and use it, as it is better for that sort of input, for me. "For Me" being the operative words there.

Dregarian IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback 1	Posted - 2013.05.08 12:58:00 - [51] - Quote I run a G15 KB with a G500 M. Sensitivity set at 90 with smoothing off. My mouse does have an acceleration button that I sometimes adjust during play but for the most part my aiming seems fine. I have yet to experience anything that is honestly worth complaining about or making note of.
BOZ MR Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 128	Posted - 2013.05.08 13:01:00 - [52] - Quote CCP Wolfman wrote: Hi guys, We have been looking in to this. It would be extremely useful if you could report the settings you are using (sensitivity, smoothing on etc) and the issues you are experiencing with those specific settings. This should help us to isolate specific issues. Cheers CCP Wolfman Tank turrets turn faster when you zoom in with mouse. Don't you play your game just a little?
Kazio De Vihura Rave Technologies Inc. C0VEN 16	Posted - 2013.05.08 15:41:00 - [53] - Quote BOZ MR wrote: CCP Wolfman wrote: Hi guys, We have been looking in to this. It would be extremely useful if you could report the settings you are using (sensitivity, smoothing on etc) and the issues you are experiencing with those specific settings. This should help us to isolate specific issues. Cheers CCP Wolfman Tank turrets turn faster when you zoom in with mouse. Don't you play your game just a little? This just plugged some 2-3 different mouse and try play...
F54423 Hand of Azrael 12	Posted - 2013.05.08 16:00:00 - [54] - Quote I'm also forced to play at 90 Sensitivity. 100 is overly sensitive and seems to have a delay. The mouse reacts a half second after I do. Aim assist and smoothing seem to further hinder control rather than help.
EVE-Daniel Liandri Hel-Jumpers Liandri Covenant 12	Posted - 2013.05.08 16:02:00 - [55] - Quote tbh i use my mouse on sensitivity on 40 and smoothing off but can't shoot anyone that is moving around too much or jumping x.x mouse isn't too slow, it just doesn't seem to want to point to where i want it to point all the time at the right time
Khan Hun Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 3	Posted - 2013.05.08 17:51:00 - [56] - Quote I know this isn't very helpful, but as a KB+M user the controls are just.. broken. I think its lag before the game responds, but also the difference between normal movement and aiming down sights movement seems very jarring when you go from one to the other. Its extremely frustrating.
Abbie NORML Planetary Response Organization 3	Posted - 2013.05.08 19:28:00 - [57] - Quote Before this update my mouse was set to 80 Sensitivity with Smooth Scrolling ON. Now it is set to 40 Sensitivity with Smooth Scrolling OFF. My movement is not how I want it but atleast I can actually hit things with bullets again. Major headache that had me foaming from the mouth with rage, I've calmed down a bit after many hours spent testing settings but something is still not right. I recommend all the smooth scrollers try turning it off and lowering sensitivity to atleast test it out. Before this update the mouse was seriously shaky without smoothing, it doesn't seem that way anymore.


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