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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
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Posted - 2013.05.07 07:30:00 -
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I have seen many try to rein in and try to calm (some try to stifle) the angry posts and encourage people to be constructive in their criticisms.
The lack of communication and perception that we're not being listened to pretty much guarantees that the raging rants will never end.
I don't believe anyone really thinks CCP devs pay any more attention to the constructive criticism than they do the dipstick rants that violate the EULA.
Bluntly what we have here is an echo chamber of people who scream for nerfs and a few people who beg for CCP to not wreck things at random because a buncha loud goombas feel everyone is entitled to their opinions.
But there is no communication. No acknowledgement of whether the DEVS think that a piece of criticism is worth watching ior if they think the poster is being a mewling CoD tryhard.
No indication of what is being looked at and why, and certainly no rational explanation as to what the hell happened.
This lack of communication (except with the CPM who are under an NDA gag order) is merely feeding the fire of hatred. The lack of communication is why most of us are angry. We feel that most of our words have and do fall on no ears unless someone hits the report button. We've gotten to the point where we rant and rage just to see if anyone is even paying attention.
So far the answer is no. So I have no sympathy for CCP when the lack of communication means the forums turn into the Lord of the Flies. There's no adult supervision, the heaviy class started getting called piggy, and he was stabbed by the rampaging spear-chucking children.
No communication is a thousand times worse than poor communication. |
Jotun Hiem
The Tritan Industries
RISE of LEGION
595
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Posted - 2013.05.07 07:51:00 -
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Nice post. I dig the literary reference.
+1 |
Smooth Head
Vherokior Combat Logistics
Minmatar Republic
20
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Posted - 2013.05.07 07:55:00 -
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CCP. Never apologise, never explain.
Persecute those who question.
I think that about covers it. |
The Robot Devil
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
207
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Posted - 2013.05.07 08:03:00 -
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Do you want them to develop the game or spend all of their time in the forums? They need time and we should give them at least 24 hours. |
Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
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Posted - 2013.05.07 08:09:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:Do you want them to develop the game or spend all of their time in the forums? They need time and we should give them at least 24 hours.
communication doesn't need to be a dev response to every little ranting nutjob here. most of those are trolls anyway.
But commenting on things people think are a major problem? Explaining motivation behind decisions? hey this seems OP so we're smacking it down to see if we're imagining things?
Given CCP's history in EVE it will be the next expansion in 6 months when they admit they may have made a mistake. weapons besides the AR will be re-buffed next summer's expansion. Then they'll unveil it at fanfest and tell everyone "we don't really hate you heavies."
betting pool. now. I have 1 million ISK that says this is what happens. |
The Robot Devil
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
207
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Posted - 2013.05.07 08:20:00 -
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All I am saying is that we need to give them more time. Let them look at the data and all the posts and determine what is truly broken or bugged and what is people mad that their win button is gone. No matter what we do or say it takes time and we should respect the hard work they put into this labor of love and give them what they need. I am not making excuses or trying to dissuade mercs from voicing opinions and concerns. I want balance and a fun game but we have to give them a reasonable amount of time.
This is a game to us and we have lots of time to play and post but it is a job to CCP and I doubt they are on the clock 24/7. They have families and need down time to relax, let them. Imagine for one moment how you would feel if you did your job to the best of your abilities and within one hour you were told you were stupid by a bunch of people who have no idea how to do your job. Come on people let's get real and give them time to do what we want. |
Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
778
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Posted - 2013.05.07 08:25:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:Come on people let's get real and give them time to do what we want.
i won't argue this point, but basically the forums are spilling over with "This build is not fun"
it is a simple message. it's easy to comprehend. But we've not seen so much as an acknowledgement that we have even been heard and understood.
Obedience by the devs isn't mandatory. acknowledgement would be nice though. |
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CCP Praetorian
C C P
C C P Alliance
25
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Posted - 2013.05.07 08:32:00 -
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We are monitoring these discussions actively, and we are extremely grateful for all of the feedback. Our teams are actively working on stabilizing, fixing and improving things, and following the forums helps them do their job better.
So, please keep the feedback coming. It does not get un-noticed.  |
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Olaf the Gutless
DUST University
Ivy League
15
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Posted - 2013.05.07 09:06:00 -
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Skill reset would be handy. Was a complete noob and used my SP up lol |
Yay Adski
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
220
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Posted - 2013.05.07 09:12:00 -
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Olaf the Gutless wrote:Skill reset would be handy. Was a complete noob and used my SP up lol
Someone didn't pay attention in class.. |
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Smooth Head
Vherokior Combat Logistics
Minmatar Republic
20
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Posted - 2013.05.07 09:15:00 -
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CCP Praetorian wrote:We are monitoring these discussions actively, and we are extremely grateful for all of the feedback. Our teams are actively working on stabilizing, fixing and improving things, and following the forums helps them do their job better. So, please keep the feedback coming. It does not get un-noticed. I don't buy that. The last time CCP asked me for feedback I was met with anger, threats and vindicitve retribution.
No sir, sort your own crap out. |
KatanaPT
Tech Guard
General Tso's Alliance
89
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Posted - 2013.05.07 09:16:00 -
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CCP Praetorian wrote:We are monitoring these discussions actively, and we are extremely grateful for all of the feedback. Our teams are actively working on stabilizing, fixing and improving things, and following the forums helps them do their job better. So, please keep the feedback coming. It does not get un-noticed.
Please for the love of God, add a Delete All Emails :D |
Another Heavy SOB
TRUE TEA BAGGERS
Orion Empire
60
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Posted - 2013.05.07 09:17:00 -
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Yay Adski wrote:Olaf the Gutless wrote:Skill reset would be handy. Was a complete noob and used my SP up lol Someone didn't pay attention in class..
I know a few people that skilled Dropsuit command to lvl5........And skilled a medium frame..... |
Bubba Brown
Militaires Sans Jeux
36
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Posted - 2013.05.07 09:18:00 -
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CCP Praetorian wrote:We are monitoring these discussions actively, and we are extremely grateful for all of the feedback. Our teams are actively working on stabilizing, fixing and improving things, and following the forums helps them do their job better. So, please keep the feedback coming. It does not get un-noticed.
chances are you're listing to the IRC selectively. if that's what you guys actually do. that's ok i guess
just please
please always remember
the vocal irc members are mostly members of high tier corporations. they are not your entire consumer base. if you please only them, things will go very much down hill |
meri jin
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
26
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Posted - 2013.05.07 09:18:00 -
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Olaf the Gutless wrote:Skill reset would be handy. Was a complete noob and used my SP up lol
I try to use the new "skilltree" and mis-skill one thing, but well, its my foult.  |
Panther Alpha
WarRavens
Orion Empire
148
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Posted - 2013.05.07 09:21:00 -
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CCP Praetorian wrote:We are monitoring these discussions actively, and we are extremely grateful for all of the feedback. Our teams are actively working on stabilizing, fixing and improving things, and following the forums helps them do their job better. So, please keep the feedback coming. It does not get un-noticed.
I hope you don't following ALL feedback closely, because most of it is just cry baby's complaining about their favorite toys. 
Just ignore "some" of it, please....... |
Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
784
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Posted - 2013.05.07 09:21:00 -
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CCP Praetorian wrote:We are monitoring these discussions actively, and we are extremely grateful for all of the feedback. Our teams are actively working on stabilizing, fixing and improving things, and following the forums helps them do their job better. So, please keep the feedback coming. It does not get un-noticed.
Thank you for that. |
Another Heavy SOB
TRUE TEA BAGGERS
Orion Empire
60
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Posted - 2013.05.07 09:25:00 -
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meri jin wrote:Olaf the Gutless wrote:Skill reset would be handy. Was a complete noob and used my SP up lol I try to use the new "skilltree" and mis-skill one thing, but well, its my foult.
Actually as long as you can read the language set on your ps3 any "mistakenly" spent SP is entirely your fault. Unless the skill is broken, which will be fixed and thus was not a waste.
Now if you skilled Weaponry to V thinking you were getting complex damage mods to use on your AR, that's all on you. |
Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S.
RISE of LEGION
482
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Posted - 2013.05.07 10:33:00 -
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CCP Praetorian wrote:We are monitoring these discussions actively, and we are extremely grateful for all of the feedback. Our teams are actively working on stabilizing, fixing and improving things, and following the forums helps them do their job better. So, please keep the feedback coming. It does not get un-noticed.
Feedback?
Lasers are useless versus ARs
Either buff the laser range or cut the AR range.
Dying from an overheated laser? ok so wheres the folks dying from an overheated AR barrel??
(yes the AR in real life overheats and gets red hot from shooting a lot of rounds)
So wheres the AR overheat??
HMG?? worthless and after a days use heres a second opinion: total and absolute garbage.
Assault Dropships are broken.
Bad handling i.e. unable to shoot an unmoving supply depo with the front gun on the assault dropship.
The things handle like drunk hippos on ice.
Fixes: better stability for dropship
improve camera
improve front gun tracking
increase the amount of time that the assault dropship can hover before needing a power boost from the engines.(increase from one second to four seconds).
I hope things are fixed in a few days.
Thanks.
Decides to play Skyrim since really upset!!! about Uprising Dust 514 build. |
Harkon Vysarii
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
222
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Posted - 2013.05.07 10:50:00 -
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Since a Dev is watching this thread the only Issue I have come across that someone has actively told me a fix in necessary for its the vehicle skills not working for them. This guy who told me is a great tanker but cant fit things as of now because the skills dont work for him.
Other than that its great to see devs commenting on threads that arent just pointless complaints. |
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Jathniel
G I A N T
EoN.
237
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Posted - 2013.05.07 11:00:00 -
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Yeah, we need a another reset. Like yesterday.
OMG we so need a reset.
If for nothing else but the broken skills. |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
Interstellar Murder of Crows
159
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Posted - 2013.05.07 11:41:00 -
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Bubba Brown wrote:CCP Praetorian wrote:We are monitoring these discussions actively, and we are extremely grateful for all of the feedback. Our teams are actively working on stabilizing, fixing and improving things, and following the forums helps them do their job better. So, please keep the feedback coming. It does not get un-noticed. chances are you're listing to the IRC selectively. if that's what you guys actually do. that's ok i guess just please please always rememberthe vocal irc members are mostly members of high tier corporations. they are not your entire consumer base. if you please only them, things will go very much down hill
This is "ok" how? How would you feel if any other company you received goods/services from only listened to a small fraction of their consumers? There are many ways of polling info out of us. All opinions deserve to be heard and acknowledged, though acknowledged doesn't necessarily mean implemented. Anything less would potentially lead to a creep of social elitism into the Dev process and we all know what happens then.
Please CCP, be more open and engaged with the playerbase and I am not talking about just the good ol' boys/girls of the IRC channel. |
BlG MAMA
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
65
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Posted - 2013.05.07 11:44:00 -
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its the chinese paid "forum fanboys" or you can call them TDCS -"The Damage Control Squad" that dont like constructive criticism
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Hawk Steel1
The Walking Targets
4
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Posted - 2013.05.07 11:54:00 -
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All i want for my birthday is my HMG back to normal. Please. |
Jammer JAMS
Department of Defence Planetary Response Force
Eternal Syndicate
2
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Posted - 2013.05.07 12:05:00 -
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#1Posted: 2013.05.07 12:01 | Report | Edited by: Jammer JAMS
To be Honest about a lot of things I have played eve since 2007 This patch was quite a let down
There is a lot of shiny new things in this patch here is a list of things done right and wrong please add to it people so CPP get the message
Things done right.
6 person squad
Voice on all channels
Shiny new colors
Working on Re balance
Things to fix
New spawn Menu should have used same keys X to select default and x to start like always
Re Balance is messed up you have Nerfed all the weapons way to much there should have been some done to Laser, Sniper,
Maybe a little less damage on a heavy and Forge Gun
The suit fittings are all messed up now as far as PG/ CPU
You have taken away what we had before and not replaced it with skills
Changing all the skills was a bad Idea now most people have chosen skills that do not relate or work
The HUD does not work well can't see who needs a medic
Medics needles don't work anymore Nano-hive is useless now Way to little ammo
Logistics can't re-spec to a use full medic
A lot of the default suit fitting are fit wrong and don't give you what is needed to be a default player in that role
Players are getting stuck, Map is freezing.
When you die get rid of the screen that shows you who killed you you want to see what is going on.
You have messed with the core of what DUST was. All you had to do was some balancing and new shinny stuff.
There is probably a lot that I have not seen yet so please add to it people. In a nice way to get it fixed a list of what you like and what needs to be fixed
Jammer JAMS |
Charlotte O'Dell
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
Noir. Mercenary Group
296
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Posted - 2013.05.07 12:12:00 -
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CCP Praetorian wrote:We are monitoring these discussions actively, and we are extremely grateful for all of the feedback. Our teams are actively working on stabilizing, fixing and improving things, and following the forums helps them do their job better. So, please keep the feedback coming. It does not get un-noticed.
while we're at it, can we have more than a 5 degree barrel depression on HAVs bc this is just stupid... |
Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S.
RISE of LEGION
482
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Posted - 2013.05.07 14:32:00 -
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Bump of justice.
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GOTDUST
F U C C P
8
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Posted - 2013.05.07 14:54:00 -
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HERE'S THE SOLUTION!!!!!
Allow players to respend their SP as much as they like. Moving it from one skill to another if it don't work for them.
The little SP we do have will make no differnce either way.
The fact that this update was released a few days before launch is INSANE! |
Thor Odinson42
Planetary Response Organization
157
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Posted - 2013.05.07 15:11:00 -
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CCP Praetorian wrote:We are monitoring these discussions actively, and we are extremely grateful for all of the feedback. Our teams are actively working on stabilizing, fixing and improving things, and following the forums helps them do their job better. So, please keep the feedback coming. It does not get un-noticed.
My tone is instantly changed.
I will back off now.
Thanks |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
2823
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Posted - 2013.05.07 15:13:00 -
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CCP Praetorian wrote:So, please keep the feedback coming. It does not get un-noticed.
::cough cough:: dropship WP ::cough cough:: |
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